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I despise Henry Kissinger. He is an evil man. I am currently reading his On China (2011), and I was reminded of just how evil he is when I read his apology for Zhou Enlai (pp. 241-43). For those who do not remember, as premier of the PPR during the tumultuous 60s and 70s, Zhou was Mao’s chief henchman. The world will never know how many people Mao killed. Estimates range from 40 to 80 million, and Zhou was at his side implementing his policies every step of the way. Of this henchman to a genocidal maniac Kissinger writes:

Surely Zhou’s methods of political survival involved lending his administrative skill to the execution of policies that he may well have found personally distasteful . . .

This makes me want to puke. What kind of sociopath uses the word “distasteful” to describe someone’s response to participation in genocide? It will come as no surprise that Kissinger reveres Machiavelli above all other theorists, and nowhere is this more plain than when he continues[in this passage Zhou is the advisor and Mao is the prince in view ]:

The advisor to the prince occasionally faces the dilemma of balancing the benefits of the ability to alter events against the possibility of exclusion, should he bring his objections to any one policy to a head. How does the ability to modify the prince’s prevailing conduct weigh against the moral onus of participation in his policies? How does one measure the element of nuance over time against the claims of absolutes in the immediate? What is the balance between the cumulative impact of moderating trends against that of a grand (and probably doomed) gesture?

How Kissinger answers these questions and his ultimate assessment of Zhou is not in doubt; he called Zhou “one of the two or three most impressive men I have ever met.” God help us. How could we have let a man who could write these things into the very highest echelons of our leadership for a period spanning over five decades?

Kissinger implies that Zhou was a reluctant participant and a moderating influence to Mao’s reign of terror. This view is hotly disputed. In his Mao Zedong and the Cultural Revolution, for example, Angang Hu argues that Zhou’s support, far from moderating the Cultural Revolution, kept it going, and that Zhou was Mao’s enabler, not his moderator.

But let us set that argument aside, because ultimately it is morally irrelevant. Assume for the sake of argument that there is some support for the proposition that Hermann Göring was a moderating influence to the most terrible excesses of the Third Reich. If Hitler had conquered Europe, would it have been appropriate for an American statesman to later praise Hermann Göring and even sympathize with him for the terrible burden of “weighing nuance against absolutes” that he had to bear. I admit the analogy is not quite apt, because Mao killed tens of millions more people than Hitler did. Still, the very idea is absurd.

The “dilemma” Kissinger poses is a false dilemma. The kinds of calculations Kissinger has in mind are morally repugnant. Indeed, they should be unthinkable. Moreover, the measuring to which Kissinger alludes is not only morally loathsome; it is also self-referentially incoherent. It is in the very nature of “absolutes” that they cannot be “measured” or “balanced” against anything else (and most especially against “nuance,” whatever that means).

Absolutes admit no calculation. When faced with the choice of whether to engage in formal cooperation with evil of unspeakable proportions, the only moral choice is to refuse to cooperate. Let us say for the sake of argument that Zhou was in fact given the choice of being Mao’s henchman, in which case “only” 60 million people would die, and refusing to be his henchman, in which case 65 million people would die. Still, the only moral choice was for him to refuse to cooperate with Mao’s evil even if more people (including Zhou himself) would die.

This is not a “train switch” scenario. Moral philosopher’s love to talk about the hapless schmo standing at a train switch. An unstoppable runaway train is coming down the track. If the schmo lets it stay on its present track, 100 people will get run over and die. If he pulls the switch and shunts the train to another track, only 50 people will die. The obvious answer to this dilemma is to pull the switch. If death is inevitable due to uncontrollable forces of nature (in this case the forces of gravity and inertia), the only moral choice is the one that leads to the fewest deaths.

How is this different from Zhou’s non-dilemma? The answer is that the Cultural Revolution was not inevitable. It resulted from the conscious choices of moral agents. If all moral agents had refused to participate, not a single person would have died, because the CR would never have happened.

Some of my readers might remember the movie Sophie’s Choice (or the novel of the same name). The eponymous choice of the movie occurred upon Sophie’s arrival at Auschwitz. A guard forced her to choose which one of her two children would be gassed and which would proceed to the labor camp. If she refused to choose, both children would be killed. What was Sophie to do? Is it not the moral choice to choose one of the children to die so that at least one may live? Sophie chooses her son to live and her daughter to die. Sophie’s choice was profoundly immoral. The only moral choice is to refuse to choose even if this means both children must die. By choosing, Sophie entered into formal cooperation with the guard’s evil. And it is always evil to engage in formal cooperation with evil. Some calculations must be unthinkable. One must never engage in profound evil even if one could somehow attempt to justify it with Kissinger’s balancing act. Fiat justitia ruat caelum (“Let justice be done though the heavens fall”)

What does this have to do with Zhou? Just this. Zhou’s choice was Sophie’s choice writ large.

