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Here are two mathematical problems for you to work on in your spare time, and one problem from biology:

  1. Find positive integers x,y, z and n>2, such that xn+yn=zn.
  2. Remove two diagonally opposite corner squares from a chess board, and cover the remaining 62 squares with 31 dominoes, each of which covers two adjacent squares.
  3. Explain how life could have originated and evolved into intelligent humans, through entirely natural (unintelligent) processes.

You can spend a lot of time trying different solutions to mathematical problem #1. After a while you might begin to wonder if it can be done, but don’t give up, there are an infinite number of integers you can try for x,y,z and n.

For problem #2, get out your chess board and some dominoes, cut out two diagonally opposite corner squares, and start covering. If your first try doesn’t work, keep working, there are a huge number of ways you can lay out the dominoes.

A number of theories as to how life could have originated through entirely unintelligent processes have been proposed, but none are plausible, and this problem is generally considered to have not yet been solved. But new theories are constantly being proposed, and it would be unscientific to give up and declare the problem to be unsolvable…wouldn’t it? Charles Darwin felt he had explained how intelligent humans evolved from the first living organisms though entirely unintelligent processes. Today his theory is doubted by an increasing number of scientists, and most of those who still support it would probably agree with microbiologist Rene Dubos that “its real strength is that however implausible it may appear to its opponents, they do not have a more plausible one to offer in its place” [The Torch of Life, 1962]. Most of these doubters have proposed modifications to his theory or alternative theories of their own, but there are always serious problems with the alternative theories too. However, scientists should never give up, even if none of the theories proposed so far are plausible…right? French biologist Jean Rostand [A Biologist’s View, 1956] says “However obscure the causes of evolution appear to me to be, I do not doubt for a moment that they are entirely natural. We have ample time to discover them; biology is in its infancy.”

Well, mathematicians sometimes do give up, after we have proved a problem to be impossible to solve. How can you prove a problem is impossible to solve, if you can’t examine every possible solution? Often you say, assume there is a solution, then using that assumption you prove something that is obviously false, or known to be false. Pierre de Fermat claimed in 1637 to have a simple proof that problem #1 has no solution, but the proof was “too large to fit in the margin” of a document he was working with. Did Fermat really have a short, correct proof? Not likely, because no one else could find a rigorous proof until 358 years later, when Andrew Wiles produced a very long, complicated proof of Fermat’s last theorem. Whether or not Fermat’s short proof was valid may never be known, but at least his conclusion was correct.

After trying a long while, you may get the idea that mathematical problem #2 is also impossible to solve, but if you try to prove it is impossible, you may start to think that this one may also take years to prove impossible. But in mathematics, you can often prove an apparently difficult theorem in a surprisingly simple way once you look at it from the right perspective. For this problem, all you have to do is notice that each domino will cover one black and one red square, so if you could solve the problem, you would have to conclude that the board consists of the same number (31) of black and red squares. But this conclusion is false: the original chessboard had an equal number of red and black squares, but the diagonally opposite corners you removed were the same color!

Well, I have a very simple proof that the biological problem #3 posed above is also impossible to solve, that does fit in the margin of this document. All one needs to do is realize that if a solution were found, we would have proved something obviously false, that a few (four, apparently) fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics alone could have rearranged the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones.

Is this really a valid proof? It seems perfectly valid to me, as I cannot think of anything in all of science that can be stated with more confidence than that a few unintelligent forces of physics alone could not have rearranged the basic particles of physics into Apple iPhones. Unfortunately, most biologists and other scientists don’t seem to be impressed by such simple proofs; they don’t believe it is possible to refute all their solutions to problem #3 without looking at the details of each.

For the first mathematical problem, it didn’t take too many years of failed attempts before mathematicians realized their time was better spent proving this problem unsolvable than continuing with attempts to solve it. Maybe after another 358 years of failed attempts to solve problem #3, someone will finally produce a proof that convinces even biologists that they didn’t fail because they just never hit on the right solution, but because the problem doesn’t have a solution.

