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Philip Cunningham: Quantum mechanics is as weird as we thought

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No help for materialism.

– Reflecting light off satellite backs up Wheeler’s quantum theory thought experiment – October 26, 2017 – Bob Yirka:

Excerpt: Back in the late 1970s, physicist Johan Wheeler tossed around a thought experiment in which he asked what would happen if tests allowed researchers to change parameters after a photon was fired, but before it had reached a sensor for testing—would it somehow alter its behavior mid-course? He also considered the possibilities as light from a distant quasar made its way through space, being lensed by gravity. Was it possible that the light could somehow choose to behave as a wave or a particle depending on what scientists here on Earth did in trying to measure it? …

he experiment consisted of shooting a laser beam at a beam splitter, which aimed the beam at a satellite traveling in low Earth orbit, which reflected it back to Earth. But as the light traveled back to Earth, the researchers had time to make a choice whether or not to activate a second beam splitter as the light was en route. Thus, they could test whether the light was able to sense what they were doing and respond accordingly. The team reports that the light behaved just as Wheeler had predicted—demonstrating either particle-like or wave-like behavior, depending on the behavior of those studying it.

– Extending Wheeler’s delayed-choice experiment to space – Oct. 25, 2017
Excerpt: We implement Wheeler’s idea along a satellite-ground interferometer that extends for thousands of kilometers in space….

From Wheeler: “No phenomenon is a physical phenomenon until it is an observed phenomenon.” — John Wheeler, in Robert J. Scully, The Demon and the Quantum (2007), 191.

Wheeler’s Classic Delayed Choice Experiment: (original Thought Experiment)

Excerpt: Now, for many billions of years the photon is in transit in region 3. Yet we can choose (many billions of years later) which experimental set up to employ – the single wide-focus, or the two narrowly focused instruments. We have chosen whether to know which side of the galaxy the photon passed by (by choosing whether to use the two-telescope set up or not, which are the instruments that would give us the information about which side of the galaxy the photon passed). We have delayed this choice until a time long after the particles “have passed by one side of the galaxy, or the other side of the galaxy, or both sides of the galaxy,” so to speak. Yet, it seems paradoxically that our later choice of whether to obtain this information determines which side of the galaxy the light passed, so to speak, billions of years ago. So it seems that time has nothing to do with effects of quantum mechanics. And, indeed, the original thought experiment was not based on any analysis of how particles evolve and behave over time – it was based on the mathematics. This is what the mathematics predicted for a result, and this is exactly the result obtained in the laboratory.

The following experiment extended Wheeler’s delayed choice experiment:


The Experiment That Debunked Materialism – video – (delayed choice quantum eraser)

Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment Explained:

And here is another variation of Wheeler’s delayed choice experiment that was done with atoms instead of photons: Experiment confirms quantum theory weirdness – May 27, 2015

Excerpt: The bizarre nature of reality as laid out by quantum theory has survived another test, with scientists performing a famous experiment and proving that reality does not exist until it is measured.

Physicists at The Australian National University (ANU) have conducted John Wheeler’s delayed-choice thought experiment, which involves a moving object that is given the choice to act like a particle or a wave. Wheeler’s experiment then asks – at which point does the object decide?

Common sense says the object is either wave-like or particle-like, independent of how we measure it. But quantum physics predicts that whether you observe wave like behavior (interference) or particle behavior (no interference) depends only on how it is actually measured at the end of its journey. This is exactly what the ANU team found.

“It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it,” said Associate Professor Andrew Truscott from the ANU Research School of Physics and Engineering.

Despite the apparent weirdness, the results confirm the validity of quantum theory, which,, has enabled the development of many technologies such as LEDs, lasers and computer chips.

The ANU team not only succeeded in building the experiment, which seemed nearly impossible when it was proposed in 1978, but reversed Wheeler’s original concept of light beams being bounced by mirrors, and instead used atoms scattered by laser light.

“Quantum physics’ predictions about interference seem odd enough when applied to light, which seems more like a wave, but to have done the experiment with atoms, which are complicated things that have mass and interact with electric fields and so on, adds to the weirdness,” said Roman Khakimov, PhD student at the Research School of Physics and Engineering.

