Some visit UD trying to get answers for their questions. To that effect, Jaceli123 and others have been fielding questions that maybe some of you can answer. I don’t have answers toJaceli123’s question about tails and jaws.
Other than that, have at it. Here is my off-topic: Boxer George Forman became a Christian after a near death experience.
He’d been a burlger, and misfit. He then became an Olympic champion and then Heavyweight champ. But then Ali dethroned Foreman of the title. Some time later, Foreman had a near death experience, and friends and family could not comprehend the transformation. He became kind and charitable….running out of money, he came back to the boxing ring to give glory to God. In 1994, at age 45 Foreman regained his title (that was a miracle!).
From the Boxing Encyclopedia:
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Jimmy_Young_vs._George_Foreman
In his dressing room after the fight, Foreman told his trainer, Gil Clancy, that as he left the ring, he was plunged into despair. He thought he had died, and a giant hand was carrying him out of the emptiness surrounding him. He then said his head and hands were bleeding, and he began to yell, “Jesus Christ is coming alive in me.” With that, Foreman jumped into the shower before Clancy and the others in the room could stop him. As the water poured down on him, Foreman began to shout, “Hallelujah, I’m clean! Hallelujah, I’ve been born again!” Clancy later said, “It was hot as hell in the ring. He was hallucinating from dehydration.” Foreman, who believed he had a real religious experience, retired from boxing and became an ordained minister. Ten years later, Foreman returned to boxing at the age of 38.
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As always in my prayers I said “God, if I win this thing again, before the whole world I’m gonna get down on my knees and thank you. And when it happened, I got down on my knees and thanked God above.”
This reminds me of this Bible verse by the Apostle Paul:
I do not fight like a boxer beating the air
Apostle Paul
I got a little choked up seeing the photo of Foreman kneeling in prayer at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Here were the other testimonies of Christian conversion:
Ba77’s OT vol 3– Lon Solomon, Micahel Franzese, Doyle Brunson
The guidelines for offtopics:
1. Do not attack other commenters, you may attack their claims and arguments
2. Keep it family friendly (limit the vulgarity, please)
3. Some degree of civility please
Here is a video of the full Foreman-Moorer fight. Foreman’s victory was a miracle. Moorer dominated the fight for 10 rounds, but Foreman got two well placed punches (a left jab followed by devastating right cross). And Moorer was knocked out and was never the same since.
It wasn’t evident from the video, but Moorer was hit so hard his mouth piece went into his gum and he later needed surgery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0-WR3qcWp4
Undefeated Moorer was Goliath in terms of speed and youth. Foreman was David. Miracle!
From wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman
F/N: I took time out to respond to J1 here, yesterday morning. AFAIK, s/he has not showed up in that thread since. KF
Thanks for doing this. You guys make me smile no matter how mad you guys are. Thanks for all the help and support appreciate it and I promise I wont ask as many questions because I know it drives you guys crazy, to the point that you start to create posts about me. Anyway cool post and thanks!
Jaceli123, I don’t think anyone is mad at you. Maybe annoyed that you bring up your questions and comments at inappropriate places in threads (something that I am very guilty of myself), but not mad. In fact, if you want to see people truly get mad at you, for no reason at all, try to defend the thesis that life is Intelligently Designed, or just genuinely question the adequacy of Darwinian processes, to one of your teachers who is a convinced Darwinist (Warning your grade in the class may suffer drastically in the class). Darwinists are infamous for irrational hostility towards anyone who questions Darwinism. Censoring, Firing, and Blackballing anyone who dares question the sufficiency of undirected processes to produce the unfathomed integrated complexity that we find in life. A few (of many) notes in that regards:
Though the evidence against neo-Darwinian evolution is overwhelming, anyone who dares question the sufficiency of Darwinism to explain all life on earth in the public school classroom, college, or public institutions such as the Smithsonian, is persecuted, as this following refrences clearly point out:
etc.. etc.. etc..
