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Psychopath as Übermensch or Nietzsche at Columbine

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Metaphysical naturalism asserts that nothing exists but matter, space and energy, and therefore every phenomenon is merely the product of particles in motion.  Certain consequences with respect to God and ethics follow inexorably if metaphysical naturalism is a true account of reality.  Perhaps Will Provine summed these up best:

1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent.

Evolution: Free Will and Punishment and Meaning in Life, Second Annual Darwin Day Celebration Keynote Address, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, February 12, 1998 (abstract)

Dawkins agrees:

The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.

Richard Dawkins, River out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life, 133.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that metaphysical naturalism is a true account of reality.  What if a person were able to act based on a clear-eyed and unsentimental understanding of the consequences outlined above?  If that person had the courage not to be overwhelmed by the utter meaningless of existence, he would be transformed. He would be bold, self-confident, assertive, uninhibited, and unrestrained.  He would consider empathy to be nothing but weak-kneed sentimentality.  To him others would not be ends; they would be objects to be exploited for his own gratification.  He would not mind being called cruel, because he would know that “cruelty” is an empty category, the product of mere sentiment.  Is the lion being cruel to the gazelle?  No, he is merely doing what lions naturally do to gazelles.  In short, he would be what we call a psychopath.

Nietzsche speaks of such a one and calls him the Übermensch (from the German “Über” meaning “over” or “beyond” or “super,” and “mensch” for “man” as in “mankind”).  The word has been translated into English as “superman.”  Nietzsche believed the Übermensch would evolve from man just as man had evolved from the apes:

I TEACH YOU THE SUPERMAN.  Man is something that is to be surpassed.  What have ye done to surpass man?

All beings hitherto have created something beyond themselves: and ye want to be the ebb of that great tide, and would rather go back to the beast than surpass man?

What is the ape to man? A laughing-stock, a thing of shame. And just the same shall man be to the Superman: a laughing-stock, a thing of shame.

Ye have made your way from the worm to man, and much within you is still worm. Once were ye apes, and even yet man is more of an ape than any of the apes . . .

Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman—a rope over an abyss.

A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting.

What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an OVER-GOING and a DOWN-GOING.

Thus Spake Zarathustra

The Übermensch holds the “slave morality” of Christianity in contempt, because it seeks to inhibit the unfettered expression of his will.  Zarathustra goes on:

For today have the petty people become master: they all preach submission and humility and policy and diligence and consideration and the long et cetera of petty virtues.

Whatever is of the effeminate type, whatever originateth from the servile type, and especially the populace-mishmash:—THAT wisheth now to be master of all human destiny—O disgust! Disgust! Disgust! . . .

He hath heart who knoweth fear, but VANQUISHETH it; who seeth the abyss, but with PRIDE.

He who seeth the abyss, but with eagle’s eyes,—he who with eagle’s talons GRASPETH the abyss: he hath courage.—

“Man is evil”—so said to me for consolation, all the wisest ones. Ah, if only it be still true today! For the evil is man’s best force.

“Man must become better and eviler”—so do I teach. The evilest is necessary for the Superman’s best.

It may have been well for the preacher of the petty people to suffer and be burdened by men’s sin. I, however, rejoice in great sin as my great CONSOLATION.—

With great courage the Übermensch reflects upon the abyss – the vast, indifferent and meaningless universe – and does not lose heart.  He has evolved beyond man and is therefore able to see past the empty categories of “good” and “evil” held so dear by the petty people.  He becomes “eviler” and therefore better, because “better” means the successful assertion of his will to power, which the petty people consider evil.

The “psychopath as Übermensch” insight is, of course, not new and has been explored many times.  Just last year the television series Dexter (a series about the eponymous psychopathic serial killer) delved into it.  In the program’s final season the writers introduce us to a psychiatrist named Evelyn Vogel who specializes in treating psychopaths.  In a script Nietzsche would have loved, Vogel tells Dexter that far from being evil he is an evolutionary gift to mankind:

Vogel:  I believe that psychopaths are not a mistake of nature.  They’re a gift.

Dexter:  A gift?

Vogel:  They’re Alpha wolves, who helped the human race survive long enough to become civilized.  An indispensable demographic . . .

Later:

Dexter:  You were wrong about me.  I’m a mistake.

Vogel:  You’re exactly what you need to be, Dexter.  You’re perfect.

And later still:

Vogel:  I’m not criticising.  Selfless love is hard enough for typical people. And for psychopaths, it’s impossible.

Dexter:  So why are you telling me this? So I’ll feel bad about myself?

Vogel: Quite the contrary. I want you to revel in what you are.  I told you, you’re perfect.

All very theoretical Barry, but Dexter is fiction.  There’s no practical application.  Not so.  I have personally looked into the eyes of a killer who believed he was a Nietzschean Übermensch.  As the attorney for the families of six of the students killed at Columbine, I read through every single page of Eric Harris’* journals; I listened to all of the audio tapes and watched the videotapes, including the infamous “basement tapes.”  As I have written before (see here), Harris was a thoroughgoing disciple of Darwin, and it was no coincidence that on the day of the killings he was wearing a shirt with the words “natural selection” emblazoned across the front.  Harris had also imbibed deeply from Nietzsche, and in one of his journals he wrote, “I just love Hobbes and Nietzsche.”

In the recordings he left behind, Harris says he has “evolved,’ and in his higher state of existence he has no obligation to anyone.  Because he had no obligation to the lower beings around him, he believed he had the right to kill them at a whim.

