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L&FP, 57: What is naturalism? Is it a viable — or even the only viable — worldview and approach to knowledge?

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What is naturalism? (And why do some speak in terms of evolutionary materialistic scientism?)

While everything touched on by philosophy is of course open to disagreements and seemingly endless debate, we can find a good enough point of reference through AmHD:

3. Philosophy The system of thought holding that all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws.
4. Theology The doctrine that all religious truths are derived from nature and natural causes and not from revelation.

The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy suggests:

The term “naturalism” has no very precise meaning in contemporary philosophy. Its current usage derives from debates in America in the first half of the last century. The self-proclaimed “naturalists” from that period included John Dewey, Ernest Nagel, Sidney Hook and Roy Wood Sellars. These philosophers aimed to ally philosophy more closely with science. They urged that reality is exhausted by nature, containing nothing “supernatural”, and that the scientific method should be used to investigate all areas of reality, including the “human spirit” (Krikorian 1944, Kim 2003) . . . . Those philosophers with relatively weak naturalist commitments are inclined to understand “naturalism” in a unrestrictive way, in order not to disqualify themselves as “naturalists”, while those who uphold stronger naturalist doctrines are happy to set the bar for “naturalism” higher.[2]

The Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy comments:

Naturalism is an approach to philosophical problems that interprets them as tractable through the methods of the empirical sciences or at least, without a distinctively a priori project of theorizing. For much of the history of philosophy it has been widely held that philosophy involved a distinctive method, and could achieve knowledge distinct from that attained by the special sciences. Thus, metaphysics and epistemology have often jointly occupied a position of “first philosophy,” laying the necessary grounds for the understanding of reality and the justification of knowledge claims. Naturalism rejects philosophy’s claim to that special status. Whether in epistemology, ethics, philosophy of mind, philosophy of language, or other areas, naturalism seeks to show that philosophical problems as traditionally conceived are ill-formulated and can be solved or displaced by appropriately naturalistic methods. Naturalism often assigns a key role to the methods and results of the empirical sciences, and sometimes aspires to reductionism and physicalism.

Then, there is Wikipedia, speaking of its own core tendencies:

In philosophy, naturalism is the idea or belief that only natural laws and forces (as opposed to supernatural ones) operate in the universe.[1]

<<Naturalism is not so much a special system as a point of view or tendency common to a number of philosophical and religious systems; not so much a well-defined set of positive and negative doctrines as an attitude or spirit pervading and influencing many doctrines. As the name implies, this tendency consists essentially in looking upon nature as the one original and fundamental source of all that exists, and in attempting to explain everything in terms of nature. Either the limits of nature are also the limits of existing reality, or at least the first cause, if its existence is found necessary, has nothing to do with the working of natural agencies. All events, therefore, find their adequate explanation within nature itself. But, as the terms nature and natural are themselves used in more than one sense, the term naturalism is also far from having one fixed meaning. — Dubray 1911>>

According to philosopher Steven Lockwood, naturalism can be separated into an ontological sense and a methodological sense.[2] “Ontological” refers to ontology, the philosophical study of what exists. On an ontological level, philosophers often treat naturalism as equivalent to materialism. For example, philosopher Paul Kurtz argues that nature is best accounted for by reference to material principles. These principles include mass, energy, and other physical and chemical properties accepted by the scientific community. Further, this sense of naturalism holds that spirits, deities, and ghosts are not real and that there is no “purpose” in nature. This stronger formulation of naturalism is commonly referred to as metaphysical naturalism.[3] On the other hand, the more moderate view that naturalism should be assumed in one’s working methods as the current paradigm, without any further consideration of whether naturalism is true in the robust metaphysical sense, is called methodological naturalism.[4] With the exception of pantheists—who believe that Nature is identical with divinity while not recognizing a distinct personal anthropomorphic god—theists challenge the idea that nature contains all of reality.

So, already, we can see why it is quite reasonable to speak of “evolutionary materialistic scientism,” as that explicitly summarises a relevant, even dominant, form of naturalism commonly seen on the ground, especially in scientific and policy contexts.

