BA77’s off topic thread, Volume 1 — my pastor’s wife in Cosmopolitan

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August 20, 2013

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Since BA77 likes posting so many off topic comments on so many threads, and because others probably want to talk about off topics, I’m creating the first official off topic thread at UD just for off topic comments. YAY!

Here is my off topic, my pastor tried to get the congregation to stick around for 20 minutes longer than usual to take care of business matters requiring a vote. To give us incentive to remain, he said he’d pass around a copy of Cosmopolitan Magazine with a photo of his wife in it :shock:! Sure enough, she was in cosmopolitan magazine in the May 1965 issue. She was in a photo that featured former Congressman James Weaver, her dad….

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jdweaver.htm

Also, I think the chances of Darwinian evolution and mindless OOL being true are more remote than the chances of the Detroit Lions and Cleveland Browns playing each other in the next Superbowl.

Also, I really hate Windows 8.

So, speak your mind but exercise some discretion, keep it family friendly, and try not to start flame wars or launch into attacks against other UD participants. Other than that, talk about what you want. Enjoy!

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Academic freedom? Oh, I meant freedom for me to express my opinion! Not you yours! Indiana Professors Question Ball State University's Disregard For Rules on Academic Freedom - Joshua Youngkin August 25, 2013 Excerpt: The slickest way for administrators to dodge the requirements of academic freedom is to dodge the faculty handbook, which is what BSU has done, as Kelly and Murphy point out. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/08/indiana_profess075781.htmlbornagain77_{August 25, 2013
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Beyond Black and Yellow: The Stunning Colors of America’s Native Bees - beautiful pictures http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/08/beautiful-bees/?pid=7213&viewall=truebornagain77_{August 25, 2013
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Shockfossil - Electricitree 1 - photo http://shockfossils.deviantart.com/art/Electricitree-1-134451109 Shockfossil - Swallowtail Butterfly - photo http://shockfossils.deviantart.com/art/Swallowtail-134453289 Shockfossil - Pulmonary - photo http://shockfossils.deviantart.com/art/Pulmonary-295250795 How Shockfossils are made - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8biE3uP_nOIbornagain77_{August 25, 2013
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Does Information Create The Cosmos? - Closer To Truth - Juan Maldacena - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfa-vveeXpM Juan Maldacena discusses quantum information, digital physics and the holographic principle.bornagain77_{August 25, 2013
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Axel @ 92:
Chasing maids’, he had said, in reference to is misspent youth. After a few centuries, it sounds beautifully poetic, doesn’t?
That it does.Barb_{August 24, 2013
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Axel, condolences. Gkairosfocus_{August 24, 2013
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By popular demand, I'm going to start another off topic thread today or tomorrow.scordova_{August 24, 2013
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podcast: Apologist Interview: John Frame http://www.apologetics315.com/2010/10/apologist-interview-john-frame.html transcript: http://www.apologetics315.com/2013/08/john-frame-interview-transcript.html Dr. Frame is a philosopher and a Calvinist theologian, especially noted for his work in epistemology and presuppositional apologetics - also systematic theology and ethics. He is one of the foremost interpreters and critics of the thought of Cornelius Van Til and his publications include Van Til the Theologian,bornagain77_{August 24, 2013
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podcast - "Serendipity and Exaptation: Circular Arguments for Darwinian Evolution" http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.com/entry/2013-08-23T17_39_21-07_00 Casey Luskin and guest Dr. Cornelius Hunter talk about the issue of serendipity and what it means for the modern theory of evolution. Dr. Hunter discusses how Darwinian evolutionists have relied heavily on serendipity and exaptation to explain complex features in biology and prop up their theory.bornagain77_{August 23, 2013
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Michael Behe interviewed by Apologetics315 - podcast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tYASh0R2bI from 2011, but I never recall seeing the interview being put on UDbornagain77_{August 23, 2013
