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After a reported suicide attempt July 23, disgraced millionnaire Jeffery Epstein is reported to have committed suicide in his cell in Manhattan, New York. Daily Mail’s bullet-point summary:

Drudge “in red” headers list:

I add, Sun Aug 11, a video:

This comes just one day after May 3, 2016 testimony of Veronica Roberts Giuffre was unsealed. According to DM ” Giuffre alleged that she was trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell to have sex with and provide erotic massages for politicians and affluent businessmen.” (NB: For the record, she specifically denies being sexually involved with either former US President Clinton or present President Trump.)

Roberts’ testimony on Miami Herald (warning, has graphic messages):

A second victim Araoz (again, graphic):

This disturbing development is all the more questionable as Mr Epstein would have been a high profile prisoner at risk of both being murdered and committing suicide. He should have been under close guard and after the earlier incident he should have been under suicide watch.

This development is bound to feed all sorts of speculations about corrupt, ruthless global power elites. In that context, it is advisable to bear in mind straight vs spin principles:

Let us soberly reflect on this tragic development. END

PS: Let us at least hear what the witnesses in this Australian 60 Minutes report have to say:

For reference, Aus 60 mins on the stomach-churning testimony of a 15 yo survivor, victim and witness on a powerful UK network:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9tNgu73Wc

Likewise, watch and come to your own conclusions on the Franklin case, noting that the balance of credibility has now definitively tipped:

Ask yourself, is this nightmare that you cannot wake up from where we want to go? And yes, those are the words of that 15 year old survivor.

PPS: The case and article an objector does not want to face:

Dutroux video report, FYI:

