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L&FP, 58a: Dallas Willard, on knowledge and its significance: “knowledge authorizes one to act, to direct action, to develop and supervise policy, and to teach”

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In his posthumous book (completed by colleagues), Willard makes a key observation on knowledge, one that challenges a power-obsessed, agenda driven era that is dismissive of objectivity rooted in good warrant:

To have knowledge . . . is to be able to represent something as it is on an adequate basis of thought or experience, not to exclude communications from qualified sources (“authority”) . . . . knowledge authorizes one to act, to direct action, to develop and supervise policy, and to teach. It does so because, as everyone assumes, it enables us to deal more successfully with reality: with what we can count on, have to deal with, or are apt to have bruising encounters with. Knowledge involves assured truth . . . [pp. 19, 20 and 4, Dallas Willard & Literary Heirs, The Disappearance of Moral Knowledge, Routledge|Taylor& Francis Group, 2018. ]

Obviously, to have the aura of knowledge confers power, legitimate power. So, in an age where the inferior substitute, skepticism has been put in the place of prudence (a cardinal virtue pivoting on balanced, well grounded soundly informed moderation), it is easy for knowledge to become captive to institutional power agendas, celebrity and cynical selective hyperskepticism.

When one hears, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence,” for example, one should note that that is little more than a cynical policy of suspicion of the despised other. Clearly, all that is reasonably required is adequate and responsible evidence . . . including, the frank acknowledgement of limitations of knowledge. To know where one does not know can be most important, albeit negative, knowledge. (Beyond the known unknowns of course, as we are now well aware — thanks to Donald Rumsfeld — lurk the unknown unknowns.)

Now, Willard’s statement is closely related to the weak form definition rooted in common usage, knowledge is warranted, credibly true (so, reliable) belief. The adequate base of thought and experience is of course, adequate warrant and good reliability. The significance of authority, starting with the dictionary and one’s teachers, is that as C S Lewis rightly observed, 99% of practical argument relies on authority. This includes Science, few of us have reproduced for ourselves the bodies of experimental, observational and analytical chains in the the fields of science we learn and practice. We must therefore recognise the pessimistic induction, thus that scientific theories do not attain to moral certainty of truth; though, their empirical reliability in a given range may well be morally certain. The sting in the tail, here, being that many known false models have similar reliability. (If you want a key case in point, ponder Newtonian Dynamics in a quantum and relativistic world.)

There is a further claim by Willard that I would adjust or at least moderate: “[k]nowledge involves assured truth.”

Once we see that the common use of knowledge — with science as key case — involves both confidence in reliability and possibility of correction, that may go or at least suggest a step too far. If what is implied is that an established body of truth on the whole is credibly more true than in need of onward correction, perhaps. But, it must be open to such correction otherwise we can fall into closed minded adherence to error.

Perhaps, we can soften to, knowledge involves well founded credibility and confident belief in that credibility. Hence, credibly true (and so reliable) belief. Obviously, for cause, that credibility can be withdrawn, but stands as the case today.

This brings us back to the point in L&FP, 58; announced in its headline: “[k]nowledge (including scientific knowledge) is not a simple concept.” END

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JVL, the tin ear game continues and shows the gaps that need to be dealt with. I will comment to a few points, just to underscore that a negative knowledge conclusion is pivotal: known unknowns, never mind your hyperskeptical dismissal -- we know we do not know any neat clean solution here, no one holds authority of positive knowledge. That is before we raise issues of unknown unknowns in the case: johari window extended to policy analysis. Secrets, successfully kept [known to others but not to us] and aspects no one recognised then and now [things known only to God]. The botching of security is the first sign of through and through incompetence; they just were not ready for this sort of issue. The next botch was the treatment and autopsy i/l/o forensics requisites. Wounds were not properly investigated, there was interference from officials, law enforcement and military [right there in the autopsy], so we do not know the actual wounds properly, there is conflict over even where some were and whether they connect to others. This includes the link to Gov Connally's wounds and that of a bystander grazed by what seems a bullet fragment or a bit of pavement. There is no proper control on entrance wounds and number of wounds. There is medical testimony the back wound was finger deep only, and there is testimony that the neck front wound was a bullet entry; which was then turned into a tracheotomy. I will not more than mention disputes on numbers of shots, heard locations, suspicious people nearby, possible fake Secret Service agents, and the like. The Warren report seems to have poor, leading question methods, too that would frustrate eyewitness evidence. Even the handling of the casket was questionable. Not to mention, removal from TX jurisdiction. There was no proper chain of custody on fragments, evidence seems to have vanished. If one bullet fragmented in a head so explosively then the claimed bullet that went through back and neck, broke a second person's rib, broke wrist, deposited in thigh maybe and was claimed to drop out in a stretcher in the hospital becomes highly questionable. Nor do I buy oh it near missed and broke, that is speculation posing as knowledge. We could go on and on, but enough is there that the best conclusion is negative knowledge and strong suspicion of cover up, perhaps to avert Cuba Crisis 2, the assassination. As to telling me, poster of OP to leave my own thread and allow toxic tangential, off topic speculation and accusation free reign, that is blatant disrespect. Reason to shut down this thread as a lesson, even though that too can be used to play onward rhetorical games. Never mind, this thread further establishes the patterns of behaviour that have been going on and will shape onward threads. KFkairosfocus