And this persecution, i.e. unreasonable anger, from Darwinists, is even though some leading evolutionists themselves, who are beyond the power of direct retribution by hard core neo-Darwinists, severely question the undirected processes of Darwinism to generate all life on earth:
Music and Verse:
J1: It would help if, when your questions get an answer, you don’t vanish from the thread. That is troll-like behaviour, and as BA77 hints at we get trolls and worse — much worse — here. I suggest you comment on the response, in some way, even to say, you have actively read and are processing. KF
Jaceli123, as to ‘human tail’ birth defect:
Moreover, the erroneous Darwinian presupposition that the human tail bone is vestigial (useless) has led to much medical malpractice in the past in that people who unwittingly have it removed, by a Doctor who believed it to be useless, have difficultly sitting comfortably thereafter:
Since Sal brought up the subject of Near Death Experiences, I think it would be well to reflect on just how strong the evidence is for Near Death Experiences:
Another piece of evidence that also argues very strongly against any type of materialistic explanation for Near Death Experiences is what is termed ‘Shared Death Experience’. A ‘Shared Death Experience’ is an experience in which a close loved one, though not terminally ill, is caught up into part of the Near Death Experience as a beloved passes on:
As well, even though the atheistic researchers in this following study found evidence directly contradicting what they had expected to find, they were/are so wedded to the materialistic/naturalistic view of reality, the view of “I’ am my body”, that it seems sadly impossible for them to even conceive of the possibility that there may be a, “I’ am a soul distinct from my body” view of reality.
One of the more fascinating branches of Near Death Studies have been the studies of people who were born blindvwho could see for the first time in their life during their NDE. This simply has no explanation within the materialistic framework, whereas, in the theistic framework, this is expected:
Many Christians are wary of Near Death Experiences because many facets of NDE’s do not conform to what Christians generally imagine heaven to be like,,,
But as to the fact that heaven seems strange to how we may have a-priorily imagined it to be as Christians, all I can ask is ‘how do we know that we really imagined such an ineffable paradise accurately in the first place?’
As well, many Christians are also very wary of Near Death Experiences because many people who have them are not overtly “Christian’. Yet if one looks at foreign Near Death Experiences, in non-Judeo-Christian cultures, then one finds an extreme poverty of extremely pleasant Near Death Experiences. All foreign, non-Judeo-Christian culture, NDE studies I have looked at have a extreme rarity of encounters with ‘The Being Of Light’ and tend to be very unpleasant NDE’s save for the few pleasant children’s NDEs of those cultures that I’ve seen (It seems there is indeed an ‘age of accountability’). The following study was shocking for what was found in some non-Judeo-Christian NDE’s:
Moreover, It should also be noted that there are also a small but significant number of hellish NDE’s reported within Judeo-Christian cultures:
Moreover, to tie NDE’s more directly to Christianity, It is noted that an extremely powerful source of ‘supernatural’ light is required to explain how the image formed on the Shroud:
Kevin Moran, an optical engineer working on the mysterious ‘3D photographic negative’ nature of the Shroud image, states the ‘supernatural’ explanation this way:
I suggest If scientists want to find the source for the supernatural light which made the “3D – photographic negative” image on the Shroud I suggest they look to the thousands of documented Near-Death Experiences (NDE’s) in Judeo-Christian cultures. It is in their testimonies that you will find mention of an indescribably bright ‘Light’ or ‘Being of Light’ who is always described as being of a much brighter intensity of light than the people had ever seen before.
All people who have been in the presence of ‘The Being of Light’, while having a deep NDE in a Judeo-Christian culture, have no doubt whatsoever that the ‘The Being of Light’ they were in the presence of is none other than ‘The Lord God Almighty’ of heaven and earth.
Verse and Music:
Ok thanks guys im not a troll or here to annoy anybody and ill try to respond anyway thanks again.
This DVD seems to very similar in presentation to illustra media productions including the music and narrator.
Here is a high quality opening few minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Nca0GxvMA
Here is the entire DVD in low quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXf2IDS-9g0
Here is an interesting possible ID inference of Sodom and Gomorrah, Zeboim, Admah, Zoar.
There are some formations that look man-made with large burial sites associated with them with estimates of about 1,000,000 people.
