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Noted at Hillfaith: Atheists’ books show that God must exist

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Put another way, books don’t just happen, they require authors, coherence and communication. If the author is absent, the book doesn’t come into existence. Yes, this is at one level a variation on the Paley Watchmaker argument that design requires a designer.

But I would contend the argument by analogy — just as a book requires an author, so the universe requires a designer — is an expression, not merely of common sense, but of a recognition of a fundamental characteristic of reality

THINK ABOUT THIS: Why Atheists’ Books Are Evidence God Must Exist” at Hillfaith

There’s been quite the shelf of such books in recent years, as the Congress blog notes, but it also notes that Steve Meyer’s The Return of the God Hypothesis seems to be giving the Darwinian materialist atheists some serious competition:

For his part, Meyer, who is the director of the Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture and who earned his PhD in the philosophy of science from Cambridge University, argues three main points in making the case for Intelligent Design (ID) of the universe:

“(1) Evidence from cosmology suggesting that the material universe had a beginning; (2) evidence from physics showing that from the beginning the universe has been ‘finely tuned’ to allow for the possibility of life, and (3) evidence from biology establishing that since the beginning large amounts of new functional genetic information have arisen in our biosphere to make new forms of life possible,” all of which, he contends, implies “the activity of a designing intelligence.”

THINK ABOUT THIS: Why Atheists’ Books Are Evidence God Must Exist” at Hillfaith

Yer News hack can testify to the impact of Meyer’s book. Last Christmas, two quite unrelated people — of whom I had no reason to expect any special interest in the topic — asked me what I thought of Meyer’s book.

[Me: You’ve heard of Meyer’s book? Wow. Guess I better finally get round to reading it… ]

Well, it was bound to happen that someone would answer all those blowhards.

8 Replies to “Noted at Hillfaith: Atheists’ books show that God must exist

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    Seversky says:

    But I would contend the argument by analogy — just as a book requires an author, so the universe requires a designer — is an expression, not merely of common sense, but of a recognition of a fundamental characteristic of reality

    And I would contend the strength of an argument by analogy depends on weighing the similarities and differences between the two cases being compared. Yes, books are written – designed if you prefer – by human beings but, as far as we know, universes are not. We should also bear in mind that in many respects books are somewhat different from universes. We can’t exclude the possibility that our Universe was designed by the Christian God but I think the claim that God must exist is not warranted by the existence of atheist books any more than it would be by the discovery of a clockwork watch by somebody walking across a heath in Georgian England.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Sev, human beings are contingent being designers, that does not block drawing LOGICAL inferences regarding generic properties of designs including signatures of design, especially with help from logic of being and possible worlds frameworks. KF

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    asauber says:

    “Yes, books are written – designed if you prefer – by human beings but, as far as we know, universes are not.”

    So Sev is asserting that all designers get accidentally created.

    Sure, Sev.

    Andrew

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    zweston says:

    The black knight of the holy grail strikes again…

    Sev, what is the most likely and probable conclusion to draw based on all of our experience and observation?

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    jerry says:

    Sev, what is the most likely and probable conclusion

    This assumes that comments made here result from true belief.

    Seversky is one of the biggest and cleverest proponents of ID here. Think what it must take to post one irrelevant comment after the other and then never defend them.

    It takes belief and an agile mind to make all this nonsense up.

    Isn’t it time for another inane poster to make an irrelevant sarcastic remark?

    Sometimes I wonder where Barry finds these people.

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    Silver Asiatic says:

    Jerry

    Seversky is one of the biggest and cleverest proponents of ID here.

    He’s a good contributor to the discussions and is generally respectful and guarded in his comments. And he seems to have an endless supply of oppositional remarks.

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    jerry says:

    And he seems to have an endless supply of oppositional remarks

    And all bogus.

    By design?

    How best to support something!

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    Silver Asiatic says:

    I wouldn’t say “all’ bogus. He has offered good input on various topics.
    LIke this comment for example:
    https://uncommondescent.com/informatics/lfp-54-j-c-wright-on-the-haunting-morlockery-of-many-today-in-the-neo-gnostic-nihilistic-technoplutocracy/#comment-749865

    But yes, a lot of it is provocative. He keeps the conversations going.

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