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Today (Fri., Jan 24th 2020) is the annual March for Life,

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. . . which, we will monitor and update across the day, including DV, inputs from our person on the ground as usual.

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This year, of course, will be the first MfL attended and addressed in person by a President of the United States, here, Mr Donald Trump. Other speakers will be present and hopefully we will not see the sort of agit prop media stunt and smear game that happened last year, leading to a lawsuit that was just settled by CNN after attempts to dismiss it failed.

Today’s schedule:

Friday, January 24, 2020

  • March for Life Expo: 8:00 a.m. – 10:30 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.
  • Pre-Rally Concert: 11:00 a.m. – 12:00 p.m.
  • Rally Program and March: 12:00 p.m. – 4:00 p.m.
  • Rose Dinner Cocktail Hour: 6:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m.
  • Rose Dinner: 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.

We will monitor and update, adding across the day.

Backgrounder, a media discussion, 2018:

Remember, what is at stake is the deliberate mass slaughter of our living posterity in the womb, with a global toll of 800+ millions across 40+ years, growing at about a million more per week. (That’s a conservative calculation, on a modelled plateau since the 1990’s, the statistical report, 1.4 billion, has some credibility.) That makes this the worst mass killing in history, utterly dwarfing any other and warping government, law, law enforcement, media, professions and culture at large.

Arguably, this is the linchpin established evil of our time; given that mass blood guilt is perhaps the most corrupting, most subtly corrosive influence of all — how will our civilisation ever find absolution for this?

How will we defend our civilisation and our souls, finding a road to reformation, cleansing and transformation?

Where, as pace-setting country, the USA has responsibility far beyond its own 60+ million toll.

U/D1, 7:34 EC: Mr Trump’s pre-march message:

U/D2, 1245hrs: First video MfL 2020:

Gathering for MfL 2020

Some pictures:

MfL2020–determination to defend life
MfL 2020 — Panda says, save the baby humans

And, Mother Teresa has some words for us on domino effects:

MfL 2020: Domino effects . . .

U/D 3, 1305: A first vid message:

A first video message, a call to unity in repentance

U/D 4, 1354: Mr Trump’s speech (from Breitbart):

US President Trump speaks at the 2020 MfL — a first for a sitting President

U/D 5, 1500 hrs; Native American/ Amerindian voices:

MfL 2020, Native American/ Amerindian voices speak up for life (which quietly but firmly answers the agit prop stunt that used that ethnicity last year)

U/D 6, 1549 hrs: Statistics for the American Abortion Holocaust:

Abortion statistics, National Right to Life, from Guttmacher (PP) and CDC

U/D 7, 1630 hrs: Some results from estimated global abortion rates, where it is hard to get hard, standardised figures:

Global abortion rates estimates and suggestive trends

If the Guttmacher estimate of 2016, of 56 million abortions is reasonable, that may be up to a 2/3 under estimate. (Note discussions here and here.)

U/D81945 hrs: For the inevitable crowd game, here is an early crowd with the Washington monument in view:

Then, later in the day (HT: GP):

Work in progress . . .