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Bornagain77: JVL claims that “he reduces a complicated and lengthy argument based on multiple threads of evidence” Yup, and you seemed to have stopped arguing that he didn't do that or that he provided a real 'proof'. Thanks. Looks I made my point.JVL
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JVL:
It is because he reduces a complicated and lengthy argument based on multiple threads of evidence down to a pithy, brief statement which doesn’t acknowledge any of the evidence, arguments or research.
All the research supports the claim that nature didn't do it. All of the evidence supports the claim that nature didn't do it. The argument is complicated and lengthy only because it is filled with BS, lies and promissory notes.ET
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JVL claims that "he reduces a complicated and lengthy argument based on multiple threads of evidence",, LOL, here is that claim for "multiple threads of evidence" again. Funny how that scientific evidence for Darwinian claims never seems to actually materialize when push comes to shove! i.e. to repeat, please provide a single counter example of unguided materialistic processes producing a single code. There is a 10 million dollar prize awaiting the first person to prove that unintelligent processes are capable of doing what only intelligence has ever been observed doing.
An incentive prize ten times the size of the Nobel – believed to be the largest single award ever in basic science – is being offered to the person or team solving the largest mystery in history: how genetic code inside cells got there, and how cells intentionally self-organize, communicate, then purposely adapt. This $10 million challenge, the Evolution 2.0 Prize can be found at http://www.evo2.org. — https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/evolution-2-0-prize-unprecedented-10-million-offered-to-replicate-cellular-evolution-875038146.html
bornagain77
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ET: You can’t even follow your own statements: “…he did not make any kind of mathematical statement.” Clearly you thought his third point was supposed to be mathematical. No, I said that just to note that he didn't use his expertise and background. Why are you so completely antagonistic all the time? If he had chosen to make a mathematical argument then I would have given him some credit for supporting his argument. But he didn't. He didn't support his 'proof' at all, he just asserted it. Your position has the stupidest arguments possible. Look, my point was Dr Sewell attacked a straw man version of the lengthy, complicated, involved unguided evolutionary theory and its support by reducing it to a silly statement which did not even acknowledge the evidence, the arguments or the research. Why? Because he wants people to dismiss it out of hand instead of engaging with the reasoning. And for someone as educated and as intelligent as he clearly is I find that very sad indeed. And what he is talking about is the total lack of a real argument from your side. Uh huh. Why didn't he support his 'proof' with more intelligent reasoning? Ask yourself that.JVL
February 10, 2021
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Bornagain77: JVL, it is not a ‘straw man’ argument. Darwinists do indeed hold to the reductive materialistic framework. It is because he reduces a complicated and lengthy argument based on multiple threads of evidence down to a pithy, brief statement which doesn't acknowledge any of the evidence, arguments or research. And why does he do that? To make the stance appear completely stupid. That's making a straw man rebuttal. And coming from a highly intelligent and educated individual I think that's sad. I guess you agree with me that he didn't really make a 'proof' then.JVL
February 10, 2021
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Also Dr Sewell did NOT say the the 3rd problem pertained to mathematics. Learn how to read. All he said was it is an unsolvable problem. JVL:
I didn’t say it did did I? Why don’t you learn to read what people actually write?
You can't even follow your own statements: "...he did not make any kind of mathematical statement." Clearly you thought his third point was supposed to be mathematical.ET
February 10, 2021
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JVL:
It’s a straw man because it pretends to repeat an argument but in the stupidest way possible. It’s not what’s being researched so it’s not a fair representation of the work.
Your position has the stupidest arguments possible.
What I am talking about is the lack of real argument on Dr Sewell’s part.
And what he is talking about is the total lack of a real argument from your side.ET
February 10, 2021
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Bob, whatever, you can play your games elsewhere if you want to have the admin decide what you meant. I'm OK with that if you are.bornagain77
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seversky:
I am a naturalist/materialist and I know of no well-supported, well-established nat/mat explanation for the origin of the Universe or the origins of life. There is speculation, hypotheses, even mathematical models but the honest – and unsatisfactory – answer is that we just don’t know. They are both open questions.
