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Why Do Democrats Seem Bent on Making this Worse?


I have never been an advocate of conspiracy theories, because they violate the rule of parsimony known as Occam’s Razor — loosely, “the simplest explanation that accounts for all of the data should be preferred.”

Too often conspiracy mavens advance “enormously complex coordinated malfeasance” as an explanation for that which is far more easily explained by simple stupidity. Take the 2008 fiscal crisis as an example. There is no need to invoke a vast government conspiracy to explain it. The crisis had its roots in the cratering of the subprime mortgage industry, which in turn was caused by the government dictating lending policies to achieve goals the government deemed more important than sound lending practices. Stupid? Of course. Nefarious? Probably not.

I submit that preface to what I am about to say, because I want you to know I am saying it tentatively and reluctantly.

On Wednesday Colorado Governor Jared Polis said that some social distancing measures will remain in place until there is a cure or vaccine, and the “new normal” will last for many months to come. I am not sure what he means by all of that, but if he means he is going to continue some form of lockdown until there is a cure (an event that we hope for but which may never happen), then that sort of willfully destructive policy cannot be laid at the feet of mere stupidity. Jared Polis is not the only Democrat leader who appears to be bent on destroying the economy. He seems to be following a playbook the Democrats are implementing from coast to coast.

And that is why I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that at least some Democrats are intentionally trying to destroy the economy.

Why on earth would the Democrats want to plunge the country into misery, destruction and chaos you might ask. I have two answers. First, Democrats know that under normal circumstances they have exactly zero chance of getting Joe Biden — an octogenarian political hack who should be seeking treatment for incipient dementia instead of running for president — elected. And so they are happy to run us through a wringer of economic destruction, hoping that the people will demand a change in November even if that change entails taking a flyer on Biden.

The second answer I am less certain about, and even if it is true it is something that I believe may be circulating only at the highest levels of the progressive movement. It is no secret that progressives since Woodrow Wilson have chafed at the Constitution’s constraints on both unfettered government action in the domestic sphere and multilateral action with other countries in the international sphere. I fear that some progressives at the very top will seek to use this virus to cause chaos and destruction with a view toward dismantling Constitutional constraints in both areas. Their end game may be removing all limits on the power of the federal government and the surrender of our sovereignty as they meld the U.S. into a new global order.

There is precedent. FDR’s enlargement of the federal government’s powers beginning in 1933 would have been unthinkable even four years earlier. If the Democrats are successful in escalating this crisis into another great depression (or worse), who knows what action that is unthinkable now will be law next year or the year after that?

