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Final Update: I found one press report saying Waggoner did indeed send a letter of apology. I’m not sure why news.google.com didn’t return this story. Regular google.com did. That’s good enough for me. Waggoner is off the hook as far as I’m concerned. However, in this press report the superintendent says the reason she was placed on paid leave beginning 1/31/06 had nothing to do with the parental complaints. It appears Mark Young had no reason to complain about the parents after all and neither did I have reason to complain about Waggoner.

The brouhaha is over this music teacher showing elementary students the play Faust and saying it is a great part of our civilization and Western culture while prohibiting Christmas songs at their “winter concert”. Christmas songs aren’t a great part of our civilization and Western culture?

Then over at Panda’s Thumb Matt Young and the usual suspects are whining about this teacher being disciplined over it. Incredible. These are the people we are up against. I have absolutely had it with people like Matt Young and their concerted effort to censor traditional American culture and values and replace it with their own new age crap. Get out of my country, Young. Right now. Pack your trash and g-e-t o-u-t.

Update: Okay Young, you’ve shown a modicum of sanity. You may unpack. While you’re at it consider that the ability to terminate grade school teachers exists for a reason. The firing of one for making inappropriate decisions regarding what six year old children can and cannot be exposed to isn’t the end of the world.

Update 2: Several have asked what’s wrong with 12 minutes of a sock puppet Faust video. What’s wrong is that it was shown to 1st graders who can be as young as 5 years old and since kindergarten isn’t a requirement in Colorado these may include children that have been quite sheltered. Some parents claimed their children were frightened by the video.

Some parents demanded the teacher’s firing, complaining their children were traumatized by the appearance of a leering devil as well as such objectionable elements as an allusion to suicide and a man appearing to be killed by a sword in silhouette.

Many parents agreed the video’s violent moments and depictions of the devil were inappropriate for young elementary school students, she said. After receiving assurances that a similar situation wouldn’t happen again, most were satisfied.

But a small group refuses to let the situation die, she said, in part because of lingering anger over Waggoner’s decision to make a December concert an end-of-the semester recital without the expected Christmas carols.

So you basically have a very young music teacher that angered parents twice and refuses to apologize for it. In a high income Colorado neighborhood where they pay for and expect better than that from their public schools, twice is one time too many. So she was suspended with pay. I haven’t seen any reason given for why she resigned. She may have been asked to resign or she may have realized that refusing to apologize burned too many bridges to ever have a good working relationship with student parents in that town again and resigned for that reason.

Correction: Waggoner isn’t all that young. She’s 33. Mibad. I’m looking to see if she actually did apologize to the parents. If I find that she did then I’ll be on her side. An admission of error and an apology should have been sufficient unless there’s more to the story than what’s been printed.

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I just might need emotional help, but for those "it's an opera, not a play" types ... From answers.com Opera A musical play, usually entirely sung, making use of costumes, staging, props, sets, and dramatic elements. Operas usually consist of two types of musical elements, the aria, which primarily expresses a single idea or theme, and the recitative which advances the story.Charlie
March 21, 2006
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Can we get our facts straight, and then flame?
Waggoner showed the kids 12 minutes from an educational children's video *about* opera, not the actual 1859 opera Faust by Charles Gounod. Some scenes from a filmed version of the opera were included, yes. So were Dame Joan Sutherland and sock puppets. Waggoner said the kids actually seemed to enjoy the show.

She was prepping them for a live performance of a light opera later that month. She was not indoctrinating them into devil worship, which is not the subject of the opera/play/story anyway. She was teaching them music appreciation, which is the job of a music teacher.

The community involved was not Mormon. In fact, according to the Rocky Mountain News, townspeople were wondering whether Mormons, who were building a church in a neighboring town, were Christians. Besides, I think Mormons sing Christmas carols. Waggoner was perhaps being over-sensitive, but maybe she knows the community better than we do. Maybe not. She ruffled some feathers by not including religious Christmas music. Politically, it was a bad move, but not cause for dismissal.

