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Yesterday, “News” brought readers a fascinating story about a report from Science Daily, titled, Reconstructed ancient ocean reveals secrets about the origin of life (25 April 2014), which was also picked up by Linda Geddes, writing for New Scientist. Reading the Science Daily article, I was struck by the extraordinary naivete of mainstream science reporters covering the origin-of-life issue. Consider the following excerpt, taken from the final two paragraphs:

“In the presence of iron and other compounds found in the oceanic sediments, 29 metabolic-like chemical reactions were observed, including those that produce some of the essential chemicals of metabolism, for example precursors of the building blocks of proteins or RNA,” says [Dr. Markus] Ralser, [Group Leader at the Department of Biochemistry at the University of Cambridge and the National Institute for Medical Research]. “These results indicate that the basic architecture of the modern metabolic network could have originated from the chemical and physical constraints that existed on the prebiotic Earth.”

The detection of one of the metabolites, ribose 5-phosphate, in the reaction mixtures is particularly noteworthy. Its availability means that RNA precursors could in theory give rise to RNA molecules that encode information, catalyze chemical reactions and replicate. Whether and how the first enzymes adopted the metal-catalyzed reactions described by the scientists remain to be established.

I wonder how many readers of the article even noticed the two little qualifying words, “in theory.”

The New Scientist report by Linda Geddes also highlighted the detection of ribose 5-phosphate as a metabolic reaction product, suggesting that self-replicating RNA could have formed spontaneously on the primordial Earth:

Detecting the metabolite ribose 5-phosphate is particularly noteworthy, Ralser says. This is because it is a precursor to RNA, which encodes information, catalyses chemical reactions and most importantly of all, can replicate.

Ms. Geddes is to be commended for her balanced reporting: she took care to inform her readers that the experiments performed by Dr. Ralser began with “substances known to be starting points for modern metabolic pathways,” adding that no-one had yet demonstrated that these substances could have formed in the Earth’s oceans, four billion years ago. And as “News” mentioned in her post, Ms. Geddes also pointed out that the reactions observed so far were all degenerative, instead of going from simple molecules to complex ones, they went from complex molecules to simpler ones (e.g. from sugar to pyruvate), prompting origin-of-life scientist Dr. Jack Szostak of Harvard University to remark that on a pessimistic reading of the evidence, “any organics in the ocean would have been totally degraded, rather than forming the basis of modern metabolism.”

While these qualifying remarks are commendable, they hardly even begin to scratch the surface. To see, why, let’s have a look at the chemical structure of ribose 5-phosphate (image courtesy of Wikipedia and Edgar181):

The chemical formula for this compound is C5H11O8P. In other words, one molecule of ribose 5-phosphate contains just 25 atoms. Its molar mass is 230.110 g/mol (or about 230 times that of a hydrogen atom).

Dr. Eugene Koonin: the real problems involved in explaining the origin of life

I’d now like to direct readers’ attention to a review by retired Dutch biologist (and Intelligent Design critic) Dr. Gert Korthof of renowned evolutionary biologist Dr. Eugene Koonin‘s recent book, The Logic of Chance: The Nature and Origin of Biological Evolution, Pearson, FT Press). Actually, Korthof’s review is not a review of Koonin’s entire book, but only of Chapter 12 and Appendix B of the book, which deal with the formidable problems facing any naturalistic origin-of-life scenario (emphases are mine – VJT):

RNA can function both as protein (enzyme) and replicator. However, even under the best-case scenario, the RNA-World hardly has the potential to evolve beyond very simple “organisms” (p. 366). The path from a putative RNA World to a translation system (DNA-protein world) is incredibly steep (p. 376). The hardest problem is that evolution by natural selection can only start after replication with sufficient fidelity is established [2]. Not withstanding all scientific progress, we currently do not have a credible solution to these problems [4].