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Understanding Intelligent Design - Sean McDowell - (July 21, 2013) - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do14SJ9RY4Abornagain77_{August 22, 2013
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Per Dr. Hunter Non-random enviromentally induced changes observed in real time: Tiny Fish Make 'Eyes' at Their Killer - Aug. 19, 2013 Excerpt: Researchers from Australia's ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies (CoECRS) have made a world-first discovery that, when constantly threatened with being eaten, small damsel fish not only grow a larger false 'eye spot' near their tail -- but also reduce the size of their real eyes. The result is a fish that looks like it is heading in the opposite direction -- potentially confusing predatory fish with plans to gobble them up,,, "We found that when young damsel fish were placed in a specially built tank where they could see and smell predatory fish without being attacked, they automatically began to grow a bigger eye spot, and their real eye became relatively smaller, compared with damsels exposed only to herbivorous fish, or isolated ones.,, When the researchers investigated what happens in nature on a coral reef with lots of predators, they found that juvenile damsel fish with enlarged eye spots had an amazing five times the survival rate of fish with a normal-sized spot.,,, The team also noted that when placed in proximity to a predator the young damsel fish also adopted other protective behaviours and features, including reducing activity levels, taking refuge more often and developing a chunkier body shape less easy for a predator to swallow. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130819102728.htm 10 Years of Weather History in 3 Minutes - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieILUnkdD90bornagain77_{August 22, 2013
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They're Still Just Bacteria, Mr. Zimmer! - August 21, 2013 Excerpt: Zimmer complains: "[Critics]...aren't satisfied with this experiment because it isn't a large-scale episodes of evolution-the split between species, for example, or the origin of an eye or a hand. (I'm guessing here, but it's a guess educated on many previous such comments.) Large-scale episodes take time, typically stretching across thousands or millions of years. The scientists who study bacteria over the course of a few weeks don't expect to witness such transformations." Again, Zimmer is implying the very thing not present in the study: that this observation of "evolution in action" can explain bacteria to man. He finds the "but its still bacteria" complaint to be just "wrong-headed" and concludes with: "Such a remark isn't just wrong-headed about evolution, though. It reveals a misunderstanding of bacteria. Bacteria originated about 3.5 billion years ago and have been diversifying into many different forms ever since. Some bacteria float in the ocean, turning sunlight into carbon. Others breathe iron. Others make squid glow. Watching bacteria evolve in a Petri dish helps us to understand not just evolution in general, but bacteria in all their particulars." In other words, 3.5 billion years later, we have many divergent types of bacteria, but they are all "still just bacteria". What's the problem? http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/08/theyre_still_ju075731.html
Mr. Zimmer might be very surprised at just how much purchase the "still just bacteria" complaint has against his preferred Darwinian view of reality:
AMBER: THE LOOKING GLASS INTO THE PAST: Excerpt: These (fossilized bacteria) cells are actually very similar to present day cyanobacteria. This is not only true for an isolated case but many living genera of cyanobacteria can be linked to fossil cyanobacteria. The detail noted in the fossils of this group gives indication of extreme conservation of morphology, more extreme than in other organisms. http://bcb705.blogspot.com/2007/03/amber-looking-glass-into-past_23.html Static evolution: is pond scum the same now as billions of years ago? Excerpt: But what intrigues (paleo-biologist) J. William Schopf most is lack of change. Schopf was struck 30 years ago by the apparent similarities between some 1-billion-year-old fossils of blue-green bacteria and their modern microbial counterparts. "They surprisingly looked exactly like modern species," Schopf recalls. Now, after comparing data from throughout the world, Schopf and others have concluded that modern pond scum differs little from the ancient blue-greens. "This similarity in morphology is widespread among fossils of [varying] times," says Schopf. As evidence, he cites the 3,000 such fossils found; http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Static+evolution%3A+is+pond+scum+the+same+now+as+billions+of+years+ago%3F-a014909330 The Paradox of the "Ancient" (250 Million Year Old) Bacterium Which Contains "Modern" Protein-Coding Genes: “Almost without exception, bacteria isolated from ancient material have proven to closely resemble modern bacteria at both morphological and molecular levels.” Heather Maughan*, C. William Birky Jr., Wayne L. Nicholson, William D. Rosenzweig§ and Russell H. Vreeland ; http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/19/9/1637
