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Dr Raoult Roars — new articles on findings and issues about HCQ + Cocktails for Covid-19

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IHU- Méditerranée Infection, Marseille, is a significant French research institute that has continued its work on CV 19. For the record, here are excerpts from some recent work, headlined from threads where such would be buried:

EXH 1: >>COVID-IHU #15

Version 1 du 27 Mai 2020
Early diagnosis and management of COVID-19 patients: a real-life cohort study of 3,737 patients, Marseille, France

Abstract

Background:
In our institute in Marseille, France, we proposed early and massive screening for coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). Hospitalization and early treatment with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ-AZ) was proposed for the positive cases.

Methods:
We retrospectively report the clinical management of 3,737 patients, including 3,054 (81.7%) treated with HCQ-AZ for at least three days and 683 (18.3%) patients treated with other methods (“others”). Outcomes were death, transfer to the intensive care unit (ICU), ? 10 days of hospitalization and viral shedding.

Results:
By testing 101,522 samples by polymerase chain reaction (PCR) from 65,993 individuals, we diagnosed 6,836 patients (10.4%), including 3,737 included in our cohort. The mean age was 45 (sd 17) years, 45% were male, and the fatality rate was 0.9%. We performed 2,065 low-dose computed tomography (CT) scans highlighting lung lesions in 581 of the 933 (62%) patients with minimal clinical symptoms (NEWS score = 0). A discrepancy between spontaneous dyspnoea, hypoxemia and lung lesions was observed. Clinical factors (age, comorbidities, NEWS-2 score), biological factors (lymphopenia; eosinopenia; decrease in blood zinc; and increase in D-dimers, lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), creatinine phosphokinase (CPK), and c-reactive protein (CRP)) and moderate and severe lesions detected in low-dose CT scans were associated with poor clinical outcome. Treatment with HCQ-AZ was associated with a decreased risk of transfer to the ICU or death (HR 0.19 0.12-0.29), decreased risk of hospitalization ?10 days (odds ratios 95% CI 0.37 0.26-0.51) and shorter duration of viral shedding (time to negative PCR: HR 1.27 1.16-1.39). QTc prolongation (>60 ms) was observed in 25 patients (0.67%) leading to the cessation of treatment in 3 cases. No cases of torsade de pointe or sudden death were observed.

Conclusion
Early diagnosis, early isolation and early treatment with at least 3 days of HCQ-AZ result in a significantly better clinical outcome and contagiosity in patients with COVID-19 than other treatments. Long-term follow-up to screen for fibrosis will be the next challenge in the management of COVID-19.>>

EXH 2: >>Adjusting series of patients for trial comparisons for COVID –
19 treatments

Author list :
3Audrey GIRAUD -GATINEAU1,2,3,4 (PhD student); Jean Christophe LAGIER 1,4,5 (MD); 4 Yolande OBADIA 1
(MD); Hervé CHAUDET 1,2,3 (MD); Didier RAOULT 1,5* (MD)

Abstract:

Background
: SARS – COV-2 has emerged and spread around the world since December 2019. Studies initiated in Marseille by our hospital centre have suggested significant clinical effectiveness of treatment by combining hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin (HCQ+AZ). However, due to the
urgency of responding to the pandemic, they were not obtained through randomized controlled trials. Alternative assessment methods are therefore needed.

Methods:
We compared our data in silico with those published by two studies comparing 32 other antiviral drugs. For this purpose, random sampling was performed in our cohort to 33 obtain similar groups for disease severity, gender, age and comorbidities associated with 34 chronic diseases with patients included in the remdesivir and lopinavir-ritonavir trials.

Findings:
Dual HCQ+AZ therapy was associated with 3 times fewer deaths than
similar 37groups treated either with lopinavir-ritonavir(9% vs 20%, p-value = 0·03) or standard care 38 (8% vs 25·2%, p-value = 0·001). Compared with patients included in the remdesivir
study by 39 Wang et al., we also showed a significant difference in the clinical outcome (proportion of 40cured patients with negative viral load) in favour of HCQ+AZ (77.8% versus 58·2% p = 0·0001). 42 43

Interpretation:
Although comparison of HCQ+AZ with other antiviral drugs has limitations 44due to aggregated data, this study provides additional evidence showing that HCQ+AZ should 45 be the systematic treatment of choice after diagnosis of COVID -19 -positive cases. 46 47

Funding:
This work was supported by the French Government under the “Investments for theFuture” programme managed by the National Agency for Research (ANR), Méditerranée- Infection 10-
IAHU – 03 , and was also supported by Région Provence Alpes Côte d’Azur and European funding FEDER PRIMMI (Fonds Européen de Développement Régional -51 Plateformes de Recherche et d’Innovation Mutualisées Méditerranée Infection)>>

EXH 3: >>Assay
Randomised Controlled Trials during epidemic

Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger, Didier Raoult
Aix Marseille Université, IRD, MEPHI, VITROME,
ORS Paca, IHU-Méditerranée Infection, Marseille,
France

In epidemics there is an urgent need for new knowledge on drug efficacy to help policymakers fight the crisis. Yet the best research methodology to do this is a matter of de bate, write Philippe Brouqui, Pierre Verger and Didier Raoult .

