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The Governor of Virginia: Killing Babies is OK by Me

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Yesterday two stories out of Virginia went viral.  In the first the Democrat sponsor of an “abortion” bill confirmed that she intends to allow the babies to be killed up to the moment of birth.  See here.

You can read the text of the bill in this article.  Under the proposal a baby could be killed up to the moment of birth if a doctor says it would help the woman’s MENTAL health.  Depressed that you are about to have a baby?  Well, let’s kill it.

The second story is about the Virginia governor’s foray into apologetics for killing little babies.  (When I first wrote this I almost wrote “infanticide.”  I am not going to use that word anymore.  It is sterile and academic.  Let’s call it what it is – killing little babies)  The governor did not even attempt to make a pretense that he would stop the killing of babies if they somehow escaped their mother’s wombs. 

Yesterday O’Leary for the UD News desk brought this story to my attention.  It is about a plot among students in the next state south (North Carolina for the geographically impaired) to go full Columbine on their school.

I would bet one billion dollars that if a school shooting occurred in Virginia today, Governor Northam would say something like “I am shocked and dismayed by these killings.”  And I am equally sure he would be completely blind to the disconnect between what he said today in response to the shootings and what he said yesterday in response to the pending legislation. 

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In case anyone missed these quotes on Barry's last thread on abortion:
Hillary Clinton is Wrong: OBGYN Says Abortion is Never Necessary to Save the Life of the Mother – MICAIAH BILGER OCT 24, 2016 Dr. Lawrence Koning, an OB-GYN in Corona, California, said Clinton also is wrong about late-term abortions being necessary to save a woman’s life or health, according to Christian News Network. “As an OB/GYN physician for 31 years, there is no medical situation that requires aborting/killing the baby in the third trimester to ‘save the mother’s life,’” Koning wrote on social media after the debate. “Just deliver the baby by C-section and the baby has 95+% survival with readily available NICU care even at 28 weeks. C-section is quicker and safer than partial birth abortion for the mother.” https://catholiccitizens.org/views/68533/hillary-clinton-wrong-obgyn-says-abortion-never-necessary-save-life-mother/ Board Certified OB/GYN Drops Truth Bomb on New York Abortion Law – COURTNEY KIRCHOFF THURSDAY JANUARY 24 2019 I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt. I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies. There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no. – Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/board-certified-ob-gyn-drops-truth-bomb-on-new-york-abortion-law/ Dr. David McKnight, who is a board certified OB/GYN released this statement; (Jan 24, 2019) “It appears that the State of New York has legislated that an unborn baby can now be killed at term. They did this joyfully and celebrated by illuminating the Freedom Tower in pink light. As a board-certified OB/GYN physician for over 30 years, I need to say publicly and unequivocally, that there is NEVER a medical reason to kill a baby at term. When complications of pregnancy endanger a mother’s life, we sometimes must deliver the baby early, but it ALWAYS with the intent of doing whatever we can to do it safely for the baby too. The decision to kill an unborn baby at term is purely for convenience. It is murder. And now it won’t be long before a struggling mother with a 1-month old baby will argue for the right to kill her baby too, because taking care of him or her is just too difficult and inconvenient. When you are willing to rationalize murder, why be subject to a timeline? God help us.” https://www.empirestateconservativenetwork.com/blog/2019/1/24/why-the-reproductive-health-act-is-abhorrent-trash Pro-life obstetrician blasts New York’s ‘horrible’ new abortion law – video https://www.facebook.com/LifeSiteNews/videos/573198246478195/
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See Also: Michael Egnor - The Junk Science of the Abortion Lobby (Fetuses not only experience pain but experience it more intensely than do adults) Vice President Mike Pence - Life Is Under Attack (There’s another word for this: infanticide. And it is morally reprehensible and evil.) Allie Stuckie - The Agenda Is Infanticide ( Thank you, New York and Virginia, for proving us right yet again: we’re not the extremists. You are.) VIDEO: Frank Stephens’ Powerful Speech On Down Syndrome Heartlander
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as to, "if a doctor says it would help the woman’s MENTAL health."