Why does this all matter? I was prompted to write this post by an exchange with Mark Frank.

I wrote:

You know for a certain fact that torturing an infant for personal pleasure is evil at all places, at all times, for all people.

Mark replied:

I disagree. I don’t believe you know moral judgments as “facts” so I would say that as it stands it is false.

Mark added:

I stressed that it was because I don’t regard moral judgments as facts . . . I think they are opinions not facts.

Finally, Mark said:

I don’t know the innermost psyche of the Incas who performed child sacrifices but it seems quite possible they did it for personal pleasure and thought it was morally OK.

No Mark. You are wrong. Hugely, monstrously, horribly wrong.

It absolutely must be an objective fact that torturing an infant for personal pleasure is evil at all places, at all times, for all people or it is not a fact at all. It is a binary question. Yes/No. The only way the proposition can ever be true is if it is indeed an objective fact. The very act of suggesting that the issue is a matter of opinion as opposed to objective fact is immoral because it renders the proposition false. In other words, to even say that it is not unthinkable for the proposition to be untrue is profoundly immoral, because it is equivalent to saying the proposition is false.

Therefore, even assuming for the sake of argument that some Inca thought it was OK to torture infants for pleasure, it does not follow that his opinion on the subject is entitled to any weight whatsoever. Would we credit our hapless Inca’s views if his opinion were that 1+1=3? Of course, not. When the Inca is wrong about objective fact, we must not hesitate to reject his views categorically even if someone might accuse us of being “intolerant.” Error has no rights. The only moral position is to say that it is literally unthinkable for the proposition to ever be false.

As Zhoe’s non-dilemma was not a matter of calculation but of simple courage to do the only right thing, so too this proposition can never be a matter that could possibly vary due to circumstance, calculation or opinion. It is always true or it is never true.

It is immoral to say that the proposition “torturing an infant for personal pleasure is evil at all places, at all times, for all people” is up for grabs. Why is it evil? Because someone might believe you of course! By saying this you have undermined the “unthinkable-ness” of the converse of the proposition. And when you do that, you have opened a door that must always remain shut.