Handel composed the oratorio Messiah in England, for an English audience. Though German-speaking, he used excerpts from the King James Bible for the lyrics.

Goethe's play was based on German folkloric tradition about a man, who near suicide, sells his soul to the devil to gain his services. A French writer based his version of the play on Goethe's work, and Gounod in turn based the opera on the French play. The "man" attacked by another man with a sword (referenced in the newspaper stories) is in fact Mephistopheles, who is threatening the female lead, Marguerite. The rest of the story is probably not suitable for primary school students, but her aria is a famous one, and bits of it are quoted in the Tintin children's stories.

Did I mention she did not show the entire opera? Did you catch that part?

Waggoner, the teacher, is quoted as telling her superintendent that she will pray for him, because of his unjust treatment of her. She is remarkably charitable. You folks might try to emulate her.

She was not terminated, or fired. She was on administrative leave. The board did not reinstate her at its meeting Feb. 16. That's all. The teacher resigned. So did the mayor of Bennett, in protest.
At best, Waggoner made an error in judgment. She did not commit an offense that would be cause for dismissal. Who knows why she picked that particular video off the school's music room bookshelf? Maybe she doesn't associate Faust with devil worship, or didn't realize parts of the video would scare her kids. She was trying to do her job. Is any one of you a teacher? Did you ever make a mistake in class? If not, then give it a rest. Go judge someone else.

Okay, lets do get our facts straight. What Colorado law prohibits disciplinary action up to and including termination of a public school teacher for discretionary curriculum choices that parents or supervisors find inappropriate? Just because someone is trying to do a job doesn't mean they are doing the job. "Go judge someone else" is exactly right. Follow your own advice. -ds wheatdogg
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I have some questions. I am not trying to be critical, but the answers to them will help myself (and perhaps others) formulate their opinion. If you see fit to inform me but object to any of the questions, please tell me why so I might refine them.

1. Do you agree that it is wrong to assert someone to be a devil worshipper or a lesbian when experience suggests they're not?
If a parent really did say that it was horribly wrong if not true. 2. When do you think it is appropriate to introduce children to dark warnings about the devil?
When the child's parents or guardians decides it is appropriate. 3. When do you think it is appropriate for children to be confronted with questions regarding suicide or murder?
Well beyond 1st, 2nd, or 3rd grade. 4. Why is giving children nightmares a bad thing that should be avoided?
Because it's traumatic. 5. Do believe showings like this might have negative effects resulting, perhaps resulting in some long-term trauma?
Possibly. 6. Can you see any benefit to the showing?
At this age level none at all. 7. Can you see any benefit to frightening children?
Personally, no, not at this age level. I don't want a public school teacher making that decision for other people's children in any case. 8. Above you assert Faust as a play, but since the article uses the word opera, isn't this more likely an adaptation of Charles Gounod's opera "Faust", which was adapted from Michel Carré's play "Faust et Marguerite", which was "loosely based" on Goethe's aforementioned "Faust: Part I"?
It was a slip of the tongue. I know Faust as a story. 9. Do you think children should be introduced to opera at all?
Certainly but the value at 6 - 8 years old is questionable and the selection of age appropriate material a delicate one that should involve parents first. 10. Do you think Charles Gounod's opera "Faust" is significant to Western culture?
Maybe for Europe. America isn't Europe. 11. Do you think "Island of Tulipatan" would have been an acceptable opera to show? If not, due to age?
I think "The Three Little Pigs" opera adaptation would have been age appropriate. 12. Do you dispute Ms. Waggoner's Christianity?
No. 13. In principle, is it acceptable to you for songs about other religions to be sung at concerts held in the winter (I would say "at Christmas", but students are usually out for Christmas break at that time)? If no, even though holidays of several other religions fall during the winter and where members of those religions have also financially supported the education system that organises the concert?
Not merely acceptable but mandatory. 14. Do you believe America is more your country than Young's? If so, howcome?

