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Strong emergence principle emerges in biology

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Things happen that can’t be explained without design:

Complex, multigenic biological traits are shaped by the emergent interaction of proteins being the main functional units at the molecular scale. Based on a phenomenological approach, algorithms for quantifying two different aspects of emergence were introduced (Wegner and Hao in Progr Biophys Mol Biol 161:54-61, 2021) describing: (i) pairwise reciprocal interactions of proteins mutually modifying their contribution to a complex trait (denoted as weak emergence), and (ii) formation of a new, complex trait by a set of n ‘constitutive’ proteins at concentrations exceeding individual threshold values (strong emergence). The latter algorithm is modified here to take account of protein redundancy with respect to a complex trait (‘full redundancy’). Irreducibility is considered a necessary and sufficient criterion for strong biological emergence; if one constitutive protein is missing, or its concentration drops below the threshold the trait is lost. A definition based on ‘unpredictability’ is dismissed, because this criterion is irrelevant for the evolution of a complex trait, and apparent unpredictability may rather reflect our basic deficits in understanding unless we can provide an unequivocal proof for it. The phenomenological approach advocated here allows to identify hidden rules according to which strongly emergent traits may be organized. This is of high value for understanding the evolution of complex traits which seems to require the saltational advent of all constitutive proteins ‘in one turn’ to arrive at a functional trait providing for an improved fitness of the organism. Rather than being a purely random process, it may be guided by fundamental structural principles.

Hao Z, Liu J, Wu B, Yu M, Wegner LH. Strong Emergence in Biological Systems: Is It Open to Mathematical Reasoning? Acta Biotheor. 2021 Dec;69(4):841-856. doi: 10.1007/s10441-021-09423-1. Epub 2021 Aug 31. PMID: 34463940.

Not that they put it that way.

The paper is open access.

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I also tried it and couldn't position my hands as in the Shroud image. The Wikipedia entry also notes that the image shows the arms to be abnormally long. There are also the questions of how accurate this X-ray technique is and, as the researchers note, it assumes the Shroud was stored under optimal conditions for the thirteen centuries where we have no idea at all about where it might have been kept.Seversky
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I just tried an experiment. Lying flat on the floor, I tried getting my hands to cover my groin as in the shroud image. Result: my arms aren't long enough. Of course I may have shorter than average arms though I'm not aware of it. Off-the-peg clothes fit well enough. Maybe others would like to try it.Fred Hickson
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Great reflection, PaV. I really think the Gospel was referring to the shroud when they "saw and believed". And yes, it's easy to forget the gift-aspect of faith. Good arguments can help but as you rightly say, it has to come from above, enlightening mind and heart.Silver Asiatic
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I was interested to see that one author, Giulio Fanti, had predicted the possibility of using this technique 30 years ago. Fanti has taken part in other novel techniques testing the age of fabrics, including stretch tests. The range of dates was, from memory, 300-400 years either side of the recorded event. The precision obtained in this particular test is a big improvement in narrowing; and the test is readily available to comparing the Shroud with ancient fabrics with known dates in Europe.Belfast
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Silver Asiatic: Thanks for the link. If this experimental evidence holds up, the Western world will have to completely rethink the Shroud of Turin. And, in particular, scientists will have their hands filled trying to explain how any of this is possible using any known methods known to mankind, either in the First Century or in the Twenty-First Century. In St. John's Gospel, he writes that "this disciple" (St. John) went into the tomb and saw the burial garments. And he ends saying that this disciple John) "saw and believed." I'm afraid the scientists of today will "see," understand the supernatural origins required of this event, and still "not believe." Alas. Faith is a gift that comes from above. We have but to ask for it. (If God chooses, he can flood this faith into our hearts and mind as St. Paul experienced.)PaV
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This is an item BA77 would be interested in - and others here I hope - posting on this thread for lack of a better place. Breaking news on new Shroud of Turin analysis Published: 11 April 2022 https://www.mdpi.com/2571-9408/5/2/47/htm On a sample of the Turin Shroud (TS), we applied a new method for dating ancient linen threads by inspecting their structural degradation by means of Wide-Angle X-ray Scattering (WAXS). The X-ray dating method was applied to a sample of the TS consisting of a thread taken in proximity of the 1988/radiocarbon area (corner of the TS corresponding to the feet area of the frontal image, near the so-called Raes sample). The size of the linen sample was about 0.5 mm × 1 mm. We obtained one-dimensional integrated WAXS data profiles for the TS sample, which were fully compatible with the analogous measurements obtained on a linen sample whose dating, according to historical records, is 55–74 AD, Siege of Masada (Israel). The degree of natural aging of the cellulose that constitutes the linen of the investigated sample, obtained by X-ray analysis, showed that the TS fabric is much older than the seven centuries proposed by the 1988 radiocarbon dating. The experimental results are compatible with the hypothesis that the TS is a 2000-year-old relic, as supposed by Christian traditionSilver Asiatic
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“ Rather than being a purely random process, it may be guided by fundamental structural principles.” But Darwin, Monod, Huxley stress that ‘randomness’ is the very heart - in fact, a necessary truth - in evolution! The obvious absence of randomness in saltation, still an impediment to belief in Darwinism, can be overcome by ‘hidden rules.’??? Mayr had a similar watery approach.Belfast
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