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F/N: Wecht disputes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=123&v=SIL8_KVg8HY and three of his lawyers indicate same, suggesting a forthcoming statement. KFkairosfocus
August 20, 2019
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FYI: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/07/opinion/letters/kevin-mccarthy-trump-anonymous.html >>A Top Republican Fires Back at ‘Anonymous’ Kevin McCarthy, the House majority leader, says the author of an Op-Ed about resistance within the administration is a “subversive” who should be “exposed and fired.” Sept. 7, 2018 To the Editor: If you didn’t believe in the Deep State before, it just took out an advertisement in The New York Times. This week The Times took the extraordinary step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay written by a senior official in the Trump administration. This official is part of a quiet resistance within the Trump administration that is working diligently from within to frustrate President Trump’s agenda and keep his decisions contained to the West Wing. Those are not my words, by the way. Those are the words of the official himself or herself, taken almost verbatim from the essay. By the writer’s own description, he (I’m using “he” for simplicity’s sake, although I don’t know the writer’s gender) is thwarting the wishes of the legitimately elected president from within the executive branch . . . >> FFT KFkairosfocus
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BB, the reality is, organised criminality and hidden agendas are real. The question is evidence for the particular case. Epstein's convenient suicide rooted in mismanagement of his case (suspicious, given clear importance) blocked off ways to expose and unravel. As for the deep state, the first time I heard the term I instantly realised it speaks to what I called the entrenched party of business as usual and what used to be called the establishment. Beyond, former senior general and then retiring president Eisenhower spoke of the Military-Industrial complex. Much earlier George Washington warned against entangling treaties. Blend in finance, media and top academy while taking military to include spies and secret police, toss in drugs and human trafficking networks and big boys clubs and you have a pretty workable picture of a cabal of interests that can turn self-government into mockery. Some months ago the US branch -- it is now obviously international -- literally took out a full page ad was it NYT? (Try Politico here for starters.) Of course, business as usual has rooms for factions and in-fighting etc. BAU is the shifting coalition of what the big players in the governance networks are willing to live with. The task of strategic change interventions is to shift the balance of power by bringing in stakeholders usually locked out so we can seriously look at BAU vs credible alternatives i/l/o problematiques, trends and seriously credible shocks and do a gap analysis between expected and credible alternatives, motivating change. What Epstein does is we see the criminal and demonic entanglements more clearly. Kennedy's assassination is questionable. His brains fly out and head recoils in ways best explained on a hit from front right, on the Zapruder film and the second less known one. The so called magic bullet was always a question. So, my best guess -- and guess it is -- is he was clearly gunning for Fidel and Fidel -- the Russians literally sent their station chiefs to CIA opposite numbers to explain no we had nothing to do with it -- got him first. The radical Islamist global conquest agenda per 100 year plan is documented from captured documents and once openly accessible maps. I first saw the latter on 9-11, a day no one was doing any other work. I also saw plans on details of how to make nukes. All long gone. Further to this the Quran Surah 9 ayas 5 and 29 are there for anyone to see as are the hadiths on Mahdi from the direction of Khorasan with the invincible army and the Gharqad tree hadith on latterday slaughter of Jews. Note that 9-11 was 318 years less one day from Jan Sobieski's breaking the 1683 siege of Vienna under the Ottoman Caliphate; thus marking a claim to build on the past high water mark of Islamist expansionism to the W. A constellation literally commemorates the lifting of that siege. Take your ignorance in connexion with what is NOT in the news or from the favoured pundits to calibrate just how much agit prop amplification we have under the colours of news and commentary. The power moves exerted against design thinkers are well demonstrated and documented. Pizzagate and McCarthy I have shown above, at minimum point to real and sobering issues though particular claims may have errors and particular voices may not be of the best quality. Epstein's oh so convenient demise by contrast with how he should have been treated as a key intel asset, speaks volumes for itself. BTW, I find it surpassing strange that they did not capture and squeeze Bin Laden similarly. So, your serial dismissiveness lacks substance and shows lack of sufficient checking out of fairly easily established facts. KFkairosfocus
August 20, 2019
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The squashing of ID? Really? To squash ID someone needs to come up with a scientifically viable alternative.ET
August 20, 2019
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KF, nobody is denying that such networks exist. Human trafficking has always been around. The internet has facilitated their ability to “recruit”, but it has also given police a tool to identify them. Conspiracy theorists see conspiracies everywhere. Whether it be the Deep State, the killing of Kennedy, Islamic world domination, the squashing of ID, Pizza gate, or the death of Epstein, some people always tend to look far beyond what the facts indicate. But all we know for sure about Epstein’s death is that he hung himself. Maybe there is far more behind this but it is up to the police (and media to a certain extant) to investigate, not a bunch of internet “investigators” who see conspiracies around every corner.Brother Brian
August 20, 2019
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F/N: Will signed two days before death: https://nypost.com/2019/08/19/jeffrey-epstein-signed-will-two-days-before-suicide/ (also note onward links). Yet another bit in the convergence. Remember Rommel, KFkairosfocus
August 20, 2019
