Uncommon Descent Serving The Intelligent Design Community

The rigor mortis of science: The war on measurement itself has commenced

Share
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn
Flipboard
Print
Email

Donna RileyFrom Notes and Comments at The New Criterion:

If you are thinking of building a bridge, be careful if your engineer went to Purdue University. Donna Riley, the head of the engineering department at Purdue, has put the world on notice that “rigor” is a dirty word. In an article for Engineering Education called “Rigor/Us: Building Boundaries and Disciplining Diversity with Standards of Merit,” Professor Riley, who is also the author of Engineering and Social Justice, argues that academic “rigor” is merely a blind for “white male heterosexual privilege.” Yes, really. “The term,” she writes, “has a historical lineage of being about hardness, stiffness, and erectness; its sexual connotations—and links to masculinity in particular—are undeniable.” There follows a truly surreal meditation on the existential and sexist depredations of slide rules—those hard, straight instruments that have traditionally been deployed by men…

More.

She then goes on to attack scientific knowledge itself as hopelessly sexist and colonial.

Unfortunately, there is no simple way of addressing this science-killer in the post-modern university environment that naturalism has spawned. Women who achieve in science will be portrayed as “selling out” because they are using methods developed by men, as if they were free to just go and invent new methods instead. Women who fail or just decide they aren’t suited to science will be portrayed are heroines or victims, not as people who simply chose to do something else.

Most science boffins so far are simply looking the other way, hoping to be destroyed last, instead of crying Shame! on such things.

But then they can’t, can they? Traditionally, science studied nature but was not naturalist. That is, scientists believed that there was an order of things that were really true. When they believed that, the value of qualities like objectivity and rigor was apparent to all. Tday, most probably believe that their consciousness is an illusion that enables their selfish genes to survive and nothing more. So they really have nothing to defend except their jobs.

See also: Scientific thinking patterns are for men only, say feminist profs

Can science survive long in a post-modern world? It’s not clear.

and

Can the rot of naturalism be stopped? Relating information to matter and energy might help

