BREAKING: President Trump, Mrs Trump & Ms Hicks are Positive for CV-19

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Tonight, @ FLOTUS and I tested positive for COVID-19. We will begin our quarantine and recovery process immediately. We will get through this TOGETHER!
— Donald J. Trump (@ realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2020

Hope Hicks, who has been working so hard without even taking a small break, has just tested positive for Covid 19. Terrible! The First Lady and I are waiting for our test results. In the meantime, we will begin our quarantine process!
— Donald J. Trump (@ realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2020

When you thought an extraordinarily chaotic year could not pull out another twist. Well, here it is. END

PS: As broad context

PPS: For reference on HCQ

Also:

PPPS: A sampler from a former CEO, Twitter (cf discussion at Forbes [also here]) commented on by Michelle Malkin, a few days ago:

See, now, that this is NOT a normal silly season cycle?

PPPPS: A summary on the U/L trajectory of CV19:

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ET: And same-sex marriage is still unnatural. So it should not be allowed on that ground alone. Do you have any legal reasons it should not be allowed?JVL_{October 7, 2020
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ET, Do you anticipate an appearance by this guy soon? 😂daveS_{October 7, 2020
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KF, Yes, not anabolic of course. Not sure why that bears mentioning. Neither of us is a physician, but what was going on with his erratic behavior yesterday? Canceling stimulus negotiations until after the election? Then trying to reopen them a few hours later? Nuts! Edit: FTR, he sent 200 tweets and retweets yesterday.daveS_{October 7, 2020
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DS, first, the steroids were not anabolic, and what I glanced at to confirm current activity were not manic. I did not necessarily like the NY Contractor in chief tone, but the projections and accusations are over the top; some are outright conspiracism. KFkairosfocus_{October 7, 2020
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It is very telling that the lefties are mum on the new documents showing that Hillary, Biden and Obama all had a hand in the FBI trying to dig up dirt on Trump back in 2016. They started the Russian collusion BS. What they did was very illegal. Yet the lefties here have nothing to say about it. Very telling, thatET_{October 7, 2020
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Wow. Ignoring the lefty meltdowns is a sure sign of agenda-driven bias, daves. Just look at the shite he was responding to.ET_{October 7, 2020
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ET, Yes, epic and not in a good way. Reminiscent of Kanye's recent meltdowns.daveS_{October 7, 2020
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The tweet storm was epic? The new attacks have been epic loser left spewage. It is beyond pathetic that people attack Trump but leave the losers who started it alone.ET_{October 7, 2020
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Mac and cheese is just another insipid troll. The lefty media has been attacking Trump before he became the President. The lefty media is full of liars and losers. Their lies have been well documented. Their fear-mongering has been well documented. And same-sex marriage is still unnatural. So it should not be allowed on that ground alone. The next progression will be to allow all marriages for the SAME reasons we allow same-sex marriage.ET_{October 7, 2020
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Also that steroid apparently can induce mania. And yesterday's tweet storm was epic.daveS_{October 7, 2020
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F/N: Daily Mail:
Joe Biden now says the second debate next week should be CANCELED if Donald Trump stays COVID positive and tells the president to stay off Twitter after his flurry of tweets from his East Wing quarantine Biden said Tuesday that the debate should be called off if Trump still has COVID Next debate is scheduled for October 15 and a third is scheduled for October 22 Trump returned to the White House on Monday after three days of treatment for COVID-19 at the Walter Reed National Military Medical Center Biden's campaign says he tested negative for COVID-19 earlier on Tuesday By Valerie Edwards For Dailymail.com Published: 01:27 BST, 7 October 2020 | Updated: 07:19 BST, 7 October 2020
The Med people were saying through Press Secretary yesterday, that they would monitor through the weekend. Of course the PCR test detects remnants so the virus free question is debatable. If we are to take the tweeting index someone suggested, Mr Trump is back as NY Contractor in chief. I think he claimed to be feeling better than 20 years ago, when he was mid 50's. (I guess a few days enforced bed rest did him some good.) KFkairosfocus_{October 7, 2020
