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The bionic antinomy of Darwinism

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Do you remember when I said “when a thing is untrue, if we say it is true we get contradictions” (The Darwinism contradiction of repair systems)? Here I will deal with another contradiction of Darwinism: that we could name its “bionic antinomy”.

According to Wikipedia “Bionics (also known as biomimetics, bio-inspiration, biognosis, biomimicry, or bionical creativity engineering) is the application of biological methods and systems found in nature to the study and design of engineering systems and modern technology.” In fact, whether we analyze the history of technology, we find how often technical innovations and systems take inspiration from natural models. For some of the more recent examples of biomimetics see The 15 Coolest Cases of Biomimicry. This article synthetically defines bionics as “biologically inspired engineering”.

Bionics divides in sub-fields. For example, robotics, cybernetics and Artificial Intelligence try even to simulate the human body and mind. By the way these research fields are far from having achieved their long-term goal: to construct an artificial intelligent living being. These sub-fields of bionics, despite they are at the forefront of the technological advance, are those where the qualitative differences between artificial and natural systems are maximum. Matters of principle do exist that scientists never will succeed in such task of artificial creation of a true intelligent living being. Yes they will succeed to construct a robot simulating a human, but this robot will be neither really intelligent nor living. And less than less it will be a real “being” either. But this is another story…

The story herein is the strange phenomenon that happens when bionic and biological systems are put on the same table and compared. When a system “biologically inspired” to a certain biological system is considered in technology the terminology applied to it is engineering jargon (what else). When that biological system itself is considered in biology the terminology applied is purely Darwinian. For example, before the sonar of a submarine they say it is sophisticated engineering; before the sonar of a bat they say it is natural selection. This odd double standard always struck me.

What makes this double standard even more absurd is that, as noted above about robotics, the natural systems usually are more optimized and efficient than the equivalent artificial ones. For example, the bats have an echometer emitting 100 kHz supersonic pulses at a frequency of 30 times per second. These waves are reflected and distorted by the surrounding objects and their echoes are intercepted and elaborated by the bat to catch its prey and also just to get around. The signal processing of these echoes is so accurate to allow bats to fly, twisting, looping and zig-zagging through the air, into a completely dark room intersected by tens pianoforte strings without grazing them. The bat’s echometer has more accuracy, more efficiency, less power consumption and less size than any artificial sonar constructed by engineers. What … technological jewel! And many other wonderful examples could be considered in nature.

Let’s try to formalize somehow as a very logic antinomy the double standard situation described above.

(1) Intelligence is what creates and optimizes artificial systems by inserting complex specified information into them. Intelligence is the unique source of CSI.
(2) Bionic systems are fully created by intelligence. Say B the CSI of a bionic system, B > 0.
(3) A bionic system is less efficient than the similar natural system (say N its CSI). Then B < N.
(4) Natural systems are not created by intelligence, then N = 0. This is the fundamental axiom of Darwinian evolution: natural systems seem to be designed by intelligence but it is an illusion only.
(5) From #3 (B < N) and #4 (N = 0) we have B < 0.
(6) From #2 and #5 we have in the same time B > 0 and B < 0, i.e. an absurdum.

The above reasoning logically proves that the evolutionist double standard is a very antinomy. In all logic antinomies there is at least a premise that is untrue. I am sure the UD readers will have no difficulty to discover that the false premise is #4, indeed the Darwinian main hypothesis (all species arose by unintelligent natural processes).
There is a teaching for evolutionists here (as in all other contradictions of Darwinism), simply they cannot have it both ways: biological systems undesigned and their artificial clones designed. Since they cannot deny design in artificial clones, they should resign themselves to consider as designed their biological archetypes too.