The outbreak of an emerging infectious agent needs the rapid involvement of research to bring new knowledge. Past experience with Ebola virus outbreaks and, more recently SARS-CoV 2, have raised a question over the place of randomised controlled trials (RCTs) as the methodology of choice to
answer clinical questions in an novel epidemic situation. Drug safety and effectiveness is a long process which can take years. For antimicrobials, just 25% of drugs submitted to phase 1 succeed to Phase 3 and further licensing (1). This is why, in an epidemic, drug repurposing is often looked at, because drug toxicity has already been evaluated (2).

An RCT isdesigned to attempt to reduce bias, particularly in trials evaluating new drugs. The principle is to random assign volunteers into two or more treatment options and then compare them against a measured outcome. As RCTs reduce causality and spurious bias, they are considered to be the most reliable form of scientific evidence. For these reasons, they are required for market authorisation of a new pharmaceutical drug and cited by healthcare policies as a mandatory means for decision -making about treatments.

When gold standard becomes unethical

In emerging disease outbreaks, there is an urgent lack of treatments for the new pathogen. When a particular therapeutic option is supported by scientifically demonstrated efficacy in vitro and or in animal model, and supported further by clinical case reports and/or pilot series in humans, it is ethically difficult to argue that the data still needs to be confirmed in an RCT before it can be made available to patients. Especially if it seems “obvious” that control (untreated) subjects will have poorer outcomes than those receiving treatment. As one study mocked, there would be few volunteers for the placebo group in an RCT on the parachute’s effectiveness in avoiding death by jumping out of an airplane, unless the jump had an average height of 0.6 m (3).

When even imperfect scientific data show a particularly obvious effect, it is no longer ethical to perform an RCT since it forces patients to accept either not to be treated (in the control arm), or to be treated with a molecule known to be effective. Consider the advent of penicillin. It took five
patients before Sir Edward Abraham could definitively demonstrate that penicillin saved 100% of patients with staphylococcus or streptococcus infections. Nobody today would dare to test the efficacy of penicillin on pneumococcal pneumonia compared to placebo . . . >>

Food for thought, especially given the fiasco of the seemingly decisive Lancet paper which then had to be withdrawn. The remarks on the gold standard fallacies are particularly significant.

The underlying issue is that selective hyperskepticism is leading to ignoring of cumulatively adequate but somehow unwelcome findings, tracing to ethical weaknesses including the error of imagining skepticism an intellectual virtue and using it to substitute for prudence. We need to restore that due balance to our reasoning and decision-making.

A useful brief summary on prudence is:

Prudence is the virtue that disposes practical reason to discern our true good in every circumstance and to choose the right means of achieving it; “the prudent man looks where he is going.”65 “Keep sane and sober for your prayers.”66 Prudence is “right reason in action,” writes St. Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle.67 It is not to be confused with timidity or fear, nor with duplicity or dissimulation. It is called auriga virtutum (the charioteer of the virtues); it guides the other virtues by setting rule and measure. It is prudence that immediately guides the judgment of conscience. The prudent man determines and directs his conduct in accordance with this judgment. With the help of this virtue we apply moral principles to particular cases without error and overcome doubts about the good to achieve and the evil to avoid.

Further food for thought, on seven indicative, inescapable first duties of responsible reason: to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so to fairness and justice, etc. . END

