His theories predict countless things accurately but his key theory of general relativity doesn’t mesh with quantum mechanics:
The most important reason physicists think that general relativity must be wrong is that it doesn’t work together with quantum mechanics. General relativity is not a quantum theory, it’s instead a “classical” theory as physicists say. It doesn’t know anything about the Heisenberg uncertainty principle or about particles that can be in two places at the same time and that kind of thing. And this means we simply don’t have a theory of gravity for quantum particles. Even though all matter is made of quantum particles.
Let that sink in for a moment. We don’t know how matter manages to gravitate even though the fact that matter *does gravitate is the most basic observation about physics that we make in our daily life.
This is why most physicists currently believe that general relativity has a quantum version, often called “quantum gravity”, just that no one has yet managed to write down the equations for it. Another reason that physicists think Einstein’s theory can’t be entirely correct is that it predicts the existence of singularities, inside black holes and at the big bang. At those singularities, the theory breaks down, so general relativity basically predicts its own demise.
Sabine Hossenfelder, “These Experiments Could Prove Einstein Wrong” at BackRe(Action) (March 26, 2022)
Significantly, no experiment could prove Darwin wrong. But that’s not because he’s right; it’s because Darwinism has become a cultural way of seeing the world and, as such, isn’t usually testable.
Sabine Hossenfelder said: “if you formulate the mathematics correctly it tells you how nature works, and that may not be how even its inventor thought it would work. It also tells us it could take a really long time to understand a theory”
Maybe every one needs to go back 1,800 years and start over to revisit the possibility that the earth is at absolute rest relative to a universe that revolves around it every 24 hours. Maybe they will find the things that they can’t find now, like aether, dark energy, dark mass, centrifugal force, the true source of gravity — and maybe even God.
“Darwinism” is a structure made from the dried stalks of cereal plants which is no doubt very pleasant beat up but has little to do with science.
What would be most helpful would be for ID/creationism proponents to contact their respective Designers/God and ask them if they wouldn’t mind providing us with a little more information about the structure and working principles of this – or any other – Universe as they seem to have forgotten to include a user manual with this one. If it wouldn’t be too much trouble.
As to: “We don’t know how matter manages to gravitate even though the fact that matter *does gravitate is the most basic observation about physics that we make in our daily life.”
Well seeing that it is now known that mass is not an intrinsic property of matter, I can see why Hossenfelder put an asterisk in her remark, “matter *does gravitate”, without providing an precise explanation for her use of an asterisk at the end of her article.
The last time we had contact with a perspective “creator” we beat him, humiliated him, and tortured him to death for being helpful, sooooooooo yeah, would not shocked if our number might have been block till further notice
Sabine Hossenfelder holds out hope, (in spite of the fact that general relativity has steadfastly resisted all attempts to experimentally falsify it), that a single mathematical ‘theory of everything’ will be forthcoming if general relativity manages to be experimentally overturned,
Yet Sabine Hossenfelder is a Darwinian atheist who believes that God has “no observable consequences.”
And yet, as a Darwinian atheist who holds that God has “no observable consequences”, Hossenfelder is then left completely in the dark as to explaining exactly why the immaterial world of mathematics should even be applicable to the physical universe in the first place.
In fact, both Eugene Wigner, (who won a Nobel prize for his work in quantum mechanics), and Albert Einstein, (who needs no introduction), are both on record as to regarding it as a miracle that mathematics should even be applicable to the universe.
Moreover, Wigner, in the process of calling the applicability of mathematics a miracle, rightly called into question the ability of natural selection to produce our ‘reasoning power to the perfection which it seems to possess.’.
As well, Einstein, in the process of calling it a miracle, chastised ‘professional atheists’ for erroneously believing they had “successfully rid the world of gods”
And the last time a checked, miracles are considered the sole province of God.
Thus, although Sabine Hossenfelder may personally hold that God has “no observable consequences”, it readily appears that God has been very ‘sloppy’ in trying to conceal Himself from Hossenfelder in that God is, apparently, not shy about revealing Himself to her in the ‘miraculous’ mathematical equations that she herself is using to try to understand the ‘orderly’ universe that He has created.
