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In a comment to my last post timothya asked “Can anyone provide a brief synopsis of a reliable way of knowing that is founded on a method other than science?”

That timothya would even ask such a question suggests that he is sore tempted by the siren’s song of scientism. To which I say, “lash yourself to the mast timothya, and let me help you sail past this dangerous island.”

Before we can deal with the manifold errors of scientism we must first define what we are talking about. “Scientism” is the idea that science provides the only valid way to know any truth. Some scientists have stretched the idea even further and asserted that since we can know truth only through science, science is therefore the only competent authority on any subject. For example, the article cited in my last post refers to Peter Atkins, who wrote, “There appear to be no bounds to [science’s] competence. . . . This claim of universal competence may seem arrogant, but it appears to be justified.”

It is, of course, true that in the last 400 years science has been wildly successful within its realm of competency. In that relatively brief period through the methods of science we have expanded our knowledge about the world and increased our material comfort in ways unimaginable in the rest of recorded history combined. There is no denying that.

The problem is that the very brilliance of science’s success has blinded people like Atkins to the limitations of the scientific method. Properly understood, science is simply a method of investigating empirical claims that has not changed much since the time of Francis Bacon (ca 1600):

Ask a question about the world: How can I cure this disease?
Formulate a hypothesis: Vaccine X will cure this disease.
Test the prediction of the hypothesis: Perform a double-blind experiment on 5,000 subjects.
Analysis: Compare the prediction of the null hypothesis to the alternative hypothesis.

The first limitation I would point out is that this method does not cover even the whole realm of the “empirical.” Consider history for example. We know with a high degree of reliability that Abraham Lincoln was the president of the United States in 1863. I did not arrive at this knowledge through scientific means. I know it because someone told me, and they in turn learned it from someone else, who in turn learned it from someone else back to the actual people who witnessed first-hand a man who called himself “Abraham Lincoln” sitting in the White House in 1863 and acting for all the world like he was the president of the United States.

Consider geography. I have never been to Russia, but I am quite certain that Moscow is the capital of that country. I did not arrive at this knowledge through scientific means either.

If timothya will stop and think a moment, he will realize that practically everything he knows he knows because someone told him, not because the truth of the proposition has been confirmed by science.

Even some knowledge that is almost universally considered “scientific” was not, strictly speaking, obtained through application of the scientific method. Consider Neo-Darwinian Evolution (“NDE”), the standard model of how life diversified and spread throughout the earth. NDE is an integration of Darwin’s original theory of natural selection and Mendelian genetics. And I am here to tell you that many of the predictions of NDE – including especially its most spectacular claims – have never been (indeed cannot be) subjected to experimental verification.

For example, NDE holds that new body plans result from the accretion of random changes to the genome (whether through mutations or drift or what have you) sorted through a fitness function called “natural selection.” It might come as a surprise to many of my readers, but this prediction of NDE has NEVER been verified experimentally despite countless thousands of attempts (primarily on hapless fruit flies). Let me say that again: No scientist has EVER observed in real time a new body plan coming into existence through a process of random changes to the genome sorted by natural selection.

“What about Darwin’s finches and those white and gray moths and the rise of antibacterial resistance I’ve heard about?” you might ask. Fair question. We absolutely must give Darwin his due. These and other examples of “microevolution” have been observed countless times. But it is one thing to say, for example, that the average size of finch beaks increases in times of famine due to the processes of NDE. It is something altogether different to say that finches themselves came into being in the first place through the processes of NDE. The former statement has been confirmed experimentally. The latter has not. Rather, the latter statement is the product of an inference – i.e., NDE causes small changes to organisms; therefore NDE causes big changes to organisms too.

Note that it is not my purpose here to argue that NDE’s claims about how new body plans came into existence are necessarily wrong (though I think they are) simply because those claims have not been confirmed by direct observation through scientific experiments. My point is that evolutionary biology, as an historical science, is based not on strict application of the scientific method. Instead, it is based on inferences from the data (an extrapolation if you will) that are themselves not subject to scientific verification in the form of direct observation.

Here are some other indisputably true things (or in timothya’s parlance “things we know reliably”) that were not derived through application of the scientific method:

The principles of logic

For any given proposition X, X cannot be both true and false at the same time and under the same formal circumstances.

The law of non-contradiction cannot be proven or disproven experimentally. It is known a priori.

The principles of mathematics

7 + 2 = 9.

Like the axioms of logic, mathematics is known a priori.