Comments
ET Umm, YOU brought it up in a discussion on VIRUSES. I just exposed you for that. Now you and the other desperate losers want to try to twist it. You assumed the plague was caused by a virus. It’s really clear from reading the thread. You made a mistake. Own up to it. :JVL
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Umm, YOU brought it up in a discussion on VIRUSES. I just exposed you for that. Now you and the other desperate losers want to try to twist it.ET
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ET: What? You are the one who brought it up in a discussion n VIRUSES? I was the one busting your chops for doing so. I’m not the one who thought the plague was caused by a virus. I’d suggest being more careful next time. I made a comment about the plague. You didn’t know it wasn’t caused by a virus. You assumed it was caused by a virus. You made a mistake. Perhaps you should just own up to that.JVL
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What? You are the one who brought it up in a discussion n VIRUSES? I was the one busting your chops for doing so.ET
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ET: Wow, way to double-down on your belligerence. I was following along. That is why I said what I did. I won’t think poorly of you because you didn’t know the plague was not caused by a virus. I’m sure that’s a common mistake.JVL
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Wow, way to double-down on your belligerence. I was following along. That is why I said what I did.ET
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ET: Yes, JVL, the conversation was about VIRUSES. So clearly you have other issues. No one else had trouble following along when I started talking about pathogens in general. Oh well.JVL
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Brazil has a couple Dr. Zelenko's. Apparently northern Brazil is doing much better than the richer southern part of Brazil in treating the virus. Though the poorer areas are being hit hard. They are using HCQ, Azithromycin and zinc. I wonder where they got that. The problems are political just as in the US and a lot of Europe. The doctor says their protocol came from Spain as they started to find out what was working there. Interview 1 - https://bit.ly/2VIXG44 Interview 2 - https://bit.ly/3glLXjV Interview 3 - https://bit.ly/2VI3ueh Brazil which had a tough start seems to be on a much better path. Is it due to HCQ, Azithromycin and zinc? They fired the head of medicine for the country who was against HCQ.jerry
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Jerry, at last! I see, a preprint: >>COVID-19 Outpatients – Early Risk-Stratified Treatment with Zinc Plus Low Dose Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin: A Retrospective Case Series Study Martin Scholz * , Roland Derwand , Vladimir Zelenko Version 1 : Received: 30 June 2020 / Approved: 3 July 2020 / Online: 3 July 2020 (08:52:22 CEST) How to cite: Scholz, M.; Derwand, R.; Zelenko, V. COVID-19 Outpatients – Early Risk-Stratified Treatment with Zinc Plus Low Dose Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin: A Retrospective Case Series Study. Preprints 2020, 2020070025 (doi: 10.20944/preprints202007.0025.v1).>> From the pdf: >>As of June, 2020, diagnosis and treatment of COVID-19 have been almost exclusively studied from an inpatient perspective, including intensive care with mechanical ventilation. Only one study has described characteristics and key health outcomes of COVID-19 diagnosed patients in an outpatient setting. 3 This is surprising as primary care physicians see COVID-19 patients often first. They could play a critical role in early diagnosis, treatment, and management of disease progression and virus spread. This assumption is supported by the established principle in medicine that speed of eradication is linked to the outcome of life-threatening infections. 4 [--> The U vs L model: fast descending arm, catch it early so you don't flatline.] The early clinical phase of COVID-19 has not been the focus of research until today even though timing of antiviral treatment seems to be critical. 5 The more optimal window for therapeutic intervention is before the infection spreads from upper to lower respiratory tract and before the severe inflammatory reactions. 6 Therefore, diagnosis and treatment of COVID-19 outpatients as early as possible, even based on clinical diagnosis only, may have been an underestimated first step to slow down or even stop the pandemic more effectively. [--> academic understatement] Based on clinical application principles of antiviral therapies, as demonstrated in the case of influenza A, 7 antiviral treatments should be used early in the course of infection. Due to the lack of vaccines as well as SARS-CoV-2 specific therapies, the proposed use of repurposed antiviral drugs remains a valid practical consideration. 8 One of the most controversial drugs during the current SARS-CoV-2 pandemic is the well-known oral antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), routinely used in the treatment of autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis or lupus. 9 10 HCQ is currently listed as an essential medication for lupus by the World Health Organization (WHO) 11 . With more than 5.6 million prescriptions in the United States, HCQ was the 128th most commonly prescribed medication in 2017. 12 In the meantime, first observational studies concluding beneficial therapeutic effects of HCQ as monotherapy or in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin were reported just a few weeks after the start of the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak. 13 All studies that used HCQ with rather contradictory results were done with hospitalized and often sicker patients 13-16 and one publication was recently withdrawn. 17 18 As of June 2020, no studies with COVID-19 outpatients treated with HCQ at an early stage of the disease have been reported. Antiviral effects of HCQ are well-documented. 