That was hyperbole designed to get the loony left stirred up enough to comment. That said I do believe that many people feel no patriotism and don't really belong in the U.S. reaping the benefit of a country formed and defended with the blood and treasure of patriots. Young probably doesn't fit that unpatriotic category but I want to see him explain why he doesn't fit.

Cheers,
Richard

aquarichy
March 21, 2006
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DaveScot: while I probably agree that the children were too young to be seeing Faust, AND I agree in principle that, on a purely political level, communities should have relatively broad powers of decision with regard to their public schools, I was under the distinct impression that the spirit of your opposition to the PT defence of this woman was based upon her ludicrous insistence on removing Christmas songs from the winter concert, NOT on the fact that she probably made a poor curriculum choice. In the news article which is linked, specific reference is made to the comment of the mother to the teacher "aren't you a Christian?". To me, this just says it all. So what if she isn't a Christian? This IS the slippery slope that people fearfully react about when they claim that ID is just an attempt to introduce religion into the public schools. They envision just this sort of nightmare: the religiously-motivated agenda of the few resulting in the persecution of those who do not believe. Ironically, this woman apparently believes!tinabrewer
March 21, 2006
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Dave, "Neither will the world come to an end by grade school music teacher getting fired for making inappropriate curriculum decisions. What good is the right to terminate hires that don’t live up to expectations if you never exercise it? -ds" I never meant to suggest that what the teacher did is entirely appropriate. In fact, I kinda think that these students she taught are probably a little to young to be seeing Faust. All I'm saying is that the impression I get from the article you linked to is that some of the reactions against her may have been a little unreasonable. She claims people have called her a "devil worshiper" and a "lesbian". Do you find this behavior acceptable? "I can hardly believe you wrote this immediately following a comment about people being overly sensitive. Non sequitur. -ds" That this comment immediately follows one in which I express concern regarding oversensitivity is mere coincidence. The two thoughts are completely separate. I found (and still find) the comment by BWE to be particularly egregious; this is why I mentioned it. One can be sensitive without being overly sensitive. As John Davison would say, "Write that down." ;)crandaddy
March 21, 2006
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Hi, tb. You wrote: "Händles Messias sure is a great part of my (German) civilization I don’t know about yours." I'm a German Lutheran, so I'm inclined to agree with you. But Widipedia says: "In the summer of 1741 Handel, at the peak of his musical powers but depressed and in debt, began setting Charles Jennens' Biblical libretto to music at his usual breakneck speed. In just 24 days, Messiah was complete. However it was not first performed until 1742, at a charity concert on Fishamble Street in Dublin's Temple Bar district on April 13 after production difficulties and last-minute rearrangements of the score. Jonathan Swift (author of "Gulliver's Travels" and a local clergyman), had put some pressure on the premiere and had it cancelled entirely for a period until it was retitled 'A Sacred Oratorio' and revenue from the show promised to local charities. Like many of Handel's compositions, it borrows liberally from earlier works, both his own and those of others. "It is said that while Handel was writing the Messiah, his valet would often find him weeping silently at his desk, overcome by the beauty and majesty of the music that was flowing from his pen. The secondary source of this story is a pamphlet of the Choral Society at Trinity College Dublin. The original source is not known to this author. "The premiere of Messiah took place at the Music Hall in Dublin on April 13, 1742. Handel led the performance from the harpsichord, and Matthew Dubourg conducted the orchestra. Dubourg was an English violinist, conductor and composer. He had worked with Handel as early as 1719 in London." Soo...can there be any doubt that Handel's "Messiah" is integral to English/American culture as well? I play it every week as I'm mowing the lawn. It's quite inspiring to me! And intelligently designed, as far as I can tell!Lutepisc
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Here's the old seal: http://a.abclocal.go.com/images/052504_county_seal.jpg "Sanitized" seal: http://lacounty.info/images/seal-1.gifruss
March 21, 2006
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"They had been threatened with an ACLU lawsuit" They should seriously be renamed the Anti Christian Leftist Union, because that's all they're good for. I think it's a disgrace that they have the word America in their name, and I'm not even an American.jasonng
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Dave Scott wrote: "Speaking of banning - isn’t it amazing that San Francisco hasn’t renamed itself yet? How that bastion of leftist lunacy has allowed itself to remain named after a Christian saint is just mind boggling." Dave, just wait. You may not have read about this but the City of Los Angeles (City of the Angels) recently removed the cross from the city seal, the cross being there because Christianity played an important role in the city's history. They had been threatened with an ACLU lawsuit, and immediately caved. It was replaced with a non-descript building that might be a mission, or perhaps a Spanish-style waterworks building, it's hard to tell.russ
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The townspeople have linked the two issues. That’s their prerogative. A teacher’s actions don’t happen in a vacuum but are cumulative. People don’t forget. She began offending them with the banning of Christmas songs in a Christmas concert (I’d have hung her out to dry for that alone)...