Wrong. Everything that we do know says materialism is total nonsense.ET
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ba77 @ 29 - eh? What ad hominen? I explicitly stated "[i]t’s not safe to assume my opinion on that, either." Please, actually read what I write before commenting.Bob O'H
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In his book, The Blind Watchmaker, Richard Dawkins tried to argue that biology was “the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” Notice that to explain away design he has to concede that there is the appearance or intuition of design. But is it merely just all appearance-- just an illusion? How does he know that? Or is it just what he believes? Science itself rests on a number of empirically unprovable or metaphysical (philosophical) assumptions. For example:
That we exist in a real special-temporal world-- that the world (the cosmos) is not an illusion and we are not “brains in a vat” in some kind of Matrix like virtual reality. Or, like Descartes suggested we're unembodied spirit minds who are being deceived by an unembodied demon so that we have bodies and are living in a physical world. That the laws of nature are universal throughout space and time. Or that there are really causal connections between things and things or people and things etc. David Hume famously argued that that wasn’t self-evidently true. Indeed, in some cases it isn’t. Sometimes there is correlation without causation or “just coincidence.”
Again, notice the logic Dawkins wants us to accept. He wants us to implicitly accept his premise that that living things only have the appearance of being designed. But how do we know that premise is true? Is it self-evidently true? I think not. Why can’t it be true that living things appear to be designed for a purpose because they really have been designed for a purpose? Is that logically impossible? Metaphysically impossible? Scientifically impossible? If one cannot answer those questions then design cannot be eliminated from consideration or the discussion. Therefore, it is a legitimate inference from the empirical (scientific) evidence. I have said this here before, the burden of proof is on those who believe that some mindless, purposeless process can “create” a planned and purposeful (teleological) self-replicating system capable of evolving further through purposeless mindless process (at least until it “creates” something purposeful, because, according to Dawkins, living things appear to be purposeful.) Frankly, this is something our regular interlocutors consistently and persistently fail to do. As a theist I do not claim I can prove (at least in an absolute sense) that my world view is true. Can naturalists/ materialists prove that their world view is true? Personally I believe that all worldviews rest on unprovable assumptions. No one can prove that their world view is true. Is that true of naturalism/ materialism? If it can someone with that world view needs to step forward and provide the proof.john_a_designer
February 10, 2021
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JVL, it is not a 'straw man' argument. Darwinists do indeed hold to the reductive materialistic framework. It is their argument not his! Dr. Sewell merely draws their reductive materialistic argument out to its logical conclusion and exposes it in its full blown absurdity for all to see. i.e. Libraries full of books etc,, etc,, should be fully explicable to reductive materialistic explanations if atheistic naturalism were actually true. Of related note is Paul Nelson's article on SETI
Do You Like SETI? Fine, Then Let’s Dump Methodological Naturalism Paul Nelson - September 24, 2014 Excerpt: Assessing the Damage MN Does to Freedom of Inquiry Epistemology — how we know — and ontology — what exists — are both affected by methodological naturalism. If we say, "We cannot know that a mind caused x," laying down an epistemological boundary defined by MN, then our ontology comprising real causes for x won’t include minds. MN entails an ontology in which minds are the consequence of physics, and thus, can only be placeholders for a more detailed causal account in which physics is the only (ultimate) actor. You didn’t write your email to me. Physics did, and informed you of that event after the fact. "That’s crazy," you reply, "I certainly did write my email." Okay, then — to what does the pronoun "I" in that sentence refer? Your personal agency; your mind. Are you supernatural?,,, You are certainly an intelligent cause, however, and your intelligence does not collapse into physics. (If it does collapse — i.e., can be reduced without explanatory loss — we haven’t the faintest idea how, which amounts to the same thing.) To explain the effects you bring about in the world — such as your email, a real pattern — we must refer to you as a unique agent.,,, ,,,some feature of "intelligence" must be irreducible to physics, because otherwise we’re back to physics versus physics, and there’s nothing for SETI to look for.,,,, https://evolutionnews.org/2014/09/do_you_like_set/
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February 10, 2021