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BB, more vids have been added; on the premise that the balance of credibility has shifted decisively. Not, in favour of wild slander and uncorroborated accusers used for propaganda purposes but solid cases that have to give us pause. Your bogeyman dismissals ring hollow; though on my own experience as having to do spiritual counselling I don't doubt that some form of sexual abuse, victimisation by incest or rape etc is more common than we want to think, the point is that destructive networks exist, have penetrated key circles of power and influence, are a manifest threat therefore to individuals (one Dutroux is one too many), and to our civilisation. On the Rommel comparison I am highlighting that even when it IS indisputably suicide, under certain circumstances, for cause concerns do not evaporate. In this cases too many things were as they didn't ought to be as they used to say. Starting with how did he have access to sheets or clothes suitable to make a rope, why for such a high profile case cams seem to have "malfunctioned," a trusty cell mate was removed, and the guards were not proper. All of that and more will be multiplied by the 24 hour window from release of freshly unsealed testimony pointing to elite circles being implicated. Something is very seriously wrong. KFkairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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This does make me wonder about what type of cell Epstein was in- how could he have hung himself? If the cell doors had bars then he could have strangled himself. A special block, apparently with upper and lower bunks, top at maybe 5 - 6 ft, apparently steel frame anchored to wall. I am not sure if concrete, so question of a ladder. Only a narrow "arrow slit" window no bars. No bars on the doors either, no knobs it seems. No protrusions that could be used. Shower and all in one water unit [that would be enough for me by itself, ugh!] a concrete stool and shelf, a built in B/W TV. He is said to have used a sheet anchored to the bunk; itself dubious as he should have had "paper" sheets and clothes not strong enough to twist into an improvised rope. I hear of screams, immediately associated with shouts to breathe, but no clear timeline. Likewise the minimal 1/2 hr checks were not done.ET
August 17, 2019
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Brother Brian:
I prefer to wait for the evidence before drawing any conclusions.
All evidence to the contrary, of course. And Brian has never demonstrated anything that demonstrates it is capable of assessing any evidence.ET
August 17, 2019
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BB, yes, just as the official cause of Field Marshal Rommel’s death was died of wounds after a strafing attack.
If you choose to see boogeymen around every corner that is your choice. I prefer to wait for the evidence before drawing any conclusions.Brother Brian
August 17, 2019
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PS: A disturbing video worth pondering: NAH. Good intro then downhill. Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AztjLFw39JM and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9tNgu73Wckairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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F/N: Wikipedia's summary as a baseline:
Sex trafficking is human trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation, including sexual slavery.[1] A victim is forced, in one of a variety of ways, into a situation of dependency on their trafficker(s) and then used by said trafficker(s) to give sexual services to customers.[2] There are three types of activities defined as sex trafficking crimes: acquisition, transportation and exploitation;[1] this includes child sex tourism (CST), domestic minor sex trafficking (DMST) or other kinds of commercial sexual exploitation of children, and prostitution.[2] Sex trafficking is one of the biggest criminal businesses in the world. In 2012 the International Labour Organization, reported 20.9 million people were subjected to forced labour, and 22% (4.5 million) who are victims of forced sexual exploitation.[3] The same organization reported in 2016 that of the estimated 25 million persons in forced labor, 5 million were victims of sexual exploitation.[4][5] However, due to the covertness of sex trafficking, obtaining accurate, reliable statistics is difficult for researchers.[6] The global commercial profits for sexual slavery are estimated to be $99B according to this same source.[7] In 2005, the figure was given as $9B for the total human trafficking industry.[8][9] Most victims find themselves in coercive or abusive situations from which escape is both difficult and dangerous. Locations where this practice occurs span the globe and reflect an intricate web between nations, making it very difficult to construct viable solutions to this human rights problem.
As in a global blackmarket trading network of organised crime, with obviously a considerable incidence of children of various ages caught up in the web. Cases we have seen point to significant involvement of power elites and dirty big money. I don't doubt that intelligence agencies are still using these things for honey traps. Epstein and those tied to him, etc are only the tip that we see. KFkairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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ET, we have excellent reason to infer that secret corruptions are accelerating, just from the rise of the Internet and linked cheap global travel multiplied by signs of human trafficking networks. Those would point to growth markets, albeit "black" ones; growth markets law enforcement would struggle to suppress similar to the losing war against the (connected!) illicit drugs trade. Further to this we see the linked explosion of Internet accessible pornography, much of which can be seen as enticement and grooming that undermines natural barriers, weakening resistance; I still reel when I remember running across the reports in technical works on the Internet, that originally porn dominated high bandwidth 'net traffic indeed in the US it may have paid for the broadband rollout. Where, pornography promoters developed key video technologies . . . I wonder what back doors might be there in the code even now (and no that does not by any means lock out NSA and CIA etc as also implicated). Multiply by the demonstrable collusion in power centres to undermine moral government, the natural law principles of justice, the linked global abortion holocaust [which feeds in the corrupting influence