OK. So you admit that this very well may be vengeance taken out on this teacher because the "good townspeople" don't like her or her positions. I guess that truly is the american way - according to you fundies at any rate.

...then drove them over the edge with Faust.

Sock puppets??? Are you serious??? If these kids were so frightened by images of some guy in a devil costume, it is only because their loving parents have already traumatized them with nightmarish tales of devils and demons. Perhaps she should have been sensitive to the fact that she was dealing with religiously traumatized children and not shown them that film segment for that reason.

The new age crap...

Why do you keep insisting that secularism is "new age crap?" We atheists no more buy into "new age" nonsense any more than we do your Bible tales.

...is political correctness that precludes celebrating Christmas in the traditional American way...

There you go again. Typical fundy - equating "American Way" with "Christianity." That was not in the constitution the last time I checked.

...and the exceptionally poor judgement of showing a video of Faust to children so young that the images frightened them. -ds

As stated above - only because these kids quite likely have already been traumatized with nightmare stories from the Bible - kind of a preconditioning thing. Other kids, kids who's minds have not been polluted with such savage imagery from toddlerhood, might have just laughed at it - bad special effects and all.

I'm not a fundie you belligerent moron. I'm leaving your comment intact as a testament to fact that with friends like you, NeoDarwinian evolutionists don't need enemies. You're a poster child for everything that disgusts decent people. :lol: -ds JKVisFX
March 21, 2006
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tb wrote: "@russ: Händles Messias sure is a great part of my (German) civilization I don’t know about yours."

Yes, it is a part of western culture and American culture as well (my parents were German-speaking Mennonite immigrants to the USA). That was my point. But it would likely be banned in American public schools since it is religious and specifically Christian in nature.

Speaking of banning - isn't it amazing that San Francisco hasn't renamed itself yet? How that bastion of leftist lunacy has allowed itself to remain named after a Christian saint is just mind boggling. Maybe because it's a Spanish name and the anti-Mexican bigotry sweeping the rest of California hasn't inundated the bay area yet.-ds :shock: russ
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"Three comments of mine were deleted from Panda’s Thumb just yesterday. They were less offensive than yours, shorter, and I even used three different names in an effort to hide my identity. Don’t give me any sanctimonious crap about them being more open to debate. The only difference between me and them is I’m not trying hide anything."

That I truly doubt. But, if they were deleted, perhaps it was because you used three different names all coming from the same I.P.? Dishonest crap like that just might warrant your posts being deleted.

"And I put your post up, little troll. Sans vowels. -ds"

How very mature of you.

Really doubt it, eh? Feel free to ask Lamuella where the comment is that he/she was responding to here. :lol:

Or you can examine the second to the last comment here which is the one Lamuella was responding to. The last two comments are mine and have been deleted from the main site but not from this database of PT comments sorted by author. Isn't that just precious? -ds JKVisFX
March 21, 2006
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I was just slumming through that thread and found this:

"Christians, can’t live with em, can’t feed em to the lions anymore."