The principles undergirding the scientific enterprise itself

This one might surprise someone like timothya who is tempted by scientism, but the assumptions upon which the scientific enterprise itself is built are not subject, even in principle, to scientific verification or falsification.

For example, scientists assume (they do not know) that scientific laws (e.g., gravity) operate the same way in the furthest reaches of the universe as they do here on earth. Obviously, there is no way to confirm this assumption experimentally and it will forever remain an assumption, not an experimentally verified fact.

Scientists assume the universe is always and in all places rational and therefore it can be successfully modeled. Water runs downhill today and it will run downhill tomorrow. It will not suddenly start running uphill. In other words, scientists assume that the regularities they observe (which they call “laws of science”) will hold. No scientist can say “why” water runs downhill other than to say that gravity makes water run downhill. But the law of gravity is not a causal agent. Rather, it is an observed regularity. In other words, in 100% of the experiments on earth, water has run downhill, and from that we infer a general principle that things on earth always fall down and we call that general principle “gravity.” Thus, saying that water runs downhill because of the law of gravity is at bottom saying nothing more than water runs downhill because water runs downhill. Chesterton was right. Water runs downhill because it is bewitched.

Love

I love my wife. My knowledge of my love for my wife is completely reliable; yet I did not arrive at that knowledge through the methods of science.

Ethics

It is wrong to torture infants for pleasure. The truth of this statement is utterly reliable and timothya knows this even if he refuses to admit it. Neither he nor I arrived at our utterly certain knowledge of the truth of this statement through scientific means.

I could go on, but I think the point is clear enough by now. Science is amazingly successful within its sphere. But the truth uncovered by science reveals only a portion of the truth that is out there, and the claims of the “universal competence” of science are wild exagerations pushed by scientists who want  to be high priests of a secular church.