Comments
EMH, yes, it is true that many women regret having an abortion, and many that don’t. But I don’t know of any women who make the decision lightly. What I find strange however is that most pro-choice people are happy about the declining abortion rates, whereas most pro-lifers don’t seem to be. I honestly don’t understand the dichotomy.Ed George
January 26, 2020
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Well, abortion means killing a “clump of cells ” / “sub-human” / “parasitic tissue”. How can killing “clumps of cells” be “traumatic”?
It’s a medical procedure. All medical procedures involve some level of trauma.
Apart from the fact that it does not make sense in the scheme of Evolution, where the purpose is to “spread the genes of those lucky enough to reach reproductive age”.
Evolution does not have a purpose. It is just a process. Differential reproduction (“survival of the fittest”) is one of the outcomes of the process.Ed George
January 26, 2020
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@EG > And nobody is suggesting that an abortion isn’t traumatic for a woman. This, in fact, is the latest push by Planned Parenthood and its ilk, to 'destigmatize' abortion and have women claim their abortion experience was great. Sadly, no one can take back an abortion. Even if the woman feels some relief in the short term, at some point it will hit home what she has done to herself and her child, and she will realize she can never undo the murder of her child, and it will haunt her for the rest of her life. The same goes for fathers, often even more so, because the law has taken the matter entirely out of their hands, so they must stand by powerlessly as their child is ripped limb from limb. I have met one father who lives with the abortion of his child every single day. Abortion rips apart the child and rips apart our society at its most fundamental level.EricMH
January 26, 2020
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@KF didn't George Bush appoint a bunch of ostensibly conservative judges to the supreme court with exactly the same sort of intent as Trump's appointees? And haven't they all turned a blind eye towards the abortion holocaust? And hasn't at least one of the newest appointees, Gursch I believe, claim that he plans to hold to precedent, i.e. not budge on Roe v. Wade? Hence, Trump's appointees are yet another red herring proffered by the 'art of the deal' author to stir up his base and get votes? I have seen zero substantial action from Trump on pro-life issues. Just tossing a well placed bone now and then to make his base believe he's doing something. I cannot believe conservatives and Christians are taken in so easily by Trump, the man who was a game host for a reality show before his presidency and wrote a book (with a ghost writer!) on how to fool people until he gets the deal he wants, and whose entire business history is swindling people for his own greedy ends, and whose personal life is the antithesis of conservative and Christian values (quite possibly a child rapist with his pal Epstein, I've seen at least one credible victim account). As GK Chesterton says, there is nothing so prone to failure as the worship of success, and sadly the religious right has fallen for this very damaging vice. Or, as Jesus says, "what does it benefit to gain the entire world if you lose your very soul?" the religious right has surrendered its moral integrity for a short term 'win' with Trump.EricMH
January 26, 2020
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And nobody is suggesting that an abortion isn’t traumatic for a woman.
Well, abortion means killing a "clump of cells " / "sub-human" / "parasitic tissue". How can killing "clumps of cells" be "traumatic"? Apart from the fact that it does not make sense in the scheme of Evolution, where the purpose is to "spread the genes of those lucky enough to reach reproductive age".Truthfreedom
January 26, 2020
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The cancer DEATH rates are declining. Not the existence of cancer. Rape has been on the increase. Pedestrian death rates are up. Pollution is up. Porch pirates are rampant. Suffering is still the norm. And we deserve it for allowing abortions.ET
January 26, 2020
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Why are you “comforted”? If it is not a moral issue, where is the problem?
For the same reason I am comforted by the fact that the rates of cancer rates are declining, that the violent crime trends are decreasing and that the rates of deaths due to car accidents are down. Any decline in suffering is a good thing for society and, therefore, for me and my family. And nobody is suggesting that an abortion isn’t traumatic for a woman.Ed George
January 26, 2020
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F/N: It seems that one of four tour buses for Covington Catholic was involved in a serious accident on the way home, in Kentucky. For unexplained reasons, an oncoming vehicle came across the meridian and hit it in the front. There were injuries inside, but the driver of the oncoming car it seems, was killed and was pronounced dead at the scene. A Priest aboard the bus reportedly administered last rites. Condolences go out to one and all. KFkairosfocus
January 25, 2020
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@4 Ed George