of blood guilt] and the ongoing enthusiastically media promoted agit prop and lawfare seeking to corrupt sexual identity, marriage and family. These and many other signs just hit the peg with the Epstein case. Evil is on the march in our civilisation and we had better wake up to the realities of a Nero (= 666) as sinner in chief, Rom 1 world of demonically reprobate minds with equally demonically benumbed consciences. AKA a growing number of well- connected sociopaths in positions to exert influence and power; with perverted addictions to demonic evil -- termites, riddling our civilisation's networks of influence and power. That suspicious granular dust keeps on dropping out. KF PS: The global anti-slavery movement, for cause, is still active: https://www.antislavery.org/about-us/history/ This of course is connected to the Lolita trade we just got a window on.kairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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F/N: Given the Franklin Case, the Dutroux case, the Australian 60 minutes case, the penetration of the Roman Catholic Church (and others), given the David Asimov child porn case, given the Thailand trade, given that at least one case of "snuff" porn making was exposed in the Philippines and many other signs, there is more than enough evidence that we have a termites riddling the woodwork problem. That funny yellowish granular dust keeps on popping up. I have already linked the FBI produced briefing on the symbols and signs used by pedophile networks, which immediately implies a subculture using coded references and preying on boys and girls. That this penetrates into political, professional, cultural and financial elites and not just and not just churches and the scouts etch has been established by cases. So, at minimum the Pizzagate speculation points to a real problem whether or not specific claims were misdirected or exaggerated. That is exactly what was eventually proved regarding McCarthy after the USSR's files came out. There were indeed nests of traitors, it was not merely fevered unfounded imagination, and there is some reason to see that he may actually have had some well founded information, which he seems to have handled poorly. My concern is not the media dismissiveness -- which is itself a suspicious sign given, say, Savile and Moira Greyland's The Last Closet -- but the substantial termites problem. KFkairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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BB, yes, just as the official cause of Field Marshal Rommel's death was died of wounds after a strafing attack. Just as the immediate cause of death was in fact suicide by taking poison. And just as the context was something he held dear was held hostage (his family) so do like the Prussians to save your family (he was a Swabian), by orders of the vengeful Fuhrer. In short, the ruling is not only dubious -- the multiple bones broken raise questions -- but all sorts of conveniently unanswered questions jump out: how did he have access to a blanket with sufficient strength (as opposed to the "paper" one), why were so many things out of line with proper procedure, why wasn't he in a safe house being properly interrogated, why was he reportedly on track to spill the beans, and more. There remains something utterly rotten with the state of the USA and the global elites. And, the benefit of doubts has now shifted decisively. We have seen the tip of the iceberg and the question is whether we can heel over and pull away enough in time to avoid a fatal collision. This time there are enough life boats but for some reason many pax are convinced nothing could possibly be wrong. KF PS: Three days of PC horrors occasioned by an autoupdate of Win gone wrong. I have got this far on setting up a new machine. And I officially report, I find Win 10 unnecessarily difficult for a main machine.kairosfocus
August 17, 2019
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The ruling is suicide by hanging. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/08/16/official-autopsy-shows-jeffrey-epstein-hanged-himself-in-jail-cell/amp/Brother Brian
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Brother Brian:
I wasn’t suggesting that it was new, just that it wasn’t getting any worse than it ever was.
Except for the fact that you don't have any ideaET
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BB, how did you manage to twist out of what I wrote the idea that such perversity is new?
I wasn’t suggesting that it was new, just that it wasn’t getting any worse than it ever was. In fact, it is probably getting better in that these things are no longer swept under the rug as they were up until not too long ago.
As for the Pizzagate case at the minimum it is related as McCarthy was to something very real and dangerous
Pizzagate wasn’t related to anything real. A pedophile ring was not being run out of Cosmic Pizza. It was an unsupported conspiracy theory propagated and supported through the internet, including this web site, that ruined a business and several innocent reputations. I thought that the right to innocent reputation was one of those objective rights.Brother Brian
August 16, 2019
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Looks like the autopsy leaves open the possibility of strangling https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/14/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-finds-broken-bones-neck-re/kairosfocus
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PS: You seem to have missed the facts of the several cases, which do consistently point to networks in influential circles. That shows a failure to take such facts seriously.kairosfocus
August 14, 2019
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BB, how did you manage to twist out of what I wrote the idea that such perversity is new? Nero as sinner in chief who is on record as taking up a nine year old catamite is 2000 years ago. Jupiter and Ganymede is older than that. The pattern of what happens when cultures turn their backs on God is ancient and too often repeated. You have set up yet another strawman , when we see clear evidence of corrupt networks from Franklin to Dutroux to the Epstein et al network and beyond. As for the Pizzagate case at the minimum it is related as McCarthy was to something very real and dangerous: as was already pointed out. And, it is time to root them out and lock them up. What is new is the direct implication of how it riddles elite circles and now exerts brazen lawless power. More reason to root them out and lock them up. KFkairosfocus