Abortion increases risk of mental illness - September 2011 - Excerpt: A new study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry by leading American researcher Dr. Priscilla Coleman of Bowling Green State University finds women who have an abortion face almost double the risk of mental health problems as women who have their baby. Coleman’s study is based on an analysis of 22 separate studies which, in total, examine the pregnancy experiences of 877,000 women, with 163,831 women having an abortion. The study also indicated abortion accounts for one in ten of every adverse mental health issue women face as a whole. “Results indicate quite consistently that abortion is associated with moderate to highly increased risks of psychological problems subsequent to the procedure,” the study says. http://networkedblogs.com/mAW07 Study in Prestigious Journal Shows Abortion harms women’s mental health Excerpt: The largest, most definitive analysis of the mental health risks associated with abortion was published Sept. 1 in the prestigious British Journal of Psychiatry. Conducted by Priscilla Coleman of Bowling Green State University, the analysis examines 22 studies published between 1995 and 2009 involving 877,181 women, of whom 163,831 had abortions. The findings: — “Women who have had an abortion have an 81 percent higher risk of subsequent mental health problems compared to women who have not had an abortion. — “Women who aborted have a 138 percent higher risk of mental health problems compared to women who have given birth. — “Women who aborted have a 55 percent higher risk of mental health problems compared to women with an ‘unplanned’ pregnancy who gave birth. — “Women with a history of abortion have higher rates of anxiety, depression, alcohol use/misuse, marijuana use, and suicidal behavior, compared to those who have not had an abortion. Coleman notes that a 2010 study by Canadian researchers published after she completed her analysis of the 22 studies, arrived at “strikingly similar” conclusions regarding the increased risk of mental health problems associated with abortion. http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/news/2011/09/study-in-prestigious-journal-shows-abortion-harms-women%E2%80%99s-mental-health/ Rape, Incest and Abortion: Searching Beyond the Myths - David C. Reardon, Ph.D. Says one woman reflecting back 25 years after she was coerced into aborting after becoming pregnant by her stepfather as a preteen: “Throughout the years I have been depressed, suicidal, furious, outraged, lonely, and have felt a sense of loss . . . The abortion which was to “be in my best interest” just has not been. As far as I can tell, it only ‘saved their reputations,’ ‘solved their problems,’ and ‘allowed their lives to go merrily on.’ . . . My daughter, how I miss her so. I miss her regardless of the reason for her conception.” http://afterabortion.org/2004/rape-incest-and-abortion-searching-beyond-the-myths-3/ Study: Women More Likely to Die After Abortion, Not Childbirth - September 2012 Excerpt: A new study of the medical records for nearly half a million women in Denmark reveals significantly higher maternal death rates following abortion compared to delivery. This finding has confirmed similar large-scale population studies conducted in Finland and the United States, but contradicts the widely held belief that abortion is safer than childbirth. http://www.lifenews.com/2012/09/05/study-shows-women-more-likely-to-die-after-abortion-n ot-childbirth/ - New Analysis of 20 Studies Finds 151% Increased Breast Cancer Risk After Abortion - JAN 7, 2019 https://www.lifenews.com/2019/01/07/new-analysis-of-study-studies-finds-151-increased-breast-cancer-risk-after-abortion/
The following article is eye opening in regards to what Doctors are telling women, or NOT telling women.
Stonewalled on Abortion - 2018 Excerpt: Abortion & Breast Cancer Gill interviewed several medical doctors. Is there evidence of a link between abortion and breast cancer? she asked. Yes, said Dr. Ian Gentles, coauthor of Complications: Abortion's Impact on Women (2013); there have been "many dozens of studies [that] show a real, statistically significant link." Yes, said Dr. Angela Lanfranchi, a breast cancer surgeon who has seen it in a textbook and in her practice. No, said Dr. David Grimes, an ob-gyn and abortionist for more than four decades, "there are no long-term consequences from abortion." This issue is settled, he said. Doing continued studies would not only be inappropriate, but unethical. Thus, right off the bat, Gill and Martin encountered the deep divide between medical professionals. But Grimes had underscored his point by adding that his opinion was the same as that of all the major medical organizations. This did seem to add credibility to the "no consequences" side, so that's where they went next. One after another, Gill contacted them: The American Cancer Society. The Canadian Cancer Society. The National Cancer Institute. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada. The Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists in London. The Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. And finally, the World Health Organization. But to her surprise, not only would none of them consent to an interview, they would not even speak to her. Not one. The case was closed, they all said. Anything she needed to know could be found on their website. It was as if they were all working off the same script. With no other option, and now starting to feel suspicious of those denying any link, Gill went to their websites. Each one referred to a 2003 conference held by the NIH cancer division, the National Cancer Institute (NCI), where it had been concluded once and for all that there was no link between abortion and breast cancer. Upon this discovery, she tried again to speak with someone at the NCI, going so far as to visit in person. But when she arrived, she was swiftly escorted off the grounds by security. What was going on here? A thoroughgoing journalist, Gill was not one to be intimidated into silence. She continued to dig and question until, eventually, she located a recording of the 2003 conference online and got to the bottom of the "no abortion-breast cancer link" conclusion. She explains her findings in some detail in the film, but suffice it here to say that a careful look raises serious questions about who or what dictated the outcome of this seminal conference. Was it honest medical science? Or was it abortion politics? Abortion & Pre-term Birth Pre-term birth rates have doubled in the U.S. since Roe. Every year, more than 11,000 newborns die on the day of their birth in America due to prematurity, and those that survive exact untold emotional and financial costs on health care resources and families before ever leaving the hospital. After discharge, they face heightened risks of such lifelong disabilities as cerebral palsy, autism, chronic lung disease, and other vital organ maladies. "It seems there's a real clear unwillingness to deal with the science on this," said Dr. Martin McCaffrey, a neonatologist who has frontline experience in caring for preemies and their families. He was invited in 2008 to serve as an expert panel member at the Surgeon General's Conference on Preventing Preterm Birth, held by the NIH. He brought up the abortion-prematurity link and presented 122 articles as supportive evidence, but the co-chairs would not allow discussion, even though the link has been demonstrated in more than 80 studies. McCaffrey estimates that abortion accounts for 18 percent of very preterm births (earlier than 32 weeks' gestation), yet in all the material published to raise awareness of prematurity, there is no mention of prior abortion as a possible risk factor. None. The question is, why not? Abortion & Adverse Psychological Effects This has been covered in Salvo before. Gill cites the alarmingly high rates of such maladies as PTSD, eating disorders, depression, substance abuse, and suicide in post-abortive women, but the most moving evidence of post-abortion trauma come from the post-abortive women she interviews, many of whom suffer heart-wrenching grief and regret decades later. Shouldn't women considering abortion be provided with this information? Gill asks. No, insists Dr. Grimes, the abortionist. That would be "a very overt attempt to dissuade or discourage women from exercising their right to have an abortion." Apparently this is what passes in his world for medical ethics. The Moral Imperative of Informed Consent For people of conscience, though, informed consent matters, and women considering abortion deserve factual information. Since neither the abortion industry nor the bureaus of medical apparatchiks will so much as countenance the data, Gill and Martin have brought it to the public themselves. Meanwhile, they continue to press the NIH and NCI to address the questions Hush raises, but so far they have received no response beyond the same scripted suggestions to visit the NCI website, which in turn still cites the 2003 conference. Hush is top-notch work. In many ways, you, the viewer, feel like you're along on their quest. And where appropriate, well-crafted graphics depict the medical explanations, making the breast cancer and pre-term birth connections understandable. "Over time," said Dr. Patrick Fagan, who coauthored a 2014 paper on the abortion-breast cancer link, "the 2003 NCI conference is going to become an embarrassment in the history of the NCI itself." Indeed, it may. It took Dr. Omalu four years to awaken the conscience of the NFL. The consciences of the NIH and NCI have already been slumbering for over thirteen years. One can hope that Hush will, paradoxically, finally wake them up. • https://salvomag.com/article/salvo39/stonewalled-on-abortion
i.e. Abortion industry is a wholesale deception and death industry.
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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