Why is it so difficult to evolve a DNA-protein world from a RNA-world? Here is Koonin’s specification of the requirements of a coupled replication-translation system (p. 435) (these calculations are the same as in: [3] ):

2 rRNAs with a total of at least: 1,000 nucleotides
10 primitive adaptors of about 30 nucleotides each: 300 nucleotides
at least 1 RNA encoding a replicase: 500 nucleotides

Total (at least 13 RNA molecules): 1,800 nucleotides

The probability of the spontaneous origin of this is: P < 10-1018. The spontaneous origin of 1,800 nucleotides is the Koonin-threshold for the origin of life and evolution. No Origin of Life (OOL) researcher put it more clearly and dramatically than Koonin. Please note 1,800 nucleotides is a minimum. Every OOL researcher that skips over the Koonin threshold makes a serious scientific oversight.

Readers should take note of what Dr. Koonin is saying here. First, the term “RNA” refers to a family of large biological molecules of varying shapes and sizes. When we read scientific articles about an “RNA world,” we need to ask ourselves: what kind of RNA are we speaking of here? How many nucleotides are we talking about? How many science journalists even mention this question, when discussing the plausibility of the RNA world?

Second, let’s consider the 10 primitive adaptors of about 30 nucleotides each, mentioned by Dr. Koonin in the passage quoted above. That’s actually pretty short for an RNA molecule: RNA strands can vary from 20 to 3,354 base pairs in length. Even 20 nucleotides of single-stranded RNA has a molecular weight of 6,569 g/mol, so the molecular weight of a 30-nucleotide primitive adaptor would be 9,853.5 g/mol. That’s nearly 43 times heavier than a molecule of ribose 5-phosphate (pictured above). And if that’s not bad enough, what about the two ribosomal RNAs, with 500 nucleotides each, making them about 700 times heavier than a molecule of ribose 5-phosphate?

Animation of the large subunit of the archaebacterium, Haloarcula marismortui. Proteins are shown in blue and the two RNA strands in orange and yellow. The small patch of green in the center of the subunit is the active site. Image courtesy of Tim Vickers, David Goodsell and Wikipedia.

Third, I’d like to return to Korthof’s remark:

The spontaneous origin of 1,800 nucleotides is the Koonin-threshold for the origin of life and evolution. No Origin of Life (OOL) researcher put it more clearly and dramatically than Koonin. Please note 1,800 nucleotides is a minimum. Every OOL researcher that skips over the Koonin threshold makes a serious scientific oversight.

Let me ask my readers: how many science journalists have you come across who even knew about the Koonin threshold? Be honest, now! None? I thought so.

The probability of the spontaneous origin of these 1,800 nucleotides is less than 10-1018, according to Koonin, whose 2007 article, The cosmological model of eternal inflation and the transition from chance to biological evolution in the history of life (Biology Direct 2007; 2: 15), from which the above calculations were derived, was peer-reviewed by no less than four researchers, including Itai Yanai of Harvard University.

Enter the multiverse

10-1018 is a staggeringly low figure. Dr. Koonin himself concedes that an event of such astronomically low probability would not be expected to happen in the history of the observable universe. So how does he solve the problem? While he acknowledges that someone might (theoretically) come up with an alternative pathway to explain the origins of replication and translation, he prefers to bet on the vast and infinite resources of the multiverse, where anything can happen, given enough time:

All this is not to suggest that OORT [origins of replication and translation] is a problem of “irreducible complexity” and that the systems of replication and translation could not emerge by means of biological evolution. It remains possible that a compelling evolutionary scenario is eventually developed and, perhaps, validated experimentally. However, it is clear that OORT is not just the hardest problem in all of evolutionary biology but one that is qualitatively distinct from the rest. For all other problems, the basis of biological evolution, genome replication, is in place but, in the case of OORT, the emergence of this mechanism itself is the explanandum. Thus, it is of interest to consider radically different scenarios for OORT…

The MWO [“many worlds in one” – VJT] version of the cosmological model of eternal inflation could suggest a way out of this conundrum because, in an infinite multiverse with a finite number of distinct macroscopic histories (each repeated an infinite number of times), emergence of even highly complex systems by chance is not just possible but inevitable.