Supplemental notes:
Verse:
Once more, Seversky gibbers from Planet Irrelevant.
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So, an omniscient, omnipotent, immortal being capable of creating – and, presumably, destroying – entire universes – can be harmed in the slightest by puny creatures like us? I don’t think so. That would be like God making a rock so heavy He can’t lift it. Ever heard of a contradiction?
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There is a real problem reconciling relativity with quantum theory. Something is wrong somewhere, as you’ve mentioned before. You seem to think the solution lies in the Shroud of Turin but the reasons why are a bit vague.
Perhaps that’s why the title of her video is a question. She’s pointing out that, good as quantum and relativity theories are, they still leave profound questions for which we do not have answers as yet. No one does.
Yes, meaning that neither of them had an explanation for that yet, not that there wasn’t one.
Wigner was a theoretical physicist not a god – although some of them seem to think they are pretty close to one and so, apparently, do you. He was not an evolutionary biologist. He had no explanation for how our consciousness and powers of reason could have emerged through evolutionary processes? Well, join the club. Maybe, instead of implying that because he couldn’t think of an explanation there couldn’t be one, he could have lent his giant intellect to the search for one.
Of course. Ridding the world of gods as an explanation, does not of itself provide an alternative explanation. But it might be a step in the right direction.
It doesn’t seem a bit odd to you that a God who, in Biblical times, was willing to drop in for a chat with us whenever the mood took him, is now so coy about having any contact with us whatsoever?
Sev: “Ever heard of a contradiction?”
Like the logical contradiction of an atheist claiming that morality does not exist and yet acting like he has an objective moral basis to judge God by?
The moral argument is summed up at the 4:36 minute mark of the video and can be stated as such:
Verse:
Seversky states, “It doesn’t seem a bit odd to you that a God who, in Biblical times, was willing to drop in for a chat with us whenever the mood took him, is now so coy about having any contact with us whatsoever?”
Well actually Seversky, God is not nearly as ‘coy’ and distant as you falsely believe. I know several people, myself included, who have had ‘spiritual experiences’ with God that let them know that God is not ‘coy’ and distant but is instead very close and personal to each of us.
Here is my personal testimony:
Here are some other examples of the different, and ‘strange’, ways God has chosen to speak into different people’s lives,,,:
Verse and quote:
Sev,
Every time you turn on a light or look at the stars is evidence of God. Energy cannot be created, yet the eternal force exists. Until anyone can prove that energy can come about randomly, God must be the solution.
Eventually, Einstein will be proven wrong, just as everyone does. Given how little we know, every theory will get replaced by others. More knowledge means greater understanding.
No theory is perfect. All come and go given enough time.
BA says “Strange But True”
It is a strange testimony, but not uncommon. I am a member of an organization that has existed more than 100 years which has randomly placed over a billion of Bibles and New Testaments all over the world — mostly since just before the start of WWII. “Strange but true” testimonies like BA’s probably number in the thousands over those years as a result of someone just finding a Bible passage in one of those books at a certain point of time.
God will be found when a lost person seeks Him.
P.S. all those dusty Bibles laying around will be greatly sought after before long, given the trajectory the world is currently on.
I noticed that the John Lennox video link is dead. So here is another video link where John Lennox also tells his ‘miracle story’.