On Monday, April 17, the Plainwell plant had 60 positive cases and one death among workers, according to Allegan County health officials and confirmed by a spokesperson for the union representing plant employees. Of the 60 positive cases identified at the plant, 10 are Allegan County residents, county health department public information officer Lindsay Maunz said. In total, Allegan County has reported 42 positive COVID-19 cases as of Monday. The Plainwell plant, which employs 1,300 workers, was compliant with hygiene standards including hand sanitizing stations throughout the work space, sanitizing frequently touched surfaces, employees wearing masks and appropriate screening for symptoms and temperature upon arrival to the facility, Maunz said. rhampton7
High Liner Foods Inc. says it has suspended production at its fish processing plant in Portsmouth, N.H., after confirming positive COVID-19 cases. The Nova Scotia-based fisheries company says it is deep cleaning the facility and conducting contact tracing and risk assessment. rhampton7
Marshalltown, IA Mayor Joel Greer confirmed to KCCI Monday that 34 employees of the JBS pork processing plant in town tested positive for COVID-19. JBS employs about 2,400 people in Marshalltown. The company previously confirmed that employees in some of its plants tested positive for the virus but would not confirm infection numbers or which plants had positive cases. JBS cited “employee privacy” as its reasoning for not releasing the information. rhampton7
Rose Packing on Chicago's southside is reporting 21 cases of COVID-19 among its more than 500 employees. Rose Packing says they are using strict protocol to clean the facility every night and handing out personal protective equipment (PPE) to its employees. rhampton7
Brown County, WI officials are investigating a cluster of coronavirus infections linked to an east-side meatpacking plant after the county's total number of confirmed cases climbed to nearly 300 over the weekend. The recent spike includes a cluster of cases at the JBS Packerland meatpacking facility at 1330 Lime Kiln Road, Shove said. The number of cases from the plant is unknown. Shove said the CDC will assist with contact tracing to determine how many people were infected. The county also confirmed coronavirus cases at American Foods Group in Green Bay and Salm Partners in Denmark, but Shove said those meat-processing companies have not seen as many as JBS. rhampton7
Two dozen employees at the Tyson plant in Emporia, Kansas have contracted the coronavirus, Lyon Co. health officer Renee Hively told 13 NEWS Monday. "We started seeing one, we anticipated there'd be another one, and then when that number started going up, it was like, yeah, we definitely have a cluster here," Hively said. rhampton7
Nuclear power plants can now implement longer shifts for workers and delay some inspections, raising concerns that as the coronavirus pandemic upends basic operations the industry may be bending the rules too far. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is already allowing six U.S. power plants to extend workers’ shifts, to as long as 12 hours a day for two weeks, and more may be coming. That’s up significantly from current standards that require people to get two-to-three days off a week when pulling shifts that long. Employees can also work as many as 86 hours in a week now, up from 72 hours. Exelon Corp., operator of the biggest U.S. nuclear fleet, says it “can no longer meet the work-hour controls” at four of its reactors, including the Braidwood plant in Illinois. NextEra Energy Inc. said the same thing about its Seabrook power plant in New Hampshire. The companies say that the extended work hours won’t have an adverse impact on safety. rhampton7
It’s been over a month since the Defense Department instituted a travel ban and issued new policy requiring social distancing wherever possible throughout the force, but the spread of coronavirus among troops continues unabated. The infection rate among service members stands at 1,637-per-million, as of Monday, compared to the overall U.S. rate of 2,283-per-million. With 22 deaths so far, DoD’s death rate is at 0.4 percent, vs. the overall U.S. rate of 5 percent. Senior Defense officials have acknowledged that asymptomatic carriers could mean hundreds or thousands of unknown COVID-19 cases during the ranks, prompting a new push for more thorough testing. DoD’s labs are able to test about 9,000 samples a day currently, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told reporters Tuesday, but the department wants to grow that several times over. rhampton7
State Rep. Heather Scott, a Republican who represents parts of Northern Idaho, spoke about Gov. Brad Little’s (R) stay-at-home orders in an episode of the “The Jess Fields Show” podcast on Thursday, saying the governor's classification of some workers as essential and others nonessential was “illegal.” “I mean that’s no different than Nazi Germany,” Scott said of the orders, “where you had government telling people, ‘you are an essential worker or a nonessential worker.’” Scott then compared workers asked to stay-at-home to prevent the spread of coronavirus to victims of the Nazis brought to concentration camps, saying “the nonessential worker got put on a train” and that residents are calling the Republican governor “Little Hitler.” rhampton7
cf. the discussion @ 32, 33, 34 & 36. Whatever the reasons for or motives behind the mass slaughter of bison on the American plains in the mid nineteenth century, why would it be morally wrong? Why would starving, what at the time was viewed as an inferior race, as Seversky believes, be morally wrong? Is it wrong because an admitted moral relativist/subjectivist says it’s wrong? How are his moral beliefs and opinions morally binding on anyone else? At best such beliefs are disingenuous; at worst they are downright irrational and hypocritical. john_a_designer