I am comforted by the fact that abortion rates continue to decline as education and access to effective birth control increase.
Why are you "comforted"? If it is not a moral issue, where is the problem?Truthfreedom
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EMH, for all we could say about the man, a tell-tale is that a key reason for the opposition is "the courts," i.e. that he has appointed conservative judges. A root problem is that courts have been turned into de facto legislatures unaccountable to the public. That opens the door to all sorts of usurpations and not just on any one topic. We need instead to restore a sounder understanding of law tied to the duties of truth, prudence, fairness, justice understood as built in law. In that law of our nature anchored context we will be better able to address abuses under colour of law. Where, the holocaust of our living posterity in the womb heads the list, opening the doors for many others to follow. So, the MfL is important but also a major case needs to be made in our civilisation to correct a dangerous path we have gone down. KFkairosfocus
January 25, 2020
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EricMH Great thoughts on this.
It is existential murder, since it prevents a person from existing vs. extinguishing an existing life, which church fathers such as John Chrysostom considered even worse than murder.
It's a complex idea but it makes sense. There's a deliberate animosity towards life which is premeditated. The intention is to kill off the potential for life. So the child is seen as an enemy - or a danger - even before conception.
History has never seen such widespread destruction of human life until atheism took the reigns of power.
There's a certain kind of hatred for human life within atheism itself. It opposes God, and is therefore at war against humanity. Self-worship ends with self-hatred because the god of self is very demanding, fickle, deeply flawed, unjust and does not give lasting rewards or benefits. So, when the atheist is trapped into a service of his own self alone, a hatred and animosity builds up. That is extended to all of humanity since everyone else is just other little gods walking around as competitors for attention and care. In the end, a godless world turns against its own children and destroys its own family life. The selfish-god is never satisfied, and in this case ends up being fed with the blood of the most innocent children. Atheism sets the murderous instinct free - and we see the results.Silver Asiatic
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@EG contraception is not the solution to abortion. 1. Guttmacher's research shows that contraception causes abortion, especially the telling statistic that 51% of abortion patients were on birth control the month they got pregnant https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/ipsrh/2003/03/relationships-between-contraception-and-abortion-review-evidence https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2018/about-half-us-abortion-patients-report-using-contraception-month-they-became You can see this in the OP's graphs, where, despite the dip, current levels are nowhere near the era prior to contraception. If you look at the following table, the number of abortions in the US per year skyrocket from the hundreds to the hundreds of thousands once contraception is legalized in 1965. http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/ab-unitedstates.html 2. Even if contraception reduces the amount of surgical abortion, contraception is itself an abortifacient (all chemical birth control prevent implantation if egg is fertilized), so it is merely increasing the number of actual abortions, and hiding them from the public perception. To hide this fact, ACOG redefined conception to only occur once implantation occurs, very 1984ish. However, we all know a new human life comes into existence at the point of conception, so birth control is clearly an abortifacient. https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2005/05/implications-defining-when-woman-pregnant 3. Finally, even if #1 and #2 were false, reducing the number of people created is not an answer to abortion. It is existential murder, since it prevents a person from existing vs. extinguishing an existing life, which church fathers such as John Chrysostom considered even worse than murder. If we want to follow this chain of logic to the end, then the answer to abortion is mass sterilization of the human population. No more abortion, but also no more humans. Not a solution. Bottom line, contraception is in no way a solution to abortion. As for Trump, it seems great he is going against the status quo and speaking publicly at the MfL. However, don't lionize the man. He's clearly doing so in response to the impeachment to boost support among his base. Trump has done nothing but public pro-life gestures, nothing to actually reduce abortion, and was very pro-choice up until he decided to run on the Republican ticket. All these gestures make people feel very tribal, but have next to zero long term benefit for truly ending abortion in the US. IMHO, in a way it is worse than if Trump did nothing, since it gives the appearance of progress without the substance. Final informative point, look at the countries in which the abortion holocaust began in the early 1900s. Taking into account abortion, the murder toll of atheistic communism must surely be in the billions. History has never seen such widespread destruction of human life until atheism took the reigns of power.EricMH