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MMT, You continue to inadvertently demonstrate the point, by continuing to set up and knock over strawman targets, projecting mischaracterisations while evading a laying out of inescapable, self-evident principles. Principles, of truth, right reason, prudence, fairness etc that you are forced to implicitly appeal to even as you seek to subvert. I therefore again put up for record, what you so studiously evade:
We can readily identify at least seven inescapable first duties of reason. Inescapable, as they are so antecedent to reasoning that even the objector implicitly appeals to them; i.e. they are self-evident. Duties, to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such built in law is not invented by parliaments or courts, nor can these principles and duties be abolished by such. (Cf. Cicero in De Legibus, c. 50 BC.) Indeed, it is on this framework that we can set out to soundly understand and duly balance rights, freedoms and duties; which is justice. The legitimate main task of government, then, is to uphold and defend the civil peace of justice through sound community order reflecting the built in, intelligible law of our nature. Where, as my right implies your duty a true right is a binding moral claim to be respected in life, liberty, honestly aquired property, innocent reputation etc. To so justly claim a right, one must therefore demonstrably be in the right. Thus, too, we may compose sound civil law informed by that built-in law of our responsibly, rationally free morally governed nature; from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law. These duties, also, are a framework for understanding and articulating the corpus of built-in law of our morally governed nature, antecedent to civil laws and manifesting our roots in the Supreme Law-giver, the inherently good, utterly wise and just creator-God.
Notice, the stated premise of sound reformation: "from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law." This, you studiously evaded in setting up and knocking over a strawman. That studious evasiveness of the manifestly self-evident, in turn, inadvertently reveals disregard for the mutuality of said principles and considerations tied to them, such as that there is built in moral governance, i.e. intelligible natural law that provides the framework of duties that guide responsible, rational significantly free creatures. Law, that is therefore discovered, recognised as self-evident and enduring -- as much so, as that 2 + 3 = 5 i/l/o || + ||| --> ||||| (which pivots on first principles of reason such as distinct identity . . . ) -- rather than invented and imposed by might and/or manipulation. Notice, here, how three distinct units united with two further ones necessarily, inescapably yields five distinct units. Something that one with experience to understand will readily see vas so and as necessarily so on pain of instant, patent absurdity. Just so, error exists is undeniably so not merely empirically so as attempted denial presents us with a case in point. And so forth. Part of our dilemma is the denial of self-evident, manifestly intelligible antecedent first truths that we are duty-bound to respect. For further example, Epictetus on first principles of reason:
DISCOURSES CHAPTER XXV How is logic necessary? When someone in [Epictetus'] audience said, Convince me that logic is necessary, he answered: Do you wish me to demonstrate this to you?—Yes.—Well, then, must I use a demonstrative argument?—And when the questioner had agreed to that, Epictetus asked him. How, then, will you know if I impose upon you?—As the man had no answer to give, Epictetus said: Do you see how you yourself admit that all this instruction is necessary, if, without it, you cannot so much as know whether it is necessary or not? [Notice, inescapable, thus self evidently true and antecedent to the inferential reasoning that provides deductive proofs and frameworks, including axiomatic systems and propositional calculus etc. Cf J. C. Wright]