Namely, following AmHD, the scheme of thought or view that “all phenomena can be explained in terms of natural causes and laws.” That is, evolutionary materialism from hydrogen to humans, and scientism that reduces knowledge and know-ability to scientific approaches shaped by this a priori such that science as conceived monopolises or even dominates what can be called knowledge. Much as Lewontin, the US National Science Teachers, Martin Mahner, Monod and others have variously said.

Lewontin’s well-known phrase is that Science is “the only begetter of truth.”

Manifestly, such a claim fails.

First, the scientism is self refuting, self referentially incoherent (and depends on its institutionalised power to get us to lock out other perfectly valid approaches to warrant that substantiates knowledge . . . with, of course, the first duties of reasoning lurking out of the fog).

Of course, some here may appeal to an older sense of “Science,” meaning, systematic study on reasonable and responsible principles leading to an agreed body of discussion and knowledge with best practices, i.e. a discipline. In this older sense, Theology had reason to claim to be Queen of the Sciences, especially as she embraced a good slice of philosophy. If you are unwilling to acknowledge Theology and Philosophy or Ethics as sciences, then you cannot appeal to that older sense of science. And if one insists on science as pivoting on empirical observation and linked explanatory theorising (especially when mathematical analysis can be applied), then a core part of doing science is not science, Mathematics, the study of the logic of structure and quantity . . . applied and extended logic of being.

That’s before one recognises that the claim Science monopolises or so dominates knowledge that once it steps in, all else is silenced, is not a scientific claim. It is a proposed thesis of epistemology, the philosophical study of knowledge, warrant and related matters. That is, scientism is self referentially incoherent and absurd.

Once these points are realised, the idea that we may freely impose so-called methodological naturalism without having smuggled in metaphysical naturalism, collapses. Instead, we must open ourselves instead to any valid approach to learning and warranting what we may learn; and in that context, the legitimacy of philosophy, logic of being [i.e. ontology], wider metaphysics, epistemology, logic, ethics and even aesthetics is obvious. So is the credibility of historical and forensic or common sense knowledge, and so are many other approaches to knowledge that can meet the duties to truth, right reason, warrant and wider prudence.

Indeed, we may make a minimal algebraic analysis, regarding any distinctly identifiable field of study amenable to careful reasoned discussion:

The truth claim, “there are no [generally knowable] objective truths regarding any matter,” roughly equivalent to, “knowledge is inescapably only subjective,” is an error. Which, happily, can be recognised and corrected.

Often, such error is presented and made to seem plausible through the diversity of opinions assertion, with implication that none have or are in a position to have a generally warranted, objective conclusion. This, in extreme form, is a key thesis of the nihilism that haunts our civilisation, which we must detect, expose to the light of day, correct and dispel, in defence of civilisation and human dignity. (NB: Sometimes the blind men and the elephant fable is used to make it seem plausible, overlooking the narrator’s implicit claim to objectivity.)

Now, to set things aright, let’s symbolise: ~[O*G] with * as AND. It intends to describe not mere opinion but warranted, credible truth about knowledge in general.

So,

~[O*G] = 1 . . .

is self referential as it is clearly about subject matter G, and is intended to be a well warranted objectively true claim.

But it is itself therefore a truth claim about knowledge in general intended to be taken as objectively true, which is what it tries to deny as a possibility.

So, it is self contradictory and necessarily false:

PHASE I: Let a proposition be represented by x G = x is a proposition asserting that some state of affairs regarding some matter in general including history, science, the secrets of our hearts, morality etc, is the case O = x is objective and knowable, being adequately warranted as credibly true}

PHASE II: It is claimed, S= ~[O*G] = 1, 1 meaning true

However, the subject of S is G, it therefore claims to be objectively true, O and is about G
where it forbids O-status to any claim of type G
so, ~[O*G] cannot be true per self referential incoherence

PHASE III: The Algebra, translating from S: ~[O*G] = 0 [as self referential and incoherent cf above] ~[~[O*G]] = 1 [the negation is therefore true]
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CONCLUSION I: O*G = 1 [condensing not of not] where, G [general truth claim including moral ones of course]

So too, O [if an AND is true, each sub proposition is separately true]

CONCLUSION II: That is, there are objective truths for any distinctly identifiable topic of study; and a first, self evident one is that ~[O*G] is false, ~[O*G] = 0. The set of knowable objective truths in general — and embracing those that happen to be about states of affairs in regard to right conduct etc — is non empty, it is not vacuous and we cannot play empty set square of opposition games with it.

