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Will AI merge with evolution to shatter human exceptionalism?

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Yes, says humanist (and transhumanist) Peter Clarke:

The fact that humans are different from other animals is a distinction of degree, not of kind. Once we properly orient ourselves on the evolutionary tree, it becomes clear that we can learn more about ourselves by focusing on our similarities with other animals than by perpetuating the myth that we’re categorically unique. “Will AI shatter human exceptionalism?” at Mind Matters

Hmmm. If humans are not “categorically unique,” why are we having this conversation?

The advantage of adding talk of evolution to transhumanism is that it turns a perennial tale of immortality just out of reach into a chronicle of inevitable ascent, like the fabled “Ascent of Man.” More: at Mind Matters

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2 Replies to “Will AI merge with evolution to shatter human exceptionalism?

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    AaronS1978 says:

    “Hmmm. If humans are not “categorically unique,” why are we having this conversation?“

    I could not of said that better myself

    I was actually breaking this down just the other day to about human exceptionalism

    One of my largest and biggest issues with this idea that we are not above the creatures around us is the idea that we can be similar to them and that it is only a matter of degree

    The problem is the degree and the level of the degree has placed us in a category far above them

    To borrow a quote from marvel comics involving a mutant called the Apocalypse, when Trask finds out that Apocalypse is more than just a scientist he shouts out “YOU ARE ONE OF THEM, YOU’RE A MUTANT!” Apocalypse reply was as such
    “A mutant you say?” “No I’m no mutant” “For I’m as far above a mutant as a mutant is far above you”

    The same is like the comparison of us to animals. Many animals share many primitive traits that we have and vice a versa however it does show that we experience these things on a higher degree than they do a much higher degree

    To say that we are not in a category above them is to foolishly be blind to the fact that we are the only species that’s both having this conversation and probably doing so on a device that no species on this planet other than ourselves can comprehend

    We are the only species that processes abstracts and are capable of being aware of such things like quantum physics.

    We are the only species that is purposely left the planet. Not through instinct but through ingenuity

    We are the only species that creates music language in art

    And to put a further degree even on that we are the only species that conditions and teaches other species to do the same

    Our morals spill into the animal kingdom and even change other species

    A plant might harness the power of the sun through photosynthesis but not only have we copied and done similar but we have harness the power of nuclear energy as well and have used it to power cities as well as weaponized it.

    As I am using currently a microphone to translate what I am saying into text on a device that we created from both sand, metal, and plastic, This trans humanist believes that we are nothing more than a degree above these creatures. He is a fool as he’s depending also on our technology to make him immortal, The same technology that can only be produced by the one species on this planet the human that he deems to be no more different than another animal

    We are the only species that learns from all other species, we are the only species that has found out how to genetically engineer all other species, we perceive things that no other species can perceive, and we have created things that no other species can create and there is no species on this planet that we cannot mimic. We are not different by degree we are different by magnitude and it is a foolish foolish thing to tell the creature that decides what the Apex is in this world that it is nothing more than a stupid animal as we are the ones that write the definition and dictate the degree of all other creatures and their cognitive abilities and no species on this planet does that

    So if this guy reads this comment I hope he understands that he is telling the most powerful animal on this planet, which could easily kill everything else off in the blink of an eye with a touch of a button, that we are nothing more than a dumb animal while he waits for us to create technology that will help him become immortal. The only dumb animal is him.

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    bornagain77 says:

    AaronS1978 at 1. Nicely said.

    as to Peter’s quote:

    “Human exceptionalism posits that humans are categorically unlike, and fundamentally better than, any other animal. It’s not an explicitly religious claim, but it’s very close to one. In practical terms, it often functions as shorthand for we are special because we are created in God’s image.
    From an evolutionary perspective, this is preposterous. The fact that humans are different from other animals is a distinction of degree, not of kind. Once we properly orient ourselves on the evolutionary tree, it becomes clear that we can learn more about ourselves by focusing on our similarities with other animals than by perpetuating the myth that we’re categorically unique.”
    PETER CLARKE, “TRANSHUMANISM AND THE DEATH OF HUMAN EXCEPTIONALISM” AT AREO?