The educational amputation that has blinded us to such is crippling our ability to think straight. The resulting breakdown of this understanding and mutuality regarding first duties constituting built in intelligible law that governs our rational freedom is precisely the root of radicalisation and source of undermining buttresses of responsible, constitutional self-government of democratic character. This is also the manifestation of exactly the radicalisation that drives the ever deepening hostility of ideological polarisation that has now reached 4GW civil insurgency that now steadily climbs the insurgency escalator I highlighted yesterday. There is a breach of the civil compact and it comes from those who imagine themselves champions of progress. They fail to understand that a breakdown of the civil compact leading to chaos then imposition of ideological, fundamentally lawless oligarchy is a slide into the vortex of tyranny, progressive ruin. I will simply note that genuine equality and rights, i.e. justice and fairness, pivot on said first duties of responsible reason. As a direct consequence, fundamental rights are not impositions of power but pivot on manifestly, demonstrably being in the right and in balance with the core rights of all. For, there is no justice, fairness or equity in compelling others to do or uphold evil and lies (such as that a man is a woman or a woman a man etc on their say so . . . yes, such an absurdity shows just how warped this is) under false colours and ceremonies of law expressed in decrees of oppression. What is a man profited if he gains the whole world at cost of tainting, fatally warping, losing and damning his own soul. And yes, the atheist's veto here reveals its true, lawless character. I have no desire to further side track a discussion that has a different main focus, so I will simply note for record. 1: The lasting abolition of slavery and rise of civil rights movements, was driven by the recognition by a growing mass of people (in key part influenced by the conscience softening impact of the Wesley-Whitefield revivals and successors) that the principles in the US declaration were true and mandated significant change, breaking the moral power of the hitherto dominant oligarchic interests. 2: In turn (and as repeatedly pointed out on abundant history but studiously evaded through the Wilsonian rhetorical side-step), that trend was rooted in the rise of printing, publication of vernacular Bibles, rise of literacy, development of bills, tracts, newspapers and coffee shops etc that allowed development of informed public opinion and democratisation. 3: Key markers of that process are the Glorious Revolution of 1688 -9 and the American one 1776 - 79. For the first time in history, it became possible to move beyond oligarchy to constitutions creating representational self-government of democratic character, motivated by key principles of lawful liberty drawn from the natural law and its extension from first duties of reason. As was pointed out above but was predictably studiously evaded in a rush to strawman tactic evasions. 4: These are clearly documented and demonstrable on sound history, but alas there has been studious manipulation of education and public discussion that drives a hostile emotive response to sound principle and undeniable facts. Thus, we see enmity to truth and lawfulness, reflected in the cynical exploitation of first duties of reason by the critical theories that derive from Marxism historically as is plainly admitted (history that is being subverted yet again). 5: The 1619 project championed by the New York Times and infiltrating education systems, in particular, is a glaring example, revealing the corrupt nature of so-called Critical Race Theory. I note for record again, Enc Brit on that theory:
Critical race theory (CRT), the view that the law and legal institutions are inherently racist and that race itself, instead of being biologically grounded and natural, is a socially constructed concept that is used by white people to further their economic and political interests at the expense of people of colour. According to critical race theory (CRT), racial inequality emerges from the social, economic, and legal differences that white people create between “races” [--> they refuse to recognise the manifest fact that a Chinese couple or an Indian one will have children of distinct, readily recognised character, or that mixed couples will have children with shared character, tracing to genetic deposit] to maintain elite white interests in labour markets [--> the marxist labour theory of value thesis that seeks to delegitimise the value of managerial, entrepreneurial and investor services, linked risk premiums, and the ownership of savings, investments, and physical or intellectual capital] and politics, [ --> attempt to subvert the principles recognised in 1776, using acknowledged painful compromises to subvert appreciation for the force of said principles and courage to declare what one struggled to achieve] giving rise to poverty and criminality in many minority communities. [--> poverty at subsistence level is the natural malthusian circumstance, it is wealth building growth, economic-technological transformation and widely shared prosperity that require serious explanation and cumulative prudent effort, which are being undermined by said theory] The CRT movement officially organized itself in 1989, at the first annual Workshop on Critical Race Theory, though its intellectual origins go back much further, to the 1960s and ’70s.