Based on my study of Harris’ writings and recordings, I can tell you that the FBI’s experts’ conclusions as reported by Dave Cullen in Slate were exactly right:

‘Psychopaths are not disoriented or out of touch with reality, nor do they experience the delusions, hallucinations, or intense subjective distress that characterize most other mental disorders,’ writes Dr. Robert Hare, in Without Conscience, the seminal book on the condition. (Hare is also one of the psychologists consulted by the FBI about Columbine and by Slate for this story.) ‘Unlike psychotic individuals, psychopaths are rational and aware of what they are doing and why. Their behavior is the result of choice, freely exercised.’ . . .

Harris’ pattern of grandiosity, glibness, contempt, lack of empathy, and superiority read like the bullet points on Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist and convinced Fuselier and the other leading psychiatrists close to the case that Harris was a psychopath.

It begins to explain Harris’ unbelievably callous behavior: his ability to shoot his classmates, then stop to taunt them while they writhed in pain, then finish them off. Because psychopaths are guided by such a different thought process than non-psychopathic humans, we tend to find their behavior inexplicable. But they’re actually much easier to predict than the rest of us once you understand them. Psychopaths follow much stricter behavior patterns than the rest of us because they are unfettered by conscience, living solely for their own aggrandizement. (The difference is so striking that Fuselier trains hostage negotiators to identify psychopaths during a standoff, and immediately reverse tactics if they think they’re facing one. It’s like flipping a switch between two alternate brain-mechanisms.)

None of his victims means anything to the psychopath. He recognizes other people only as means to obtain what he desires. Not only does he feel no guilt for destroying their lives, he doesn’t grasp what they feel. The truly hard-core psychopath doesn’t quite comprehend emotions like love or hate or fear, because he has never experienced them directly.

David Brooks summed Eric Harris up as well as anyone:

It’s clear from excerpts of Harris’s journals that he saw himself as a sort of Nietzschean Superman — someone so far above the herd of ant-like mortals he does not even have to consider their feelings. He rises above good and evil, above the contemptible slave morality of normal people. He can realize his true, heroic self, and establish his eternal glory, only through some gigantic act of will.

Which brings us back to the question we asked at the beginning.  What if a person were able to act based on a clear-eyed and unsentimental understanding of the ethical consequences of metaphysical naturalism?  We are repulsed by Harris, and we use words like “evil” to describe him.  But if metaphysical naturalism is true, are we not engaging in mere sentimentality when we say Harris was evil?  If naturalism is true, human beings are nothing but “sentient meat” (to quote Rust from True Detectives), and on what basis can we assert that one bag of sentient meat has any obligation to allow another bag of sentient meat to live?  Harris believed he was a lion and his classmates had no more rights than gazelles.  If naturalism is true was he wrong?

In his book Darwin’s Dangerous Idea Daniel Dennett refers to Darwinism as a “universal acid” that “eats through just about every traditional concept, and leaves in its wake a revolutionized world-view, with most of the old landmarks still recognizable, but transformed in fundamental ways . . .”

Indeed.  Which brings to mind the old joke:

Reporter to inventor:  “What are you working on?”

Inventor:  “I am going to invent a universal acid that will eat through any known substance”

Reporter:  “What are you going to store it in?”

In this post I have not argued that metaphysical naturalism is false.**  In fact, I have asked my readers to assume that it is true and we have explored some of the consequences of that assumption.  The fact that I personally find those consequences repugnant does not mean it is false.  As a matter of strict logic my desires concerning a proposition are irrelevant as to whether it is true or false.  Nor have I argued that Darwinism is false.**  I have argued, however, that whether they are true or false, these ideas have consequences, and it is not hard to connect the dots between Darwin and Nietzsche.  Nor it is the least bit difficult to connect the dots between Darwin/Nietzsche and Eric Harris.

Colin Patterson was the senior paleontologist at the British Natural History Museum and the author of the museum’s general text on evolution.  Patterson once asked the members of the Evolutionary Morphology seminar at the University of Chicago: “Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing . . . that is true?”  Patterson relates that “all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, ‘I do know one thing — it ought not to be taught in high school.’”  Indeed, and neither should Nietzsche.  I urge everyone reading this whose job it is to mold impressionable young minds to be very careful.  When it comes to Darwin’s ideas as filtered though Nietzsche, you are holding a bottle of universal acid.  Use extreme caution!

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*This is all about Eric Harris.  Harris was brilliant.  How many 18 year-olds do you know who even know who Nietzsche was?  Not only did Harris know who he was, he was deeply influenced by his philosophy.  Dylan Klebold was a follower.  Ochberg and Fuselier concur.