19 It is also known that chloroquine and probably HCQ have zinc ionophore characteristics, increasing intracellular zinc concentrations. 20 Zinc itself is able to inhibit coronavirus RNA-dependent RNA polymerase activity (RdRp). 21 It has been hypothesized that zinc may enhance the efficacy of HCQ in treating COVID-19 patients. 22 The first clinical trial results confirming this hypothesis were recently published as preprint. 23 Nevertheless, many studies with HCQ in monotherapy or in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin have been inconclusive so far. 13-16 In all of these studies, HCQ was used later than 5 days after onset of symptoms when hospitalized patients most likely had already progressed to stage II or III of the disease. 6 Regardless of the established antiviral effects of zinc and that many COVID-19 patients are prone to zinc deficiencies, dependent on comorbidities and drug treatments, 22 none of these studies were designed to include zinc supplementation as combination treatment. This first retrospective case series study with COVID-19 outpatients was done to show whether a) a simple to perform outpatient risk stratification might allow for rapid treatment decision shortly after onset of symptoms, and b) whether the triple 5-day therapy with zinc, low dose HCQ, and azithromycin might result in less hospitalizations and less fatalities compared with relevant public reference data of untreated patients. [pp. 4 - 5]>> Then: >>In the treatment group 4 of 141 patients were hospitalized, which was significantly less than in the untreated group with 58 of 377 patients (15.4%), (fig 2.), (OR 0.16; [95% CI, 0.06 to 0.5]; p> Note on safety: >>In general, the triple therapy with zinc, low dose HCQ, and azithromycin was well tolerated. After initiation of treatment 30 of 141 patients (21%) reported weakness, 20 (14%) nausea, 15 (11%) diarrhea, and 2 (1%) rash (table 8). No patient reported palpitations or any cardiac side effect. [p. 12]>> This now goes with the Raoult and India results. KFkairosfocus
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Yes, JVL, the conversation was about VIRUSES. So clearly you have other issues.ET
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F/N: Some sobering notes from an article on the Ford HCQ+ study: https://thenationalpulse.com/coronavirus/hydroxychloroquine-works-says-study/ >>Among all the patients in the study, there was an overall in-hospital mortality rate of 18%, and many who died had underlying conditions, the hospital system said. Globally, the mortality rate for hospitalized patients is between 10% and 30%, and 58% among those in the ICU or on a ventilator.>> Not good news. However, consistent with the scans showing significant lung damage already, even when symptoms begin to show up. KFkairosfocus
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ET: Then why did JVL bring it up? Are you saying you made a mistake because I said something? Look at the conversation and then you can tell why I brought it up.
Yersinia pestis (formerly Pasteurella pestis) is a gram-negative, non-motile, rod-shaped, coccobacillus bacterium, with no spores. It is a facultative anaerobic organism that can infect humans via the Oriental rat flea (Xenopsylla cheopis). It causes the disease plague, which takes three main forms: pneumonic, septicemic, and bubonic.
Every year, thousands of cases of the plague are still reported to the World Health Organization, although with proper treatment, the prognosis for victims is now much better. A five- to six-fold increase in cases occurred in Asia during the time of the Vietnam War, possibly due to the disruption of ecosystems and closer proximity between people and animals. The plague is now commonly found in sub-Saharan Africa and Madagascar, areas that now account for over 95% of reported cases. The plague also has a detrimental effect on nonhuman mammals. In the United States, mammals such as the black-tailed prairie dog and the endangered black-footed ferret are under threat.
Seems to be alive and well actually; just waiting to get another crack at humans . . . I wonder if it will strengthen our immune systems . . .JVL
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Bob O'H:
the plague isn’t caused by a virus.
Then why did JVL bring it up?ET
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10 days of streptomycin and you’ll be right as rain. Because of science!Retired Physicist
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ET look up yersinia pestis.Retired Physicist
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ET - the plague isn't caused by a virus. And the disease is still around. It's even in Colorado, so I hope Barry doesn't make a habit of cuddling prairie dogs.Bob O'H
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LoL! @ JVL:
It worked for the Black Death! Plague ravaged Europe many, many times killing upwards of one-third of the population.
And yet the virus is no longer around. Meaning it did NOT work.ET
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More good news https://bit.ly/2BxBX8k
Risk Factors for Mortality in Patients with COVID-19 in New York City Conclusions Among patients with COVID-19, older age, male sex, hypotension, tachypnea, hypoxia, impaired renal function, elevated D-dimer, and elevated troponin were associated with increased in-hospital mortality and hydroxychloroquine use was associated with decreased in-hospital mortality.
Second study in two days to show HCQ with some effect on seriously hospitalized patients. Wasn't supposed to work here.jerry
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Zelenko publishes https://bit.ly/2YTjRGT