That’s important.

Also, there are many particular objective general and moral truths that are adequately warranted to be regarded as reliable. Try, Napoleon was once a European monarch and would be conqueror. Try, Jesus of Nazareth is a figure of history. Try, it is wrong to torture babies for fun, and more.

Ours is a needlessly confused age

The scientism part has failed.

So does the evolutionary materialism part (once we realise that to do science we must be rationally, responsibly free and this cannot be reduced to computation on a blindly mechanical substrate), as for example J B S Haldane long since pointed out. Let us — yes again — cite him, reframing in terms of laid out propositions:

“It seems to me immensely unlikely that mind is a mere by-product of matter. For

if

[p:] my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain

[–> taking in DNA, epigenetics and matters of computer organisation, programming and dynamic-stochastic processes; notice, “my brain,” i.e. self referential]
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[THEN]

[q:] I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true.

[–> indeed, blindly mechanical computation is not in itself a rational process, the only rationality is the canned rationality of the programmer, where survival-filtered lucky noise is not a credible programmer, note the functionally specific, highly complex organised information rich code and algorithms in D/RNA, i.e. language and goal directed stepwise process . . . an observationally validated adequate source for such is _____ ?]

[Corollary 1:] They may be sound chemically, but that does not make them sound logically.

And hence

[Corollary 2:] I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms. [–> grand, self-referential delusion, utterly absurd self-falsifying incoherence]

[Implied, Corollary 3: Reason and rationality collapse in a grand delusion, including of course general, philosophical, logical, ontological and moral knowledge; reductio ad absurdum, a FAILED, and FALSE, intellectually futile and bankrupt, ruinously absurd system of thought.]

In order to escape from this necessity of sawing away the branch on which I am sitting, so to speak, I am compelled to believe that mind is not wholly conditioned by matter.” [“When I am dead,” in Possible Worlds: And Other Essays [1927], Chatto and Windus: London, 1932, reprint, p.209. Cf. here on (and esp here) on the self-refutation by self-falsifying self referential incoherence and on linked amorality.]

Re-conceive us as oracle machines, where the in the cybernetic loop neural network processors are also interacting with a supervisory oracle, and we arrive at Eng Derek Smith’s sort of vision:

The Eng Derek Smith Cybernetic Model

Notice, this is not a low level analysis of say an insect, the point is that we can see a supervisor, interacting through say quantum influences, with not instinct but rational, responsible wisdom. True freedom of the rational soul is back on the table, whatever the likes of a Provine may imagine, by suggesting that “human free will is nonexistent . . . . humans are locally determined systems that make choices. They have, however, no free will.”

So, are you sufficiently responsibly and rationally free to make a rational objection, pivoting on first principles and duties of reason? If so, evolutionary materialistic scientism is dead; if not, then what may be chemically sound as a matter of cause effect chains in your brain, has no framework to claim more than being a product of GIGO limited computation. So, it has no power to properly claim warrant on ground-consequent relations or inference to best explanation etc.