    Peter is referring to Charles Darwin’s “of degree not of kind’ quote that challenged the biblical claim for God making the animals according to their kind and then God making mankind in His image.

    “Nevertheless the difference in mind between man and the higher animals, great as it is, certainly is one of degree and not of kind.”
    – Charles Darwin
    http://www.pigeon.psy.tufts.ed.....arwin1.htm

    Genesis 1: 25-26
    God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
    Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    Peter Clarke wants to “properly orient ourselves on the evolutionary tree” in order to disabuse ourselves of the ‘preposterous’ notion that we are made in the image of God.

    There are a few small problems for Peter Clarke and other Darwinists who are offended that they may be made in God’s image.

    Small problem number 1, only in the imagination of man is there any scientific evidence that man evolved from some ape-like creature. For instance, Darwinists have never changed one kind of bacteria into another kind of bacteria, much less have they ever changed one kind of animal into another kind of animal.

    In the following paper, Alan H. Linton – emeritus professor of bacteriology, states that ‘Bacteria are ideal for this kind of study, But throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another,,, Since there is no evidence for species changes between the simplest forms of unicellular life, it is not surprising that there is no evidence for evolution from prokaryotic to eukaryotic cells, let alone throughout the whole array of higher multicellular organisms.’

    Scant search for the Maker – 2001
    Excerpt: But where is the experimental evidence? None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another. Bacteria, the simplest form of independent life, are ideal for this kind of study, with generation times of 20 to 30 minutes, and populations achieved after 18 hours. But throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another, in spite of the fact that populations have been exposed to potent chemical and physical mutagens and that, uniquely, bacteria possess extrachromosomal, transmissible plasmids. Since there is no evidence for species changes between the simplest forms of unicellular life, it is not surprising that there is no evidence for evolution from prokaryotic to eukaryotic cells, let alone throughout the whole array of higher multicellular organisms.
    – Alan H. Linton – emeritus professor of bacteriology, University of Bristol.
    http://www.timeshighereducatio.....ode=159282

    Small problem number 2, as AaronS1978 pointed out in post 1, the Darwinian belief that there is not something “categorically unique” about man is sheer intellectual blindness. I want to grab Peter Clarke and other Darwinists by the collar and shout, “Look around you man!”. To echo AaronS1978’s point, whenever chimps build rockets to send other chimps to the moon and back, then perhaps Peter Clarke and other Darwinists may have a point. Until then, to say that there is not something ‘categorically unique’ about mankind when compared to other animals is simply insane. As Dr. Michel Egnor pointed out, intellectually speaking “We are more different from apes than apes are from viruses.”

    The Fundamental Difference Between Humans and Nonhuman Animals – Michael Egnor – November 5, 2015
    our intellect — our ability to think abstractly — is a wholly immaterial power, and our will that acts in accordance with our intellect is an immaterial power. Our intellect and our will depend on matter for their ordinary function, in the sense that they depend upon perception and imagination and memory, but they are not themselves made of matter. It is in our ability to think abstractly that we differ from apes. It is a radical difference — an immeasurable qualitative difference, not a quantitative difference.
    We are more different from apes than apes are from viruses. Our difference is a metaphysical chasm.
    https://evolutionnews.org/2015/11/the_fundamental_2/

    And although the purported evidence for human evolution is far more illusory, even deceptive, than most people realize, it is interesting to note exactly where leading Darwinists themselves admit that they have no clue how evolution could have produced a particular trait in humans.

    Leading Evolutionary Scientists Admit We Have No Evolutionary Explanation of Human Language – December 19, 2014
    Excerpt: Understanding the evolution of language requires evidence regarding origins and processes that led to change. In the last 40 years, there has been an explosion of research on this problem as well as a sense that considerable progress has been made. We argue instead that the richness of ideas is accompanied by a poverty of evidence, with essentially no explanation of how and why our linguistic computations and representations evolved.,,,
    (Marc Hauser, Charles Yang, Robert Berwick, Ian Tattersall, Michael J. Ryan, Jeffrey Watumull, Noam Chomsky and Richard C. Lewontin, “The mystery of language evolution,” Frontiers in Psychology, Vol 5:401 (May 7, 2014).)
    Casey Luskin added: “It’s difficult to imagine much stronger words from a more prestigious collection of experts.”
    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2.....92141.html