Why a multiverse doesn’t obviate the need for a Designer

But as I’ve argued in a previous post, the multiverse hypothesis is plagued by two problems: first, as Dr. Robin Collins, an acknowledged authority on fine-tuning, has argued (see section 6 of the linked essay), it merely shifts the fine-tuning problem up one level, as a multiverse capable of generating any life-supporting universes at all would still need to be fine-tuned; and second, as physicist Paul Davies has pointed out, even the multiverse hypothesis implies that a sizable proportion of universes (including perhaps our own) were intelligently designed.

By default, then, Intelligent Design remains the best viable explanation for the origin of replication and translation, and hence of life on Earth. Why? Because it’s the only explanation that posits something already known to be capable of generating life, in order to account for the emergence of life on Earth. That “something” is intelligence.

How many science journalists do you know who realize that in the light of what scientists currently know, the odds of life emerging anywhere in our universe are vanishingly small? What does that tell you about the state of science reporting on the origin of life, at the present time?

Dr. Korthof’s Footnotes

Finally, for the benefit of those readers who are interested, here are the footnotes to Dr. Korthof’s review:

  1. There is a pdf of the book available on the internet with full color illustrations!
  2. Yuri I Wolf and Eugene V Koonin (2007) On the origin of the translation system and the genetic code in the RNA world by means of natural selection, exaptation, and subfunctionalization, Biol Direct. 2007; 2: 14. Free access. Here the authors show that what I call ‘the Koonin threshold’ is based on the Eigen threshold. There is no mentioning of the 1,800 threshold, but there is a qualitative statement: “Indeed, we are unaware of translation being possible without the involvement of ribosomes, the complete sets of tRNA and aminoacyl-tRNA synthetases (aaRS), and (at least, for translation to occur at a reasonable rate and accuracy) several translation factors”. They also discuss ID, irreducible complexity.
  3. Eugene V Koonin (2007) The cosmological model of eternal inflation and the transition from chance to biological evolution in the history of life, Biol Direct. 2007; 2: 15. (This is essentially Appendix B of the book.)
  4. “The origin of life is one of the hardest problems in all of science, but it is also one of the most important. Origin-of-life research has evolved into a lively, interdisciplinary field, but other scientists often view it with skepticism and even derision. This attitude is understandable and, in a sense, perhaps justified, given the “dirty,” rarely mentioned secret: Despite many interesting results to its credit, when judged by the straightforward criterion of reaching (or even approaching) the ultimate goal, the origin of life field is a failure – we still do not have even a plausible coherent model, let alone a validated scenario, for the emergence of life on Earth.” (Koonin, p. 391).
    This text has been quoted by the uncommon descent intelligent design blog (Nov 13, 2011). The fact that the ID community is happy quoting Koonin without specifying a detailed ID alternative, demonstrates they are not interested in science, but only in attacking and ridiculing science. Why don’t IDists want to know how the designer did it?

In answer to Dr. Korthof’s last question, I would personally be delighted to know how the Designer “did it.” However, before we can even address that question, the first thing we need to establish, to the satisfaction of the scientific community, is that an Intelligent Designer is required to account for the origin of life on Earth. Additionally, before we can identify how the Designer acted, we need to be clear about “where” and “when.”