6: Where, sound reformation builds on that mutual understanding, it does not subvert it. Such subversion is precisely what we now face. I could go on and on, but the above is enough for the responsible. KFkairosfocus_{October 7, 2020
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KF, you appear to believe that there are no progressive movements since 1776 that are not Marxist, evil, agit prop nonsense. Yet, there was the abolition movement. The civil rights movement. The labor movement. The feminist movement. The LGBQ movement. The environmental movement. The equal rights movement. And many more. All progressive movements that have greatly improved our society.Mac McTavish_{October 6, 2020
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MMT, you have made the usual red herring led away to a strawman argument. Typical, and a sign of desperation to push through a radical agenda that cannot stand up to the classic principles of lawful liberty that lie at the foundation of constitutional democracy. What we cannot change at will is the clear, demonstrated record of history, on pain of turning from truth to fictitious, agenda-serving narratives; such as the 1619 project pushed by NYT. The cited facts document where our heritage has come from, the principles that are the bedrock foundation of the breakthrough of 1776. Where, the rejection or willy-nilly dismissal and distortion of those principles to serve agendas will predictably lead to marches of folly and destructive chaos. Indeed, that is precisely the consistent record of a long string of radical revolutions from 1789 on that are not restrained by the keystone natural law premise of justice, the due balance of rights, freedoms and responsibilities shaped by our inescapably morally governed nature reflected in the self-evident first duties of reason. Where, we cannot but observe how you must appeal to said duties even as you try to twist them to suit radical agendas. Accordingly, let me refocus my core points that have been repeatedly put on the table month after month without a cogent answer, points that you will readily see reflect Cicero, Moses, Jesus, Paul, Justinian's Jurisconsults, Alfred's Book of Dooms, Samuel Langton's Magna Carta, Blackstone's common law frame of thought, William of Orange and co, as well as the US framers . . . building a consensus that has been a guiding star to modern, sound constitutional government:
We can readily identify at least seven inescapable first duties of reason. Inescapable, as they are so antecedent to reasoning that even the objector implicitly appeals to them; i.e. they are self-evident. Duties, to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such built in law is not invented by parliaments or courts, nor can these principles and duties be abolished by such. (Cf. Cicero in De Legibus, c. 50 BC.) Indeed, it is on this framework that we can set out to soundly understand and duly balance rights, freedoms and duties; which is justice. The legitimate main task of government, then, is to uphold and defend the civil peace of justice through sound community order reflecting the built in, intelligible law of our nature. Where, as my right implies your duty a true right is a binding moral claim to be respected in life, liberty, honestly aquired property, innocent reputation etc. To so justly claim a right, one must therefore demonstrably be in the right. Thus, too, we may compose sound civil law informed by that built-in law of our responsibly, rationally free morally governed nature; from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law. These duties, also, are a framework for understanding and articulating the corpus of built-in law of our morally governed nature, antecedent to civil laws and manifesting our roots in the Supreme Law-giver, the inherently good, utterly wise and just creator-God.
You clearly cannot soundly answer so you have resorted to strawman tactics and the attempted nihilism of will to power leading to who controls rule making institutions can do as s/he wills. It doesn't work like that. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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RH7, really. Dr Raoult's research institute is housed in a four-hospital 3500 or so bed cluster with extensive facilities. Remember, he was able to whistle up multiple CT scans for 500+ patients, showing lung damage before symptoms were readily apparent. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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KF@196, exactly when did people stop having input into how our civilization should be run? Was it in 347 BC? 50 BC? 1 BC? 1776? Are you so blind that you can’t acknowledge that people in the present generation should have something to say about how their lives should be led?Mac McTavish_{October 6, 2020
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Dr Raoult’s latest hypothesis is a real treat... Finally, questioned on the management of the epidemic by the States, Professor Raoult believes that “Western Europe and the United States are doing rather less well than other countries in the world (...) perhaps because our populations are too reactive or too emotional ”. http://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/coronavirus-didier-raoult-s-inquiete-d-une-nouvelle-mutation-plus-virulente-20201006 That must explain the virus running through the White House, no?rhampton7_{October 6, 2020
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Remember Dr Raoult’s miraculous HCQ cure in Spring, when the virus was more virulent and lethal? Remember the impossible to reproduce figures from his reports? Well... Is there really no resuscitation bed at Didier Raoult's IHU? THE VERIFICATION - Renaud Muselier, president of the PACA regional council and support of the Marseille professor, affirmed it, arousing the astonishment of many Internet users. The scene took place on September 28, on the set of CNews . Visibly indignant by the fact that the Minister of Health Olivier Véran did not meet members of the Institut hospitalo-universitaire (IHU) Méditerranée Infection during his visit to Marseille three days earlier, the journalist Pascal Praud asks for the Right to Renaud Muselier, president of the PACA regional council and support from Didier Raoult. He replied that the visit concerned the risk of saturation of intensive care services in Marseille. But " there are no intensive care beds at the IHU ", he blurted out. Pascal Praud is amazed. " They don't have resuscitation beds at the IHU?" ". It should be remembered that the intensive care services welcome the patients most seriously affected by Covid. Logically, it is these services that record the highest Covid-19 mortality rates https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/n-y-a-t-il-vraiment-aucun-lit-de-reanimation-a-l-ihu-de-didier-raoult-nbsp-20201006rhampton7_{October 6, 2020
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I thought not lying was a moral imperative?