It's comment #88206 by BWE. I should also say that I looked pretty hard to find where this person was somehow reprimanded for it but couldn't see that it was even acknowledged. Over here, we have no tolerance for attacks like that directed toward any faith.

I can hardly believe you wrote this immediately following a comment about people being overly sensitive. Non sequitur. -ds crandaddy
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I think people are just WAY too sensitive! The world will not come to an end as a result of showing a bunch of public elementary school kids a performance of Faust. Nor will it come to an end as a result of acknowledging to them the fact that Christmas is the holiday on which Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. What worries me are all the knee-jerk reactionary wackos out there who file lawsuits and get people fired from their jobs at the slightest whim!

Neither will the world come to an end by grade school music teacher getting fired for making inappropriate curriculum decisions. What good is the right to terminate hires that don't live up to expectations if you never exercise it? -ds crandaddy
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I almost want to take back what I wrote on a previous post. I read the segment in detail, instead of relying on the summation given by DAveScot, and I have to say I am truly appalled at the treatment of this teacher. You cannot seriously believe that it was appropriate for her to be punished and asked to apologize for showing the children 12 minutes of an opera? Actually, far from wanting to remove what I said on the last post, I would even more strongly emphasize it precisely because of the greater contextual understanding I now have: who the hell heck [see comment policy - cussing is not allowed] are these so-called Christians that they object to their children seeing representations of the devil? Is not the devil a primary component of THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS WORLDVIEW? The central moral of the Faustus legend is fundamentally a Christian one: a man of learning selling his soul to the devil in exchange for all knowledge is practically a restatement of the Genesis account of the origin of evil. When I was talking about the weakness which is engendered by the attempt to sanitize and purify the surroundings in order to be safe from attack, this is exactly the behavior you would expect to see from such a psychically weakened state: the person, completely unable to endure ideas which run contrary to their own views, blindly begins attacking everything in sight, in much the same way as a weakened and disordered immune system, unable to endure the normal challenges of the microorganisms in its environment runs amok and begins attacking the body it was designed to protect! How nauseating. This does no service to the cause of ID which will depend, for its success, on precisely the virtues of impartiality and openmindedness which are so deeply degraded by this type of mindless conservatism. When I hear about women like the mother who called up the teacher to complain, I almost fear the religious right more than the anti-religionists. It really doesn't matter which is worse, in the end. Just that both extremes are deleterious to the truth, which shall set us free...

Six years old is a little young for dark operas in public school without parental consent, don't you think? She's being punished for being too stupid and insensitive to be a teacher. Not everyone has what it takes. She probably should have never been hired in the first place. A hiring error is being corrected. -ds

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Dave, why do you never post my comments? I find them stimulating and well-written, not to toot my own horn.

I don't recognize your name. Sorry. This is the only comment of yours I have for reference. Maybe I deleted the others for being unforgivably forgettable? -ds jt636
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Sooo...

Are you going to have the guts - and honesty - to post the comments from those of opposing views? I see my earlier post was not put up yet, others have been since mine.

Isn't it interesting the difference in tactics between the bloggers at Science Blogs and Panda's Thumb when it comes to replies to blog postings. The Sb and PD guys leave all replies as written, uncensored, unedited. When they respond, they quote the text in proper context and respond with facts, logic and reason. You guys, on the other hand, simply ignore the opposing replies by not even posting them, only allowing those that agree or only disagree on minor points. How's that for a demonstration of honesty and integrity.

How very Christian of you, DaveScot.