Comments
RV "I revel in knowing little, (very, very, little)" And yet you can't seem to resist the urge to pontificate on practically every subject that gets raised in these pages. Odd that.Barry Arrington
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
08:08 PM
8
08
08
PM
PDT
Upright BiPed @17, what I consider beautiful is probably similar to you; an ocean sunset, a mountain setting, cats playing, children laughing, old people holding hands, music, art, etc etc.. We are probably very similar here. Salvation!? If you mean physical, or mental salvation, for a heroine addict, drunk, wife beater, former communist, religious person, then I would say yes! Difficult but possible. But I suspect you are talking about, 'Spiritual Salvation', are you not? There unfortunately you leave the realm of the possible, and enter the land of, 'Nod'.rvb8
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
08:00 PM
8
08
00
PM
PDT
Barry, the sky has no particular colour. That is, if you are expecting the answer, 'blue'. This is the same kind of silly tautological phrase we used to get from the once great Bill O'Reilly, when explaining his indisputable philosophical approach to epistemology: "Sun comes up, sun goes down!" No Bill! The earth rotates. So Barry, as to your folksy, "What's the sky colour..." Try to be a little more nuanced in your observations, questions, and answers. The, 'one size fits all answer', is no answer. I revel in knowing little, (very, very, little), it enables me to, 'imagine', have 'curiosity'. I pity ID folk, because they already know everything. What a tiny universe you inhabit.rvb8
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:51 PM
7
07
51
PM
PDT
rv, I wouldn't ask you about beauty or salvation even if you had something to say. I'm asking what discovery disproves "the supernatural", and why no one has ever heard of it.Upright BiPed
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:40 PM
7
07
40
PM
PDT
rvb8
You see, being an atheist materialist, puts you in the wonderful position of knowing how little you actually know.
What color is the sky in the alternate universe where you live rv? A-Mats are the most cocksure and hidebound people I have ever dealt with. You should get out more.Barry Arrington
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:37 PM
7
07
37
PM
PDT
johnnyb @13, good well made point. If Behe must carry a banner around his neck for holding absurd views, then the professors who hold views such as those shown here, should also be held up for ridicule: I'm with you on this!rvb8
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:36 PM
7
07
36
PM
PDT
Thermodynamics, Gravity, Chemical Reaction, Atomic Force, Electro-Magnetism, and the utter undeniable fact, that these forces, and processes can not be breached, or gain said. Your turn to waffle about beauty, redemption, Ephesians, salvation, and the Devil.rvb8
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:31 PM
7
07
31
PM
PDT
I understand that academics has a tenure aspect. Even given that, the reason that you shouldn't enroll in Purdue for engineering is that they don't hang a sign on the window the way that Lehigh does about Mike Behe. Their website should say, "this professor is free to express her views, but the university does not endorse them in any way whatsoever." Any "pro-science" group that dishes it out harder to other schools and programs teaching creationism than they do to Purdue is simply full of crap. I should preface the previous that this assumes that "The New Criterion" is presenting her views accurately. I don't know that this is the case, and, given our own position, we shouldn't assume that to be the case.johnnyb
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:30 PM
7
07
30
PM
PDT
Really? Which discovery disproves "the supernatural" rv, and how did it do it? It seems like someone in science and/or philosophy might have heard of it.Upright BiPed
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:25 PM
7
07
25
PM
PDT
News, you do realise that being, 'outraged', by every stupidly outrageous claim, or belief, leaves you open to the accusation of being, 'thin skinned', or a, 'snow flake'. Be like us atheist materialists, and look upon all stupidity with a shrug, and a, 'meh!' You see, being an atheist materialist, puts you in the wonderful position of knowing how little you actually know. Thus we embrace our evolved stupidity, and are not, 'offended' by every little stupid person. It also enables us to humbly accept new discoveries, that time, and time again, disprove the, "supernatural".rvb8
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:16 PM
7
07
16
PM
PDT
This creature destroys its/her/ves/ums/zirs own argument with the bizarre nonsense about "hard rigid" slide rules. In fact slide rules are squishy and subjective, requiring several levels of HUMAN interpretation by the user. Computers are hard and rigid. Students who learn engineering with computers are more distant from the soft human aspect of the structures or circuits they build. They are less tolerant and less empathetic toward human variation and human error.polistra
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
03:41 PM
3
03
41
PM
PDT
News Many posters besides myself have pointed out that ideas and worldviews have consequences. Postmodernism, philosophical naturalism, the jettisoning of absolutes,etc, will continue to lead to the sawing off the branch upon which science sits. I’m not surprised by Riley’s position and I doubt you are as well. Vividvividbleau
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
02:57 PM
2
02
57
PM
PDT
While there may be no silver bullet for this variety of idiocy, there is one thing we can do: Don't enroll at the schools where this nonsense is taught, don't hire people who list credentials from these schools in their CV's, and let our children know that if they want us to pay their tuition, they should avoid these schools.EvilSnack
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
01:43 PM
1
01
43
PM
PDT
Groovamos at 4 and 5, thanks for clarification. So there are still people studying engineering out there who think that engineering matters? Good. we use a lot of roads and bridges here where I live. Seversky at 6, no one is questioning her right to do this; many of us do not wish to fund it at the expense of real engineering or to in any way confuse the two. Post-modernism is essential to understanding why she even IS funded. Modernists were often atheists but they have not tended to believe that nonsense is just as valid as any other form of self-expression.News
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
12:25 PM
12
12
25
PM
PDT
She then goes on to attack scientific knowledge itself as hopelessly sexist and colonial. Unfortunately, there is no simple way of addressing this science-killer in the post-modern university environment that naturalism has spawned
Unfortunately, this sort of nonsense is the price you pay for academic freedom. It doesn't derive from naturalism, though, more like lit-crit and sociology of science perspectives.Seversky
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
12:00 PM
12
12
00
PM
PDT
Correction - there is actually a school of engineering education at Purdue and the woman is the dean. You go to the webpage and it is about as confusing as you would expect. They funnel their 1st year students into engineering but so far as an undergraduate course catalog for the "school" I can't find it. They do teach some courses for people who want an engineering background but do not want to practice engineering.. Here is the page maybe you guys can figure out what they do: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ENE Maybe they only offer advanced degrees in polemics or something: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ENE/InfoFor/GraduateStudentsgroovamos
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
11:49 AM
11
11
49
AM
PDT
I'm a little peeverd at The New Criterion for not getting it more accurately. The woman is the head of the "engineering education" department (whatever that is you might ask), not the dean of the engineering school. The only "engineering departments" I know of are at schools with pre-engineering programs to prepare students to transfer to university. Several state universities around the country have established "engineering education" departments where they teach SJW's who cannot make the grade in engineering. So they accept them into the "engineering education" departments where they teach them that science, math, and engineering are sexist and racist disciplines, and then teach them how to write papers to spew their polemics to the rest of the world.groovamos
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
11:22 AM
11
11
22
AM
PDT
Very well stated, gp.tribune7
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
09:28 AM
9
09
28
AM
PDT
tribune7: Absolutely! See my comment #285 here: https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/the-spliceosome-a-molecular-machine-that-defies-any-non-design-explanation/#comment-647693gpuccio
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
09:13 AM
9
09
13
AM
PDT
We have to recognize is that science is a good thing and these people are its enemies. And as hard as it is for some to understand, that makes us -- those who believe in absolutes like truth -- the pro-science side.tribune7
January 7, 2018
January
01
Jan
7
07
2018
07:30 AM
7
07
30
AM
PDT
1 2

Leave a Reply