A tiny, 'unintelligent', microscopic viral particle is bringing H. sapiens on its knees. Oh the irony. :) Truthfreedom
But mass starvation is so last century. Today, all a government has to do is sit on its hands and let a virus do all the work.
Ahh. 'Natural Selection' in action! Maybe you naturalists should offer your 'god' more child sacrifice (a.k.a. as abortion). Truthfreedom
4 Denyse OLeary April 19, 2020 at 12:31 pm "Government can just as easily enforce starvation as anything else. Grasp that and you understand much." But mass starvation is so last century. Today, all a government has to do is sit on its hands and let a virus do all the work. MatSpirit
bornagain77 @ 30 included something interesting. The projected deaths due to COVID-19 is 60,000. Influenza kills 56,000 every year. The difference between COVID-19 and influenza, as far as numbers are concerned, is the numbers for influenza tend to be more accurate. COVID-19 causes a person's lungs to fill in extreme cases, which is why shortness of breath is a symptom. What's happening is anyone testing positive and dying is being added to COVID-19 deaths. Most of the people who have died and been classified as COVID-19 have not had their lungs filling with anything. They died of other causes, but they need to make the deaths as high as possible. Even with the numbers skewed, it is nowhere near the projections. BobRyan
34: "@Sev can you imagine what Torquemada could have accomplished with phones, railcars, nuclear bombs? He could have annihilated entire nations of infidels and heretics." Fake history. During the entire 200 year history of the Spanish Inquisition, fewer than 5,000 people were executed. That would just be a good day's work for the materialists running Stalin's Soviet Union, or Pol Pot's Cambodian regime. Inquisition courts were much fairer & less brutal than most state courts of the day. Some criminals deliberately blasphemed so they would be sent to the Inquisition jails, because they were treated much better there than in state prisons. I'm not Catholic, but I do value truth. I wish everybody did. anthropic
Supremacist in discourse: Let’s not forget the mass slaughter of buffalo [sic] in the United States in the 19th century whose purpose was to starve the Native American peoples into submission and enable their forced relocation . Anyone have any idea why S would push this falsehood of one and exactly one motivation for the bison slaughter? How about like when we learned in middle school that the railroads comissioned wholesale slaughter to protect the roads from damage from the herds and the resulting derailments? How about the collision of locomotives with herds? How about the trade in bison hides for making industrial products? and the tongues for delicacy? Any of dozens of reasons for the slaughter can be found online instead of assuming the high horse. The people who did that were neither atheist nor socialist. Really? Zero atheists in the old west? Based on _____? And socialism in the Old West? As if a powerful central government was availble in the territories to even tempt frontier people to employ it for mass confiscation of personal and business property. You just have to snicker at the motivation and claim in that choice tidbit of moot logic. groovamos
Another lawsuit has been filed that accuses Gov. Andy Beshear (R)
Beshear is a Democrat not a Republican. jerry
@Sev can you imagine what Torquemada could have accomplished with phones, railcars, nuclear bombs? He could have annihilated entire nations of infidels and heretics. What would the Orthodox Christian Vlad III have done to Turkey if he’d had an H-bomb? Jim Thibodeau
Let's not forget the mass slaughter of buffalo in the United States in the 19th century whose purpose was to starve the Native American peoples into submission and enable their forced relocation . The people who did that were neither atheist nor socialist. Seversky
Government can just as easily enforce starvation as anything else. Grasp that and you understand much.
No government would ever do that some might say. But if they do, they have no grasp on history -- even history within living memory. Stalin starved millions to enforce his policies. And the New York Times gave him cover by publishing propaganda denying the mass murder. Tens of millions died of starvation at Mao's hands. And the mainstream media carries water for Xi -- Mao's successor -- even to this day. Barry Arrington
You might reasonably disagree about whether mitigation is better than suppression, or the strengths of any particular plan under those names. But you don’t need to invoke an New World Order to see why a governor might suggest physical distancing will be with us for many months.
As I said, I am not sure what Polis and the other Dems mean when they say some social distancing measures will remain in place until there is a cure or vaccine, and the “new normal” will last for many months to come. My thesis is tentative, and I am waiting to see what they actually do. If what they actually do is continue a lockdown of the economy, we will have our answer. Orthomyxo, no one disputes that reasonable precautions are in order. Barry Arrington
I find it very interesting that Darwinists on UD are, all of the sudden, very much pro-life. I just wish that they always were this consistent in championing life:
No, Oprah. COVID-19 is not ravaging us (Black Americans). Abortion is. The public needs to be well-informed, not fed another us versus them narrative. Fri Apr 17, 2020 Excerpt: The number of black lives taken out annually in America by abortion is more than twice the current number (138,101 as of April 16th) of total coronavirus deaths worldwide. Thirty-five percent of abortions in the U.S. are among African-Americans, according to the CDC. If we applied that to the total number of U.S. abortions reported by the (pro-abortion) Guttmacher Institute in 2017 (862,320 abortions of which 301,812 of them were committed on black babies), there are an estimated 827 black lives wiped out by abortion every single day. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/no-oprah-covid-19-is-not-ravaging-us-abortion-is Daily Death count - Covid-19 - America https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19?country=USA Total deaths thus far in America due to Covid - 40,000 Total deaths predicted in America due to Covid - 60,000 U.S. Abortions in 2017: ~862,320 (Guttmacher Institute) Abortions per day: 2362+ (GI) Abortions per hour: 98+ (GI) 1 abortion every 96 seconds (GI) https://www.all.org/learn/abortion/abortion-statistics/
