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Physicist suggests: “Onion test” for junk DNA is challenge to Darwinism, not ID

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Further to Junk DNA hires a PR firm (by the time you can’t tell the difference between Darwin’s elite followers and his trolls, you know something is happening):

Dr Sheldon
Rob Sheldon

Rob Sheldon writes to say,

There may be some very good reasons for onions to have large genomes.

Let’s start with an analogy. My son says the computer game “Starcraft” will play on just about any old piece of computer hardware in the house. However, he tells me, when you go to download the game from the website, it takes up 15 GBytes of space. Evidently, in order to be compatible with older hardware, it has to use less CPU power–since the older machines were not as powerful. Much if not most of the CPU processing is used on graphics, and to get the graphics to work on older machines, it had to be nearly uncompressed, hence the 15 GBytes of memory required. Newer game can achieve the same level of graphics in much less space, but they require fancier graphics boards with more GPU (graphical processing power).

So back to the lowly onion. The DNA is software. The proteins are the video feed. The nucleus is the CPU. Humans have highly complex coding/decoding machinery in the nucleus. When mathematical analysis is performed on human DNA, it is found to have a fractal information dimension greater than 3 (papers available upon request)–indicating that at least 3 different codes are simultaneously present. This is a number bigger than chimpanzees, whose DNA is not so compressed, and if I recall correctly, come in around 2.5 or so in fractal dimensions. The paper did not analyze onions, but I think it is safe bet that the fractal dimension is < 2.0.

What does this changing dimension mean for DNA size? Well the information in DNA is proportional to the volume of phase space, so if humans have dimension 3.0, then the volume ~ (3.2GBytes)^3 ==> 27 GBytes. This dwarfs the 15GBytes of the onion, but then I don’t know the fractal dimensionality of onions.

Now admittedly, the papers don’t do the entire genome, they look at little subsets, so I may be generalizing too much to say that I know the dimension of information packing. But if the genome had junk DNA in it, it would drive the number lower, not higher, because junk DNA is uncorrelated to everything else.

This is categorically what is NOT found, and so even without the ENCODE results, it is manifestly obvious that human DNA is not mostly junk.

But if DNA is compressed and packed so efficiently in humans, why is it not packed that way in onions?

One paper that was published 3 years ago or so, suggested that embryonic development from ovum to embryo was driven by a clock. As the transcriptase zipped along the DNA, proteins were made successively by the cell, and the ordering and timing of the proteins were such as to drive the embryogenesis and development. In other words, the spatial location of the DNA was converted into temporal development of the organism. Then if an organism needed to prolong a stage of embryogenesis, the most direct way would involve adding more DNA. No extra machinery is needed, no added complications and regulators, just another 1GByte of DNA to transcribe and the necessary 30 minutes will be added to the development.

Crude, but why do that at such a high cost to the genome of every cell?

Well, perhaps there is a plant virus that hijacks the “clock” to crank out tumors. This onion solution would then be impervious to such a virus. It might even give it an “evolutionary advantage”.

Then the “Onion Test” is not a Darwinian challenge to ID, but an ID challenge to Darwinian imagination. Why don’t they take their own medicine: if the junk isn’t functional why doesn’t it get selected out?

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Onions don't really have any food value but they add incredible flavour to food, perhaps God knew how much we where going to need flavouring to make the other bland nutritious foods more edible.... Thus a plant that is hardy against EVERYTHING...... so that we can enjoy a grand hamburger! See I can also tell plausible just so stories, but I might even be right! Thank God for the onion atheists!Andre
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Just on theoretical grounds there is no reason to assume an onion is simpler than a human. Humans can adapt their environment to suit their needs. Onions have to adapt themselves to the environment. They may have many different genes to handle different environmental conditions, nutrients in the soil, moisture in the soil, parasites, competing plants, etc etc. Get the opinion of a botanist not a physicist.Jim Smith
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Hi Bob, we would be interested in seeing an explanation of how unguided evolution can produce onions and genomes.Joe
March 10, 2015
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Evolutionism can't explain onions nor DNA. Perhaps evolutionary biologists should focus on that.Joe
March 10, 2015
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One paper that was published 3 years ago or so, suggested that embryonic development from ovum to embryo was driven by a clock.
I'd be interested to see a reference for this. I'd also be interested in seeing an explanation of why a fractal information dimension if n means that there are at least n codes present. It seems a strange inference to me.Bob O'H
March 10, 2015
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Maybe they think it's because physics is senior to biology. Anyway, you can challenge evolution because it makes falsifiable predictions. ID is just the pseudoscientific assertion of magic.CHartsil
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Why is it that physicists (and engineers) are so much more likely than others to offer opinions on subjects they know nothing about, without bothering to do any even the most rudimentary research?wd400
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