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Kantian Rationalist posted this:
Timothya, if you want a reference that critically examines this distinction between “operational science” and “historical science” that creationists insist upon, try here.
Why are we arguing about this? I don't believe there is any useful distinction between the two forms of enquiry. Both require the same criteria for acceptance of evidence. The distinction is one invented by supernaturalists only for the purpose of justifying their a priori (!!) belief in an anthropomorphic universe.timothya
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Kantian Rationalist posted this:
I see nothing wrong about “non-explanatory knowledge”
I am sorry, but I have no idea what this category means. Can you provide a valuable example of non-explanatory knowledge? What could I do with such a thing?timothya
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JDH posted this:
I appreciate the post, but I also think timothya is an immature thinker, and will come to regret the absolutism of his statements as he ages. To have one timothya is not that bad. The real problem is that I think the current university system – with its dismissal of all religion as poppycock ( thus neglecting much wisdom ) , its political correct straight jacket ( thus choosing to subscribe to only non-offensive truth ), and its political correct agenda push ( thus promoting to important ideas which are of no consequence ) we are seeing a continual production of more timothya’s. What a sad state of affairs.
Sheesh mate, all I did was ask a question. If you want absolutism, go talk to the religious. The current university system dismisses religion as poppycock? Ummm, how does that square with the Departments of Divinity (and seminary training schools) strewn about the academic world, or the persistent arguments by academics (of all disciplines) that they are happy to continue to be observant religious believers while accepting the objective evidence of evolution, old earth geology, etc etc. The Closed Shop only exists in your mind.timothya
December 11, 2012
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Timothya, if you want a reference that critically examines this distinction between "operational science" and "historical science" that creationists insist upon, try here.Kantian Naturalist
December 11, 2012
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If “nothing else explains anything”, then what are “the other kinds of knowledge”?
I see nothing wrong about "non-explanatory knowledge," if that's what you're getting at. A geometrical proof is certainly a kind of knowledge, but it doesn't explain anything about the world. (Though it can be used in constructing explanations, it doesn't constitute an explanation about the world all by itself.) Likewise, a conceptual explication, such as (to use the old Aristotelian motif) "a normal mature human being is a rational animal" explicates the meanings of our concepts, but tells us nothing about the world, and so doesn't explain anything -- and yet it counts as a kind of knowledge. Parallel cases can be drawn from formal logic and from ethics, but I trust the basic idea is relatively clear. I should add, maybe, just to forestall certain misunderstandings, that I don't think that these principles just tell us how to apply them to real-world situations. And I don't think that these principles refer to transcendent, Platonic or quasi-Platonic entities. Rather, I do think that they play a fundamental role in structuring our knowledge about the world, in various domains of inquiry (ethical, logical, mathematical, empirical, artistic, and so on). So although there is much to be said about the structure and content of empirical knowledge, I don't think it's the only kind of knowledge worth talking about. Though I am willing to restrict use of the term "explanation" for a kind or class of empirical knowledge, namely, empirical knowledge in which a model or construction of the relevant causes shows why the observed regularities hold, to the extent that they do.Kantian Naturalist
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tjguy posted this:
Science is not the only avenue of knowledge. Think about trying to solve a murder. We look for clues that might help us solve it. We can use science to help find the clues but the science can only give us clues, evidence that we must then fit together to try and figure out what happened.
Don't you see the contradiction in your argument? If "clues" are essential to solving murders, and you rely on science to provide the clues, what other knowledge do you use? Do you have some other source of knowledge (other than clues provided by science) to solve murders? What is this knowledge? I will restrain myself from suggesting alternative sources.timothya
December 10, 2012
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Kantian Rationalist posted this:
As I put it in another thread, science can’t explain everything, but nothing else explains anything.
And then later in the same post:
My charitable interpretation is that philosophers and scientists find themselves on the slippery slope from weak scientism to strong scientism because of a failure of imagination: they fail to realize that there are other kinds of knowledge besides empirical knowledge.
Ummm, well what is it? If "nothing else explains anything", then what are "the other kinds of knowledge"?timothya
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Barry Arrington posted a great deal, so one by one:
The law of non-contradiction cannot be proven or disproven experimentally. It is known a priori.
For any given logical system taken as an isolated mental program, this is true. However, the moment one applies the a priori axioms of the logical system to a problem in the material world, the results do become subject to experimental knowledge. That is to say, "knowledge" based on the logical schema needs to account for the reliability of the specific premises being reasoned upon. Which then becomes a scientific question. Of course, if you wish to cleave to a Platonic view of logical categories, this would be unconvincing.
Like the axioms of logic, mathematics is known a priori.
Same problem again. It is not the logical or numerical relations accepted a priori into a mathematical schema that is a problem (anyone can enjoy mental number games). The problem lies when the schema has to be applied to a question arising in the real world. At which point the reliability of the measures used need scientific verification.
For example, scientists assume (they do not know) that scientific laws (e.g., gravity) operate the same way in the furthest reaches of the universe as they do here on earth. Obviously, there is no way to confirm this assumption experimentally and it will forever remain an assumption, not an experimentally verified fact.
Frankly this one is farcical. Surely you are familiar enough with the methods of science to know that scientists do not "assume" the universal regularities of nature. They provisionally accept the regularities based on the available evidence. When and if evidence turns up to disrupt the apparent regularity, science responds by changing its view. Call this an assumption if you wish, but it is not so.
I love my wife. My knowledge of my love for my wife is completely reliable; yet I did not arrive at that knowledge through the methods of science.
Without a precise definition of the term "love", it is impossible to know what this statement means, other than "I have a feeling in my water". To repeat an old saw, it is impossible to reason about poorly formed concepts. Good luck with that one.