**I believe both to be false, but that is an argument for another day.

Comments
"Citation? I’ve only heard of two, the two that did the shooting. Who else was involved?" Read the second link I posted carefully. The witnesses NAMED four other teens--two other Columbine students and two recent grads--as being there as shooters or as participants. A seventh person was clearly described but was not identified, as he was not a Columbine student. ps 'Dexter' was nothing more than an elaborate psy op designed to make murder acceptable to the masses. starviego
Seasons 1, 2 and 4 were the pinnacle of Dexter. The ending of season four (Trinity) completely bowled me over. Fantastic television. Dexter did inadvertently kill at least one completely innocent person, due to mistaken identity, and killed a couple others outside "the code" due to his rage after season four. The absolute best moment of Dexter, IMHO, which best captures a crucial element of his psychopathy, was in season one when Rita's ex husband confronts Dexter at the door (Are you ____ my wife?) and feigns punching him. Dexter doesn't flinch. As they humanized Dexter over the years, some of that brilliant portrayal of his psychopathic emotional life was lost. The last three seasons were relatively weaker. Hard to stay on top (particularly if your best writers leave). Reciprocating Bill
staviego:
You guys see a psychopath. I see a teenage punk with a bad attitude.
Who murdered people. That goes above and beyond having a bad attitude.
And even if he was psychopathic, that is still not motive for murder. So what was the motive? In fact, what is the motive for all these young person rampages we have seen since Columbine?
Well, at least one of them credited Darwin for allowing them to be self-fulfilled killers. I think much of what happened was due to their environment and outside influences, rather than a diagnosis of mental illness.
Anyway all this talk totally ignores the fact that at least five other people were identified as having participated in the shooting.
Citation? I've only heard of two, the two that did the shooting. Who else was involved?
Bad example. Dexter was no sociopath.
My reference to the book on sociopaths and my reference to Dexter were not meant to be taken together. My bad.
He had deep emotional issues because of the brutal murder of his mother, which he witnessed. But Dexter had a conscious. He had emotional issues. He stuggled with his difficulty in making emotional bonds with people. And yes, he was a serial killer. But he only killed murderers.
He was a psychopath. And while he had a conscience, he was able to silence it long enough to do the damage that he did.
He went out of his way to keep innocent people from being harmed. Dexter was not sociopath. His victims got what they deserved, IMO. P.S. I loved that show.
I Netflixed the first and second seasons, but then it got very weird when John Lithgow came on in the 4th season. However, I loved the dream sequence where Dexter imagines the citizens of Miami cheering for him and giving him a parade as a way of saying thanks for getting rid of all the bad guys. Have you read any of the books? I've finished Darkly Dreaming Dexter (which is pretty much the plot for the first season) and Dexter Is Delicious.
Barb
Psychopathy, as investigated by Robert Hare and assessed by means of the PCL, was originally described in contemporary detail by Hervey Cleckley in his 1947 book “The Mask of Sanity.” Indeed, they are known as “Cleckley psychopaths.” Such psychopaths occur with approximately equal frequency across all cultures and have been identified in various ways in the literature for 200+ years. This form of psychopathy almost certainly has a significant biological basis rather than originating from misguided or defective enculturation. A large number of contemporary studies indicate that psychopaths exhibit subtle abnormalities of language processing, cortical maturational lags, hemispheric imbalances, frontal lobe dysfunction, abnormalities of the deployment of attention and states of chronic underarousal. They apparently have an attenuated experience of anxiety and fear and are abnormally physiologically unresponsive to punishment and painful stimuli, differences observable in galvanic skin response and accelerations in heart rate in experimental settings. Moreover, there is substantial evidence that lack of social controls, emotional lability, restlessness and inattentiveness, impulsiveness and irritability may be identified in a subpopulation of children as early as age three years. Robert Hare observed that children who eventually become psychopaths as adults come to the attention of teachers and counselors at a very early age and continue their antisocial careers through latency and adolescence in the face of every attempt to socialize them. Given this research, if Harris was a psychopath in the sense of the population of interest to Robert Hare (e.g. was a Cleckley psychopath), it is unlikely that his psychopathy arose because someone “opened Pandora’s box," or that his psychopathy had anything to do with "metaphysical naturalism" or any other world view. Reciprocating Bill
starviego, you are right to question the official report issued by the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office. It is a deeply flawed document. I even brought a lawsuit challenging the views expressed in the report, because they could not possibly have been correct. The lawsuit resulted in the "official" story being changed. That said, there is no evidence to support the conspiracy theories voiced in the links you provided. And believe me, I had every interest in destroying the official version (and was partially successful). Barry Arrington
"high grade evidence" Do eyewitnesses count? http://signofthetimes.yuku.com/topic/948/How-many-shooters-345 http://signofthetimes.yuku.com/topic/949/62-eyewitnesses-cant-be-wrong starviego
KF, yes the article you link is reasonably accurate. It mentions my case. Barry Arrington
David Berlinski, ‘The Devil’s Delusion’:
In the early days of the German advance into Eastern Europe, before the possibility of Soviet retribution even entered their untroubled imagination, Nazi extermination squads would sweep into villages, and after forcing villagers to dig their own graves, murder their victims with machine guns. On one such occasion somewhere in Eastern Europe, an SS officer watched languidly, his machine gun cradled, as an elderly and bearded Hasidic Jew laboriously dug what he knew to be his grave. Standing up straight, he addressed his executioner. “God is watching what you are doing,” he said. And then he was shot dead. What Hitler did not believe and what Stalin did not believe and what Mao did not believe and what the SS did not believe and what the Gestapo did not believe and what the NKVD did not believe and what the commissars, functionaries, swaggering executioners, Nazi doctors, Communist Party theoreticians, intellectuals, Brown Shirts, Black Shirts, gauleiters, and a thousand party hacks did not believe was that God was watching what they were doing.