Comments
Evolve:
Here’s a new study on how protocells could have formed
From the provided link:
The most fundamental requirement for the emergence of cells on the early Earth is the existence of a closed compartment, but how this came about remains a mystery.
Mung
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Upright BiPed:
A virus has a translation apparatus and a script of recorded information. A puddle of mud doesn’t.
You've not heard of the mud virus?Mung
April 28, 2014
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Thanks for the fine article. Dr Koonin claim about about probabilites in the infinite mutiverse comes from Theoretetical Physicists. Dr Alan Guth, an MIT Cosmology Guru, writes: "(In the infinite multiverese), anything that can happen will happen; in fact, it will happen an infinite number of times. Thus, the question of what is possible becomes trivial -- anything is possible, unless it violates some absolute conservation law." Koonin's point about naturalistic abiogenesis going from hopelssly improbable to being certain is exactly what Dr Guth says. That is, assuming that the assembly of the required chemistry is sufficient to start life. Whether unknown pheonomona, natural or supernatural, are also needed is unknown. Two other things we get from what Dr Guth wrote: 1) Somewhere in the infinite universe, President Obama and Sarah Palin had a love child. In fact an infinte number of them. That wouldnt violate a conservation law, would it? 2) Somehwere in the infinite universe, a majority of people think Congress is doing a good job. Sorry Dr. Guth, No 2 is ridiculous.chris haynes
April 28, 2014
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(Viruses are a case in point).
A virus has a translation apparatus and a script of recorded information. A puddle of mud doesn't.Upright BiPed
April 28, 2014
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Evolve @12:
Life is just a continuation of non-life;
No it isn't. Or at least it has not been shown to be, and there is good reason to think it may not be. Why do we not see a gradual continuation from non-life to life all around us? There is a very clear cut boundary, in all but a small handful of corner cases. The fact that we can find a couple of unclear corner cases -- among the literally millions of clear-cut cases -- does not prove the assertion in question. In fact, the objective conclusion is that it is really the exception that proves the rule. Furthermore, I presume you are not asserting that viruses replicate on their own -- without the machinery of living cells? Even for your alleged "continuation of non-life" in viruses, they still require a complete, functioning, living cell to replicate. Also, the papers you linked to do not show that RNA is capable of self-replication, which is the required step. The researcher-driven, template-guided production of polymers has been discussed several times on this site. None of them have demonstrated self-replication, much less anything that has a chance of working in the real world outside the lab.Eric Anderson
April 28, 2014
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Here's a new study on how protocells could have formed: http://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2014/april/early-cells-formation.htmlEvolve
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This doesn't sound very convincing. A DNA-Translation system may not have been essential for the first life. Life is just a continuation of non-life; there's no clear-cut boundary between the two (Viruses are a case in point). As such, the first protocells may have thrived using ribozymes which can function both as a genetic material as well as a catalyst to promote rudimentary metabolism. RNA has been shown to be capable of copying itself in the absence of protein enzymes: http://www.nature.com/nchem/journal/v3/n8/full/nchem.1086.html http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6162/1098.full RNA can also synthesize ribozymes capable of cleaving and joining other RNA molecules: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/332/6026/209 These processes can generate multiple RNA molecules of varying lengths & sequences which can then serve many functions. So the various RNA species Koonin mentions don't have to polymerize spontaneously.Evolve
April 28, 2014
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The major problem with the RNA-world theory is its lack of experimental evidence. “Some writers,” says Robert Shapiro, professor emeritus of chemistry at New York University, “have presumed that all life’s building blocks could be formed with ease in Miller-type experiments and were present in meteorites. This is not the case.” Consider the RNA molecule. It is constructed of smaller molecules called nucleotides. A nucleotide is a different molecule from an amino acid and is only slightly more complex. Shapiro says that “no nucleotides of any kind have been reported as products of spark-discharge experiments or in studies of meteorites.” He further states that the probability of a self-replicating RNA molecule randomly assembling from a pool of chemical building blocks “is so vanishingly small that its happening even once anywhere in the visible universe would count as a piece of exceptional good luck.” [Scientific American, “A Simpler Origin for