Despite Mr. Zimmer's protestations to the contrary, we have very good reason to believe that Darwinism cannot do what is claimed of it, even with billions of years at its disposal:
A review of The Edge of Evolution: The Search for the Limits of Darwinism Excerpt: The numbers of Plasmodium and HIV in the last 50 years greatly exceeds the total number of mammals since their supposed evolutionary origin (several hundred million years ago), yet little has been achieved by evolution. This suggests that mammals could have “invented” little in their time frame. Behe: ‘Our experience with HIV gives good reason to think that Darwinism doesn’t do much—even with billions of years and all the cells in that world at its disposal’ (p. 155). http://creation.com/review-michael-behe-edge-of-evolution More Darwinian Degradation - M. Behe - January 2012 Excerpt: Recently a paper appeared by Ratcliff et al. (2012) entitled “Experimental evolution of mulitcellularity” and received a fair amount of press attention, including a story in the New York Times.,,, It seems to me that Richard Lenski, who knows how to get the most publicity out of exceedingly modest laboratory results, has taught his student well. In fact, the results can be regarded as the loss of two pre-existing abilities: 1) the loss of the ability to separate from the mother cell during cell division; and 2) the loss of control of apoptosis. http://behe.uncommondescent.com/2012/01/more-darwinian-degradation/
Related comment on the fossil record:
"We go from single cell protozoa. which would be ameoba and things like that. Then you get into some that are a little bit bigger, still single cell, and then you get aggregates, they're still individual cells that aggregate together. They don't seem to have much in the way of cooperation,,, but when you really talk about a functioning organism, that has more than just one type of cell, you are talking about a sponge and you can have hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of cells. So we don't really have organisms that function with say two different types of cells, but there is only five total. We don't have anything like that." - Dr. Raymond G. Bohlin - quote taken from 31:00 minute mark of this following video Natural Limits to Biological Change 2/2 - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo3OKSGeFRQ
Mr. Zimmer on the off chance that you ever read this, as in the movie 'The Graduate',,,
The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk
,,,I give you "One Word: Information" Verse and Music:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Brooke Fraser- “C S Lewis Song” http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=DL6LPLNX If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world. C.S. Lewis (Mere Christianity, Bk. III, chap. 10, “Hope”)
bornagain77_{August 22, 2013
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How about the orthographically-challenged anagram of 'dame', 'maid', which I heard Kiwi, Ian McCormack, say in a remarkable YouTube video of an NDE exerience he had, Barb? Very poetic. I had to have a double-take, to check if my ears had deceived me. 'Chasing maids', he had said, in reference to is misspent youth. After a few centuries, it sounds beautifully poetic, doesn't? In the other direction, I remember the protagonist in a P G Wodehouse story (probably, Wodehouse) misreading 'her hoary-headed swain' - hoary-headed apparently being a poetic rendering of 'fair-haired' - as the very unpoetic, 'her hairy-headed swine'.Axel_{August 22, 2013
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at89 Thanks Johnnyfarmer!bornagain77_{August 22, 2013
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NIST ytterbium atomic clocks set record for stability - August 22, 2013 Excerpt: A pair of experimental atomic clocks based on ytterbium atoms at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has set a new record for stability. The clocks act like 21st-century pendulums or metronomes that could swing back and forth with perfect timing for a period comparable to the age of the universe. NIST physicists report in the Aug. 22 issue of Science Express that the ytterbium clocks' tick is more stable than any other atomic clock. Stability can be thought of as how precisely the duration of each tick matches every other tick. The ytterbium clock ticks are stable to within less than two parts in 1 quintillion (1 followed by 18 zeros), roughly 10 times better than the previous best published results for other atomic clocks. This dramatic breakthrough has the potential for significant impacts not only on timekeeping, but also on a broad range of sensors measuring quantities that have tiny effects on the ticking rate of atomic clocks, including gravity, magnetic fields, and temperature http://phys.org/news/2013-08-nist-ytterbium-atomic-clocks-stability.htmlbornagain77_{August 22, 2013