The formations look like a ruined cities. Curiously, non-rhombic pure sulfur spheres are found embedded in the ruins along with calcium sulfate. So we have a city, evidence of an unusual chemical warfare poured out upon it. It looks like there is ID both in the construction of the city and the intelligent design of its destruction using chemical incendiaries. I’ll let the reader decide on the meaning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzVR5HTcR1I
From Catholic Priest
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/12.....wiped-out/
More evidence of a intelligently designed incendiary attack waged on 5 separate, geographically separated cities simultaneously:
The inventor of the AK-47, Mikail Kalashnikov passed away. He seemed like a nice guy, but what a horrific invention:
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/.....92132.html
SC: He was responding to the German MP 44/StG 44 . . . the latter means Assault Rifle, the assault part being added by Hitler (who otherwise did not like rifles, seeing them as defensive-minded). The StG 44 was in use by 1944 on the eastern front and the western one as well. The AK 47 was in itself a legitimate weapon of war, but was then spread far and wide very irresponsibly by both the USSR and China, making it into a global scourge. KF
It is generally believed that Sodom and Gomorrah were located near the southern end of the Salt Sea. The kings of these cities were among those who battled in “the Low Plain of Siddim, that is, the Salt Sea,” and the way this is phrased suggests that the Low Plain of Siddim came to be covered by the Salt Sea. (Ge 14:3) The region of Sodom and Gomorrah where Lot settled was ‘well watered, like the garden of Jehovah.’ (Ge 13:10-12) Even today, in the plain along the SE shore, vegetation is abundant, and wheat, barley, dates, and vines can be grown there. The large amounts of bitumen and salt, especially in this southern section, also match the Biblical account of Sodom and Gomorrah.—Ge 14:10; 19:24-26.
At one time the Valley of Siddim, located near Sodom and Gomorrah in the Dead Sea area, was noted for its “pits upon pits of bitumen” (“slimepits,” KJ). (Ge 14:10) Even today bitumen is occasionally washed ashore, suggesting that Siddim is presently located beneath the waters of the Dead Sea. Bitumen is also a flammable material and is so described by Isaiah, who prophesied that the land of Edom would “become as burning pitch.”—Isa 34:9.
The Institute for Creation Research has the following 3 articles featured right now:
Best Creation News of 2013: Human Origins
Best Creation News of 2013: Astronomy
Best Creation News of 2013: Tissue Fossils
icr.orgI’m surprised that no one has picked up on this article on and commented on it:
Seems quite significant to me!
Halton Arp, Big Bang Critic, passes away on Dec. 28, 2013
http://creation.com/halton-arp-diesHe was most famous for his unique theory on quasars that challenges the Standard Model.
Thanks TJGuy,
Perhaps someone will post this as news. If not, I will.
Sad especially for those of us that are banking on the Big Bang being false.
The Big Bang is sort of a mixed bag. It is loved by some ID proponents, and hated by the YECs. 🙂
Sal
Many ID proponents love the Big Bang hypothesis because they think it provides evidence for a creation and a Creator. Personally, I think they are mistaken.
First off, Yahweh does not need evidence from human science to make himself known. He has prepared a few surprises in store for that purpose. Human science will be blown out of the water in the process.
Second, atheists have already conjured up a cockakamie explanation that excludes God from the Big Bang picture: the universe goes from Big Bangs to Big Crunches, from white holes to black holes and back, over and over and it’s been that way forever. IOW, God had nothing to do with it. “Voodoo science” does not do this cr*p justice.
Third, the Big Bang theory is full of contradictions and other problems of logic and interpretation.
Finally, neither the Big Bang nor Physics at large offers an answer to the most important unanswered question in physics: why do things move?
In other words, it’s just the ignorant leading the blind.
Okay.
This is a non-sequitur.
This is a comment about materialists – of no consequence to the evidence.
This is an unsupported assertion.
Another non-sequitur.
tjguy,
Thanks, I posted a small memorial to Dr. Arp.
http://www.uncommondescent.com.....sses-away/
For my YEC friends:
Best of 2013 Creation News: Earth’s Age
http://www.icr.org/article/7869/Look at all these natural processes that we used to think took thousands/millions of years to happen, but which have been demonstrated to happen very quickly!
http://www.icr.org/article/7874/