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REC @ 350: "It is possible for me to be wrong about the holocaust being evil." There you have it people. Are you listening Mark Frank? This is why it makes a difference. We are right back to the OP. Some things must be literally unthinkable. REC says that it is "thinkable" for the holocaust to have been other than evil. And that, itself, is evil. Thank you REC for demonstrating the truth of the OP. Here endeth the argument. Comments are now closed.Barry Arrington
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@skram:
JWTruthInLove, have you heard of the Flood?
I've heard of many many floods with many many causalties. Which of those was caused by God and what is your evidence? Barry-sama:
Thank you REC for demonstrating the truth of the OP. Here endeth the argument. Comments are now closed.
Why are comments closed?JWTruthInLove
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REC @ 341. REC has admitted the existence of self-evident moral truth. Again, welcome to the objectivist fold. UPDATE: Never mind. REC contradicted himself in his very next comment.Barry Arrington
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JWTruthInLove, have you heard of the Flood? :)skram
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Yes, really. I see the question remains unanswered. Could you read my posts? "You say the holocaust was evil. Is it possible for you to be wrong about that?” I could never force myself to believe that the holocaust was anything than evil. I could be wrong, and in fact, the Nazi Protestants would say I am OBJECTIVELY wrong about that.REC
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skram: It is possible that the holocaust was part of God’s plan. That's actually not an uncommon argument within apocalyptic Christianity, as the Holocaust led to the founding of modern state of Israel. Next: Armageddon.Zachriel
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Barry, repeating an ad hominem is still an ad hominem. Try again. :)skram
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skram @ 344: You say it is possible for the holocaust to have been good. You are evil. We can discount everything you say as the rantings of an evil man.Barry Arrington
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@skram:
It’s not like God didn’t kill—or command to kill—entire peoples—according to the Book.
That might be slander against God. Please provide evidence, that those parts in the "Book" were inspired by God!JWTruthInLove
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REC @ 343: Yes, really. I see the question remains unanswered.Barry Arrington
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Barry:
Since skram is a moral monster, we can safely discount everything he has to say from now on.
Demonizing your opponent is not an argument. It is a fallacy known as argumentum ad hominem. If you wish to engage in a serious argument, you'll have to explain why you think that the holocaust couldn't have been part of God's plan. Huffing and puffing isn't very convincing.skram
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"you wet yourself and dove for cover" Really?REC
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William J Murray: I’m encouraged by the fact that at least someone on that side of the argument recognizes the “huge difference”. The difference would only exist if you could show the existence of an objective morality. Otherwise, the point is moot. William J Murray: My point is that it makes no difference whether or not I can demonstrate an actual, objective moral foundation ... Then we read you incorrectly. William J Murray: when it comes to (1) recognizing the profound difference between the motivation/justification for action the two different premises provide, and (2) recognizing that subjectivist morality (the former) should be immediately recognizable as an immoral proposition (forcing others to comply with what we believe are nothing more than personal views and subjective standards). As for (1), people who are subjectivist can be as motivated as objectivists when it comes to enforcing their predispositions on others. As for (2), it's only immoral if you disagree with the imposition. If you think the behavior being imposed is moral, and if you also think imposing is morally justified in the particular case, then you wouldn't find it immoral. William J Murray: IMO, calling morality under subjectivism “morality” is either self-deception, semantic sophistry or just a bald-faced lie; there’s nothing moral, nor can there be anything moral, about forcing others to comply with what you believe to be nothing more than personal, subjective views and standards. That's just silly. If you see someone kidnapping a child, and intervene due to a strong feeling righteous indignation, you'll think it's moral, even if in philosophical reflection you determine that your morality is subjective. Barry Arrington: You say the holocaust was evil. Is it possible for you to be wrong about that? The Holocaust was evil. Barry Arrington: If your answer is “no” then I would like to welcome you to the moral objectivist side. Certainty doesn't make something objective.Zachriel
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This is a subjectivist's answer: I know because it is literally unthinkable for the holocaust to be other than evil. This, then is also my answer. It does not depend on the existence of a God.REC
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skram demonstrates that he is a moral monster by suggesting that it is possible for the holocaust to have been good. Since skram is a moral monster, we can safely discount everything he has to say from now on. REC, your turn.Barry Arrington
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Barry, you've never answered one of my questions. Like: Barry @331. How do you know you aren’t an evil man perverting the truth? Saying I didn't answer your question, at best, implies a lack of reading comprehension on your part. "You say the holocaust was evil. Is it possible for you to be wrong about that?" Yes, and the Nazi Protestants would say I am OBJECTIVELY wrong about that.REC
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REC:
I’m not using the language of objective morality-I am critiquing its use.
You are denying that it exists while acting as if it exists.Barry Arrington
February 8, 2015
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I am no REC, but I can give my own answer. It is possible that the holocaust was part of God's plan. God is infinitely good, so whatever is part of his plan cannot be evil by definition. It's not like God didn't kill—or command to kill—entire peoples—according to the Book.skram
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REC, When I asked you a tough question you wet yourself and dove for cover. I am not a coward, I will face yours head on. Here is your question: "How do you know you aren’t an evil man perverting the truth?" I know because it is literally unthinkable for the holocaust to be other than evil.Barry Arrington
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REC @ 333. You dodged my question. I knew you would. Refusing to answer the question is answer enough. Thanks for playing. If you want to continue to play I will ask it again: You say the holocaust was evil. Is it possible for you to be wrong about that?Barry Arrington
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MF @ 325:
What I would actually say is something on the lines of – you have a done terrible thing because of the horrendous human suffering you have created (and a list of other things).
Yes, I said you would say something similar to that. And to be consistent with the other things you have said in this thread, you would also have to say:
but God help me (not that there is a God to help me; it’s a figure of speech you understand), there is nothing and no one to arbitrate our difference if you have a different opinion. Your opinion that the holocaust is a good thing is, in that sense, exactly equal to mine.