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Kairosfocus: One, the security was botched. Possibly but that didn't affect how many shooters there were. Second, the med treatment and autopsy process were inexcusably poor in a forensic context. Again, possibly. I have to think that the physicians at Parkland were in a desperate situation trying everything they could as quickly as possible. Third, the convenient rubbing out of Mr Oswald just as he said he was a patsy compounds the matter. IF what he said was true. Why do you believe him? Especially considering all the evidence that he was the single gunman? In Bugliosi's book he goes through the day with Oswald step-by-step. You should read it sometime. Next, the Warren report raises a lot of questions. Maybe. It answers a lot more, the ones they were investigating. Fifth, the explosion raises questions as to ammunition and fragmentation etc that also cast questions on the bullet found in the hospital after allegedly passing through two bodies and hitting bones. The so called 'magic bullet' was the second shot fired and was fairly pristine because it DIDN'T directly hit any bones. The third shot, the one that created the explosive effect, was not pristine afterwards. I wonder about the condition of the rifle and compare the old mad minute 15 rounds per minute rapid standard for the fast action Quite a few people have duplicated Oswald's rate of fire and accuracy over the years. Remember, he was a very good marksman. There are more issues and FYI, my actual view is that this cannot neatly be tied off, especially with oh everything is readily accounted for by theories X, Y, or Z. Maybe. But it seems to me that when you look at ALL the actual data there is one simple, clean, parsimonious answer. Beyond, given targetting of Castro and other fishing in troubled waters, multiplied by associations of the assassin, serious suspicions and questions cannot be neatly disposed of . . . one may doubt but cannot neatly dismiss. In short, tying back to the OP, I am saying negative knowledge is knowledge. There is no such thing as negative knowledge. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You can speculate all you want but you cannot draw conclusions based on data which doesn't exist. Now, please do not try to drag me in further, in a context where my cousin just had the back of his head blown out by a gunman in KY and his dad my uncle died of the shock. I am sorry for your loss but I fail to understand why you are still online arguing about something you claim to find painful. I think you are disrespecting your own family by hammering away at your keyboard instead of being with them in a time of need. I am not playing games; how could I when I am not privy to your private life. No one is forcing you to come onto this forum and discuss issues you find painful. The only person who is responsible for that is you. Maybe you should wake up and go a different direction? The world does not revolve around you; people will continue to discuss things that might offend you or cause you pain. It's up to you to stop participating.JVL
September 20, 2022
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AF, you continue the tin ear problem. First you did not read closely enough to note I was specifically discussing my cousin and uncle (the other three close deaths are unconnected to the murder); when more general remarks were ignored, showing part of the wider picture of loss of basic regard driven by an increasingly polarised atmosphere. That is why I gave a slight increment of detail, in hope that there would be willingness to wake up and go in a different direction. Second, consider reflection on the terminal ballistics of head injury for one with quintuple mourning, all in a context of toxic polarising distraction and targetting based on misattribution and strawman caricature. Of course, it seems there is something in Willard that hits close to home, hence distraction. As for you, you are in continued evasion of Lehninger confirming that yes highly knowledgeable parties routinely and matter of factly accept that D/RNA in the cell carries coded information. All of that together paints a telling, sad picture. KFkairosfocus
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my cousin just had the back of his head blown out by a gunman in KY and his dad my uncle died of the shock. It is clear to me from matters above, that you have tried to poison the atmosphere to cloud what should be a reasonably direct main point from Willard, and have been willing to play games with a man still mourning five close deaths; Sunday would have been my brother’s birthday; okay. That speaks, not in your favour. KF
Whilst I'm very sorry to hear of the manner of your brother's violent untimely death, why on Earth are you lashing out as if JVL had something to do with it? In fact, why on Earth are you giving out private information on a public blog read by complete strangers?Alan Fox
September 20, 2022
