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Professor Feser’s Puzzling Assault on ID

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In an earlier column (27 March 2010), I offered constructive criticism of the position of Francis Beckwith, who had implied an incompatibility between the ID and Thomist approaches to design, and had condemned ID for advancing or at least implying a bad form of Christian theology:

https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/what-francis-beckwith-gets-wrong-about-intelligent-design/

Prof. Beckwith responded once to my article, but only touched on a couple of points, and in the course of his discussion misrepresented both my motivation and some of my arguments.  When I clarified my position (in Comment #8 below the article), Beckwith did not respond to the clarification.  Thus, he left the impression that he had demolished my argument, when in fact he had rebutted only a misrepresentation of just part of my argument.

I here undertake a constructively critical response to some arguments of Professor Edward Feser, who like Prof. Beckwith has contrasted ID unfavorably with Thomist design arguments and has accused ID of faulty theology.  I am hoping that Professor Feser will reply, here or on his own site, and will engage more fully with my comments than did Prof. Beckwith.

On his own blogspot, Professor Feser has lately published a lengthy reply to vjtorley, alleging that vjtorley has misunderstood both Feser’s own argument, and the position of Thomas Aquinas:

http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2010/04/id-theory-aquinas-and-origin-of-life.html

I will not enter into the particulars of the Feser-Torley debate, as I am sure Mr. Torley will wish to defend himself.  Rather, I would like to focus on a couple of statements made in the cited article by Mr. Feser, statements which seem to me to point to characteristic blind spots in the Feser-Beckwith critique of ID.

First, when describing the Aristotelian-Thomistic critique of atheistic, materialistic metaphysics, Feser writes:

“What all A-T theorists agree on … is that life could not possibly have arisen in a purely mechanistic universe of the sort presupposed by naturalism, so that no naturalistic explanation of life is possible even in principle.”

In other words, naturalism fails in its own terms.  This is an argument straight out of the ID playbook.  If ID does not differ from Thomism over the assertion that naturalism fails in its own terms, what is Feser’s objection to ID’s attempt to confront naturalism on its own terms? 

Second, Feser writes:

“… when God creates a living thing, He does not do so in the manner in which an artificer constructs an artifact. And any method for studying living things which (like ID) proceeds on the assumption that He does is simply making a fundamental metaphysical and conceptual error that cannot fail to lead to serious misunderstandings of God’s relationship to the world, and thus to serious misunderstandings of how to reason from features of the world to the existence and nature of God.”

I have more than a passing acquaintance with ID literature.  I have read most of the major theoretical works of the ID proponents, and a good number of their rejoinders to their critics.  I have not seen any ID proponent say that God creates living things “in the manner in which an artificer constructs an artifact”.  In fact, I have not seen any ID proponent describe how God creates living things at all.  On the contrary, ID has been repeatedly criticized by the Darwinians precisely for not describing, in terms of past events and their efficient causes, how intelligence was involved in the origin and/or evolution of species.  I don’t see how ID can be criticized for describing God’s creative activity in the “wrong” way, when it has never described that activity at all.

ID makes use of the artificer analogy not to establish a historical claim about some past act of physical construction (e.g., “When God created the flagellum, he took an existing bacterium and sewed the base of a wavy new organelle into the cell wall”), but to establish the fact that, like a machine, a living system or organism involves the adjustment of means to ends, and, like a very complex machine with integrated systems interrelated in mutual feedback loops, it does not come into existence without a design, and therefore without a designing intelligence.  In other words, ID focuses only on establishing the existence of design; how the design is realized by God is not ID’s concern.

Being silent on the question of “how”, ID cannot be guilty of contradicting the Thomistic understanding of “how”.  ID has said nothing, for example, against the “four cause” analysis of Thomism.  Nor, contrary to what Feser seems to imply elsewhere in his article, does it insist that such teleology as exists in living things has been imposed purely externally, and has no immanent aspect.  ID simply does not deal with such questions.  Feser, like Beckwith, seems to believe that ID is posing as a rival theology or rival metaphysics to Thomism, but ID does not claim to offer a theology or a metaphysics at all.

Feser and Beckwith are misled by ID’s use of the analogy of the designer or craftsman.  And what is odd about this is that both Aristotle and Aquinas make extensive use of this analogy, and neither Beckwith nor Feser complains about it.  Why don’t they?  Surely because they understand that in the case of Aristotle and Aquinas, the analogy was meant to be pressed only so far, and not intended as a photographic representation of how God (or in Aristotle’s case, nature) operates.  The question is:  Why they don’t extend to ID theorists the same intellectual courtesy, i.e., the assumption that ID theorists are bright enough to recognize the limited character of all analogies, and sensible enough not to take them as literal descriptions of divine action?  

Many ID people are friendly to Thomism for its unwavering affirmation of a close connection between rationality, nature and God.  ID people wish to remain on good terms with Thomists, and to ally with Thomists against atheistic Darwinists, and against those among the theistic evolutionists who divorce God from reason and nature and whose understanding of origins is distinguishable from that of atheistic Darwinism only by a private “leap of faith”.  We do not understand why Beckwith and Feser are launching this attack against us.  Are there not enough “erroneous” non-Thomist theologies of nature out there (e.g., affirmations of wholly naturalistic evolution supplemented by Barthian and other fideisms), to keep Thomist metaphysicians busy, that they have the time and energy to attack ID for theological positions that it does not in fact hold?