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Disregarding the true meaning of life leads to this: https://uncommondescent.com/culture/abortion-the-leading-cause-of-deaths-worldwide-in-2019/PaoloV
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Life This mysterious term appears 540 times in the Bible. Life 1. Old Testament (340) 2. Genesis (33) 3. Exodus (7) 4. Leviticus (5) 5. Numbers (3) 6. Deuteronomy (15) 7. Joshua (3) 8. Judges (5) 9. Ruth (1) 10. 1 Samuel (16) 11. 2 Samuel (12) 12. 1 Kings (17) 13. 2 Kings (8) 14. 1 Chronicles (1) 15. 2 Chronicles (1) 16. Ezra (1) 17. Esther (2) 18. Job (22) 19. Psalm (68) 20. Proverbs (48) 21. Ecclesiastes (14) 22. Isaiah (10) 23. Jeremiah (28) 24. Lamentations (2) 25. Ezekiel (8) 26. Daniel (1) 27. Amos (2) 28. Jonah (5) 29. Habakkuk (1) 30. Malachi (1) 31. New Testament (200) 32. Matthew (14) 33. Mark (7) 34. Luke (14) 35. John (43) 36. Acts (15) 37. Romans (22) 38. 1 Corinthians (7) 39. 2 Corinthians (7) 40. Galatians (4) 41. Ephesians (3) 42. Philippians (5) 43. Colossians (2) 44. 1 Thessalonians (1) 45. 1 Timothy (6) 46. 2 Timothy (4) 47. Titus (2) 48. Hebrews (7) 49. James (3) 50. 1 Peter (2) 51. 2 Peter (1) 52. 1 John (12) 53. Jude (1) 54. Revelation (18) John 1:4
In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Footnotes: * John 1:4 Or was not any thing made. That which has been made was life in him NIV Study Bible Notes:
1:4 life. One of the great concepts of this Gospel. The Greek word for “life” is found 36 times in John, while no other NT book uses it more than 17 times. Life is Christ’s gift (10:28), and he, in fact, is “the life” (14:6). light of all mankind. This Gospel also links light with Christ, from whom comes all spiritual illumination. He is the “light of the world,” who holds out wonderful hope for humanity (cf. 8:12 and note) and for the creation (see 3:16 and note). For an OT link between life and light, see Ps 27:1; 36:9 and notes.
MacArthur Study Bible (NKJV):
1:4, 5 life…light…darkness. John introduces the reader to contrastive themes that occur throughout the gospel. “Life” and “light” are qualities of the Word that are shared not only among the Godhead (5:26) but also by those who respond to the gospel message regarding Jesus Christ (8:12; 9:5; 10:28; 11:25; 14:6). John uses the word “life” about 36 times in his gospel, far more than any other NT book. It refers not only in a broad sense to physical and temporal life that the Son imparted to the created world through His involvement as the agent of creation (v. 3), but especially to spiritual and eternal life imparted as a gift through belief in Him (3:15; 17:3; Eph. 2:5). In Scripture “light” and “darkness” are very familiar symbols. Intellectually, “light” refers to biblical truth while “darkness” refers to error or falsehood (cf. Ps. 119:105; Prov. 6:23). Morally, “light” refers to holiness or purity (1 John 1:5) while “darkness” refers to sin or wrongdoing (3:19; 12:35, 46; Rom. 13:11–14; 1 Thess. 5:4–7; 1 John 1:6; 2:8–11). “Darkness” has special significance in relationship to Satan (and his demonic cohorts) who rules the present spiritually dark world (1 John 5:19) as the “prince of the power of the air” promoting spiritual darkness and rebellion against God (Eph. 2:2). John uses the term “darkness” 14 times (8 in the gospel and 6 in 1 John) out of its 17 occurrences in the NT, making it almost an exclusive Johannine word. In John, “light” and “life” have their special significance in relationship to the Lord Jesus Christ, the Word (v. 9; 9:5; 1 John 1:5–7; 5:12, 20).
PaoloV
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What is life? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/life https://youtu.be/_z-SUo2wP4I https://youtu.be/3XFfUt7HQWM https://youtu.be/hS6PDOcJwY8 https://youtu.be/OsYUWtLQBS0 Much talk, but no definitive answer yet?pw
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TLH & SA, Those are signatures of an anti-establishment, peasant uprising of "the deplorables." Where, while he indeed has many faults and a celebrity cult playboy-cum-NY Contractor track record, Mr Trump is a figure for the daily 30 - 60 minute hate fest [these days, 12 hours daily!] because he is an outsider and goes against the grain of where the elites want to go. We need to pray for genuine repentance, renewal, revival and reformation to spread across our civilisation. Recognising and turning from the barbarity of holocaust is an excellent place to begin. Now, some scripture. First, on life in the womb, from the core Christmas story:
Luke 1:26 Now in the sixth month [of Elizabeth’s pregnancy [--> with John the Baptist]] the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, 27 to a virgin [j]betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, a descendant of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary . . . . 39 Now at this time Mary arose and hurried to the hill country [--> so, less than two weeks, tops], to a city of Judah (Judea), 40 and she entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth. 41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, her baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and empowered by Him. 42 And she exclaimed loudly, “Blessed [worthy to be praised] are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me? 44 For behold, when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed [spiritually fortunate and favored by God] is she who believed and confidently trusted that there would be a fulfillment of the things that were spoken to her [by the angel sent] from the Lord.” [AMP]