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JVL, you seem tone deaf. Okay, I will say a few things. One, the security was botched. Second, the med treatment and autopsy process were inexcusably poor in a forensic context. Third, the convenient rubbing out of Mr Oswald just as he said he was a patsy compounds the matter. Next, the Warren report raises a lot of questions. Fifth, the explosion raises questions as to ammunition and fragmentation etc that also cast questions on the bullet found in the hospital after allegedly passing through two bodies and hitting bones. I wonder about the condition of the rifle and compare the old mad minute 15 rounds per minute rapid standard for the fast action SMLE. There are more issues and FYI, my actual view is that this cannot neatly be tied off, especially with oh everything is readily accounted for by theories X, Y, or Z. Beyond, given targetting of Castro and other fishing in troubled waters, multiplied by associations of the assassin, serious suspicions and questions cannot be neatly disposed of . . . one may doubt but cannot neatly dismiss. In short, tying back to the OP, I am saying negative knowledge is knowledge. Maybe, they were trying to avert Cuba Crisis 2, the assassination, given botched work. Now, please do not try to drag me in further, in a context where my cousin just had the back of his head blown out by a gunman in KY and his dad my uncle died of the shock. It is clear to me from matters above, that you have tried to poison the atmosphere to cloud what should be a reasonably direct main point from Willard, and have been willing to play games with a man still mourning five close deaths; Sunday would have been my brother's birthday; okay. That speaks, not in your favour. KFkairosfocus
September 19, 2022
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Kairosfocus: I hope this gives enough to see why it is simply not appropriate to try to stir up prolonged debate on such a topic at this time. Then why did you bring up frame 313? Several times? You could have just stopped responding. But you didn't. I just note to you that you continue to presume and project a view, a strawman fallacy. I don't see how; I'm just pointing out that there is credible, experimental evidence that the shots came from the book depository. No straw man involved.JVL
September 19, 2022
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JVL, first, you have acknowledged misattribution. I have little wish to go on and on a personally painful subject given recent horrific double loss: murdered cousin, uncle dying of the shock -- I hope this gives enough to see why it is simply not appropriate to try to stir up prolonged debate on such a topic at this time. It is also sidetracking a key issue. I just note to you that you continue to presume and project a view, a strawman fallacy. Meanwhile, it is clear that Willard's point is made and that is central. KFkairosfocus
September 19, 2022
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Kairosfocus: I have not argued beyond, go to the evidence, which must control. Whatever that means. I have explained and pointed to evidence which disagrees with your view. You can choose to look at that data or not but if you ignore it then it's fair to say you're not taking all the data into consideration. You are forcing me to delve on matters of personal grief tied to a murder, itself a further problem I am not forcing you to do anything. Unless you think I can override your free will then you have to acknowledge that it's up to you to respond or not. View frame 313 and ask regarding evident explosion. I have already said I have done so and I have already told you why I think the evidence from that frame is explained, via experimental data (source given), by a shot from the book depository. For some reason you keep insisting I have not considered the what you are bringing up when I have said at least three times now how I have taken that information under consideration but come to a different conclusion. Please explain why I should continue to respond to your continued objection after already having done so clearly and repeatedly? Can you not accept that a) there might be data you are ignoring and b) someone may, especially if they are taking into account data you are ignoring, come to a different conclusion?JVL
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I have not argued beyond, go to the evidence, which must control. You are forcing me to delve on matters of personal grief tied to a murder, itself a further problem. View frame 313 and ask regarding evident explosion. KFkairosfocus
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Kairosfocus: still no acknowledgement of a significant misattribution on which innuendoes were piled up Looking back over the conversation I admit I did misattributed the quote that the evidence points to a different conclusion and for that I apologise. After that you continued arguing for a situation which I believe has significant and credible arguments against. And that has been what I have been discussing with you AFTER the initial confusion. You chose to continue following a thread which you did not have to do.JVL
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JVL, still no acknowledgement of a significant misattribution on which innuendoes were piled up. Sad, but duly noted. KF PS, we await response on Willard's key observations.kairosfocus
September 19, 2022
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Kairosfocus: I add my comment in 22: “look at the two vids, frame by frame, tell us what you see, what it implies; especially the exploding head.” I still really don’t want to go into these matters in detail given a recent family tragedy. I note, enhanced video shows a skin hinge with a fair sized part of cranium, obviously top-right of the head, the vicinity of the awful puff of matter. Consistent with a shot from the book depository as shown by actual experiments done by Dr John Lattimer as fully explained in his book which you can buy on ebay (it's out of print now). Anyway, off to watch the funeral. History being played out.JVL