Life,” by Robert Shapiro, June 2007, p. 48.] It should be noted that Professor Shapiro does not believe that life was created. He believes that life arose by chance in some fashion not yet fully understood. In 2009, scientists at the University of Manchester, England, reported making some nucleotides in their lab. However, Shapiro states that their recipe “definitely does not meet my criteria for a plausible pathway to the RNA world.” The “which came first” problem rears its head when one considers that RNA is required to make proteins, but proteins are involved in the production of RNA. But what if somehow both proteins and RNA molecules did appear by chance in the same place at the same time? Would they then cooperate and form a self-replicating type of life? Hubert Yockey (not a creationist) writes: “It is impossible that the origin of life was ‘proteins first.’” [Information Theory, Evolution, and the Origin of Life, by Hubert P. Yockey, 2005, p. 182.] “The probability of this happening by chance (given a random mixture of proteins and RNA) seems astronomically low,” says Dr. Carol Cleland (also not a creationist), a member of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s Astrobiology Institute. “Yet,” she continues, “most researchers seem to assume that if they can make sense of the independent production of proteins and RNA under natural primordial conditions, the coordination will somehow take care of itself.” Regarding the current theories of how these building blocks of life could have arisen by chance, she says: “None of them have provided us with a very satisfying story about how this happened.” [NASA’s Astrobiology Magazine, “Life’s Working Definition—Does It Work?” (http://www.nasa.gov/ vision/universe/starsgalaxies/ life’s_working_definition.html)]Barb
April 28, 2014
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Dr. Torley, as to the last portion:
This text has been quoted by the uncommon descent intelligent design blog (Nov 13, 2011). The fact that the ID community is happy quoting Koonin without specifying a detailed ID alternative, demonstrates they are not interested in science, but only in attacking and ridiculing science. Why don’t IDists want to know how the designer did it?
Actually I am very interested in 'science', and I'm very offended that atheistic materialists keep trying to highjack the definition of 'science', trying to make science a purely materialistic endeavor, and trying to strip 'science' of its necessary Theistic premises. Necessary premises which gave birth to modern science and which continue to be necessary for its continued success:
Science and Theism: Concord, not Conflict* – Robert C. Koons IV. The Dependency of Science Upon Theism (Page 21) Excerpt: Far from undermining the credibility of theism, the remarkable success of science in modern times is a remarkable confirmation of the truth of theism. It was from the perspective of Judeo-Christian theism—and from the perspective alone—that it was predictable that science would have succeeded as it has. Without the faith in the rational intelligibility of the world and the divine vocation of human beings to master it, modern science would never have been possible, and, even today, the continued rationality of the enterprise of science depends on convictions that can be reasonably grounded only in theistic metaphysics. http://www.robkoons.net/media/69b0dd04a9d2fc6dffff80b3ffffd524.pdf "Modern science was conceived, and born, and flourished in the matrix of Christian theism. Only liberal doses of self-deception and double-think, I believe, will permit it to flourish in the context of Darwinian naturalism." ~ Alvin Plantinga "Nothing in evolution can account for the soul of man. The difference between man and the other animals is unbridgeable. Mathematics is alone sufficient to prove in man the possession of a faculty unexistent in other creatures. Then you have music and the artistic faculty. No, the soul was a separate creation." Alfred Russell Wallace, New Thoughts on Evolution, 1910 “Geometry is unique and eternal, a reflection from the mind of God. That mankind shares in it is because man is an image of God.” – Johannes Kepler Mathematics and Physics – A Happy Coincidence? – William Lane Craig – video http://www.metacafe.com/w/9826382
It is of little wonder to learn that Darwinian evolution, much less the origin of life itself, has no mathematical basis so as to demarcate it from pseudoscience:
“On the other hand, I disagree that Darwin’s theory is as `solid as any explanation in science.; Disagree? I regard the claim as preposterous. Quantum electrodynamics is accurate to thirteen or so decimal places; so, too, general relativity. A leaf trembling in the wrong way would suffice to shatter either theory. What can Darwinian theory offer in comparison?” (Berlinski, D., “A Scientific Scandal?: David Berlinski & Critics,” Commentary, July 8, 2003) Oxford University Seeks Mathemagician — May 5th, 2011 by Douglas Axe Excerpt: “Grand theories in physics are usually expressed in mathematics. Newton’s mechanics and Einstein’s theory of special relativity are essentially equations. Words are needed only to interpret the terms. Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection has obstinately remained in words since 1859.”