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PS: This account seems reasonably well substantiated and coherent. However, BA is much more authoritative than any such compilation. kairosfocus
Barb: Dexter Bad example. Dexter was no sociopath. He had deep emotional issues because of the brutal murder of his mother, which he witnessed. But Dexter had a conscious. He had emotional issues. He stuggled with his difficulty in making emotional bonds with people. And yes, he was a serial killer. But he only killed murderers. He went out of his way to keep innocent people from being harmed. Dexter was not sociopath. His victims got what they deserved, IMO. P.S. I loved that show. CentralScrutinizer
SV: Just remember, BA is one of the world's genuine experts on the Columbine incident, who has had direct access to evidence in discovery that no one else in this thread has. His view that Harris was a psychopath is also a consensus view of relevant experts. His assertions that influence by Nietzsche and some form of social darwinism also shaped his behaviour should not be lightly dismissed, especially given the notorious Loeb-Leopold murder in the 1920's. Klebold seems to have been a sidekick dominated by Harris. The notion of up to seven or more shooters is something you would have to provide serious substantiation on; as of now it does not at all seem likely to be credible absent high grade evidence. KF kairosfocus
You guys see a psychopath. I see a teenage punk with a bad attitude. And even if he was psychopathic, that is still not motive for murder. So what was the motive? In fact, what is the motive for all these young person rampages we have seen since Columbine? Anyway all this talk totally ignores the fact that at least five other people were identified as having participated in the shooting. starviego
staviego:
Beware of the post-mortem diagnosis. If Harris was such a pycho, how come nobody noticed this while he was alive?
Read The Sociopath Next Door sometime. People with deep-seated personality issues are very, very good at hiding them from other people. To use Barry's fictitious example, Dexter killed other killers in the Miami area for years without being caught [the show ran for 7 seasons, IIRC]. Everyone thought he was a blood spatter analyst; maybe a bit quirky, but nothing overtly odd. He was a serial killer who worked in the police department. And nobody was the wiser. Barb
GUN: BA is alluding to the concept that the predator has superior fitness that was then current. Lack of empathy for prey is different from lack of empathy among the pride. And, the superman was seen as a different order. There is a chilling passage in Hitler that brings out that sentiment, in terms of cats having no feelings for mice, nor foxes for geese. Save, I suppose, as lunch. KF kairosfocus
Axel: I am not sure of your Irish man's vote. That would be significant on St Pat's day. Barbarossa's key failures were in the failure to renew the thrust at Leningrad promptly, then the switching of Tank forces S towards . . . Ukraine, from Moscow; M and L being major production centres, and M the key communication nexus. By the time they were retargeted at Moscow, rain set in and slowed badly, buying time to shore up defences and bring to bear Siberian Divisions. In mud time rail beats motors mired in mud. Then winter set in and the Siberian Divisions were used in the counter-offensives against an army not prepared for winter that told. A further contribution was the delays due to the sudden campaigns in the Balkans. Deeper than that, Hitler had refused to listen to warnings on the actual Russian strength. So, if he failed to knock out fast, the attrition would at length tell against him. Summer 1942, he could not go for a general offensive, wasted time trying to take Caucasus, and instead of going upstream 100 mi or so as advised took dead aim at Stalingrad. Lost 6th Army to a Russian deep battle counterattack, and came within 17 mi of losing his southern army group. By 1943, there was just one concentrated attack, which the Russians took and ground down at Kursk. Then, the long retreat to Berlin. The Russians, Poles etc paid an awful price, but less than the alternative; the Germans planned to starve out whole populations. When it came to US-German fighting, several days after the Pearl Harbour attack, Hitler declared war on the US and unleashed his submarines along the Eastern seaboard; the US did not have a choice but to fight back. (Note, in 1943, he came frighteningly close but not close enough to knocking Britain out by sinking merchant ships.) The lead Japanese Admiral, Yamamoto was under no illusions. He said 6 months of victories, in 3 years they will be at Japan's doorstep. The issue is Japan's war with China and demand for resources. The US Fleet was a flank threat and had to be knocked out. I think the hope was, they could shock the Western powers enough to get some sort of settlement with Japan sitting on Dutch oil in Indonesia. But after Pearl Harbour, the Americans were not going to settle for less than total defeat. Though, the Germans were the priority threat. Bottomline, though, is: we seem to have refused to learn the hard, hard, hard-bought lessons from the global catastrophe of 1938 - 42. Putin, I fear, is not going to stop at Crimea, and while eyes are there, things are still happening in the Persian Gulf as Iran sprints to the nuke finish line. A real mess. KF kairosfocus
BA,
I would think the answer to that question is obvious. For our clear-eyed, unsentimental Übermensch, “empathy” is an arbitrary barrier to the unfettered assertion of his will to power. You might as well ask why the lion does not feel empathy for the gazelle.
Maybe I’m missing something from not having done much study of Nietzsche (been many years since I’ve read “Zarathustra”), but it seems odd to me to suppress empathy - a primary source of our wants and desires - in order to achieve… our wants and desires. The reasoning doesn’t seem obvious to me at all. As for why a lion doesn’t feel empathy for the gazelle, well, I’m pretty sure lions don’t feel much empathy period. I think it’s beyond their ability. You might as well ask why lions haven’t invented calculus, written a symphony, or traveled to the moon. It also seems odd to me to refer to someone as a “super-man” who has lost one of the key characteristics that differentiates us from other animals. Sounds more like an “under-man”. goodusername