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F/N: It is clear that there is no effective counter to the core point made by Dallas Willard, as adjusted:
To have knowledge . . . is to be able to represent something as it is on an adequate basis of thought or experience, not to exclude communications from qualified sources (“authority”) . . . . knowledge authorizes one to act, to direct action, to develop and supervise policy, and to teach. It does so because, as everyone assumes, it enables us to deal more successfully with reality: with what we can count on, have to deal with, or are apt to have bruising encounters with. Knowledge involves [ADJ: warranted, credible] truth . . . [pp. 19, 20 and 4, Dallas Willard & Literary Heirs, The Disappearance of Moral Knowledge, Routledge|Taylor& Francis Group, 2018. ]
This is highly significant as it decisively undercuts the politicisation of education, media, policy and practice. This, we would do well to heed, but it is probably the case that we will have to go over the cliff before there will be a critical mass to support a return to responsible consensus. KF PS, let me add a comment on certain tactics above. For argument, assume I am a hypocrite regarding the principles and a supporter of unprovoked threatening of lives -- neither of which is so. Would -- note, hypothetical conditional -- that change one whit on the force of the argument by DALLAS WILLARD? Does it change the force of my suggestion that a weak form view of truth is more reflective of common use? No, and no. So, why were such gambits used, in both cases turning on distortions? Sadly, that reflects the toxic atmosphere that we face, and it tells us that Willard's point hits close to the mark. We need to restore objectivity pivoting on warrant and recognition that this confers legitimate authority. PPS, similarly, I notice that after significant time, those who tried to dismiss recognising code in D/RNA on claimed superior knowledge of biochem clearly have no cogent answer to what is in Lehninger, a well known reference level text. Otherwise, they would have given it. In short they tried a bluff. It has failed. We may freely point to coded, complex algorithms in the heart of the cell and raise the normal import of such. Language, goal directed process, deep knowledge of polymer chemistry. I suggest, it is absurd to suggest without observation of such happening, that such came about by blind chance and mechanical necessity. I go further, this is the real wow signal sought by SETI.kairosfocus
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JVL, you have not acknowledged your misattribution, nor that your innuendoes are built on air. You do not know my view [which is not what you misattribute to me], I have simply pointed to the key source for direct evidence. KF PS, I add my comment in 22: "look at the two vids, frame by frame, tell us what you see, what it implies; especially the exploding head." I still really don't want to go into these matters in detail given a recent family tragedy. I note, enhanced video shows a skin hinge with a fair sized part of cranium, obviously top-right of the head, the vicinity of the awful puff of matter.kairosfocus
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Kairosfocus: What I have said is, look frame by frame at the two videos of the event. I particularly pointed to an exploding head, pardon. I have looked at those films and read Dr John Lattimer's book about the ballistics and his experiments showing that the films are consistent with shots coming from the book depository. The very least you can do is to acknowledge that there are credible experts who disagree with your view. The very least.JVL
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JVL, first, you have confused me with Relatd in 25 and have built a castle of innuendoes on air. What I have said is, look frame by frame at the two videos of the event. I particularly pointed to an exploding head, pardon. I do not wish to delve on typical terminal ballistics of entry and exit wounds and wound tracks, especially a couple of months since my cousin was murdered by being shot in the face, in Cayman, with terrible effect. He had been a supt of prisons and was in a shop when gunmen came in to rob it. Kindly, work it out for yourself. KFkairosfocus
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Kairosfocus: The evidence points to another conclusion. In brief, more than one shooter. Odd that the person who berates others for being hyperskeptical picks and chooses which evidence he chooses to believe. Take all the evidence on board, even that which is contrary to your beliefs. Gerald Posner in Case Closed and Vicent Bugliosi in Reclaiming History have extensively covered and laid out the evidence in the case. They address at least some of the issues you bring up. If you want to be fair, honest and objective then please acknowledge that there are credible views that differ from yours. Otherwise you are just as dogmatic and close-minded as those you criticise.JVL
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AF, in self defence as proved in court. KF PS, what you left off:
Charles was placed under house arrest for the duration of the 1976 state of emergency after he was eventually released from Up Park Camp. He was later freed of serious allegations levelled against him. “I felt that Manley, in detaining me, was upset about what had happened [in Nain] because it was rumoured that he said he would catch up on me,” Charles said, highlighting how Manley, as the leader of the National Workers’ Union, led a crowd at the bauxite plant to chase him out, which eventually led to Charles getting punched in the eyes and him shooting one of his attackers called ‘Cookie’. Charles admitted that he even turned his gun on Manley, pointing it in his face before making an escape amid a hail of stones. Charles said Manley was the chief witness against him during the trial on shooting-related charges. He was eventually freed by a jury.