Mark, mere contradiction is not argument. If this statement is inconsistent with what you've argued, show me how.
How many more times do I have to remind you that subjective opinions can have reasons and be passionate and confident?
I have never denied you have been passionate and confident. I don't know why you think I've denied that. But what a person holding a subjective opinion cannot have is any basis for arbitrating between his and a conflicting subjective opinion. If this is not so, please tell me why it is not so.Barry Arrington
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I'm not using the language of objective morality-I am critiquing its use. The Nazi's objectively thought they were right. I think that thought is a subjective interpretation of a non-existent objective order. I'm not sure what you mean by 'fallible?' Not God-given? I think my view that the Nazis were wrong is more consistent with the beliefs and desires of most of humanity. But not all of it at all times. Sadly.REC
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Barry @331. How do you know you aren't an evil man perverting the truth? Welcome to the subjectivist side.REC
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REC @ 329. Evil men perverted the truth. And that proves what again? Again, you insist on using the language of objective morality even though you have no logical right to do so given your premises. As WJM has been saying over and over and over, you act as if objective morality is true even while claiming it is false. Or are you really going to say, with Mark Frank, that the only difference between your view and the Nazis' view is a difference between your fallible opinion and their fallible opinion? You say the holocaust was evil. Is it possible for you to be wrong about that? If your answer is "no" then I would like to welcome you to the moral objectivist side.Barry Arrington
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Zachriel said.
Sure there’s a huge difference. The problem is you can’t show the existence of objective morality, meaning a moral universe that exists independent of human sensibility.
I'm encouraged by the fact that at least someone on that side of the argument recognizes the "huge difference". My point is that it makes no difference whether or not I can demonstrate an actual, objective moral foundation when it comes to (1) recognizing the profound difference between the motivation/justification for action the two different premises provide, and (2) recognizing that subjectivist morality (the former) should be immediately recognizable as an immoral proposition (forcing others to comply with what we believe are nothing more than personal views and subjective standards). IMO, calling morality under subjectivism "morality" is either self-deception, semantic sophistry or just a bald-faced lie; there's nothing moral, nor can there be anything moral, about forcing others to comply with what you believe to be nothing more than personal, subjective views and standards.William J Murray
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I think it is interesting Barry's hypothetical conversations with a Nazi often have both sides speaking in subjective terms. Nazis so often sought to establish objective moral proof of their actions, including the very same source that Barry claims repudiates them: "During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center." http://www.amazon.com/The-Aryan-Jesus-Christian-Theologians/dp/0691148058 The view that all that seems good in the world is due to objective morality and all that is bad comes from subjective ethics is quite refuted by the world around us.REC
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BA, that lesson is literally written into my name, with my family's martyred blood. There is a reason why my homeland's parliament stands on a certain former house's site and literally has my name over the door, for I am a name-bearer. But then the lessons of history were bought with blood and tears. If we reject or distort or treat them lightly, we doom ourselves to pay the same price again, too often over and over again. And right now that is what I feel about our whole civilisation and its patent march of willfully blind folly. Which, is reflected in too much of the above. KFkairosfocus
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Mark Frank
(I don’t understand the reference to bi—conditional. There is no logical “and” that I can detect in what I wrote.)
Oh please, Mark. To say "it is my view, therefore, it is someone's view" is correct. To reverse it and say "it is someone's view, therefore it is "my view," is incorrect. When I explained to you that you were using (at least) two definitions for morality [a] "it is moral in someone's view," and [b] "It is moral in my view" you responded by saying "Am I not a person?" as if "someone's" person's view is synonymous with "my view." Obviously, that is illogical. So far, you have at least three definitions of moral: "moral in my view," "moral in someone's view," and "moral in some group's view." Will Mark's real definition of moral please stand up.
Meanwhile you continue to evade the analogy of “beautiful” which should clear up all this definition nonsense.
So you think that it is nonsense to ask a subjectivist to define his terms, especially a subjectivist who has provided three different and incompatible definitions of "morality?" That's really interesting--and understandable. The last thing an equivocating subjectivist wants to do is define his terms. If you don't know what you mean by "moral," then jumping over to the word "beautiful" will not help you. Once you define both terms (and stay with those definitions) we might have a discussion. You have also said, on other occasions, that some things are "immoral" for everyone, which of course adds still more confusion to your claims.StephenB
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5MM
My question for the subjectivist is. What do you make of the times when the moral battle is not with other people but within yourself?
It means that you have are having an inner struggle about what your subjective opinion is - just as one has an internal debate and changes one's mind about whether a novel is really good or picture beautiful.Mark Frank
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#323 BA
Yes, in the short run the stronger prevails in both. But in the subjectivist view, the stronger prevails because his position IS the moral position.
Uh? The stronger prevails because is the stronger.
In the objectivist view, truth exists whether or not it is trammeled under foot in any particular instance. The subjectivist position tells us “there is no truth” about moral issues to prevail.
Sure
MF says to the Nazi who laments the failure of the holocaust: “In my humble opinion, you are wrong, but God help me (not that there is a God to help me; it’s a figure of speech you understand), there is nothing and no one to arbitrate our difference if you have a different opinion. Your opinion that the holocaust is a good thing is, in that sense, exactly equal to mine.”
That’s just putting words into my mouth. What I would actually say is something on the lines of – you have a done terrible thing because of the horrendous human suffering you have created (and a list of other things). How many more times do I have to remind you that subjective opinions can have reasons and be passionate and confident?
Barry says, if I were the only person on earth who believed the holocaust was evil, I would be right and everyone else would be wrong.
And the Nazi says “You have made a mistake.”
Surely you don’t believe the difference makes no difference.
Not really. What would count would not be whether Barry or I thought they were objective or subjective. What would count would be the strength and persuasiveness of the reasons we presented. But in any case this is a discussion about the supposed consequences of objectivism/subjectivism. It is nothing to do with which one is correct.Mark Frank
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