It is wrong to torture infants for pleasure. The truth of this statement is utterly reliable and timothya knows this even if he refuses to admit it.
You could at least avoid telling lies about me. Refer to another thread on this blog where I gave an unequivocal answer to the question. Bad, Barry, bad. Even so, my questions concerning the postulate are these: 1. Is there some point of human development where torture does become permissible (adult terrorists? juvenile terrorists? child soldiers with WMDs in their hands?). Please note that I am not accusing you of necessarily holding that it is permissible to torture a non-infant "for pleasure". I am simply pointing out that use of the term is tendentious in the absence of more complete understanding of what you mean by "torture" and "infant". Recall, for example, that infant laughter as a result of tickling is interpreted currently as a sublimated fear response on the part of the ticklee. 2. Certain Christian denominations refuse particular kinds of medical treatment as contravening Biblical teaching. If this refusal applies to a child (when the treatment would cure or alleviate the child's condition), is this torture of infants? If the refusal is to be condemned universally, on what basis to you form this knowledge? (It can't be the Bible, since the contravening denomination uses the same source of knowledge as you do, but arrives at a contradictory conclusion).
I could go on, but I think the point is clear enough by now. Science is amazingly successful within its sphere. But the truth uncovered by science reveals only a portion of the truth that is out there, and the claims of the “universal competence” of science are wild exagerations pushed by scientists who want to be high priests of a secular church.
The last pontiff who applied the "thus far and no farther" argument on science came off second best. The difference between then and now is that you have to provide evidence (!!) that science has to keep off the epistemological grass. The rack and the thumbscrew are no longer theological arguments. As a general comment, I regard the idea that science can or will ever be able to explain "everything" as blatant stupidity. The only worse idea is that it cannot be permitted to try.timothya
December 10, 2012
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???? thought out post. Creationists are constantly trying to make this point the difference between science that we do in the lab where we do experiments over and over and verify the results conclusively and "historical science" which cannot be observed, repeated, or verified. Science is not the only avenue of knowledge. Think about trying to solve a murder. We look for clues that might help us solve it. We can use science to help find the clues but the science can only give us clues, evidence that we must then fit together to try and figure out what happened. Now if we have a reliable eye-witness, this is even better. But even with a lot of clues, it is conceivable that one could come up with a variety of scenarios to explain what we have found. Even if one particular explanation makes the most sense, it may not necessarily be right. I'm sure that there have been cases where people have been unjustly convicted because the story was found to be the most plausible. Their excuse sounded too wild to believe and yet it might have been true. When investigating the past, we just can never be sure that we have made the right conclusion. It is different that scientific "proof" that we come up with doing experiments that can be validated over and over again. Plus, you never know, there might be some information that we are missing or overlooking which might skew our interpretation of the evidence. So, when dealing with the past, we just cannot be anywhere near as sure about our results/conclusions/interpretations as we can about science that we can verify over and over again. Besides, the fact that "science is the only source of true knowledge" did not come from some sort of scientific experiment which would seem to invalidate that claim. Here is a brief review by Royal Truman of A Review of The Wedge of Truth: Splitting the Foundations of Naturalism by Phillip E. Johnson Intervarsity Press Illinois, 2000. Chapter 1 is specifically relevant to the discussion here. Here is the link: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/tj/v15/n1/materialisttjguy
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A few minor points in response to the Craig-Atkins clip: (1) Craig is correct to point out that Atkins commits the genetic fallacy. However, it would not be a fallacy to claim -- as Atkins does not, but as more sophisticated naturalists have -- that a causal explanation of the origins of a belief bear on how well justified that belief is. (2) The genetic fallacy also bears directly on the claim that modern science only makes sense if we presuppose Christian theism. From the fact that the origins of science depended upon Christian culture, it would be a fallacy to conclude that the truth or justification of science depends on that culture. (3) There's no obvious move from a priori knowledge to theism. It all depends on what the theory of a priori knowledge is. There's a range of views about a priori knowledge perfectly consistent with metaphysical naturalism, e.g. thinking of a priori judgments as expressing the constitutive rules of a particular language-game. Then the judgments are necessary "internal" to the game, so to speak, but there's nothing necessary about the fact that we play that language-game. If you want to claim that a priori knowledge shows that God must exist, go ahead and make the argument, but it depends on how the details of the theory of a priority get cashed out -- it's not a move one just gets to make for free.Kantian Naturalist
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Though empirical science certainly has its limits, and perhaps the most important knowledge, such as 'I Love my wife", is forever beyond the scope of empirical science, I feel that empirical evidence is very important to these questions of origins, especially where different metaphysical hypothesis are concerned. Different metaphysical hypothesis make specific different claims/predictions about what state we should find reality in and these specific claims/predictions can be tested against one another, against the evidence we have found, to see which hypothesis has come out on top. Multiple Competing Worldviews - Stephen Meyer on John Ankerberg - video - November 4, 2011 (registration required) http://www.lightsource.com/ministry/ankerberg-show/player/discovery-four-the-complexity-and-design-of-the-human-cell-222384.html For instance materialism, the main philosophy undergirding neo-Darwinian evolution and even Hawking and Krauss's cosmology, has made some very specific claims about reality that have directly contradicted theistic claims for reality. These claims can be compared to the empirical evidence we now have in hand to see which hypothesis is closer to the truth. For instance: Materialism predicted an eternal universe, Theism predicted a created universe. - Big Bang points to a creation event. - Materialism predicted at the base of physical reality would be a solid indestructible material particle which rigidly obeyed the rules of time and space, Theism predicted the basis of this reality was created by a infinitely powerful and transcendent Being who is not limited by time and space - Quantum