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From the Gleaner article KF links to: Charles admitted that he even turned his gun on Manley, pointing it in his face before making an escape amid a hail of stones.Alan Fox
September 18, 2022
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AF, still on tangents. Focal:
To have knowledge . . . is to be able to represent something as it is on an adequate basis of thought or experience, not to exclude communications from qualified sources (“authority”) . . . . knowledge authorizes one to act, to direct action, to develop and supervise policy, and to teach. It does so because, as everyone assumes, it enables us to deal more successfully with reality: with what we can count on, have to deal with, or are apt to have bruising encounters with. Knowledge involves assured truth . . . [pp. 19, 20 and 4, Dallas Willard & Literary Heirs, The Disappearance of Moral Knowledge, Routledge|Taylor& Francis Group, 2018. ]
KF PS, MNM was not to be admired for this https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/lead-stories/20201030/why-manley-said-pearnel-charles-was-locked-former-politician-yet-bekairosfocus
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Yes, I think, taken in the round, Michael Manley's political career is much to be admired.Alan Fox
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AF, regrettably irrelevant and distractive as usual, I see (especially in the face of the issue of detainee No. 1 c 1976/77: Pearnel Charles). Do you have something substantial to say regarding what is central?
To have knowledge . . . is to be able to represent something as it is on an adequate basis of thought or experience, not to exclude communications from qualified sources (“authority”) . . . . knowledge authorizes one to act, to direct action, to develop and supervise policy, and to teach. It does so because, as everyone assumes, it enables us to deal more successfully with reality: with what we can count on, have to deal with, or are apt to have bruising encounters with. Knowledge involves assured truth . . . [pp. 19, 20 and 4, Dallas Willard & Literary Heirs, The Disappearance of Moral Knowledge, Routledge|Taylor& Francis Group, 2018. ]
KF PS, FYI, to describe Jamaica after the fiscal policy fiascos of the 70's (blunders in the teeth of warning) that destroyed the balance of payments position, as an economic success, sadly, does not even pass the giggle test. At best, there has been a long, mostly losing struggle to begin to recover. The path of the J$ exchange rate tells the sad tale. In the '70's the biggest J$ bill was $20, now it is $ 5,000 . . . and that is rather roughly 1 1/2 times the same real value. Maybe, in another 40 years.kairosfocus
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P. J. Patterson, Manley's Elisha and Jamaica's longest serving prime minister, left a legacy of economic success that's pretty impressive.Alan Fox
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Michael Manley! There was a character. Fondly remembered in Jamaica till this day, I see.Alan Fox
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So Andrew Holness and the Jamaica Labour Party are apparently not social democrats but conservatives. They were elected by a landslide in 2020. I'd have guessed Kairosfocus would approve.Alan Fox
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F/N2: The issue as to what knowledge [normal, weak sense] is -- warranted, credibly true (so, reliable) belief, and the credibility/ authority/ legitimacy it confers goes to the heart of the cynical attitude of a Pilate about to commit judicial murder: what is truth. That is, substituting a battle of ideological narrative dominance for the challenge of warrant and responsiveness to objective truth shows that corrupt, cynical power classes are long since well aware of the revolutionary, transformational potential of truth and have studied the arts of locking out and suppressing knowledge of truth (including first duties). Let's listen to the exchange:
Jn 18: 33 So Pilate entered his headquarters again and called Jesus and said to him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” 34 Jesus answered, “Do you say this of your own accord, or did others say it to you about me?” 35 Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered you over to me. What have you done?” 36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.” 37 Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world— to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.” 38 Pilate said to him, “What is truth?”
