teleology vs. teleonomy – Uncommon Descent

Remember that Linnean Society conference, Teleonomy vs. Teleology?

Some friends, virtually attending, say that the real purpose is to assume the language of purpose in nature while denying any purpose. What they cannot any longer deny, they will reprocess.

William J Murray To sum up what I presented in comments #198 & #199, inasmuch as anything has ever been proved, the afterlife... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
Origenes SB @ But there are many witnesses to your existence. I, for example, have access to your soul because I... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
polistra Some of these aren't really paradoxes, just confusions. Ravens and Apples starts with a pure propositional logic statement, then takes... – At Medium: Six scientific paradoxes on...
Bob O'H Why should we believe that this change is a form of evolution at all, as opposed to an existing capacity... – Lizards “evolve” in just a few...
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Lieutenant Commander Data Let not forget that the Jews think that the devil is good. Go figure that. "The devil is praying for... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
martin_r yes, Chimps are very like humans ... i heard, that a group of chimpanzees sent a probe to Mars recently... – At Mind Matters News: Chimps who...
martin_r Polistra, well said... but you know, Darwinists also claim, that high intelligence and complex brains evolved multiple times independently, there... – At Mind Matters News: Chimps who...
polistra Birds can figure this out. The more interesting question is why birds and humans are so similar, not why chimps... – At Mind Matters News: Chimps who...
StephenB . Origenes:When I say “I exist” I do not refer to my body. Perhaps you do, as you have said... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
es58 Polistra@1 he’s still missing the crucial analog vs digital difference Tell us more – Michael Levin on the Engineering Approach...
kairosfocus Ram, Isa 52:13 - 53:12. Notice the discussion in the already linked video, above. KF – Materialists Know What They Say is...
kairosfocus SB, I suggest that the testimony of a known habitually truthful person is adequate warrant for practical purposes so residual... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
kairosfocus Origenes, you have long since been adequately answered. Indeed, you were present when such matters were discussed in a series... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
kairosfocus VL, we both know about first principles of right reason, are educated in reasoning and linked warrant, including for Mathematics... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
zweston Ram, listening to this... Tovia says that Jews that receive Jesus as savior are headed for hell and will miss... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
Origenes Ste[henB @233 A claim rises to the level of objective fact only if it is knowable by those other than... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
zweston Ram, who is the subject of Isaiah 52 & 53? Ram, how do you have your sins atoned for now?... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
StephenB Origenes: If this is true, than no subjective claims exist. Even to claim that one prefers vanilla flavor ice-cream over... – Materialists Know What They Say is...
PaV Jerry: Several things. No one is underestimating Mendel. Certainly not me. But modern genetics is the heritability of characteristics. That... – Another layer of protection for DNA...
bornagain77 ChuckyD, "and that is really the point…" Failure in logic 101 ChuckyD Seversky claimed that living in an imperfect world... – Nathan Lents argues that the human...