Naturalism, as commonly proposed, fails. END

Comments
CD = TrollAaronS1978
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WJM at 40, You too :)relatd
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Jerry at 36, Wha... what? What the heck does that mean? Or are you prone to making irrational statements?relatd
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Jerry at 30, To borrow from a reference I can no longer find: 'We must repeat the truth daily to combat the lies being spread among the people.' The media is blaring at us daily. Without a literal list of things that are true, part of their job is to steer people off course - away from truth.relatd
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WJM at 26, Why do you write nonsense? Why? That is the question. How do you handle real life? With irrational decisions? "Most choices are irrational." Seriously? Are you prepared to stand up in a room full of people and say that?relatd
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Seversky at 23, Why make it complicated? All men should desire the truth. Not civil, well-mannered phrases that hide a lie - the Truth. Nothing less.relatd
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Jerry, part of the effect is precisely the exposing of the want of cogent response to the OP and linked issues. That tells us just how cracked the foundation of the dominant narrative is. Time for sound reformation. KFkairosfocus
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LCD, oddly, because we are rational, responsible, morally governed creatures, we can and do know that basic fact through some common sense reasoning. For example, those who object to objective principles do so because they think something is wrong with them. That is, they cannot but sit on the same first duties branch with the rest of us. If we are willing to pay attention, that's a clue that we are dealing with self evident first principles. So, we know we are morally governed and we know some first duties. As one is duty to neighbour, it carries with it fairness, justice and the list of commands Paul highlights in Rom 13:8 - 10 and echoes in 2:12-15. Where, he endorses the sort of received insights Cicero summarised. This is epistemology, knowing that. Such opens up knowing why and how, the root of reality issue. That requires the inherently good and utterly wise. But even this is philosophy, logic of being applied to a world in which there are morally governed creatures. Sound religion, unsurprisingly, will endorse that. But the crying religion we are seeing is abut trying to dismiss with prejudice without having to ponder serious questions. Irresponsible rhetorical stunts, in short. Time to do better. KFkairosfocus
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will have zero effect
I agree 100%. Logic does not work a large percentage of the time on UD no matter which side the commenter is on. Often the objective here is not understanding or communicating clearly.
143,738,027 comments
That’s a thousand times more comments than ever made on UD. Amazing proclivity.jerry
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Meanwhile, Jerry has contributed 5,874,793,271 words and 143,738,027 comments here complaining about unnecessary words and comments, knowing full well and admitting that his complaining will have zero effect. Except, you know, to add to the volume of unnecessary words and comments. You know, maybe we are, after all, meatsack automatons that just do whatever the biochemicals tell us to do ....William J Murray
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Jerry Every time religion enters the comments you can be sure it’s irrelevant just as free will is irrelevant.
:lol: 1st Commandment of Jerry the Great about what you should do. This is about ethics and morality (=religion) . Where from did you get your Commandment? What is the foundation of your rule about what should happen when somebody write a comment?Lieutenant Commander Data
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F/N: Relevance? Lesse, the OP's title, again: "What is naturalism? Is it a viable — or even the only viable — worldview and approach to knowledge?" Where, this is no 57 in the series on logic and first principles. KFkairosfocus
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we need to set the record straight
Can be done very simply. If, you really want to set the record straight there is no need for all these extraneous concepts. They just get in the way. In the last couple years you personally have written over a million words on this or related ideas. Most were unnecessary. Now if you approach this from the simplicity of it all, it will lead to the illogic that is used against this simplicity. That will not only be a simpler approach but communicate more clearly.
Is it a viable — or even the only viable
Easily addressed. No need for long involved discussions. As I said they are irrelevant.jerry
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Jerry, it is precisely the ignorance regarding or denial of this heritage that led to scientism. To correct it, at least in outline we need to set the record straight. KFkairosfocus
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I am pointing out that from the beginning, logic is a main branch of philosophy and that other disciplines including the sciences derive from extensions of philosophy so are inextricably entangled with it
All unnecessary to address the basic issue which is extremely simple. But to do so would eliminate thousands of irrelevant words. Already over 7500 words, 2/3+ irrelevant. As I said, irrelevant words/ideas are the norm for UD.jerry