Soulshine – “Let your soul shine” – Allman Brothers Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CecdQehjJUg
🙂
My list of miracles…
BA77, first off, thanks for your testimony! That was encouraging! Also, thanks for the link to Prof Lennox. He is awesome. Never heard that story. If everyone is patient to do so, I have a personal testimony at the bottom of this post as well…
I have been compiling a list of videos/documents that I have filed as “woo woo” stories that seem credible to me. Here are some of the better ones:
Muslim woman healed by Jesus out of coma
https://www.premierchristianity.com/testimonies/i-was-a-muslim-but-jesus-woke-me-from-a-coma-and-healed-me-now-my-whole-family-believes/5642.article
Remnant Radio Divine Guidance story Michael Rowntree leaving his church 55:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwAa7QKr78s
Spiritual warfare of girl on mission trip in canada: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVHjM8f7-38&t=1s
MS And Stomach Cancer healed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg8Rs8l4UmI
Keith Guinta in Phillipines brothel bar
https://www.winepatch.org/blog/jesus-walks-into-a-bar
Jeff Durbin Prophecy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_Go1CIUgs&t=90s
Matt Chandler Prophecy story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM03KpOfSg0
Ray comfort Prophecy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivExpWZJf84
Ray comfort Demons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L851q90nRFU
*** This one below is from a cessationist Presbyterian who is a scholar.
RC Sproul providence story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh-tufYsKvU&t=373s
Charles Spurgeon words of knowledge: (another cessationist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec98ayNyuHs
John Piper Demons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SK07TY1uh0
***Jeff Durbin Son healed spina bifida: Crazy one that even goes in detail about what to name the child (another cessationist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8Hzc1BwtQ
Tongues witnessing at planned parenthood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60zRMPUoUtY
Trinity Radio 2 miracles: (Pastor Duane Miller voice healed during a sermon & Lady in wheelchair with MS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORWztI184U0&t=1684s
Steve Fuller led to Abu Dhabi by dreams:
https://livingbyfaithblog.com/2014/12/19/how-god-called-us-to-move-to-abu-dhabi/
Steve fuller led to lead church in San Jose by dream:
https://livingbyfaithblog.com/2012/06/27/my-most-powerful-experience-of-a-spiritual-gift/
Crazy Testimony of demons cast out by selfish no more channel regular guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh7kdsKG4_4
Craig Keener paper on demonic possession:
https://craigkeener.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Crooked-Spirits-from-Journal-of-Mind-and-Behavior-39-4-2018-complete.pdf
Gastroparesis healed peer review:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0965229918313116
12 years of blindness healed peer review:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550830720300926?fbclid=IwAR0tgsnm-fRTDImK5eGZSndVW1bNzfijdyIiqF9pkZo07ywT3wHyFWfkr-Y
12 years of blindness healed peer review:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550830720300926?fbclid=IwAR0tgsnm-fRTDImK5eGZSndVW1bNzfijdyIiqF9pkZo07ywT3wHyFWfkr-Y
Girl freed of eating disorder immediately:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXWR5UL9BKo&t=6s
Atheist gets delivered in Russian church: (steven of north)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvp55bVy3o&t=0s
Paul Washer peru buying books story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ7fVB90B9M
Jon Courson tongues farzi
https://www.godreports.com/2021/02/bartender-overhears-man-speaking-in-tongues-receives-jesus-after-recognizing-farsi/
Muslim girl healed testifies on tik tok via. Steven of north
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1YTbXZWY9o
Murdered for allah but god forgives (one for Israel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtjMANw2hCA
Presbyterian prayer meeting healing of heart virus:
https://www.challies.com/quotes/a-presbyterian-healing-service/
v. Raymond Edman healed story
https://www.cslewisinstitute.org/webfm_send/891
Salimbaa and Philippines people
https://www.godreports.com/2021/02/dream-led-to-stolen-golden-bowl-instrument-and-hidden-tribe/
https://www.calebbyerly.org/blogs/news/the-salimbaa-story
testify channel guy (Erick Manning) talks about hearing a voice to change lanes which kept him from a wreck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TK-g01qjbk&t=268s
Kay smith tongues
http://www.rondaniel.com/libra.....ongues.php
Baptism of the Holy spirit stories:
https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/212132-baptism-of-the-holy-spirit-testimonies/
Demonic possession and Haitian Loa possession
https://home.snu.edu/~hculbert/voodoo.htm
buddha to christ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ucJ2m5WcNI&t=3374s
Atheist astrophysicist converts to christ, has vision of daughter
https://jamesbishopblog.com/2015/05/23/former-atheist-astrophysicist-sarah-salviander-explains-her-journey-to-christianity/
Muslim dreams/visions Tom Doyle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqNUJm457jY&t=73s
Jesus rescues Iranian woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OljbbvoQVKA
Nepali man healed for liver and hep. B
https://www.imb.org/2018/04/23/lazaruss-life-nepali-musician-recalls-miraculous-resurrection/
IMB missionary sees demonic possession
https://www.imb.org/2018/04/23/lazaruss-life-nepali-musician-recalls-miraculous-resurrection/
God shows himself to muslim in 3 dreams to someone IMB-details about caretaker
https://www.imb.org/2021/03/24/central-asian-meets-god-listens/
Lady gets delivered from prayer at John Ramirez thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kWaSiPP7Z8&t=678s
Sean from Revealing truth describes two healings he saw that were later revoked after sin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzluLpidBxQ
Jesus appears to a muslim woman in her dreams
https://www.premierchristianity.com/home/jesus-appeared-to-me-in-a-dream/3985.article
Single Woman led to do missions in Northern India through 3 consecutive dreams/other miracles
https://www.persecutionblog.com/2017/04/vom-radio-when-we-say-yes-to-god.html
Water bottle miracle/doll story:
https://www.epm.org/resources/2011/Jun/7/hot-water-bottle-true-story/
deliverance testimony on remnant radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-8sUr55W84
Post about historical demon casting out
https://ask.ligonier.org/podcast-episodes/can-christians-cast-out-demons
Haitian Priest talks exorcism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7Q27st4Zak
Atheist becomes Christian after NDE
https://jamesbishopblog.com/2017/03/08/atheist-professor-howard-storm-converts-to-christianity-after-his-near-death-experience/
Christian doubter has vision of Jesus during prayer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFMlbgMo-_U
Blog post about ancient Christianity and exorcism:
https://lausanne.org/content/historical-overview-1
Doug Wilson and Mark Driscoll… on spiritual gifts. Wilson knew there was sexuality involved 11:50-12:50. & 16:52 finished the story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vEiqqfvsh0
Testimony of French atheist (woo woo @ 10:30 mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZwC2ndcb50
Ben Malcolmson @ usc gives out bibles…conversion
https://sportsspectrum.com/sport/football/2018/12/24/magazine-and-that-is-our-god-ben-malcolmsons-powerful-story-of-planting-gods-word/
Missionary dies of malaria reaching one young boy, but God..
Svea Flood story
https://www.evangelicalmagazine.com/article/a-kernel-of-wheat-in-the-ground/
Also encouraged reading: Insanity of God by Nik Ripken, The Autobiography of George Muller, Dreams and Visions by Tom Doyle, God’s Smuggler by Brother Andrew, “The found the secret” by V. Raymond Edman, The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom…
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How many have to be true for Jesus to be Lord and materialism to be dead?
I also have a couple pages of testimonies from first hand people when we had discussions… things like body being taken over, a guy waking up in the middle of the night with the tv on and flashing colors and feeling strangled, a woman dreaming of a little boy and feeling like she was supposed to find the other one who eventually adopted twins providentially, a man seeing his dad shoot up out of his bed and scream and then die..who converted because he knew his dad faced judgment, a dream from a local student, a vision of an angel from a friend, a man who was told to buy a house with yellow flowers in the middle of the winter who had to wait for another person to make an offer and accept only to default (which led to him getting it) a colleague being approached by a stranger at a beach to console him about a career change in a tumultuous time and then disappeared, a woman recently passing away in our congregation who became clear minded right before death and described seeing her miscarried child in detail one day before death.. etc.
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***——Personal testimony: (kind of long, and maybe just a “you had to be there” type of story…****—–
I also had a radical confirmation of God’s hand in a time of great struggle and existential crisis.