Well I am glad you cannot provide anything significant. Lying can range from telling a 4 yr old that Santa is coming soon to not telling someone you are defrauding him or her of their life savings and even far beyond that. Thirty people once showed at a restaurant for my wife’s 40th birthday and I told her we were only meeting an old friend for dinner. She believed me. People flew from California to New York for the dinner. Lying can mean a lot of things. Not all have the same effect.jerry_{October 6, 2020
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DS, of course you know there are commemoratives for just about any conceivable thing. I doubt they will hold collector's value. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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MMT, that you profess dubiousness and revert to relativistic power games as to WHO determines are already pretty good confirmation of my basic point about the attempted cultural revolution. However, history is a little hard to change when it's in something as pivotal and transformational as the US Doi, 1776:
When . . . it becomes necessary for one people . . . to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, [cf Rom 1:18 - 21, 2:14 - 15 . . . yes, that is context of the Christian synthesis of the heritage of Jerusalem, Athens and Rome], that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security . . . . We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions [Cf. Judges 11:27 and related discussion in Locke], do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
A directly ancestral document from the Dutch Republic -- Jefferson and Adams made direct reference to the Dutch as an exemplar and the chain of ideas is plain -- from 1581 under William the silent of Orange gives key background:
. . . a prince is constituted by God to be ruler of a people, to defend them from oppression and violence as the shepherd his sheep; and whereas God did not create the people slaves to their prince, to obey his commands, whether right or wrong, but rather the prince for the sake of the subjects (without which he could be no prince), to govern them according to equity, to love and support them as a father his children or a shepherd his flock, and even at the hazard of life to defend and preserve them. And when he does not behave thus, but, on the contrary, oppresses them, seeking opportunities to infringe their ancient customs and privileges . . . then he is no longer a prince, but a tyrant, and the subjects are to consider him in no other view . . . This is the only method left for subjects whose humble petitions and remonstrances could never soften their prince or dissuade him from his tyrannical proceedings; and this is what the law of nature dictates for the defense of liberty, which we ought to transmit to posterity, even at the hazard of our lives. . . . . So, having no hope of reconciliation, and finding no other remedy, we have, agreeable to the law of nature in our own defense, and for maintaining the rights, privileges, and liberties of our countrymen, wives, and children, and latest posterity from being enslaved by the Spaniards, been constrained to renounce allegiance to the King of Spain [Philip II], and pursue such methods as appear to us most likely to secure our ancient liberties and privileges.
Then, there is Blackstone on natural law context:
Man, considered as a creature, must necessarily be subject to the laws of his creator, for he is entirely a dependent being . . . consequently, as man depends absolutely upon his maker for every thing, it is necessary that he should in all points conform to his maker's will. This will of his maker is called the law of nature. For as God, when he created matter, and endued it with a principle of mobility, established certain rules for the perpetual direction of that motion; so, when he created man, and endued him with freewill to conduct himself in all parts of life, he laid down certain immutable laws of human nature, whereby that freewill is in some degree regulated and restrained, and gave him also the faculty of reason to discover the purport of those laws . . . These are the eternal, immutable laws of good and evil, to which the creator himself in all his dispensations conforms; and which he has enabled human reason to discover, so far as they are necessary for the conduct of human actions. Such among others are these principles: that we should live honestly [NB: cf. Exod. 20:15 - 16], should hurt nobody [NB: cf. Rom 13:8 - 10], and should render to every one his due [NB: cf. Rom 13:6 - 7 & Exod. 20:15]; to which three general precepts Justinian[1: a Juris praecepta sunt hace, honeste vivere. alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere. Inst, 1. 1. 3] has reduced the whole doctrine of law [and, Corpus Juris, Justinian's Christianised precis and pruning of perhaps 1,000 years of Roman jurisprudence, in turn is the foundation of law for much of Europe]. [Parenthetical remarks and emphases added.]