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Bob states, "I also didn’t comment on whether you are a total idiot." And there you go, when you have to defend a completely indefensible position, just use ad hominem. But then again, ad hominem, i.e. attacking the man instead of addressing the argument., will tend to get you banned from UD.bornagain77
February 10, 2021
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Bornagain77: JVL, so you don’t have to provide any proof for your position but you can criticize Dr. Sewell for his supposed lack of evidence? You're really having problems grasping what I'm saying: I'm critiquing Dr Sewell's poorly supported straw man attack. I'm NOT arguing against his position; I'm only saying he made his case badly against a false version of the opposition. If you read a testimony by someone who said they believe in Jesus because they saw a picture of him on their morning toast you might very well be critical of their reason without disagreeing with their conclusion. And you see no problem with that? There is no problem because I am CLEARLY not doing what you seem to want me to do. The point you are trying to make, whatever point that may be other than being nonsensical, seems rather vacuous if you don’t ever provide evidence for your position. I'm not arguing my position, I'm saying Dr Sewell supported his position poorly in this post AND he attacked a straw man version of the 'opposition'. I think Dr. Sewell’s example is crystal clear and beautiful. And gets the sheer absurdity of atheistic naturalism across quite clearly! Do you think it's a 'proof'? His word. Do you think he provided enough supporting evidence or arguments for his 'proof'? Let me put it another way: if you were trying to convince a dyed-in-the-wool materialist of the correctness of your view would you use Dr Sewell's 'proof' alone with the evidence presented in this post only?JVL
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ba77 @ 19 -
Bob, if you are not saying that his general observation is wrong, then is it safe to assume that you agree with his general observation that a few (four, apparently) fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics are incapable of rearranging the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones?
No, I wasn1't commenting either way. I also didn't comment on whether you are a total idiot. It's not safe to assume my opinion on that, either.Bob O'H
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John_a_designer/25
If you are a naturalist/materialist and you can’t explain that– where the first “natural” self-replicating machines came from– then all bets are off and ID wins– game, set, match!
I am a naturalist/materialist and I know of no well-supported, well-established nat/mat explanation for the origin of the Universe or the origins of life. There is speculation, hypotheses, even mathematical models but the honest - and unsatisfactory - answer is that we just don't know. They are both open questions. Does our ignorance at this point in time mean that there are no nat/mat explanations? No, of course not. We are not omniscient. There is a whole lot we don't know. And, when we say we don't know, it means that we don't know. It doesn't mean ID/creationism wins by default. It can't be ruled out but it is far from being a credible or coherent explanation,Seversky
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Here is something I have written about before:
The origin of life is like the origin of the universe. It appears to be a singular, non-repeating, highly improbable event which occurred very early in earth’s history. Furthermore all the clues of how and why it occurred have been lost. But then added to that problem are other problems: how does chemistry create code? What is required to create an autonomously self-replicating system which has the possibility of evolving into something more complex? The naturalist/ materialist then compounds the problem by demanding a priori that the origin of life must be completely natural-- undirected without an intelligent plan or purpose. That seems like it was a miracle… Well, maybe it was. But a completely “naturalistic miracle” seems to be an absurd self-defeating claim for the naturalist/materialist to make. One of my pipe dreams as a real life (now retired) machine designer is to design a self-replicating machine or automata-- the kind that was first envisioned by mathematician John von Neumann. My vision is not a machine that could replicate itself from already existing “off the shelf” parts but a machine-- well actually machines-- which could replicate themselves from raw materials they would find on a rocky planet in some distant star system. One practical advantage of such machines is they could be sent out in advance some far-in-the-distant-future expedition to terraform a suitable planet in another star system preparing it for colonist who might arrive centuries or millennia later. By analogy, that is what the first living cells which originated on the early earth had to do. Even the simplest prokaryote cell is on the sub-cellular level a collection of machines networked together to replicate the whole system. To suggest that somehow the first cell emerged by some fortuitous accident is betray an ignorance how really complex primitive cells are. Try thinking this through on a more macro level, as I have described above, and I think you will begin to appreciate how really daunting the problem is.