    Tom Wolfe was so taken aback by this honest confession by leading Darwinists that he wrote a book on the subject. Wolfe provided a précis of his argument:

    “Speech is not one of man’s several unique attributes — speech is the attribute of all attributes!”
    – Wolfe

    “Speech is 95 percent plus of what lifts man above animal! Physically, man is a sad case. His teeth, including his incisors, which he calls eyeteeth, are baby-size and can barely penetrate the skin of a too-green apple. His claws can’t do anything but scratch him where he itches. His stringy-ligament body makes him a weakling compared to all the animals his size. Animals his size? In hand-to-paw, hand-to-claw, or hand-to-incisor combat, any animal his size would have him for lunch. Yet man owns or controls them all, every animal that exists, thanks to his superpower: speech.”
    —Tom Wolfe, in the introduction to his book, The Kingdom of Speech

    That humans should master the planet due his unique ability to communicate information is completely contrary to the ‘survival of the fittest’ thinking that undergirds Darwinian thought. i.e. Although humans are fairly defenseless creatures in the wild compared to other creatures, such as lions, bears, and sharks, etc.., nonetheless, humans have, completely contrary to Darwinian ‘survival of the fittest’ thinking, managed to become masters of the planet, not by brute force, but simply by our unique ability to communicate information and, more specifically, infuse information into material substrates in order to create, i.e. intelligently design, objects that are extremely useful for our defense, basic survival in procuring food, furtherance of our knowledge, and also simply for our pleasure.

    What is more interesting still about the fact that humans have a unique ability to understand and create information, and have come to dominate the world through the ‘top-down’ infusion of information into material substrates, is the fact that, due to advances in science, both the universe and life itself, are now found to be ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis.

    Vlatko Vedral, who is a Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford, and is a recognized leader in the field of quantum mechanics, states,

    “The most fundamental definition of reality is not matter or energy, but information–and it is the processing of information that lies at the root of all physical, biological, economic, and social phenomena.”
    Vlatko Vedral – Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford, and CQT (Centre for Quantum Technologies) at the National University of Singapore, and a Fellow of Wolfson College

    It is hard to imagine a more convincing proof that we are made ‘in the image of God’, than finding both the universe and life itself are ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis, and that we, of all the creatures on earth, uniquely possess an ability to understand and create information, and, moreover, have come to ‘master the planet’ precisely because of our ability infuse information into material substrates.

    Perhaps a more convincing evidence that we are made in the image of God could be if God Himself became a man, defeated death on a cross, and then rose from the dead to prove that He was indeed God.

    That just so happens to be precisely the claim of Christianity. A claim that now finds strong support from, of all places, science itself.

    Moreover, allowing the Agent causality of God ‘back’ into physics, as the Christian founders of modern science originally envisioned, and as quantum mechanics itself now empirically demands (with the closing of the free will loop hole), provides a very plausible resolution for the much sought after ‘theory of everything’ in that Christ’s resurrection from the dead provides an empirically backed reconciliation, via the Shroud of Turin, between quantum mechanics and general relativity into that quote unquote ‘Theory of Everything”
    https://uncommondescent.com/philosophy/neurosurgeon-asks-do-we-have-free-will-or-not/#comment-673312

    (February 19, 2019) To support Isabel Piczek’s claim that the Shroud of Turin does indeed reveal a true ‘event horizon’, the following study states that ‘The bottom part of the cloth (containing the dorsal image) would have born all the weight of the man’s supine body, yet the dorsal image is not encoded with a greater amount of intensity than the frontal image.’,,,
    Moreover, besides gravity being dealt with, the shroud also gives us evidence that Quantum Mechanics was dealt with. In the following paper, it was found that it was not possible to describe the image formation on the Shroud in classical terms but they found it necessary to describe the formation of the image on the Shroud in discrete quantum terms.
    https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/experiment-quantum-particles-can-violate-the-mathematical-pigeonhole-principle/#comment-673179

    Turin Shroud Hologram Reveals The Words “The Lamb”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tmka1l8GAQ

    Verses:

    Colossians 1:15-20
    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

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