August 14, 2019
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Go back to sleep, BB, there's a good chap. The equation is all too simple isn't it (unless you're BB, it seems!)? There is a world-wide network of powerful billionaires and assorted jet-setters, so powerful that they ARE the law... indeed, INTERNATIONAL LAW, and the government of our world. The US, independently, actually seems to be a microcosm of this, with a few other countries not far behind. It has included freemasons and cardinals. No single individual, nor indeed a group of inviduals can do anything about it. the mere effort, if perceived as threatening to the Baal-worshippers and assorted malafactors, would get them killed, and to no purpose. Even the hapless guards, officials et al share the same risk, involuntary though their connivance might have been. Much can be said about the matter, although the focus will inevitably remain on the foothills. In a word, until the Parousia, they have won, big-time, as big-time as you can get. But God is not mocked. Vemgeance is mine', saith the Lord, 'I WILL repay.Axel
August 14, 2019
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Teaching blind watchmaker evolution has ruined more innocent lives than pizzagate. School shootings occurred due to the teaching of that nonsense.ET
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Fires were set at Comet Pizza because of a false pedophile ring link. Pictures of the basement where children were supposedly held were posted. A basement that Comet Pizza didn’t have. Pictures of the walk in fridge where children were claimed to be held were posted. A walk in fridge that the restaurant didn’t have. Because of unfounded claims like the ones you are making, untold suffering to the owners and employees of Comet pizza were caused. And some fool even tried to justify these claims because Comet pizza used a triangle in their logo. Because, no innocent pizza restaurant would ever use the shape of a slice of pizza as a symbol.Brother Brian
August 13, 2019
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KF@65, you run on as if pedophilia is new, or increasing. As horrific as it is, it has always existed. And, sadly, will always exist. Until you can show me that it is somehow more prevalent, all I can conclude is that we still have some that manipulate and abuse others for their benefit. Which is not to say that we shouldn’t follow up on every incident. But to jump to worldwide conspiracy from one example is just grossly irresponsible. How many innocent lives were ruined by the refuted Pizzagate? Aren’t you always harping on about the right of innocent reputation (or something like that)? You propagating unfounded conspiracies against the “power elite” (whoever the hell that is) is just an attempt to rob them of innocent reputation without due process. I refuse to engage in that fear mongering.Brother Brian
August 13, 2019
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BB, have you yet read Suetonius, Lives of the twelve Caesars on Nero, 2000 years past? [And the end was not yet then.] Your enabling behaviour given what we can see for ourselves, speaks for itself. KF PS: Funny you mention McCarthy as though the very name discredits what it is smeared on. While he may have been making things up from his personal nightmares (and maybe he had a leak or two), the post USSR revelations and other sources show that there was in fact a serious penetration and betrayal in progress. What we are dealing with is separately known examples of pedophile and similar networks -- you obviously studiously ignored the Belgian case on a silly excuse, and the Franklin case is also there for anyone to see, with the Australia 60 minutes video also very troubling indeed. Of course, the nest that penetrated Catholicism is notorious but it is by no means unique; we now have reason to take this as only one slice of a much bigger phenomenon that is in fact distracting us from what else is going on. The silencing of a key source here is the tip of the whole rotten iceberg. The rapidly advancing moral corruption of our Rom 1 -- Nero as sinner in chief -- era seems to have some driving forces, it is not coming out of nowhere and nothing for no reason.kairosfocus
August 13, 2019
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F/N: Ponder from Vanity Fair but reckon with the tainted source:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/the-mystery-of-ghislaine-maxwell-epstein-enabler On the weekends in the 1990s, [Ghislaine] Maxwell would have her Rollerblades FedExed to Epstein’s island in the Caribbean, and said she got her helicopter’s license so she could transport anyone she liked without pilots knowing who they were. Maxwell also said the island had been completely wired for video; the friend thought that she and Epstein were videotaping everyone on the island as an insurance policy, as blackmail.
(Shrug) KFkairosfocus
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KF@62 THE END IS NIGH!!! Sorry, couldn't resist. There has always been corruption and power grabs and turf protection. I don't think it is any worse now than it has ever been. Kennedy had affairs with young women under the protection of the secret service. McCarthyism was decades ago. Before that were the robber barons using armed forces to break up strikes. The only thing that changes is time, not human ambition and frailties.Brother Brian
August 13, 2019
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PaV, we can now take it to the bank that -- whatever remnant of decency is there -- the global elites are riddled with reprobates of utmost depravity, comparable to Nero, Paul's sinner in chief in Rom 1. No wonder we seem literally hell-bent on reliving that sort of age. God, have mercy on us. KFkairosfocus
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For the curious: 1.) Who is more likely to have something to fear regarding sexual predation, Bill Clinton or Donald Trump? 2.) Who ordered Jeffrey Epstein to stay away, Clinton or Trump? 3.) Does what happened to Epstein sound familiar? Yes, it sounds like what happened to Jim McDougall of Whitewater fame who, while in prison was put into solitary confinement despite his doctors strictly saying that because of his heart condition solitary confinement would likely kill him, was put into solitary confinement and died. He never testified against Bill and Hillary Clinton. Oh, well . . . . .PaV
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