If you are a naturalist/materialist and you can’t explain that-- where the first “natural” self-replicating machines came from-- then all bets are off and ID wins-- game, set, match!john_a_designer
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JVL, so you don't have to provide any proof for your position but you can criticize Dr. Sewell for his supposed lack of evidence? And you see no problem with that? The point you are trying to make, whatever point that may be other than being nonsensical, seems rather vacuous if you don't ever provide evidence for your position. I think Dr. Sewell's example is crystal clear and beautiful. And gets the sheer absurdity of atheistic naturalism across quite clearly!bornagain77
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Bornagain77: So are you saying that you do have evidence that the laws of physics are sufficient, (in and of themselves with no intelligence allowed whatsoever), to explain the origin and development of life on Earth? At the moment all I am doing is critiquing Dr Sewell's argument, or lack thereof. I find it sad that a highly educated and intelligent person such as him can't come up with a better 'proof' (his word not mine) than what he offers. And that he is railing against a false version of unguided evolutionary theory. That's it. You don’t seem to understand the premises of the supposedly scientific worldview of atheistic naturalism that dominates our American universities today. That's not the topic I was discussing or the point I was trying to make. Are you beginning to get a clue just absurd the worldview of atheistic naturalism actually is? Again, that's not the topic I was discussing or the point I was trying to make. If you want to have an argument about that stuff then fine. But that's not what I was trying to do. Do you think Dr Sewell is arguing against a straw man version of the unguided evolutionary view? Yes or no? Do you think, in this article, Dr Sewell adequately defended his view that if a solution for his problem 3 were found that that would prove something false (his words)? Do you think Dr Sewell has presented a 'proof'? He says he has, is it a proof or not?JVL
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"I’m saying he had no support for his assertion that the basic laws of physics are insufficient to explain the origin and development of life on Earth.",,, So are you saying that you do have evidence that the laws of physics are sufficient, (in and of themselves with no intelligence allowed whatsoever), to explain the origin and development of life on Earth? And hence thereafter to be able to explain via a few (four, apparently) fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics the rearranging of the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones? You don't seem to understand the premises of the supposedly scientific worldview of atheistic naturalism that dominates our American universities today. To supposedly be scientific today, you've got to get from point A, (i.e. the laws of physics and the fundamental particles), to point B, (i.e. libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones,). Again, In order to supposedly stay scientific today, in today's American universities, an appeal to an Immaterial intelligent Mind at any point along the way from point A to point B is simply forbidden as an explanation. Are you beginning to get a clue just absurd the worldview of atheistic naturalism actually is?bornagain77
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Bornagain77: Are you saying the laws of physics are not up to the task of rearranging the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones? Why do you consistently assume I'm arguing a point that I'm not? You seem to have this weird view on the world in that you think you know what point people are making so you don't even bother to actually read what they've written. I'm saying Dr Sewell did not represent the actual OoL research and hypotheses fairly at all; he used a straw man version. AND I'm saying he had no support for his assertion that the basic laws of physics are insufficient to explain the origin and development of life on Earth. He argued against something that no one is claiming AND he didn't bother to support his own assertion. Why should anyone take his statement seriously when he can't even address the issues fairly and thoroughly? Just like he would not take an uneducated and biased statement about numerical methods for PDEs seriously. Nor should he.JVL
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ET: Oh my. What Dr. Sewell said is supported by the total lack of evidence to the contrary. You called his argument a straw man but failed to support that claim. It's a straw man because it pretends to repeat an argument but in the stupidest way possible. It's not what's being researched so it's not a fair representation of the work. Get over it. There isn’t any evidence that nature can produce coded information processing systems. You have nothing. Not the point that I was trying to make. JVL is confused. There isn’t any substance to origin of life research. There isn’t anything to respond to. Imagination is not science. Again, not the issue being discussed. What I am talking about is the lack of real argument on Dr Sewell's part. Also Dr Sewell did NOT say the the 3rd problem pertained to mathematics. Learn how to read. All he said was it is an unsolvable problem. I didn't say it did did I? Why don't you learn to read what people actually write? Dr Sewell did NOT say the OoL was mathematics. And there isn’t anything in physics nor chemistry that says nature can produce coded information processing systems. There isn’t any knowledge that says nature is capable. All of our knowledge says it takes an intelligent agency to produce a coded information processing system. So it goes against science to say that nature did it. None of which I brought up or said or claimed. You should talk to Bornagain77 about whether or not the question of OoL is mathematical; you two clearly disagree.JVL