This is actually a poor reading of Nietzsche. I take it the author hasn't yet come across Walter Kaufmann? Eric Harris may have been an intelligent young man, but his reading of Nietzsche is still an adolescent reading– and a psychopath's reading at that. Nietzsche's Overman is not unable to love. A consistent object of Nietzsche's critique was not empathy per se, but pity. He saw pity as a form of sentimental self-indulgence, theatrical, and covertly self-involved. He saw it as degrading to both the person offering it (who by exercising it often enjoys a perverse feeling of power over the pitiable subject) as well as the person on the receiving end (who then becomes the subject of a debt or is otherwise invited to identify himself with his wretchedness, making his weakness into a matter of theatrics). I would say, above all, it was the secret enjoyment of pity that he sought to expose, an enjoyment which invites people to remain in sick and unnecessary structures of unequal power distribution that drain away the energy needed for health and autonomy. His opposition to pity is not a matter of simply disposing of it and opting for its opposite, but *overcoming it* within oneself. We have to learn where and how emotions of pity no longer serve the goal of becoming the best possible versions of ourselves. At times, this requires hardness. Nietzsche wrote in his journals, his vision of the Overman is something like "The Roman Cesar with the soul of Christ." jordan st. francis
Another crucial factor re the Japanese theatre was the discovery on a captured boat of top-secret British government papers stating, either that Britain was not interested in defending its colonies in the Far East at that time, or considered it impracticable in the circumstances. Can't remember which, but it was related on a cable programme. For some reason, they had failed to jettison the papers in time. Effectively it gave the 'green light' to the Japanese, who, until then, had not been confident at all of their own prospects. Axel
And re Barbarossa, KF, yes, Hitler insisted on delaying the onslaught, thereby giving the Russians time to create some very effective tank-trap defences, and doubtless make many other preparations. Axel
Did you know that Americans would be speaking German, but for the vote of one Irishman, KF? Would Churchill's plea to Roosevelt (or any incumbent President in such a scenario) to join in the war effort with Britain and her allies have been as likely to succeed? Maybe, but maybe historic, national, family loyalties might have come into greater play. The people took some persuading anyway, but the US alone came out of the war a major winner, thanks to Roosevelt's shrewdness and hard bargaining. Axel
BA: The very fact that we have not carved in stone the lessons bought at such cost in blood, sweat toil and tears, speaks volumes. Including, on nihilism. KF kairosfocus
KF: "Are we utterly, stark staring mad as a civilisation?" Yes. Exhibit 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._5,_1948 HT, Sal Barry Arrington
KF, the issues you raise did not come up in my investigation. Whoever opened Pandora's box for Harris was reckless and failed to counterbalance it with any sort of grounding in ethics. Indeed, that person left Harris with the idea that there is no such grounding. Barry Arrington
PPS: Do we realise it was Hitler's strategic blunders that caused Barbarossa to fail in 1941? That Midway was won by the slender margin of torpedo bombers pulling the Japanese fighters low just when dive bombers showed up over carriers changing over strike loads, so three were knocked out in five minutes? That Auchinleck at First Alamein was at the last line in effect? That had Malta been knocked out he probably could not have held? Do we understand how narrow the margin was at the hinge of fate? kairosfocus
BA, do, tell me something -- from your experience with Columbine and beyond, what is in High School history textbooks about Hitler? (Aside from the usual "Nazism is right wing" foolishness that simply expanding "Nazi = National Socialist German Workers/Labour Party" should begin to expose.) What is being taught about fallacies and agit-prop in English, Civics and whatever else? What is being taught about ethics of science, journalism and politics in College? Have we not learned that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat its worst chapters? Didn't it register that Hitler showed the bewitching power of mass media and mass hysteria? That he fooled enough of Germany to gain power there -- one of the best educated and cultured countries at the time? That he then gulled leaders and people all over Europe and North America while he set up the most devastating war in history to date? That the man with the foresight and courage to warn the world was pooh poohed, derided and dismissed until it was all but too late? And more? Do we really want to relive 1938 - 42 again, with nukes in play? Are we utterly, stark staring mad as a civilisation? KF PS: Could somebody sponsor a gift of excerpts of the first couple of volumes of Churchill's WW II as paper samplers to go with DVDs of the 6-vol book to every Congressman/Parliamentarian, Cabinet member and president or prime minister across NATO? kairosfocus
BA, I hear you. This time, it's a civilisation at stake with nukes in play. The ineptitude and apathy in the face of 1938 II, are telling. And meanwhile Iran is out of the headlines just after the deals that look like a green light in Tehran were struck by the same lot who just proved incompetent with Putin. Do we need to remind ourselves that Russia is an ally of Iran, and just provided a useful distraction while a stranglehold is put on world trade choke point no 1, the Persian gulf? Do we need reminding that ever so many energy pipelines to Europe run through . . . the Ukraine (including Crimea)? The talking heads yapping away on the news for the past decade and their news bosses should be hauled before a major truth and reformation commission ethics inquiry and seriously grilled over malfeasance of duty to the public and willful collective suppression of what did not fit their agendas. (Which, FYI hecklers' conventions, as it is not prior restraint on publication, is not censorship.) Will never happen, I am sure. But, people should begin to shun and boycott media that did not spotlight and tell the unwelcome truth in good time. And I don't know what it will take for us to learn that the next would-be Nietzschean dog-hearted superman political messiah is always hanging around looking for opportunities in his own state, and beyond it if he gains power. KF kairosfocus
KF, I suppose we know in some measure how Jeremiah felt. Barry Arrington
BA: Dog-hearted, benumbed conscience, utter want of empathy and en-darkened mind, addicted to lusts. Sounds familiar, quite familiar. KF PS: An electorate that has become so lacking in discernment that it will put such men in high office, and will allow their itching ears to be tickled by their publicists and media amplifiers is setting up for a hard fall . . . such as my native land took a generation ago. kairosfocus