mechanics reveals a wave/particle duality for the basis of our reality which blatantly defies our concepts of time and space. - Materialism predicted that consciousness is a 'emergent property' of material reality and thus has no particular special position within material reality. Theism predicted consciousness preceded material reality and therefore consciousness should have a 'special' position within material reality. Quantum Mechanics reveals that consciousness has a special, even central, position within material reality. - Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe, Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time - Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 - 2 Timothy 1:9) - Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind - Every transcendent universal constant scientists can measure is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. - Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe - Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe. - Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made - ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a "biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.". - Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the amazing diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth - The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is very seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) - Materialism predicted a very simple first life form which accidentally came from "a warm little pond". Theism predicted God created life - The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) - Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11) - We find evidence for complex photo-synthetic life in the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth (3.8 bya)- Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life to be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse life to appear abruptly in the seas in God's fifth day of creation. - The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short "geologic resolution time" in the Cambrian seas. - Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record - Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record, then rapid diversity within the group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. - Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth - Man himself is the last generally accepted major, and distinct, fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. - ''''''''''''' For me, when considering the state of evidence that modern science has revealed to us, the correct hypothesis between the two is not even close. Theism provides, by far, the most coherent view of reality!bornagain77
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Sorry, most excellent bevets, master of the rare and exceptional quote!kairosfocus
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Mr Arrington, excellent as usual. And BA's vid is a treat. It is sad that we have become so lost epistemologically that we are often led to think in the ways corrected. KFkairosfocus
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I appreciate the post, but I also think timothya is an immature thinker, and will come to regret the absolutism of his statements as he ages. To have one timothya is not that bad. The real problem is that I think the current university system - with its dismissal of all religion as poppycock ( thus neglecting much wisdom ) , its political correct straight jacket ( thus choosing to subscribe to only non-offensive truth ), and its political correct agenda push ( thus promoting to important ideas which are of no consequence ) we are seeing a continual production of more timothya's. What a sad state of affairs.JDH
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Thank you Axel.Barry Arrington
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Both beautifully lucid and wry, Barry. I love to have my sometimes jumbled thoughts neatly laid out.Axel
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haha. thanks bevets!Mung
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William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkinsbevets
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"they fail to realize that there are other kinds of knowledge besides empirical knowledge." Once again kantian I find it very peculiar that you would lecture anyone on 'science' since you have no empirical basis to show your non-reductive naturalism conforms to reality.bornagain77
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Barry’s examples are good ones for explicating the concept of “science” more carefully.
(1) The principles and methods of logic (2) The principles and methods of mathematics (3) The principles that undergird science (which, of course, cannot be proven scientifically) (4) I love my wife. (5) It is wrong to torture infants for pleasure.
(1)-(3) are not ‘scientific’ because they are a priori rather than a posteriori, that is, justified by reason alone rather than justified by (empirical) evidence. (4) is not ‘scientific’ because it’s a first-person report on one’s own psychological states rather than a third-person claim about how things are in the world. (5) is not ‘scientific’ because it’s a prescriptive claim about what one ought not to do, rather than a descriptive claim about what is the case. So, taking (1)-(5) together, we can say that science is a kind of knowledge that is empirical (not a priori), available from the third-person perspective (not the first-person), and descriptive (not prescriptive). This allows us to reformulate timoytha’s
Can anyone provide a brief synopsis of a reliable way of knowing that is founded on a method other than science?
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Is there a more reliable way to arrive at empirically-grounded descriptive claims about the world than science?
And to that, it seems to me that the answer is “no”, because the results of scientific inquiry are a class of empirically-grounded descriptive claims about the world. Put otherwise, science is a sophisticated extension of common-sense, trial-and-error reasoning. As I put it in another thread, science can’t explain everything, but nothing else explains anything. That is to be construed as a gloss on how limited explanations are, in contrast with other cognitive practices, such as (but not limited to) conceptual explications, normative justifications (both epistemic and ethical), aesthetic creations, and political critique. So, what is “scientism”? I can think of one important distinction: Weak scientism says that scientific practices yield more reliable explanations of the world than do other methods for generating empirical knowledge. Strong scientism says that scientific explanations are more important than, or have priority over, other cognitive practices, such as justifications or explications or whatever. Another way of perhaps putting the point would be to say that strong scientism denies that justifications or explications count as knowledge at all: that there are no ethical facts or normative facts, or that there is no a priori knowledge. My charitable interpretation is that philosophers and scientists find themselves on the slippery slope from weak scientism to strong scientism because of a failure of imagination: they fail to realize that there are other kinds of knowledge besides empirical knowledge. (Why they fail to realize this is an interesting psychological question.)Kantian Naturalist
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