That should be decisive for those who respect the Gospel and the scriptures that convey it. (Sadly, this is a day and age where such is a significant challenge, even in the churches. That is how pervasive our guilt and enabling are. And, if we are sufficiently polarised, mere facts have little impact, even scriptural facts brought to our attention as those supposedly guided and corrected by scripture. Let us beware, the fallacy of the closed mind!) Like unto this, and echoing Mary's Magnificat, let us now read one of the most shocking texts in all of scripture, a text that will help us read the signs of our times:
1 Cor 1:17 For Christ did not send me [as an apostle] to baptize, but [commissioned and empowered me] to preach the good news [of salvation]—not with clever and eloquent speech [as an orator], so that the cross of Christ would not be [b]made ineffective [deprived of its saving power]. 18 For the message of the cross is foolishness [absurd and illogical] to those who are perishing and spiritually dead [because they reject it], but to us who are being saved [by God’s grace] it is [the manifestation of] the power of God. 19 For it is written and forever remains written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise [the philosophy of the philosophers], And the cleverness of the clever [who do not know Me] I will nullify.” 20 Where is the wise man (philosopher)? Where is the scribe (scholar)? Where is the debater (logician, orator) of this age? Has God not exposed the foolishness of this world’s wisdom? 21 For since the world through all its [earthly] wisdom failed to recognize God, God in His wisdom was well-pleased through the [c]foolishness of the message preached [regarding salvation] to save those who believe [in Christ and welcome Him as Savior]. 22 For Jews demand signs (attesting miracles), and Greeks pursue [worldly] wisdom and philosophy, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, [a message which is] to Jews a stumbling block [that provokes their opposition], and to Gentiles foolishness [just utter nonsense], 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks (Gentiles), Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 [This is] because the foolishness of God [is not foolishness at all and] is wiser than men [far beyond human comprehension], and the weakness of God is stronger than men [far beyond the limits of human effort]. 26 Just look at your own calling, believers; not many [of you were considered] wise according to human standards, not many powerful or influential, not many of high and noble birth. 27 But God has selected [for His purpose] the foolish things of the world to shame the wise [revealing their ignorance], and God has selected [for His purpose] the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong [revealing their frailty]. 28 God has selected [for His purpose] the insignificant (base) things of the world, and the things that are despised and treated with contempt, [even] the things that are nothing, so that He might reduce to nothing the things that are, 29 so that no one may [be able to] boast in the presence of God. 30 But it is from Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God [revealing His plan of salvation], and righteousness [making us acceptable to God], and sanctification [making us holy and setting us apart for God], and redemption [providing our ransom from the penalty for sin], 31 so then, as it is written [in Scripture], “He who boasts and glories, let him boast and glory in the Lord.” [AMP]
My Thompson's Chain Reference here speaks of God's tool-chest. (Yes, there is a Tommy-Bible to answer to the Tommy Gun! One of the very best Study Bibles.) So, it is a signature strategy for God to move from the margins, from the marginalised, from the unpopular and derided. That way, his foolishness and weakness will overturn our culture's strongholds and the demonised power systems that prevail. We already saw that with slavery, it's no surprise that it is happening again. But by definition a deplorables uprising will be a dangerous passage and involves a low grade cultural power systems conflict with serious dangers of flash-over into full-bore conflagration, unlimited, out of control, utterly chaotic civil war. We are already at bleeding Kansas stage. BTW, notice, the bullet-proof screen behind which the US President spoke, similar to what now is in place at the inauguration ceremony. That speaks volumes. BTW, did the elites learn from the path that ran from Kansas to Harper's Ferry to Bull Run? Or, is this warning from Jesus yet again all too apt:
Matt 16: 1 Now the Pharisees and Sadducees came up, and testing Jesus [to get something to use against Him], they asked Him to show them a sign from heaven [which would support His divine authority]. 2 But He replied to them,
“[a]When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ 3 And in the morning, ‘It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and has a threatening look.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but cannot interpret the signs of the times? 4 An evil and [morally] unfaithful generation craves a [miraculous] sign; but no sign will be given to it, except the sign of [the prophet] Jonah.” [--> 3 days in the belly of a sea-beast vs 3 days in the belly of the earth, with 500 witnesses to the resurrection, cf. here on in context.]