I had been witnessing to a former student (former high school teacher here)… and he had accepted Christ or so it seemed. Then he decided that the Bible writers were on psychedelics (John Mark Allegro/Joe Rogan..yeesh) and basically renounced faith… and it left me SUPER discouraged. I had seen God opening doors and moving and then this shock. It really threw me for a loop as this kid was evangelizing, had been baptized, was absorbing the Bible, etc. (If only Jesus had told us that some will pop up fast and then wilt?).. Anyways, I was left trying to debunk the ‘shroom gospel… and was just on spiritual empty wondering “where are you God?” At that time I was in agony and crying out to God… and then I checked facebook (why?) but a mother of a former student shared a story….
“We went back to the doctor last week about ——‘s elbow, and after 3 weeks the x-rays showed no change or healing that has taken place. ? They ordered an MRI, which she was able to get on Saturday. Afterwards, we went to (restaurant) for lunch, and as we were paying a lady that was taking the money asked —- (girl name) what she did to her arm. Without going into any detail she just replied that she broke it. The lady asked if she believed in the power of prayer and if she could pray for her. (girl name) said “yes” and the lady put her hand on her elbow and began praying; “Lord, I know she’s a key player in basketball & wants to get back to playing, but there’s nerve and ligament damage to her elbow. Please heal and restore her fully without surgery if it be your will.” ?I stopped what I was doing, looked at her and began bawling asking her how she knew any of this (at that time we had just come from her mri & had no results, and nothing was even said about basketball). She said for some reason when (girl name) walked up there God was telling her she needed to pray for her & those words just came to her. I turned around to hear a couple people say “amen,” and a couple others were also wiping tears from their eyes. The entrance was full of people waiting to be seated and to pay, and I’m so thankful this “stranger” stopped what she was doing and was obedient to God and prayed over (girl name). We did get the mri results back saying she does have a ligament tear and possible ulnar neuropathy, but praise God NO surgery is needed!! Her physical therapist is so amazed at her progress this week and says she plans to take her out of the brace next Monday!!! (girl name) is definitely giving it 110% (which doesn’t surprise me), but I truly believe the prayers from that stranger & our prayers which have not ceased are doing wonders!! ?? May God bless that wonderful, sweet lady, and I pray that she knows the impact her prayers had on us that day!”
So I read that and think..that’s really cool, and it gave me comfort to sleep that night….
The next day, still feeling very low (and thinking I had Covid over the holidays on top of it)… I’m back to agony… I watched the testimony of Jeff Durbin’s son being healed of spina bifida (link above) and was encouraged… then I messaged the mother and just told her how encouraging her sharing her story was…
backtrack 1 or 2 days….
I was meeting with another young man I was discipling who was involved with this other de-convert’s life. He mentioned in our conversation, which was super somber and tough.. about the locker room story he heard about the young lady above making derogatory jokes toward clergy (and she was one of the leaders of a faith group on campus)… it was kind of a left field comment, but I kind of said, “well, what else could go wrong” etc…. I filed it away and moved on.
Then, going back to that morning (Christmas Eve).. I had messaged the mom who posted… and she said “there is more to the story”… during the time that the lady at the restaurant was praying over her and talking with her, she REBUKED the young lady 3 TIMES to her face and told her to watch her mouth. Mom had no idea what the lady was talking about, as of course the daughter doesn’t care to lip off or be derogatory around mom…
But, at that moment, I was the only one who knew both ends of the story. In the midst of existential angst and doubt and depression. I was blown away. The timing, the random thread of a conversation a day or two before (I forget exactly) but in that moment I was blown away and left in a puddle of tears. God is so amazing. I was up all night just worshipping Jesus and in awe of his majesty.
I can’t see how that wasn’t a direct contact to ME alone in that moment to confirm what had been spoken. Who in the world rebukes a young lady who is a stranger in public like that in front of a crowd as well as praying for healing? The rebuking thing was just too much to even fathom. Just a ridiculous story…
I know, people can write it off as coincidence or whatever, but it was hard to escape the truth for me in that moment….
By the way, the girl didn’t have surgery and returned to playing basketball soon after… and hasn’t had an issue since… Now you know…the rest of the story (thanks Paul Harvey).
My post just before was so long it was moderated for a day (and isn’t listed on the recent posts)… I hope you will come back to this thread to interact with it.