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/republicans-finally-cave-on-funds-for-widespread-testing/ Jim Thibodeau
Ortho, I'm predicting that in the US, option #3 might be attempted in a few population centers, with #2 and #1 in more sparsely populated areas. Some of the natives in my neck of the woods are getting restless, so orders to stay at home can't maintained much longer. Many people are going to voluntarily continue distancing themselves, I'm sure. daveS
When did an ID blog become a party political one? aarceng
The government should mandate that vitamin companies start mass producing the supplements listed in the following medical paper: EVMS CRITICAL CARE COVID-19 MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL- and have inspectors in place to maintain the quality of the products. ET
The Hill:
As multiple pork processing facilities across the country shutter due to an increasing number of coronavirus outbreaks among workers, poultry plants may be next. A poultry processing plant in southwest Georgia has reported four employee fatalities as a result of coronavirus infections, according to the Associated Press (AP). The owner of the chicken processing plant is Tyson Foods, which recently closed its pork processing facility in Columbus Junction, Iowa, after multiple employees contracted the novel virus. Earlier this week, two workers from the Columbus Junction facility died from complications with the virus. Company spokesman Gary Mickelson told AP that three of the employees worked directly in the facility in Camilla, Ga., and the fourth employee worked in a supporting role outside the plant.
I’m about two hours south of that Camilla Georgia plant. Make sure to wash your hands extra good after handling any meat packages. Jim Thibodeau
It's certainly true that you have to weigh the wider health and economic impacts. Science alone won't tell you the best approach here, so that will be something or countries and states to do according to their own values (and health systems for that matter). The US, UK and most of Europe have probably missed the opportunity to eliminate the virus, so there are really 3 options now. Let it run like wildfire: Lombardy, UK and NY give you an idea of what the start of that looks like. I dont' think anyone wants it. Mitigate / flatten the curve: Accept a large number of cases and deaths are going to happen, but use physical distancing and hygiene measures to spread them out over a longer period and perhaps hope for treatments to curtail the worst of death toll and morbidity. Suppression: Keep the case numbers as low as possible while waiting for treatments or vaccines. Ths requires the capacity to test widely, trace contacts and isolate cases. Something that works best when the prevalence is very low, to begin with, so will need a longer period of lockdown (at greater short term economic cost) before restrictions can be released. To work, both mitigation and suppression require some sort of physical distancing for a long period of time. You might reasonably disagree about whether mitigation is better than suppression, or the strengths of any particular plan under those names. But you don't need to invoke an New World Order to see why a governor might suggest physical distancing will be with us for many months. orthomyxo
@RHampton multiple Tyson employees have died from the virus. Stock down 33% since January. Jim Thibodeau
“What do you guys think will happen if you don’t have some form of social distancing (not lockdowns, but work from home, restrictions gatherings , distancing in resteraunts etc) for the rest of the year? “
I am going to continue social distancing and that is my choice. I think what is most difficult to me is how little we really know about this virus other than it is highly contagious and that it kills people at what rate we don’t know. Also the goalposts keep moving. We were told that the reason for staying home was to flatten the curve, now it’s that we need more testing or first a vaccine.
“With no suppression epidemic will pick up again and infect >60% of the population.”
We’re gonna get it anyway eventually
“When the epidemic picks up you to choose between strict measures to suppress it or accepting a lot of death and illness.”
Unfortunately deaths and illness are unavoidable and not just a result of the virus. For instance the toll on our healthcare system has been catastrophic. The premier medical clinic in the country, Mayo, 65% of hospital beds are empty, 75% of the operating rooms are empty. The nurses in my family are seeing their hours cut. My niece went to NY and they don’t have anything to do. Hospitals are empty other than certain hot spots, however even the hot spots are dying down as evidenced by my niece who is on the ground in NY
“I don’t think you need to invoke conspiracy theories here, it might just be that having some physical distancing in place for a long time will have the best outcome for both public health and the economy.“
I assume good faith on those that have a different take than I do, and certainly the idea of physical distancing staying in place for a long time is not something that need be some type of conspiracy theory . As an aside Neiman Marcus is reported to be declaring bankruptcy this week, if so one of many coming down the pike. Vivid vividbleau

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