starviego,
If Harris was such a pycho, how come nobody noticed this while he was alive?
Go back and read the Slate article linked in the OP. I excerpted this:
‘Psychopaths are not disoriented or out of touch with reality, nor do they experience the delusions, hallucinations, or intense subjective distress that characterize most other mental disorders,’ writes Dr. Robert Hare, in Without Conscience, the seminal book on the condition. (Hare is also one of the psychologists consulted by the FBI about Columbine and by Slate for this story.) ‘Unlike psychotic individuals, psychopaths are rational and aware of what they are doing and why. Their behavior is the result of choice, freely exercised.’ . . .
You should think about that. Psychopaths are not insane. They lack empathy. Also, the assumption that no one noticed while he was alive is unfounded. In one of those “oops” moments that will live in infamy, the local sheriff’s office received complaints about Harris and actually took steps to have a search warrant issued. Sadly, they did not follow through. Barry Arrington
SV: Part of the horror of the socio-/psycho- path and the wider dark triad pattern, is exactly that they are quite clever at manipulating the decent expectation of common decency, and con people until it is too late. A clever enough one can often fool enough people long enough to gain unlimited power in a state -- hence the grim history of such utterly destructive men in power. (I suspect that the two clues that might trigger a warning to a discerning person are the habitual deceitfulness and the blame others tactic, but I suspect a sufficiently calculating one can fake out those too, at least if the rules and accountability and cross-checks are not tight enough to catch out track record. And, it is such a bear to be doing that sort of audit, and so distasteful, that we are not going to typically see that. Ask why fraud and embezzlement work even in big Co's with stringent accounting safeguards and you will get a good idea.) The spaced out, dissociated look BTW may be a reflection of the disconnect from the victims being preyed on. Have a glance at the linked discussion from esp JS01. KF kairosfocus
Beware of the post-mortem diagnosis. If Harris was such a pycho, how come nobody noticed this while he was alive? I think the shooters were under the influence of mind-control, not Darwin: Library witness Heidi Johnson: "It was like they weren't even there. I saw their faces .... and their eyes were just kind of like, they weren't there, you know, these boys just didn't know what they were doing." starviego
Thanks Barry, your compliment means a lot.
I am a failed politician. I was unable to do what it took to be a successful one. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn’t be proud of that fact.
It's sad -- not to mention the ill it bodes for the commonweal -- that good men can no longer stomach what it takes to run for public office in this country. It's no accident that the concept of government officials has "public servants" has gone from being laughable to being erased from the lexicon. But it's not "a conspiracy" either, exactly. Criminologist, economist and UMKC professor William K. Black's explanation, of what he has dubbed "Gresham's Dynamic" as it relates to the banking crisis of 2007-2009, is instructive. It is a dynamic that can be seen widely as the pattern that sociopaths use, not only to destroy institutional standards, but to take over the institutions that previously adhered to them. In my book, it's a don't-miss presentation... Why Elite Frauds Cause Recurrent, Intensifying Economic, Political and Moral Crises jstanley01
KF, after reading your comment I wondered whether Equiano met my hero Wilberforce. At least according to this website he did not. http://www.thomasclarkson.org/grace10.html Barry Arrington
BA: Welcome, Montserrat's case is unique, a colony settled by Irish refugees from St Kitts [The English did not like Catholic Irish . . . ), who then created their own colony; of course, with slaves -- many would have been indentured servants, who were apparently treated about as badly as African slaves. Divisions among the whites were so deep the Governor banned railing against a man as you English/ Irish/ Scottish whatever. BTW, in was it 1767, Olaudah Equiano, bought his freedom here; he later wrote An Interesting Narrative, and was an Evangelical Christian and activist against the slave trade and slavery. His rebuke to the professing Christians of Britain is quite a statement, written with all the more force as he says his sister was kidnapped into slavery with him and separated from him. He settled in England, married an English girl, and died there in I think the 1790's; IIRC, leaving two daughters. KF kairosfocus
jstanley01, Excellent post. I am a failed politician. I was unable to do what it took to be a successful one. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn’t be proud of that fact. Barry Arrington
JS: Well said, and ask the KGB Colonel on his devices. KF kairosfocus
KF, thanks for the history lesson. I did not know. Barry Arrington
BA: Happy St Pat's to you, too. (And to all.) Indeed, there's been quite a celebration. Complete with visiting African and Irish musicians. The history is, the slaves noted that the day was celebrated a bit too enthusiastically on the liquid refreshments and set the day for an uprising; 1768. They were betrayed, there was an ambush, and ring leaders were executed. Cudjoe Head, top of Brades (de facto ribbon settlement capital) has a silk cotton tree said to have been used to exhibit the head of a ringleader. The revival of interest in roots caused the day of the uprising to become a public holiday. (The Irish descendants, who have been especially concentrated near St Peter's village, celebrate both aspects. That Patrick was kidnapped into slavery, escaped and returned as a missionary, probably have a lesson or two as well.) KF kairosfocus