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Upright Biped, I'm glad you're prepared for the ensuing theological battle, which is not so different from the scientific battle already underway. (You get Ken Miller either way!) However, my sense is that you don't appreciate the full implications of the following claim, which you toss off so casually:
Life DOES operate from encoded information, and cells DO have molecular machinery to accomplish life’s processes. Acknowledging that fact does not tell us anything particularly insightful about the “nature of the intelligence” other than the general idea of “wow would you look at that”.
Thomists and other even more pious folk would say that references to 'coded information' and 'molecular machines' are mere analogies, if not metaphors -- no bases for theorising in a way that ends up making God look like The Big Engineer in the Sky. My own view is that ID does indeed gravitate in that direction. Here's a reality check: How would you characterise the image of the bacterial flagellum on this blog's masthead? ID people don't simply believe that's a cute suggestive image but an ideal version of the real thing. That raises the Thomistic hackles.Steve Fuller
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Upright BiPed, thanks for your really excellent comments (#6).Granville Sewell
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Steve, At one minute you say that we must explore the nature of the designer if ID is ever to be a complete theory, and then the next you say that by doing so we force ID into a theological disagreement. ID is based upon empirical evidence that anyone can share regardless of their theological position, whether they have a particular theological position or not? Life DOES operate from encoded information, and cells DO have molecular machinery to accomplish life's processes. Acknowledging that fact does not tell us anything particularly insightful about the "nature of the intelligence" other than the general idea of "wow would you look at that". What it does tell us that if we want oxygen to attach to hemoglobin and be carried to the bodily tissues for replenishment and respiration, then there will need to be some actual, physical mechanisms for causing those things to happen within a coordinated system. It tells us that the systems we see are necessary, and the evidence we find is real. It also tells us that an explanation for a cause to bring about such information processing systems does not exist in the laws of physics that cause rust, weather, and geosynchronous orbits. If such a patently obvious acknowledgment causes another round of history for some brand of Christian to (oh joy) point fingers at other Christians and tell em what they are doing wrong - then so be it. I hope that those that who hold the position are ready for the long haul. There is no non-intelligent cause for the origin of biological systems coming around the bend on which to justify their doubt.Upright BiPed
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That’s just another restatement of the logical fallacy “argument from personal incredulity” (or even “argument from ignorance”). Just because nobody has figured out yet how life happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen – or that it was therefore supernatural
If you look at any physics textbook you will find claims about the inability of natural forces to repair wrecked automobiles, to recreate demolished buildings, etc, that are similar to that made by Faser. Are these also statements of personal incredulity? No, they are statements of the second law of thermodynamics. Granville Sewell
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At the risk of opening up this theological rift even more, I must say that I actually hold the view of ID that these Thomists are attacking – and I don’t think I’m alone either, though perhaps I’m more explicit than most. Thus, I can see exactly where Feser and Beckwith are coming from, though calling the ID position ‘bad theology’ is just self-serving rhetoric on their part. But certainly there is a real theological disagreement here. This disagreement was bound to happen – and is likely to become more open in the future – as ID people are more explicit about what they take to be the nature of the ‘intelligence’ behind ‘intelligent design’. When one says things that ‘life is coded information’ or ‘cells are nano-machines’, does one mean such things literally or merely figuratively. ID takes these descriptions literally, and that’s the basic problem – at least for the Thomists. The difference between the Thomist and ID position boils down to questions of ‘divine predication’. In short, ID takes talk of God as ‘artificer’ literally, the Thomists analogically. This was also the difference between those behind the West’s 17th Scientific Revolution and their Catholic opponents. ID gets called ‘bad theology’ in this context because it claims to understand how God works by imagining that it’s an infinitely extended version of how humans work, capitalising on a very literal reading of the idea that we are created ‘in the image and likeness’ of God. Frankly, I think ID should simply openly embrace the position that the Thomists are trying to stigmatise as ‘bad theology’ and place the discussion of the ‘I’ behind ‘ID’ on the table, once and for all. In this respect, I find Cudworth’s answer a bit too coy to satisfy anyone who wishes to take the discussion forward.Steve Fuller
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It's not an argument from personality incredulity. If you read the actual article, Feser talks about what it would mean for life to be 'made' in a laboratory, or for life to have originated by 'natural processes' at some point in the past. His point is that thomists have a radically different view of nature than mechanists, and that same hypothetical event would be understood in drastically different ways by thomists and mechanists. If you read Feser's original post, some sense of the nuance he's speaking with comes through. It's closer but not identical to saying "on an eliminative materialist view of the world, the mental does not exist". It's not an 'argument from incredulity', it's what follows given the metaphysical commitments.nullasalus
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PaulBurnett,
That’s just another restatement of the logical fallacy “argument from personal incredulity” (or even “argument from ignorance”).
Do you think this a bad thing? Some things are considered impossible, even though there is not a known explanation in sight. It is like saying that I make an argument from personal incredulity when I say that I will not fly, unaided, like an eagle tonight. Is that an argument from personal incredulity, and therefore absurd? There is nothing logically impossible with me flying like an eagle, it is not like saying a square circle, but yet we know what is involved in such a claim, and that it is so improbable as to be considered impossible. The argument from incredulity is a perfectly valid argument in certain instances when the improbability is so great and the probability so small, that we then draw the proper, and perfectly valid, conclusions.Clive Hayden
April 17, 2010
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Cudworth quotes Feser as writing: "What all A-T theorists agree on … is that life could not possibly have arisen in a purely mechanistic universe of the sort presupposed by naturalism, so that no naturalistic explanation of life is possible even in principle." That's just another restatement of the logical fallacy "argument from personal incredulity" (or even "argument from ignorance"). Just because nobody has figured out yet how life happened doesn't mean it didn't happen - or that it was therefore supernatural. Both conclusions are equally absurd as well as illogical. One of the problems anti-ID folks find with ID is that while ID (publicly) posits an anonymous Intelligent Designer, ID folks are silent about the unmentioned and invisible - but necessary! - Intelligent Creator. And some religious scholars have pointed out the heresy implicit in such a duality.PaulBurnett
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