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tragic mishap @ 81 In defense of BA77's spam.... I come to this site to learn and BA77 finds information that I would not have time to find and probably could not find it even if I did have time. So I agree that we should have an off topic thread ... Actually I think we should have two off topic threads. One would be for general off topic discussions and another dedicated to BA77's off topic posting. He does access a huge amount of information. And otherwise some of his posting is on topic and much appreciated.Johnnyfarmer_{August 22, 2013
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julianbre thanks! ,, I showed the 'Mentally Ill' article that you just referenced to a psychologist and she got a kick out of it. correction on the last post I posted. I believe the main reason that they gave in the video why teleportation would take so long is the constraint on bandwidth not the one by one entanglement that I had mistakenly said.bornagain77_{August 21, 2013
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Thanks BA77 for your off topic posts! You have given me lots of new reading material and love the videos as well. Since this is an official off topic post: Are atheists mentally ill? I believe this is the quote of the year. "Therefore, being an atheist – lacking the vital faculty of faith – should be seen as an affliction, and a tragic deficiency: something akin to blindness. Which makes Richard Dawkins the intellectual equivalent of an amputee, furiously waving his stumps in the air, boasting that he has no hands." http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100231060/are-atheists-mentally-ill/julianbre_{August 21, 2013
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Tragic states:
I would just like to voice my support for BA posting everything here instead of other threads. I don’t know about anyone else, but I never read anything BA posts. Ever. Having him post here would be better on my eyes and who knows, I might actually read something he posts once in awhile if it wasn’t constantly inserting itself into the middle of a completely unrelated conversation.
Oh well I am sorry. :( I'll try to be more circumspect in the future. But, as they say, it's hard to teach an old dog,,, but I'll try,,
bow wow wow yippy yo yippy yay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KML0NxxGe-k
Tragic also, I guess in mocking my many posts on Quantum Mechanics, states:
"Oh and Quantum mechanics is the answer."
OK (if anyone else besides tragic cares), so far so good for a lot of very interesting questions that go very deep into reality, but let's ask one more important question past tragic's answer, let's also ask, 'where does quantum mechanics come from in the first place?' And the answer to that question is pretty neat:
In the following video, from the 22:27 to the 29:50 minute mark, is a pretty neat little presentation of the Shrodinger Equation in answer to the question, 'Why does mathematics describe the universe?' The Professors: An after-hours conversation on Georgia Tech's hardest questions - veritas video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vBQ9uFOFLWM&t=1349
Of course, in my opinion, the professor could have gone a bit further in the video and pointed out Godel's incompleteness. But anyways, despite my druthers, he is completely right in his assessment,,,,
"Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." Galileo Mathematics and Physics – A Happy Coincidence? – William Lane Craig – video http://www.metacafe.com/w/9826382
Myself, if one just stopped at this point of asking questions, 'Quantum mechanics is the answer', and looked no further than that answer, then one would miss the far more important, deeper, question and answer that followed after that deep answer:
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Centrality of Each Individual Observer In The Universe and Christ’s Very Credible Reconciliation Of General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics https://docs.google.com/document/d/17SDgYPHPcrl1XX39EXhaQzk7M0zmANKdYIetpZ-WB5Y/edit?hl=en_US
Also of related interest to 'quantum mechanics is the answer', the following video pretty much blows a materialistic conception of the human body completely out of the water since it shows that humans can be, in principle, reduced to quantum information and teleported to another location in the universe:
New Breakthrough in (Quantum) Teleportation - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xqZI31udJg Quote from video: "There are 10^28 atoms in the human body.,, The amount of data contained in the whole human,, is 3.02 x 10^32 gigabytes of information. Using a high bandwidth transfer that data would take about 4.5 x 10^18 years to teleport 1 time. That is 350,000 times the age of the universe." for comparison sake: "The theoretical (information) density of DNA is you could store the total world information, which is 1.8 zetabytes, at least in 2011, in about 4 grams of DNA." (a zettabyte is one billion trillion or 10^21 bytes of digital data) Sriram Kosuri PhD. - Wyss Institute
What is interesting in the preceding video is that they talk of having to entangle each and every one of the material particles of the human body on a one by one basis in order to teleport the human body successfully(and that is why the teleportation of a human body would take so long). But what they have failed to point out in the video is that there is already massive quantum entanglement within the human body in every protein and DNA molecule:
Coherent Intrachain energy migration at room temperature - Elisabetta Collini and Gregory Scholes - University of Toronto - Science, 323, (2009), pp. 369-73 Excerpt: The authors conducted an experiment to observe quantum coherence dynamics in relation to energy transfer. The experiment, conducted at room temperature, examined chain conformations, such as those found in the proteins of living cells. Neighbouring molecules along the backbone of a protein chain were seen to have coherent energy transfer. Where this happens quantum decoherence (the underlying tendency to loss of coherence due to interaction with the environment) is able to be resisted, and the evolution of the system remains entangled as a single quantum state. http://www.scimednet.org/quantum-coherence-living-cells-and-protein/ Quantum entanglement between the electron clouds of nucleic acids in DNA - Elisabeth Rieper, Janet Anders and Vlatko Vedral - February 2011 http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1006/1006.4053v2.pdf
Thus, if one holds a Theistic view of reality as I do then, considering that massive quantum entanglement already exists in the entire human body, than one could reasonably argue that the human body is already teleportation ready! :)
1 Corinthians 15:52-53 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
Music:
Where I Belong Share - Building 429 http://myktis.com/songs/where-i-belong/
bornagain77_{August 21, 2013
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Barb, broads and dames, yep. I've heard him use both.CentralScrutinizer_{August 21, 2013
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CentralScrutinizer:
Barb @ 71 Yeah, but “broads” sounds so much cooler when imagined with a Frank Sinatra Brooklyn accent.
Anything sounds cooler with a Brooklyn accent. Although I think Frank would've called them 'dames', wouldn't he?Barb_{August 21, 2013
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#82. 'Oh and Quantum Mechanics is the answer. You bet it is. Unless, you really don't approve of successful science, where it shows up the often tragic mishaps in the thinking of scientism's finest.Axel_{August 21, 2013
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Sometimes I wonder whether everyone else is off-topic and BA is the only one who is on topic. True story. Oh and Quantum mechanics is the answer.tragic mishap_{August 21, 2013
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I would just like to voice my support for BA posting everything here instead of other threads. I don't know about anyone else, but I never read anything BA posts. Ever. Having him post here would be better on my eyes and who knows, I might actually read something he posts once in awhile if it wasn't constantly inserting itself into the middle of a completely unrelated conversation.tragic mishap_{August 21, 2013
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Because of the popularity of this thread, I moved it up in priority to give it a little more air time.scordova_{August 21, 2013
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An interview with Stephen Meyer: An intelligent defense of Intelligent Design: - Jonathan Merritt | Aug 20, 2013 http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews.com/2013/08/20/an-intelligent-defense-of-intelligent-design-an-interview-with-stephen-meyer/bornagain77_{August 21, 2013
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'Broad' and the Aussie, 'sheila', are more evocative, even graphic to my ears.Axel_{August 21, 2013
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Let's make all the stops... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI5Ffds1aEoCentralScrutinizer_{August 21, 2013
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Barb @ 71 Yeah, but "broads" sounds so much cooler when imagined with a Frank Sinatra Brooklyn accent.CentralScrutinizer_{August 21, 2013
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