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Jerry, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUg2cp23rGEWilliam J Murray
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WJM: I mean, really, why waste time with Socrates, Aristotle and Plato when we got Vizzini here to do the ‘splaining? Inconceivable!
https://youtu.be/dTRKCXC0JFgJHolo
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Jerry, no. I am pointing out that from the beginning, logic is a main branch of philosophy and that other disciplines including the sciences derive from extensions of philosophy so are inextricably entangled with it. Further, warrant and knowledge use logic and are another main branch, epistemology. We cannot establish a sound body of knowledge without involvement of these main philosophical disciplines. Where, for example, math is perhaps best seen as an extension of logic of being, study of the logic of structure and quantity, where we can start with von Neumann so we get N, then Z,Q,R,C,R* etc and more. That heritage was laid out from the first, by said trio. (Which does not mean they made no errors, nor that we have not built up much on the first thoughts.) The error of scientism is to be blind to that heritage, which is how it instantly refutes itself. We would be well advised to fix our education systems to instead acknowledge that heritage, or science frankly becomes a fraudulent crooked yardstick that builds on error and uses key errors to dismiss what is sound. Which should sound all too familiar, for cause. KFkairosfocus
July 24, 2022
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You are implying that anytime one uses logic, one must cite/refer to ancient philosophers. Absolute nonsense. They just get in the way.
I mean, really, why waste time with Socrates, Aristotle and Plato when we got Vizzini here to do the 'splaining? Inconceivable!William J Murray
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when we go down the road of logic, we meet Socrates, Plato and Aristotle
No need for any of these philosophers. You are implying that anytime one uses logic, one must cite/refer to ancient philosophers. Absolute nonsense. They just get in the way. As I said they are just irrelevant comments. But that’s the norm on UD.jerry
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KF @41, That actually made me laugh out loud.William J Murray
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It's a mirikle!kairosfocus
July 24, 2022
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No need for Plato, just simple logic. No need for any philosophy at all.
In other news, I cut down a tree near my house but I still have the shade it provided.William J Murray
July 24, 2022
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Jerry, as usual, when we go down the road of logic, we meet Socrates, Plato and Aristotle on the way back. There is bite to the saying that Philosophy is a collection of footnotes to Plato. Many do not wish to acknowledge that inheritance, but that does not make it any less true. KF PS, and of course, scientism does not wish to acknowledge its philosophical character as that is what exposes its self-refutation.kairosfocus
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It’s very very simple. No need for Plato, just simple logic. No need for any philosophy at all.jerry
July 24, 2022
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Jerry, the core theme was sounded by Plato, and thoughts are acts of the self-moved. Unless the physicalists etc are content to be hopelessly self referentially incoherent they must reckon with self aware thought as a first empirical datum, one we routinely communicate to others like ourselves. This is a first, self evident fact. And for thought to have credibility it must be free and rational, responsible before first duties. As Haldane pointed out 95 years ago, it cannot be reasonably reduced to dynamic-stochastic computation on a wetware substrate. That would undermine even the materialists and evolutionists. Provine and Rosenberg etc, necessarily, are wrong. That brings us full circle to Plato's point, that the self moved principle, the intelligent soul, is before the physical world, which in its laws and coherent order reflects its roots in mind. Evolutionary materialistic scientism is dead and it takes down with it its fellow travellers. Whose name is legion. KFkairosfocus
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this one is bigger than free will
That’s true. But it is incredibly simple too. Probably a lot of irrelevant comments will be made. Many have already been made. Every time religion enters the comments you can be sure it’s irrelevant just as free will is irrelevant.jerry
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LCD, food for thought. Free, unprogrammed, creative, rational, intelligent thought is a refutation of a worldview in which there can be no genuinely free thoughts. KFkairosfocus
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Jerry, this one is bigger than free will, though it includes the self-moved as the ensouled thus first cause. KFkairosfocus
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PS, It is worth the pause to reflect on Plato in The Laws, Bk X, where notoriously wherever we go in thought we meet Plato, Socrates and Aristotle on the way back. Citing:
Ath [enian Stranger in The Laws, Bk X 2,360 ya]. . . .[The avant garde philosophers and poets, c. 360 BC] say that fire and water, and earth and air [i.e the classical "material" elements of the cosmos -- the natural order], all exist by nature and chance, and none of them by art . . . [such that] all that is in the heaven, as well as animals and all plants, and all the seasons come from these elements, not by the action of mind, as they say, or of any God, or from art, but as I was saying, by nature and chance only [ --> that is, evolutionary materialism is ancient and would trace all things to blind chance and mechanical necessity, contrasted to "the action of mind" i.e. intelligently directed configuration] . . . . [[T]hese people would say that the Gods exist not by nature, but by art, and by the laws of states, which are different in different places, according to the agreement of those who make them . . . . Then, by Heaven, we have discovered the source of this vain opinion of all those physical investigators . . . . they affirm that which is the first cause of the generation and destruction of all things, to be not first, but last, and that which is last to be first, and hence they have fallen into error about the true nature of the Gods. Cle. Still I do not understand you. Ath. Nearly all of them, my friends, seem to be ignorant of the nature and power of the soul [[ = psuche], especially in what relates to her origin: they do not know that she is among the first of things, and before all bodies, and is the chief author of their changes and transpositions. And if this is true, and if the soul is older than the body, must not the things which are of the soul's kindred be of necessity prior to those which appertain to the body? Cle. Certainly. Ath. Then thought and attention and mind and art and law will be prior to that which is hard and soft and heavy and light; and the great and primitive works and actions will be works of art; they will be the first, and after them will come nature and works of nature, which however is a wrong term for men to apply to them; these will follow, and will be under the government of art and mind. Cle. But why is the word "nature" wrong? Ath. Because those who use the term mean to say that nature is the first creative power; but if the soul turn out to be the primeval element, and not fire or air, then in the truest sense and beyond other things the soul may be said to exist by nature; and this would be true if you proved that the soul is older than the body, but not otherwise. [[ . . . .] Ath. . . . when one thing changes another, and that another, of such will there be any primary changing element? How can a thing which is moved by another ever be the beginning of change? Impossible. But when the self-moved changes other, and that again other, and thus thousands upon tens of thousands of bodies are set in motion, must not the beginning of all this motion be the change of the self-moving principle? . . . . self-motion being the origin of all motions, and the first which arises among things at rest as well as among things in motion, is the eldest and mightiest principle of change, and that which is changed by another and yet moves other is second. [--> notice, the self-moved, initiating, reflexively acting causal agent, which defines freedom as essential to our nature, and this is root of discussion on agents as first causes.] [[ . . . .] Ath. If we were to see this power existing in any earthy, watery, or fiery substance, simple or compound-how should we describe it? Cle. You mean to ask whether we should call such a self-moving power life? Ath. I do. Cle. Certainly we should. Ath. And when we see soul in anything, must we not do the same-must we not admit that this is life? [[ . . . . ] Cle. You mean to say that the essence which is defined as the self-moved is the same with that which has the name soul? Ath. Yes; and if this is true, do we still maintain that there is anything wanting in the proof that the soul is the first origin and moving power of all that is, or has become, or will be, and their contraries, when she has been clearly shown to be the source of change and motion in all things? Cle. Certainly not; the soul as being the source of motion, has been most satisfactorily shown to be the oldest of all things. Ath. And is not that motion which is produced in another, by reason of another, but never has any self-moving power at all, being in truth the change of an inanimate body, to be reckoned second, or by any lower number which you may prefer? Cle. Exactly. Ath. Then we are right, and speak the most perfect and absolute truth, when we say that the soul is prior to the body, and that the body is second and comes afterwards, and is born to obey the soul, which is the ruler? [[ . . . . ] Ath. If, my friend, we say that the whole path and movement of heaven, and of all that is therein, is by nature akin to the movement and revolution and calculation of mind, and proceeds by kindred laws, then, as is plain, we must say that the best soul takes care of the world and guides it along the good path. [[Plato here explicitly sets up an inference to design (by a good soul) from the intelligible order of the cosmos.
Thus we see a longstanding challenge to physicalism, where PHUSIS or PHYSIS is of course the term for "nature" being used in the Greek. This is of course the first design inference on record in our civilisation. And, it is cosmological, arguing to mind as antecedent to the physical world we inhabit. This issue, then, is absolutely central to the matters contemplated here at UD and fully merits the focus of an OP on Logic and First Principles. Given the penumbra of attack sites, it will be interesting to see how the substantial questions are addressed.kairosfocus
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