Of course, he said to the accusers, I find no guilt in him, but was all too willing to yield to power-pressure and knowingly judicially murdered an innocent man. This is foundational, in a foundational document of our civilisation. Complete, with a grim warning as to where cynicism to truth ends up. We have no excuse. KF PS, Let's add, the general conclusion, exposing what is really going on in our civilisation:
Jn 3:19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.”
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F/N: Though this is only a small slice of the story, try this article on the infamous detention. And yes, at the time the public had no idea of the atrocious conditions, tantamount to psychological torture. Targetting like that is a very bad sign indeed. KFkairosfocus
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JVL at 19, The Movie JFK was released in 1991. In it, Donald Sutherland portrays a Mister X, who was actually L. Fletcher Prouty who served in special operations in the Pentagon before and during the Kennedy Administration. Mister X explains to Jim Garrison (Kevin Costner), an attorney investigating the JFK assassination, how additional security for the Kennedy visit to Dallas was denied. How a certain group in the government had the means, motive and opportunity to carry out the assassination. He resigned his commission in 1964. He discounts any Mafia involvement and makes a succinct point: "Why was Kennedy killed, who benefited, who had the power to cover it up?" A bullet was recovered on a stretcher in Parkland Memorial Hospital which was decided to be "the" assassination bullet. It was only partly deformed. It had a very tiny loss of material at the tip. Remember, Governor Connally was also allegedly hit by this same bullet. Bullet fragments were still in his wrist at the time of his death. Assassination researchers approached his wife to ask for permission to examine the wrist. She declined them permission. This movie also helped spur: "The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 created the Assassination Records Review Board as an independent agency to re-examine for release the assassination-related records that federal agencies still regarded as too sensitive to open to the public. The Board finished its work on September 30, 1998, issued a final report, and transferred all of its records to the National Archives and Records Administration." The evidence points to another conclusion. In brief, more than one shooter. The recovered Mannlicher-Carcano rifle had a misaligned sight. In fact, significant work had to be done to get it into a correct position for use, or 'sighted in.'relatd
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PS, it seems I need to pose to you this from Lehninger, on a crucial bit of evidence:
"The information in DNA is encoded in its linear (one-dimensional) sequence of deoxyribonucleotide subunits . . . . A linear sequence of deoxyribonucleotides in DNA codes (through an intermediary, RNA) for the production of a protein with a corresponding linear sequence of amino acids . . . Although the final shape of the folded protein is dictated by its amino acid sequence, the folding of many proteins is aided by “molecular chaperones” . . . The precise three-dimensional structure, or native conformation, of the protein is crucial to its function." [Principles of Biochemistry, 8th Edn, 2021, pp 194 – 5. Now authored by Nelson, Cox et al, Lehninger having passed on in 1986. Attempts to rhetorically pretend on claimed superior knowledge of Biochemistry, that D/RNA does not contain coded information expressing algorithms using string data structures, collapse. We now have to address the implications of language, goal directed stepwise processes and underlying sophisticated polymer chemistry and molecular nanotech in the heart of cellular metabolism and replication.]
Let me add, codes [especially complex ones] are language and algorithms are stepwise, goal directed processes, here, embodying sophisticated polymer chemistry. Under normal circumstances they are readily seen as signatures of intelligently directed configuration, for excellent reason. That has been ideologically locked out by Lewontinian a priori imposition of evolutionary materialism as can be documented. If you disagree, kindly show us where, per actual observation, blind chance and mechanical necessity have created complex coded messages and algorithms beyond 500 to 1,000 bits of information carrying capacity. And if you wish to suggest that self replication gives incremental work around, be reminded this first applies to a Darwin warm pond or the like, and that this has been on the table since Paley's Ch 2 c 1804 on a thought exercise on a self replicating clock. That is, addition of a self replication facility for an automaton showing already a sophisticated metabolic network dwarfing the process flow system in an oil refinery, using molecular nanotech, is a massive further increment of complexity. Your answer: _____________ And, has it dawned on you that having seen my native land ruined by agit prop, lawfare and 4th gen civil war advanced by subversives with external aid, I might have a little bit of concern to see that averted on a civilisational level?kairosfocus
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JVL, dismissiveness to the "anomalous" -- a synonym for extraordinary -- once it is adequately warranted is precisely the selective hyperkepticism I have highlighted. All that can be required of evidence is what is responsibly, reasonably accessible in fulfillment of first duties of reason: to truth, to right reason, to warrant and wider prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so too to fairness and justice. Go read Detained. KFkairosfocus
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