Comments
@J-Mac
CR: Huh? I fail to see how this [experiment debunked materialism].
You mean you haven’t failed to see the obvious before? Unless it happened in one of the other universes…
Nor has this explained how this experiment debunked materialism either. Humm..
Multiverse can also explain the theory of multi-pottie reality; which states that if you have enough universes and in each one of them enough potties, sh.. is bound to appear in one of the potties…
Nor does this... Well, it suggests you don't understand the theory very well. You seem to have confused the cosmological multiverse, as opposed to the multiverse of the many worlds theory of quantum mechanics.
There is no shred of evidence for either of the theories, but IF you are able to provide one piece of such evidence, I’m willing to offer you money for it… say all $1000.
There is no evidence "for" any theory in a positive sense. Theories explain evidence, not vice versa. However there is evidence "of" the multiverse, which is to say there is phenomena that is explained by that particular theory. In this case, the phenomena in question is explained by the interface of the same photon in other universes that took the other path. Specifically, all of physical reality refers not to what we would consider classical universes, but the multiverse. What we can observe is merely a sliver of the whole of physical reality because we too are quantized. The multiverse is what you get when you take the wave functions of quantum mechanics seriously. In fact, you have t add something to quantum mechanics to suggest observers themselves are not quantized like everything else.
So what?
So, that explains why the photons in question seem to "detect" the choice of the experimenters while in transit. That's why this doesn't "debunk materialism".critical rationalist
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@critical rationalist, Huh? I fail to see how this is the case. You mean you haven't failed to see the obvious before? Unless it happened in one of the other universes... The outcome of these experiments can be explained in that the whole of physical reality is actually the multiverse, in the many worlds theory of quantum mechanics, and is not limited to a single universe. Multiverse can also explain the theory of multi-pottie reality; which states that if you have enough universes and in each one of them enough potties, sh.. is bound to appear in one of the potties... There is no shred of evidence for either of the theories, but IF you are able to provide one piece of such evidence, I'm willing to offer you money for it... say all $1000. Specifically, the photons actually take both paths and interfere with each other. So what?J-Mac
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@Dionisio, Very interesting indeed, but above my pay grade. QM or even the world of QP is all about imagination... Einstein at an early age was able to thought experiment many of his ideas that later were proven by equations... I personally found that you can learn to only a certain degree but if you can't imagine how those things work in reality, it is of very little use... For example; can you imagine how space-time "adjust" to keep the speed of light constant at 1079252848.8 km/h on the car with the lights on travailing at 200 km/h? 1079252848.8 km/h +200 km/h should = 1079253048.8 km/h but it is aways 1079252848.8 km/h, because specetime adjusts to keep it constant...J-Mac
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The Experiment That Debunked Materialism
Huh? I fail to see how this is the case. The outcome of these experiments can be explained in that the whole of physical reality is actually the multiverse, in the many worlds theory of quantum mechanics, and is not limited to a single universe. Specifically, the photons actually take both paths and interfere with each other.critical rationalist
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Very interesting indeed, but above my pay grade. Welcome contributions from PC.Dionisio
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I love Phillip Cunningham! Every time he publishes something, he makes me doubt I know anything about QM at all... He may very well end up being right about his fundamental belief on "quantum soul"... So far, he has little evidence for it but...one never knows what PC is going to dig up... :-)J-Mac
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So it seems that time has nothing to do with effects of quantum mechanics. And, indeed, the original thought experiment was not based on any analysis of how particles evolve and behave over time – it was based on the mathematics. This is what the mathematics predicted for a result, and this is exactly the result obtained in the laboratory.
For a Bible believer, this shouldn't come as a surprise. Mathematics predicted the results. Proven Mathematics is obviously from God, since it even precedes the materialists' "big bang". Also Mathematics is obviously a language since it comprises symbols (i.e. alphabet), grammer (i.e. words, rules), and logic. So Proven Mathematics is therefore the Word of God and equates to Truth. And because Quantum Mechanics is accurately described by the Truth of Mathematics and therefore proven to be the specific Word of God, it has no problem being eternal; i.e. outside of past, present and/or future time based behavior. BA77 would have explained all this, if he were still hanging around this site,awstar
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