It's easy to be a successful psychopath, "living the dream" via video games whilst one is ensconced in the parental basement and subsisting out of their larder. Acting out in the real world however -- where force can be met with force -- success lasting longer than a few hours becomes dicier. A fact, the dawning of which I have no doubt, was the deciding factor in the Columbine shooters's decision to commit suicide -- that common end to psychopathic murderers. The more successful psychopaths, it seems clear to me, are those who accrue political power (no need to list history's most-successful here). Which makes the practical question for psychopaths who have a longer-term view than run-of-the-mill murderers like Harris and Klebold, how does one gain such power? How does one gain control of what, to all appearances, is the ultimate exerciser of "legitimate" force in this world -- the power of the state -- and bend it to one's own ends? The way forward for the would-be Übermensch is sociopathy. A term which does not describe "psychopathy lite," but rather, delineates the tactics that psychopaths utilize to ensure their longer-term success. Tactics that work because they take into account the reactions of others to their psychopathy. Not by any kind of emotional empathy, but by an cold-blooded evaluation of an individual's or a society's (a.k.a. "people group's") neuroses and how to exploit them. It follows logically, then, that the more segments of society over which the power of the state is exercised, the more sociopaths there will be in those segments, vying to seize the levers of that power. For anyone who cares to look, this phenomenon has become clearly visible in the U.S. across a wide range of our institutions as the power of the state here has grown. (Are you seeing the logic of the Founders in establishing a federated union of divided and limited governments, along with a Bill of Rights, yet?) The societal neuroses available for sociopaths to exploit have varied over history. At the top of any list would have to be tribalism, nationalism, religious dogmatism, racism and utopianism. But it seems undeniable to me that Darwinism represents a gift to such personalities. A godsend, as it were, in that it eliminates the need for rationales that are actually tangential to the main goal. Rationales that are necessary, only because they serve to soothe those pathetic types -- with whom one must align oneself from time to time during the climb up the pyramid -- who had the ill fortune of being born with a conscience (as argued to exist generally among humans by Christians such as C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity, for instance). If "metaphysical naturalism" is true, the question on the table for those who think they can erect system of ethics based on it, is not whether the view of morality as "weak-kneed sentimentality" necessarily follows for everyone from naturalism's assumptions. The question is, what ethical barriers can such a system erect against the psychopaths who seek to gain power over everyone? For instance (and I believe this is basically the OP author's point) -- if such an apparatus can be made to work, if it can be made to survive (and there are historical reasons to believe it can do both) -- how does one argue on moral grounds against, for instance, George Orwell's Party?
Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.
BTW, my question is not rhetorical. I look forward to being enlightened. T.I.A. jstanley01
KF, happy St. Patrick’s day. I note that you live in one of only five places on earth (four if you count the Irelands as one) that recognize the day as a public holiday (the others being Ireland, Northern Ireland, Newfoundland and Labrador). Barry Arrington
JVL weighs in. kairosfocus
BA & BA77: But our Superman is also an obvious takeoff on the Judaeo-Christian positive Messiah tradition, complete with Hebraic-sounding names, Jor-El and Kal-El. The back story makes interesting reading, especially given the Supermen then strutting the world stage. KF kairosfocus
BA77
Of related interest, ‘Superman’ always used his superpower to defend our highest moral aspirations, whereas the villains in the Superman movies are always in line with the psychopathic bullies that are envisioned by Nietzsche.
You might be surprised to learn that in his original conception Superman was based on (indeed, received his name from) Nietzsche’s Übermensch. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Reign_of_the_Superman Barry Arrington
Neil:
“He would consider empathy to be nothing but weak-kneed sentimentality.” I do not believe that follows from the hypothetical. He might, instead, see empathy as a kind of investment that earns a high rate of return.
If you mean the Übermensch might feign empathy if he believed it suited in him in a particular circumstance, I agree. The Slate story linked in the OP relates an incident in which Eric Harris did so:
Harris married his deceitfulness with a total lack of remorse or empathy—another distinctive quality of the psychopath. Fuselier was finally convinced of his diagnosis when he read Harris' response to being punished after being caught breaking into a van. Klebold and Harris had avoided prosecution for the robbery by participating in a "diversion program" that involved counseling and community service. Both killers feigned regret to obtain an early release, but Harris had relished the opportunity to perform. He wrote an ingratiating letter to his victim offering empathy, rather than just apologies. Fuselier remembers that it was packed with statements like Jeez, I understand now how you feel and I understand what this did to you. "But he wrote that strictly for effect," Fuselier said. "That was complete manipulation. At almost the exact same time, he wrote down his real feelings in his journal: 'Isn't America supposed to be the land of the free? How come, if I'm free, I can't deprive a stupid f---ing dumbshit from his possessions if he leaves them sitting in the front seat of his f---ing van out in plain sight and in the middle of f---ing nowhere on a Frif---ingday night. NATURAL SELECTION. F---er should be shot.' "
But the Übermensch, by definition, never actually feels empathy. Therefore, your assertion that he might see empathy as an investment that earns a high rate of return is obviously false. Given the choice between asserting his will to power and refraining from asserting his will to power because it hurts someone, he sees no principled reason to choose the latter. What principled reason would you give him? Barry Arrington
goodusername
“He would consider empathy to be nothing but weak-kneed sentimentality.” Why?
I would think the answer to that question is obvious. For our clear-eyed, unsentimental Übermensch, “empathy” is an arbitrary barrier to the unfettered assertion of his will to power. You might as well ask why the lion does not feel empathy for the gazelle. The Übermensch says to himself, “I want X. Obtaining X causes pain to my fellow man. I don’t care. Just as the lion is willing to kill the gazelle to satisfy his desire to eat, I am willing to cause pain to my fellow man if that is necessary to get what I want.” If you say to the Übermensch, “you should have empathy for your fellow man,” he will throw your own question back in your face. “Why?” How would you answer him GSU? Barry Arrington