Where of course I would welcome the links to the TV Programme that regularly features ghosts of these worthies and others back to, say, Cicero. Oh yes, Cicero:
—Marcus [in de Legibus, introductory remarks,. C1 BC, being Cicero himself]: . . . the subject of our present discussion . . . comprehends the universal principles of equity and law. In such a discussion therefore on the great moral law of nature, the practice of the civil law can occupy but an insignificant and subordinate station. For according to our idea, we shall have to explain the true nature of moral justice, which is congenial and correspondent [36]with the true nature of man.
[--> Note, how justice and our built in nature as a morally governed class of creatures are highlighted; thus framing the natural law frame: recognising built-in law that we do not create nor can we repeal, which then frames a sound understanding of justice. Without such an anchor, law inevitably reduces to the sort of ruthless, nihilistic might- and- manipulation- make- "right,"- "truth,"- "knowledge,"- "law"- and- "justice"- etc power struggle and chaos Plato warned against in The Laws Bk X.]
We shall have to examine those principles of legislation by which all political states should be governed. And last of all, shall we have to speak of those laws and customs which are framed for the use and convenience of particular peoples, which regulate the civic and municipal affairs of the citizens, and which are known by the title of civil laws. Quintus [his real-life brother]. —You take a noble view of the subject, my brother, and go to the fountain–head of moral truth, in order to throw light on the whole science of jurisprudence: while those who confine their legal studies to the civil law too often grow less familiar with the arts of justice than with those of litigation. Marcus. —Your observation, my Quintus, is not quite correct. It is not so much the science of law that produces litigation, as the ignorance of it, (potius ignoratio juris litigiosa est quam scientia) . . . . With respect to the true principle of justice, many learned men have maintained that it springs from Law. I hardly know if their opinion be not correct, at least, according to their own definition; for “Law (say they) is the highest reason, implanted in nature, which prescribes those things which ought to be done, and forbids the contrary.” This, they think, is apparent from the converse of the proposition; because this same reason, when it [37]is confirmed and established in men’s minds, is the law of all their actions. They therefore conceive that the voice of conscience is a law, that moral prudence is a law, whose operation is to urge us to good actions, and restrain us from evil ones. They think, too, that the Greek name for law (NOMOS), which is derived from NEMO, to distribute, implies the very nature of the thing, that is, to give every man his due. [--> this implies a definition of justice as the due balance of rights, freedoms and responsibilities] For my part, I imagine that the moral essence of law is better expressed by its Latin name, (lex), which conveys the idea of selection or discrimination. According to the Greeks, therefore, the name of law implies an equitable distribution of goods: according to the Romans, an equitable discrimination between good and evil. The true definition of law should, however, include both these characteristics. And this being granted as an almost self–evident proposition, the origin of justice is to be sought in the divine law of eternal and immutable morality. This indeed is the true energy of nature, the very soul and essence of wisdom, the test of virtue and vice.
You know where I have taken such thinking, in compressed form:
We can readily identify at least seven inescapable first duties of reason. Inescapable, as they are so antecedent to reasoning that even the objector implicitly appeals to them; i.e. they are self-evident. Duties, to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such built in law is not invented by parliaments or courts, nor can these principles and duties be abolished by such. (Cf. Cicero in De Legibus, c. 50 BC.) Indeed, it is on this framework that we can set out to soundly understand and duly balance rights, freedoms and duties; which is justice. The legitimate main task of government, then, is to uphold and defend the civil peace of justice through sound community order reflecting the built in, intelligible law of our nature. Where, as my right implies your duty a true right is a binding moral claim to be respected in life, liberty, honestly aquired property, innocent reputation etc. To so justly claim a right, one must therefore demonstrably be in the right. Thus, too, we may compose sound civil law informed by that built-in law of our responsibly, rationally free morally governed nature; from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law. These duties, also, are a framework for understanding and articulating the corpus of built-in law of our morally governed nature, antecedent to civil laws and manifesting our roots in the Supreme Law-giver, the inherently good, utterly wise and just creator-God.