Then He left them and went away. [AMP]
Then, let us note from him again in the justly most famous sermon in all history:
Matt 6:19 “Do not store up for yourselves [material] treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in and steal; 21 for where your treasure is, there your heart [your wishes, your desires; that on which your life centers] will be also. 22 “The eye is the lamp of the body; so if your eye is clear [spiritually perceptive], your whole body will be full of light [benefiting from God’s precepts]. 23 But if your eye is bad [spiritually blind], your whole body will be full of darkness [devoid of God’s precepts]. So if the [very] light inside you [your inner self, your heart, your conscience] is darkness, how great and terrible is that darkness! [--> Leading "lights" purveying darkness as if it were light thereby reveal themselves to be servants, generally unwitting, of the father of lies. Jesus here echoes Plato's Parable of the cave from the perspective, who built the theatre-prison of darkness and shadows in place of sound light, who is staging the shadow show mistaken for reality, why.] 24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon [money, possessions, fame, status, or whatever is valued more than the Lord]. [AMP]
Lessons of scripture and of history. KFkairosfocus
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TLH - true that is very strange. It was also odd to see President Trump at the rally with such an enormous crowd and none of the leading lights or celebrities in sight. Thousands upon thousands of ordinary people, led by unknown and unheralded pro-life leaders -- with the president of the USA speaking to them.Silver Asiatic
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What a strange world!! The leading lights of academia, the arts, science, technology, the law and the media are endorsing scores of millions of premeditated murders of the defenseless and innocent for personal convenience, thus revealing themselves to be depraved barbarians, While it is Donald Trump, by reputation a sleazy womanizing carnival barker, who is defending: 1) Basic and Accepted Science , that life begins at fertilization , 2) Basic Morality, that all men are children of God, equally Beloved by Him. 3.) Basic Western Civilization, that the first duty of government is to secure the rights of the weak against powerful evildoers.TAMMIE LEE HAYNES
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Then, for the usual crowd size game, here are early and late photos with the Washington Monument in the background.kairosfocus
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Added, some global abortion estimates, with a note on implications of the Guttmacher 2016 figure, 56 millions.kairosfocus
January 24, 2020
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Abortion statistics added.kairosfocus
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EG, 60+ million abortions 1973 on, c 2015 600+k per year in the US is not a minimum. The down trend from 1.59 million in 1990 (on CDC numbers) manifestly reflects a gradual awakening to what we are doing collectively and thus a gradual shift to renewed recognition of respect for life. That reached a new threshold today with the first US President to physically attend a MfL and declare support for the right to life: "We are here for a very simple reason, to defend the right of every child — born and unborn — to fulfill their God-given potential . . . " KF PS: BTW, the correct, though unpalatable term for the willful mass slaughter of innocents is holocaust.kairosfocus
January 24, 2020
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EG, the acceptable rate of holocaust [abortion] is zero.
And the acceptable rate of murder, violence, theft and tax evasion is zero, and since these are all unachievable goals, I opt for strategies that have proven to keep these to a minimum. Insisting on accepting nothing but the unachievable is just a naive and unrealistic approach.Ed George
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C. 12:58, "every child is a precious and sacred gift from God . . . "kairosfocus
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9:40 on, US Pres Trump: We are here for a very simple reason, to defend the right of every child -- born and unborn -- to fulfill their God-given potential . . . "kairosfocus
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1500 hrs, Native American voices speak up for life. PS: Is that a conch shell trumpet?kairosfocus
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He gave a good speech.Silver Asiatic
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PS: Start at the 5:30 point on the video. Gotta go for a moment on practical matters.kairosfocus
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U/D: HT Breitbart news, Mr Trump's speech at the 2020 MfL. A first for a sitting US President. KFkairosfocus
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Acartia Eddie is comforted by mass shootings cuz they will NEVER reach the level of carnage of abortions.ET
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