But if metaphysical naturalism were true, and there is nothing beyond matter, space and energy, how can one possibly exert his 'will to power' to become this hypothetical 'superman'? He would have no free will to exercise to be anything other than what the molecules of his brain dictated to him to be. If the molecules of his brain told him to be a helpless victim instead of an insufferable bully, exactly who is this fictitious superman that will rise up against the bidding of the molecules of his brain to tell them to be otherwise? In a world where everything at bottom was blind, pitiless and indifferent, the world could care less about our desires to transcend our physical limitations. Of related interest, 'Superman' always used his superpower to defend our highest moral aspirations, whereas the villains in the Superman movies are always in line with the psychopathic bullies that are envisioned by Nietzsche:
In Man of Steel, Superman Is Pursued by Darwinian Bad Guys David Klinghoffer - June 14, 2013 - video http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/919210/man-of-steel-cast-present-explosive-sneak-peek.jhtml#id=1708891 http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/06/in_man_of_steel073281.html
Supplemental notes:
The first principle of value that we need to rediscover is this: that all reality hinges on moral foundations. In other words, that this is a moral universe, and that there are moral laws of the universe just as abiding as the physical laws.” - Martin Luther King Jr., A Knock at Midnight: Inspiration from the Great Sermons of Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.
The following study, completely contrary to what atheists/materialists would presuppose beforehand, shows that morality is embedded on a much deeper ‘non-local’, beyond space, matter and energy, level.
Quantum Consciousness – Time Flies Backwards? – Stuart Hameroff MD Excerpt: Dean Radin and Dick Bierman have performed a number of experiments of emotional response in human subjects. The subjects view a computer screen on which appear (at randomly varying intervals) a series of images, some of which are emotionally neutral, and some of which are highly emotional (violent, sexual….). In Radin and Bierman’s early studies, skin conductance of a finger was used to measure physiological response They found that subjects responded strongly to emotional images compared to neutral images, and that the emotional response occurred between a fraction of a second to several seconds BEFORE the image appeared! Recently Professor Bierman (University of Amsterdam) repeated these experiments with subjects in an fMRI brain imager and found emotional responses in brain activity up to 4 seconds before the stimuli. Moreover he looked at raw data from other laboratories and found similar emotional responses before stimuli appeared. http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/views/TimeFlies.html
A little known fact, a fact that is very antagonistic to the genetic reductionism model of neo-Darwinism, is that, besides environmental factors, even our thoughts and feelings can ‘epigenetically’ control the gene expression of our bodies. Thus given us a certain measure of control over our 'genetic fates'. i.e. We are not merely helpless victims of our genes as is presupposed in Darwinism:
Genie In Your Genes – video http://www.genieinyourgenes.com/ggtrailer.html Scientists Finally Show How Your Thoughts Can Cause Specific Molecular Changes To Your Genes, – December 10, 2013 Excerpt: “To the best of our knowledge, this is the first paper that shows rapid alterations in gene expression within subjects associated with mindfulness meditation practice,” says study author Richard J. Davidson, founder of the Center for Investigating Healthy Minds and the William James and Vilas Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. “Most interestingly, the changes were observed in genes that are the current targets of anti-inflammatory and analgesic drugs,” says Perla Kaliman, first author of the article and a researcher at the Institute of Biomedical Research of Barcelona, Spain (IIBB-CSIC-IDIBAPS), where the molecular analyses were conducted.,,, the researchers say, there was no difference in the tested genes between the two groups of people at the start of the study. The observed effects were seen only in the meditators following mindfulness practice. In addition, several other DNA-modifying genes showed no differences between groups, suggesting that the mindfulness practice specifically affected certain regulatory pathways. http://www.tunedbody.com/scientists-finally-show-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes/
Also of note: Love is shown to have a healing power:
ABC News – The Science Behind the Healing Power of Love – video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t1p-PwGgE4 Social isolation and its health implications January 2012 Excerpt: Studies show that social isolation and/or loneliness predict morbidity and mortality from cancer, cardiovascular disease, and a host of other diseases. In fact, the body perceives loneliness as a threat. Research from the University of California suggests that loneliness or lack of social support could triple the odds of being diagnosed with a heart condition. Redford Williams and his colleagues at Duke University directed a study in 1992 on heart patients and their relationships. They discovered that 50% of patients with heart disease who did not have a spouse or someone to confide in died within five years, while only 17% of those who did have a confidante died in the same time period.12 http://www.how-to-be-healthy.org/social-isolation-and-its-health-implications/
Verse and Music:
1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. Black Eyed Peas - Where Is The Love? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc
bornagain77
Both you missed the point of the OP. If atheism to be true, then there is no reason to stick to any principles for any longer than they are practical or useful. 'Values' (in the sense that most people understand them) are not always useful as proved by the fact that people do questionable or 'evil' things all the time and yet get rewarded for it. Atheistic morality is a toothless tiger. Jul3s
He would consider empathy to be nothing but weak-kneed sentimentality.
Why? goodusername
Let us assume for the sake of argument that metaphysical naturalism is a true account of reality. What if a person were able to act based on a clear-eyed and unsentimental understanding of the consequences outlined above? If that person had the courage not to be overwhelmed by the utter meaningless of existence, he would be transformed.
Okay, let's assume that hypothetical.
He would consider empathy to be nothing but weak-kneed sentimentality.
I do not believe that follows from the hypothetical. He might, instead, see empathy as a kind of investment that earns a high rate of return. Neil Rickert

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