… http://biologicinstitute.org/2011/05/05/oxford-university-seeks-mathemagician/ Active Information in Metabiology – Winston Ewert, William A. Dembski, Robert J. Marks II – 2013 Except page 9: Chaitin states [3], “For many years I have thought that it is a mathematical scandal that we do not have proof that Darwinian evolution works.” In fact, mathematics has consistently demonstrated that undirected Darwinian evolution does not work. http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2013.4/BIO-C.2013.4 “In discussions with biologists I met large difficulties when they apply the concept of ‘natural selection’ in a rather wide field, without being able to estimate the probability of the occurrence in a empirically given time of just those events, which have been important for the biological evolution. Treating the empirical time scale of the evolution theoretically as infinity they have then an easy game, apparently to avoid the concept of purposesiveness. While they pretend to stay in this way completely ‘scientific’ and ‘rational,’ they become actually very irrational, particularly because they use the word ‘chance’, not any longer combined with estimations of a mathematically defined probability, in its application to very rare single events more or less synonymous with the old word ‘miracle.’” Wolfgang Pauli - “It is our contention that if ‘random’ is given a serious and crucial interpretation from a probabilistic point of view, the randomness postulate is highly implausible and that an adequate scientific theory of evolution must await the discovery and elucidation of new natural laws—physical, physico-chemical, and biological.” Murray Eden, “Inadequacies of Neo-Darwinian Evolution as a Scientific Theory,” Mathematical Challenges to the Neo-Darwinian Interpretation of Evolution, editors Paul S. Moorhead and Martin M. Kaplan, June 1967, p. 109.
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Dionisio @ 7 For this universe, Koonin put the odds at &lt 10^-1018 For the next universe, Koonin put the odds at &lt 10^-1018 For every universe, Koonin put the odds at &lt 10^-1018 But Koonin put the odds for the *combination* of all 10^1018 universes and more (i.e. an infinite number of parallel "worlds"), that at least one of them will beat those odds, as 10^-1018 x 10^1018 = 1 (i.e. inevitable). Some (e.g. Koonin) would argue that our very existance is proof that *if* the "Many Worlds in One" (i.e. Multiverse) theory is true, then our universe is "the one" out of 10^1018 other universes in which those odds were beaten by chance. This works mathematically because it is assumed that "chance" takes a different path in each of the many worlds, and that in one of them "chance" will take a successful shortcut to an RNA world much quicker (the serendipitous accident happens sooner) than the full amount of time required to sequentially, by trial and error, attempt each of the 10^1018 "in vivo" experiments to arrive at a successful reproducing RNA world. It's a tautology, but tautologies can be true, they're just useless to prove anything, and an untestable tautology that can't even be tested, scientifically, emprically with observable evidence is even more useless. But Koonin's point is, given the insurmountable low probability for abiogenesis by chance in our universe (because the time required for chance to overcome the low odds &lt 10^-1018) didn't exist in our universe, then the only alternative to an Intelligent Design solution to the OOL problems is the tautological grasp at straws of the "Many Worlds in One". Koonin's analysis is essentially a 'wakeup call' for evolutionists who reject ID, that the only other game in this world is try to prove that there were/are an infinite number of other worlds such that our world stood a mathematical chance of accidentally producing an RNA world.Charles
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fyi link #2 above should be: "On the origin of the translation system and the genetic code in the RNA world by means of natural selection, exaptation, and subfunctionalization" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1894784/Charles
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vjtorley @ 2
I suppose Dr. Koonin would reply that from the perspective of the multiverse as a whole, infinite probabilistic resources are available, as there could be an infinite number of universes. In some of these, life would appear quickly, in others slowly, and in others, not at all. Ditto for the mechanisms of the cell.
Dear Dr. Torley, Thank you for your comments. I still don't understand the implications of Dr. Koonin's ideas for this current universe. What Dr. Koonin would reply might sound ok for other hypothetical universes, which we don't observe yet, but my questions are related to this one we are in now, which hosts abundant and rich life, and science seems to claim (so far) how long ago this life-hosting planet came to be, how long ago it must have been suitable for the kind of life forms it hosts, and how long ago biological life allegedly appeared. Would any of those current scientific claims change as a result of the multiverse hypothesis?Dionisio
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UB @5:
In truth, the organization of the translation apparatus specifically incorporates an independence from determinism because if it were fully dependent on physical determinism it simply could not function.