Three comments of mine were deleted from Panda's Thumb just yesterday. They were less offensive than yours, shorter, and I even used three different names in an effort to hide my identity. Don't give me any sanctimonious crap about them being more open to debate. The only difference between me and them is I'm not trying hide anything (except the name DaveScot from PT censors). And I put your post up, little troll. Sans vowels. :lol: -ds

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Someone is showing the Faust again, but who is right? Is Göthes play meant for first graders? I don't think they would get much out of it! Is it great part of American civilization and Western Culture? I doubt that it plays a great role among American civilization just by looking at the reaction of the law abiding Christians that are trying to crucify some EVIL teacher because their littluns are being brought in touch with EVIL. It sure is nice to know that so much great German culture is taught in American schools (even in first grade ;)), but maybe at the right age would be more appropriate and even more appreciated. I can see where people at PT are coming from looking at the right wing Christian reaction, it is nothing but ignoranz. Hey but now lets all sing Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht. No someone looked at Wiki and found out that some myths resulted from Faust and now they draw the line to ID, saying it is myth. How ignorant is that? A lot of German literature has been writtin upon Faust, but how does this all relate to ID? I find myself in the midst of a big Blog kindergarten mud fight about ignoranz on both sides. Habe nun, ach! Philosophie, Juristerei und Medizin, Und leider auch Theologie! Durchaus studiert, mit heißem Bemühn. Da steh ich nun, ich armer Tor! Und bin so klug als wie zuvor; Heiße Magister, heiße Doktor gar, Und ziehe schon an die zehen Jahr Herauf, herab und quer und krumm Meine Schüler an der Nase herum - Und sehe, daß wir nichts wissen können! Das will mir schier das Herz verbrennen. "Es irrt der Mensch, solang er strebt" "Ein guter Mensch in seinem dunklen Drange ist sich des rechten Weges wohl bewusst." Sometimes I wish Americans would get a bit more open minded, maybe a bit more liberal towards things. Maybe it is time to stop dogmatizing everything. Embrace culture, and I mean all of it. Ignoranz destroys freedom. Now go and read Faust instead of using it. :) @russ: Händles Messias sure is a great part of my (German) civilization I don't know about yours.tb
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"Get out of my country, Young. Right now. Pack your trash and g-e-t o-u-t." I second that motion and I'll kick in a dime to help cover the one-way boat ride to any far away port.dougmoran
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[troll]

I guess you just don't like being shown up for the fool that you are, do you? Can't take it when someone else, much smarter than yourself, points out how you are wrong so you spew out a piece of bile at guys like Matt Young just when the defend a teacher who has clearly been treated unfairly? How about, instead, arguing the facts - oh, I forgot, you don't have any facts that support your position so you use the only thing you do have - screeching, like a banshee.

I lay odds on that you will censor or not post this reply at all.

Have a nice day you 'tard.

JKVisFX
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First of all, Faust IS a great part of our western civilization and culture. Having said that, I am equally disgusted over the evisceration of meaning in the public schools in the name of 'sensitivity'. My husband and I now basically dread attending our daughter's Winter Concert every year because it is such a charade. The "Christmas" songs are all secular and deal with such lofty concepts as "snow" and "trees", whereas we hear numerous songs and hymns from other religious traditions which are actually about those religious traditions! For me, this is less about respecting Western Civilization than it is about the gross misunderstanding of the idea of sensitivity and tolerance. A person cannot have sensitivity to other views unless he realizes that there ARE other views. I WANT my daughters to grow up knowing that there are people out there who believe differently than they do.. Why? Because it is only through the actual interactions with the psyches of their fellowmen that they have any hope of refining their own views and beliefs. An analogy to the human immune system is in order here: one view of disease says "kill all the germs because they cause disease and you don't want that" Based on this view, we use lots of poisons and sprays to purify and sterilize our homes and lives, thinking that we will be safe. We use antibiotics at every turn, thinking if we can just get rid of the bad bad germs, then everything will be okay. The response of our bodies and the environment has been interesting though. We now have epidemic levels of asthma and other auto-immune diseases which are being directly linked to the unnatural antiseptic conditions of modern life, and threatening antibiotic-resistant diseases which have adapted well to our most clever attacks. Of course the answer is that the organism must be equal to its environment, and this equal strength only develops through full interaction with that environment. The same is true culturally and socially. If we think we can protect ourselves from conflict by sterilizing the public sphere from the bogeymen of religion, we will just become weakened in our ability to confront the natural conflicts which arise in life.

