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Voom! Evolution in Fourier Space: appendix


SynthiaIn my previous 4 posts, I attempted to demonstrate how the definition of life as an information threshold, combined with the non-locality of information, and the inversion of space-time at an “event horizon” give us a handle on the origin-of-life (OOL).

But what I failed to do, was to give a complete example. While racking my brain, I realized that Craig Venter’s claim to have made artificial life was a perfect example. Now I know all the criticism of Venter: he copied an existing genome, he used a living cell to culture his copy, his copying machine involved biological reagents, etc. But grant me the privilege of pretending that he accomplished what he really wanted to demonstrate, and that was the making a new genome that had never existed before since the beginning of time.

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I didn't mean to imply that it was above your pay grade I just this would be incredible stuff to investigate further. I mean, I don't understand the math, but if you could show by using the big bang as a model that a similar type of event would be required for the origin of life, and perhaps other moments in the history of life, it would be amazing and people like Michael Shemer would shut up about "well how does the intelligent designer do it?!" I mean obviously that's an incredibly interesting question and he seems to have this impression that ID proponents think that it was through "miracles", which I like the Augustine quote about miracles only being a contradiction of our current knowledge of nature, and not through some knowable mechanism. Phaedros
I'm not sure if you mean "is this above my pay grade", or if you mean "if this were true, why hasn't physics taken notice?" The answer to both questions, is that it is far too vague to produce quantifiable numbers yet. The systems for which physicists can calculate entropy are all ideal gases, chosen precisely because they lack long-range interactions (= I_f) that motivate this post. Likewise, biologists have always chosen methods of analysis that emphasize long-range interactions, and only recently have tried to include local-only processes like diffusion into their models. So there is this gulf between biology and physics which neither side seems prepared to span. I'm hoping these loosely hung vines will inspire a more robust endeavor. Robert Sheldon
Uhhh...is this Nobel prize level stuff? Or is it just me? I mean this would be not only in biology but in physics as well. Phaedros

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