Objective: To describe outcomes of patients with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the outpatient setting after early treatment with zinc, low dose hydroxychloroquine, and azithromycin (the triple therapy) dependent on risk stratification.  Design: Retrospective case series study. Setting: General practice. Participants: 141 COVID-19 patients with laboratory confirmed severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infections in the year 2020.  Main Outcome Measures: Risk-stratified treatment decision, rate of hospitalization and all-cause death.  Results:  Of 335 positively PCR-tested COVID-19 patients, 127 were treated with the triple therapy. 104 of 127 met the defined risk stratification criteria and were included in the analysis. In addition, 37 treated and eligible patients who were confirmed by IgG tests were included in the treatment group (total N=141). 208 of the 335 patients did not meet the risk stratification criteria and were not treated. After 4 days (median, IQR 3-6, available for N=66/141) of onset of symptoms, 141 patients (median age 58 years, IQR 40-60; 73% male) got a prescription for the triple therapy for 5 days. Independent public reference data from 377 confirmed COVID-19 patients of the same community were used as untreated control. 4 of 141 treated patients (2.8%) were hospitalized, which was significantly less (p<0.001) compared with 58 of 377 untreated patients (15.4%) (odds ratio 0.16, 95% CI 0.06-0.5) Therefore, the odds of hospitalization of treated patients were 84% less than in the untreated group. One patient (0.7%) died in the treatment group versus 13 patients (3.5%) in the untreated group (odds ratio 0.2, 95% CI 0.03-1.5; p=0.16). There were no cardiac side effects.  Conclusions: Risk stratification-based treatment of COVID-19 outpatients as early as possible after symptom onset with the used triple therapy, including the combination of zinc with low dose hydroxychloroquine, was associated with significantly less hospitalizations and 5 times less all-cause deaths.
Let the nitpicking begin!jerry
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Vividbleau: Just finished 24 episodes on the ‘ Great Mortality” ,which was what those who went through it called it, on Amazon Prime. 24 episodes . . . I'll try the first one at least!! Bob O'H: I think the plague’s primary hosts are rodents, so killing humans quickly isn’t a huge issue. Depends on which type of plague you're talking about: Bubonic plague is mainly spread by infected fleas from small animals. It may also result from exposure to the body fluids from a dead plague-infected animal. In the bubonic form of plague, the bacteria enter through the skin through a flea bite and travel via the lymphatic vessels to a lymph node, causing it to swell The pneumonic form may occur following an initial bubonic or septicemic plague infection. It may also result from breathing in airborne droplets from another person or cat infected with pneumonic plague. The difference between the forms of plague is the location of infection; in pneumonic plague the infection is in the lungs, in bubonic plague the lymph nodes, and in septicemic plague within the blood. Septicemic plague is a life-threatening infection of the blood, most commonly spread by bites from infected fleas.JVL
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I think the plague's primary hosts are rodents, so killing humans quickly isn't a huge issue. Prairie dogs (for example) are probably more important.Bob O'H
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JVL “It worked for the Black Death! Plague ravaged Europe “ Just finished 24 episodes on the ‘ Great Mortality” ,which was what those who went through it called it, on Amazon Prime. Vividvividbleau
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We are nothing but sheep yet I have to go along with the rest of the sheep by law. If your a lefty you pretty much can do anything you want. I am waiting for a imaginative restaurant owner to open his or her restaurant in the middle of the protesters. Actually they should hire professional protestors and set up tables in their midst, win,win https://jbhandleyblog.com/home/2020/6/28/secondwave Vividvividbleau
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KF: Killing the host — esp quickly — is not a good survival trait. It worked for the Black Death! Plague ravaged Europe many, many times killing upwards of one-third of the population. BobRyan: Our immune system is strengthened by continual exposure to things like COVID-19. Unless it kills you! I wouldn't want to be exposed to polio, Marburg, Ebola or Anthrax in order to strengthen my immune system.JVL
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For those who have never bothered to spend any time studying how our immune system works, should take a little time to do so. Our immune system is strengthened by continual exposure to things like COVID-19. The constant use of antibacterials like soap, kills bacteria that is both good and bad. Killing bacteria weakens the immune system when used too often. Human interaction strengthens our immune system, whereas quarantine weakens it. I've yet to come across a single study saying that any measures taken to fight the spread of a virus has any positive impact on the immune system. If the immune system is weakened, more people will get sick from far more than COVID-19.BobRyan
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ET @ 525 -
Actually, there is evidence to the contrary. You can catch covid-19 again. Any immunity is short-lived. 3 months? But of course it is an ongoing thing
Read the article again. That's not what it says.Bob O'H
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KF https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/07/breaking-hydroxychloroquine-lowers-covid-19-death-rate-study-finds/ Vividvividbleau
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ET, I think that's the general trend. Killing the host -- esp quickly -- is not a good survival trait. KFkairosfocus
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Strains- it's why the flu vaccine usually has 3 different strains. Hopefully this virus mutates itself tame/ non-fatal.ET
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DS, the issue is strains. KFkairosfocus
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