Reader: Harris basically reduces everything to atomic physics and says all causality happens there, so the world is deterministic (i.e. no free will). While I vehemently disagree with that idea, I do respect that at least he can articulate himself well.
Do you have any thoughts on the matter?
Eric Holloway: A deterministic physical world does not imply that free will doesn’t exist. Look at it as an argument in four steps:
- Free will is not deterministic.
- The physical world is deterministic.
- Free will does not exist.
Harris needs to fill in missing step 3 to arrive at his conclusion. One possible premise is that the physical world is all that exists. But, Harris would need to demonstrate that point. It isn’t obviously true.
— Eric Holloway, “Why do atheists still claim free will can’t exist?” at Mind Matters News
Maybe Harris will clarify matters.
Maybe they’ll be throwing snowballs in Hell’s kitchen.
[Wait! The devil is at the door, trying to borrow a snow shovel. maybe Harris will explain too… 😉 ]
See: Sam Harris reduces everything to physics but then ignores quantum non-determinism A reader, listening to his podcast with Judea Pearl, asks how he can be so sure everything is determined by physical forces.
Further reading from Mind Matters News on free will:
Younger thinkers now argue that free will is real. The laws of physics do not rule it out, they say.
Quantum randomness gives nature free will. Whether or not quantum randomness explains how our brains work, it may help us create unbreakable encryption codes. (Robert J. Marks)
Do quasars provide evidence for free will? Possibly. They certainly rule out experimenter interference.
Is free will a dangerous myth? The denial of free will is a much more dangerous myth.
Can physics prove there is no free will? No, but it can make physicists incoherent when they write about free will. It’s hilarious. Sabine Hossenfelder misses the irony that she insists that people “change their minds” by accepting her assertion that they… can’t change their minds.
Does “alien hand syndrome” show that we don’t really have free will? One woman’s left hand seemed to have a mind of its own. Did it? Alien hand syndrome doesn’t mean that free will is not real. In fact, it clarifies exactly what free will is and what it isn’t.
How can mere products of nature have free will? Materialists don’t like the outcome of their philosophy but twisting logic won’t change it.
Does brain stimulation research challenge free will? If we can be forced to want something, is the will still free?
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