Exactly. Indeed, it isn't just the case that determinism cannot result in such a system. It is anathema to such a system.Eric Anderson
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The appeal to a multi-verse is merely an extension of the materialist narrative; suggesting that some unknown feature of physical law can account for the rise of the translation apparatus. In truth, the organization of the translation apparatus specifically incorporates an independence from determinism because if it were fully dependent on physical determinism it simply could not function. If there was ever a concept were the materialist ideology completely subverts and blinds its adherents, it is most certainly the concept of information.Upright BiPed
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Consider: (i) getting a universe with a particular set of physical laws, is a separate, independent event from (ii) what happens within the parameters of those laws after the universe arises. So, we have two factors, independent of each other. Therefore, we in fact have to multiply the factors in order to assess the actual odds. In other words, if there are actually multiple universes with different sets of physical laws, then we have to multiply (i) the odds of getting a universe with the right set of laws, times (ii) the odds of life arising within that set of laws. So, just to throw out a number, if the odds of getting a universe with the physical laws and constants of our universe is 10^-1018, then the odds of life arising in all of known reality is 10^-1018 (odds of getting the right kind of universe) * 10^-1018 (odds of life arising, given the right kinds of laws). So the multiverse argument doesn't help the odds one bit. Potentially, it even makes things a lot worse. The rhetorical value of the multiverse idea to account for life is not so much to increase the mathematical odds, but to function as a perversion of the anthropic principle: "We're here to observe it, so obviously life arose here." The multiverse doesn't improve the odds in a mathematical sense, it is just an attempt to argue, in a very vague and unspecified way, that -- "Well, lots of things can happen, so we shouldn't be surprised if something highly unusual happened somewhere sometime. And if it hadn't happened, we wouldn't be here talking about it. So, therefore, the unusual must have happened." It is nothing more, not one whit more substantive, than another "just-so" story. It is in the long tradition of the materialist explanation for the universe, life, meaning, everything: Stuff Happens.Eric Anderson
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vjtorley: You mentioned two problems with explaining the origin of life by recurring to the multiverse idea. There is another, arguably more significant, problem. Namely: It doesn't make any difference whether there are a gazillion other universes out there. We are trying to explain the origin of life in this universe, given this set of physical laws in our universe. It makes not one whit of difference whether there are a bunch of other universes out there. Given the existence of our universe, the odds of life originating are 10^-1018 (per Koonin's number). Yes, the multiverse idea pushes the fine-tuning up a level. Yes, it would require a near-infinite number of other universes. Yes, there is precious little evidence for any other universe, and no rational materialistic explanation for what could be producing such universes. But more importantly, the existence of other universes is simply irrelevant for explaining how life came about in our universe.Eric Anderson
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Hi Dionisio, Thank you for your post. I suppose Dr. Koonin would reply that from the perspective of the multiverse as a whole, infinite probabilistic resources are available, as there could be an infinite number of universes. In some of these, life would appear quickly, in others slowly, and in others, not at all. Ditto for the mechanisms of the cell.vjtorley
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...the multiverse hypothesis is plagued by two problems: first, as Dr. Robin Collins, an acknowledged authority on fine-tuning, has argued (see section 6 of the linked essay), it merely shifts the fine-tuning problem up one level, as a multiverse capable of generating any life-supporting universes at all would still need to be fine-tuned; and second, as physicist Paul Davies has pointed out, even the multiverse hypothesis implies that a sizable proportion of universes (including perhaps our own) were intelligently designed.
What about third, even with the multiverse hypothesis, wouldn't the time from the beginning of this planet to the appearance of the first cell on it, still remain the same? How different would that initial abiogenesis process be for the multiverse case? Also, how would the multiverse hypothesis affect the appearance of the complex mechanisms behind the cell fate determination, differentiation and migration, that are observed during the human embryonic development? Also, how would the multiverse hypothesis affect the appearance of the elaborate mechanisms behind the genotype-phenotype association? Thanks. Don't know if my questions make any sense, though.Dionisio
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