Remarkable. Thank you that insight. -ds tinabrewer
March 21, 2006
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To me the most salient point of this post is taken from Panda's website, "It is against this backdrop that we struggle to keep creationism out of the public schools." Creationism, in this context, seems to be spelled "ID". ID, of course, is supported by Ph.D. Scientists, many of whom have no religious affiliation, and others whose position is not in agreement with the position of their own religion.bFast
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I personally doubt that this was even an accurate quote of the parent in question. The teacher wants to keep her job so she's got an agenda, and odds are that the reporter has taken the side of the "courageous teacher" fighting the "intolerant religous-bigot parent". That's a more appealing story to most reporters than "Renegade Teacher Exposes First, Second and Third Graders to Dark German Opera Themes"russ
March 21, 2006
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"Christmas songs aren’t a great part of our civilization and Western culture?"

I'm not sure Jingle Bells is on par with Faust.

You're right. Jingle Bells is far more important for 6, 7, and 8 year olds. -ds Tiax
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I don't think we have any idea whether the music curriculum of that school is specific enough to limit what the music teacher shows her class - most music curricula are quite general and unlike science curricula in this regard.

Also, I don't get calling Faust "new-age." The legend of Faust is a signficant part of Christian literature - Faust standing for the arrogant one who sells his soul to the devil, and then ultimately pays for his rejection of God.

I do imagine that people in the community (and DaveScot also) are upset about the music teacher's stand on Christmas music, but it seems to me that is an issue that should have been dealt with directly rather than perhaps using this opera event as a payback.

It doesn't seem to me that Matt Young's post at PT is about the Christmas music issue, but rather the subsequent suspension issues over Faust, which is a different issue.

The townspeople have linked the two issues. That's their prerogative. A teacher's actions don't happen in a vacuum but are cumulative. People don't forget. She began offending them with the banning of Christmas songs in a Christmas concert (I'd have hung her out to dry for that alone) then drove them over the edge with Faust. The new age crap is political correctness that precludes celebrating Christmas in the traditional American way and the exceptionally poor judgement of showing a video of Faust to children so young that the images frightened them. -ds Jack Krebs
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Is Handel's "Messiah" "a great part of our civilization and Western culture"?russ
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"'I devoted half of my life singing in the church,' she said, adding that she has recorded two albums of Christian music." Say what, now? Why, if she was so inculcated with Christian music, would she not allow Christmas songs to be sung at the winter concert? Could they have not chosen a sampling from other relgious traditions that have songs for holidays around that period? Surely exposure to at least some of that stuff would be better than none; and probably more relevant than Faust of all things.Brian
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She wouldn't use christmas songs but she forced them to listen to Faust? She is not just stuck in PC limbo but she is sadistic too.Doug
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What happened to PT’s "teachers should stick to the curriculum” mantra?Qualiatative
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Your post seeems to give the impression that you think the manner in which Tresa Waggoner is currently being treated is acceptable. Do you? Regardless of what you may think about her earlier decision to include or not include certain music in the winter musical progam, it doesn't justify the treatment she's receiving now. And your quote: "Christmas songs aren’t a great part of our civilization and Western culture?" is kind of silly. As far as I know, she never claimed that Christmas songs weren't part of our culture. She has, in fact, recorded two albums of Christian music so I suspect she actually thinks that religious music is an important part of our culture.

Your post seeems to give the impression that you think the manner in which Tresa Waggoner is currently being treated is acceptable. No, it's not acceptable. She should have been terminated outright and not been given a paid vacation first. -ds tnewell
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