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Bob, if you are not saying that his general observation is wrong, then is it safe to assume that you agree with his general observation that a few (four, apparently) fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics are incapable of rearranging the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones? Of note from George Ellis:
Recognising Top-Down Causation - George Ellis Excerpt: Causation: The nature of causation is highly contested territory, and I will take a pragmatic view: Definition 1: Causal Effect If making a change in a quantity X results in a reliable demonstrable change in a quantity Y in a given context, then X has a causal effect on Y.?Example: I press the key labelled “A” on my computer keyboard; the letter “A” appears on my computer screen.,,, Definition 2: Existence If Y is a physical entity made up of ordinary matter, and X is some kind of entity that has a demonstrable causal effect on Y as per Definition 1, then we must acknowledge that X also exists (even if it is not made up of such matter). This is clearly a sensible and testable criterion; in the example above, it leads to the conclusion that both the data and the relevant software exist. If we do not adopt this definition, we will have instances of uncaused changes in the world; I presume we wish to avoid that situation.,,, ,,, The mind is not a physical entity, but it certainly is causally effective: proof is the existence of the computer on which you are reading this text. It could not exist if it had not been designed and manufactured according to someone’s plans, thereby proving the causal efficacy of thoughts, which like computer programs and data are not physical entities. http://fqxi.org/data/essay-contest-files/Ellis_FQXI_Essay_Ellis_2012.pdf
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February 9, 2021
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ET(17), yes materialists readily admit that the universe has finely tuned conditions that are required for life. They offer speculative, unconvincing explanations for this, including the multiverse, quantum many-worlds, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_universeMikeW
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MikeW- do you have any reference to what you say materialists claim?ET
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Dr Sewell did NOT say the OoL was mathematics. And there isn't anything in physics nor chemistry that says nature can produce coded information processing systems. There isn't any knowledge that says nature is capable. All of our knowledge says it takes an intelligent agency to produce a coded information processing system. So it goes against science to say that nature did it.ET
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ba77 - please learn how to read what people write. I wasn't actually commenting on that.Bob O'H
February 9, 2021
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So Bob, are you saying that Dr. Sewell's general observation is incorrect? i.e. that a few (four, apparently) fundamental, unintelligent forces of physics are incapable of rearranging the fundamental particles of physics into libraries full of science texts and encyclopedias, computers connected to monitors, keyboards, laser printers and the Internet, cars, trucks, airplanes, nuclear power plants and Apple iPhones? If so, please provide a single counter example of unguided materialistic processes producing a single code. There is a 10 million dollar prize awaiting the first person to prove that unintelligent processes are capable of doing what only intelligence has ever been observed doing.
An incentive prize ten times the size of the Nobel – believed to be the largest single award ever in basic science – is being offered to the person or team solving the largest mystery in history: how genetic code inside cells got there, and how cells intentionally self-organize, communicate, then purposely adapt. This $10 million challenge, the Evolution 2.0 Prize can be found at www.evo2.org. --- https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/evolution-2-0-prize-unprecedented-10-million-offered-to-replicate-cellular-evolution-875038146.html
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Sewell misrepresents the materialists' view on the origin of life. Materialists do not believe that life originated solely from the four fundamental forces of physics acting on the fundamental particles of physics. They also believe that the initial conditions of the universe played a role. And they may be right. There isn't any current scientific evidence on whether the information required for life was embedded in the initial conditions, or if the information was injected into the universe at a later date. (The difference between materialists and creationists is the Source of the information.)MikeW
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Since mathematics is integral to all fields of science that consider themselves to be rigorously established sciences, (i.e. Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, etc..,,,,) then why shouldn’t Dr. Sewell, a professor of mathematics, be able to comment on OOL research and Darwinism in general?
The snarky answer is because he's a mathematician, not a physicist. The more serious answer is that OoL is much more than just mathematics, it's also chemistry and physics (and, at some point, biology). So there is a large body of non-mathematical knowledge that someone would need to learn before being able to make informed comments on the subject.Bob O'H
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