Things like that . . . Until the repudiation of that inheritance, such has been central. That is the fight, over the key foundations and buttresses of a constitutional republic, of significant but carefully regulated democratic character. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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The $100 “Trump defeats COVID” coins are for sale on the website of the White House Gift Shop, which is not affiliated with the White House.
lol. Or, just three easy payments of $39.99. Perfect for display in your home or trailer.daveS_{October 6, 2020
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Coins commemorating President Donald Trump surviving COVID-19 are already available for preorder at an online gift shop. The $100 “Trump defeats COVID” coins are for sale on the website of the White House Gift Shop, which is not affiliated with the White House.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/10/05/trump-defeats-covid-commemorative-coins-on-sale-gift-shop/3628383001/ And https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/trump-defeats-covid.htmJVL_{October 6, 2020
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Jerry,
Why don’t you list the biggest lies and their consequences?
I thought not lying was a moral imperative?daveS_{October 6, 2020
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KF
MMT, in recent decades, the US progressivists have become ever more radical, polarising US politics through breakdown of consensus on core values and understanding/principles.
Who determines what these core values are? At one time the consensus on core values was that a woman’s place was in the home. That she should obey her husband. That she should be paid less for the same job because a man in the same position had to support a family. That a husband was entitled to physically “correct” his wife. That a 13 year old rape victim must be forced to continue with the pregnancy. That homosexuals should be jailed or forced into conversion therapy. That we shouldn’t be allowed to marry the person we love because they are of the same gender. That we should be denied employment because we happen to be gay.Mac McTavish_{October 6, 2020
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Prager has claimed to be taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic for months.
I know others who are also doing so. In some states doctors will prescribe it as an prophylactic while in others you must have symptoms and in some they make it extremely difficult even if you test positive.jerry_{October 6, 2020
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But when you have a world leader who has been caught in thousands of easily confirmed lies, how do you expect the media to deal with it?
Why don’t you list the biggest lies and their consequences? That way we will know what is bothering you and then we can find out why it is not bothering others. Please don’t say there are so many because that just means there are none of consequence.jerry_{October 6, 2020
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On Monday, the talk show host and “PragerU” founder Dennis Prager blamed the “communists running medicine” for suppressing discussion about hydroxychloroquine, but questioned why it hadn’t come up in Trump’s treatment plan. “They didn’t discuss it ‘yea’ or ‘nay’ with regard to the President,” he said. “The President was the one who recommended it to begin with. You’d think something would have been said. Isn’t that the obvious question everybody would have?” Prager has claimed to be taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic for months. “It’s unconscionable, the hysteria with regard to it,” he said in August, adding that there was “blood on the hands” of doctors and journalists who kept COVID-19 patients from taking the drug. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-advocates-are-pissed-trumps-not-taking-it-for-covidrhampton7_{October 6, 2020
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MMT, in recent decades, the US progressivists have become ever more radical, polarising US politics through breakdown of consensus on core values and understanding/principles. Many institutions including major media, academia and education are part of this. The rise of Cultural Marxist Critical X-Theories across a wide range is implicated. Currently we can see a rise on the insurgency escalator, matching McFaul playbook conditions; indicating low kinetic phase 4th gen civil war. That this has long been on the cards can be seen from the remark clipped earlier today. In that context media Quislings are of course trumpeting the red guard narrative. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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UPDATE: WH Press Secretary releases a letter from physician with President's permission: https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1313522747432148993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Progress is good, Oxygen is 96%, he reports no symptoms (strictly, such are reported by patients), and "continues to do extremely well." Good for stability. His Secretary of course is one of the cluster. KFkairosfocus_{October 6, 2020
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