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bornagain77, Amen.semigloss
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When I was young, I said to God, "God, tell me the mystery of the universe." But God answered, "That knowledge is reserved for me alone." So I said, "God, tell me the mystery of the peanut." Then God said, "Well George, that's more nearly your size." And he told me. - George Washington Carverbornagain77
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Of course our resident Darwinian experts could, instead of offering the standard Darwinian fairy tales, tell us exactly, step by step, protein by protein, gene by gene, in a bottom up natural manner, how this multi-tiered system of complexity of the Bats sonar arose via purely naturalistic Darwinian processes.
I’m not going to take the bait. You’re asking me to play a game: “Provide as much detail in terms of possible causal mechanisms for your Darwinian position as I do for my ID position.” Evolutionary biology is not a mechanistic theory, and it’s not evolutionary biology’s task to match your pathetic level of detail in telling mechanistic stories. If evolutionary theory is correct and natural selection is responsible and indispensable for certain structures, then it makes no sense to try to ape your method of connecting the dots. True, there may be dots to be connected. But there may also be fundamental natural processes, and by applying evolutionary theory that is what evolutionary biologists are discovering. Or not... http://www.iscid.org/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000152;p=3Allen_MacNeill
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mikev6 , Why don't you ask Him yourself? Search For Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence - SETI receives message from God,,,,, Almost - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiQ8Jr5B2Eo Isaiah 45:18-19 For thus says the Lord, who created the heavens, who is God, who formed the earth and made it, who established it, who did not create it in vain, who formed it to be inhabited: “I am the Lord, and there is no other. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth; I did not say to the seed of Jacob, ‘seek me in vain’; I, the Lord speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.”bornagain77
November 15, 2009
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bornagain77:
Of course our resident Darwinian experts could, instead of offering the standard Darwinian fairy tales, tell us exactly, step by step, protein by protein, gene by gene, in a bottom up natural manner, how this multi-tiered system of complexity of the Bats sonar arose via purely naturalistic Darwinian processes.
But you are able to describe how the bat's sonar was designed, correct? How did the designer do it? With this evidence, you could put the whole matter to rest.mikev6
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Of course our resident Darwinian experts could, instead of offering the standard Darwinian fairy tales, tell us exactly, step by step, protein by protein, gene by gene, in a bottom up natural manner, how this multi-tiered system of complexity of the Bats sonar arose via purely naturalistic Darwinian processes. A concise explanation complete with gene knockout experiments and recovery of lost function experiments should suffice. If that is too much for our experts, though I am sure they think they have it all figured out, maybe they could just enlighten us on how ATP synthase arose: Evolution vs ATP Synthase - Molecular Machine - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE3QJMI-ljc Or maybe the flagellum: Bacterial Flagellum - A Sheer Wonder Of Intelligent Design - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNi0YXYadg0 Michael Behe on Falsifying Intelligent Design - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8jXXJN4o_A Shoot I would even settle for a detailed account of how the "simple" virus arose: Virus - Assembly Of A Nano-Machine - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObxgbaWwT_w Maybe I am being too hard on our resident experts of Darwin, maybe I should just ask for a detailed account of how a single protein molecule arose by natural processes: Signature in the Cell - Book Review amino acids have to congregate in a definite specified sequence in order to make something that “works.” First of all they have to form a “peptide” bond and this seems to only happen about half the time in experiments. Thus, the probability of building a chain of 150 amino acids containing only peptide links is about one chance in 10 to the 45th power. In addition, another requirement for living things is that the amino acids must be the “left-handed” version. But in “abiotic amino-acid production” the right- and left-handed versions are equally created. Thus, to have only left-handed, only peptide bonds between amino acids in a chain of 150 would be about one chance in 10 to the 90th. Moreover, in order to create a functioning protein the “amino acids, like letters in a meaningful sentence, must link up in functionally specified sequential arrangements.” It turns out that the probability for this is about one in 10 to the 74th. Thus, the probability of one functional protein of 150 amino acids forming by random chance is (1 in) 10 to the 164th. http://www.spectrummagazine.org/reviews/book_reviews/2009/10/06/signature_cell Without enzyme, biological reaction essential to life takes 2.3 billion years: UNC study In 1995, Wolfenden reported that without a particular enzyme, a biological transformation he deemed “absolutely essential” in creating the building blocks of DNA and RNA would take 78 million years. “Now we’ve found a reaction that – again, in the absence of an enzyme – is almost 30 times slower than that,” Wolfenden said. “Its half-life – the time it takes for half the substance to be consumed – is 2.3 billion years, about half the age of the Earth. Enzymes can make that reaction happen in milliseconds.”bornagain77
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Point 3 is also curious because it seems to be arguing that the CSI of B is less than the CSI of N because B is less efficient than N. Is this a new definition of CSI that identifies it with efficiency rather than improbability?Mark Frank
November 15, 2009
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Mr Niwrad, Several of your points are open to dispute. The most fundamental is 1 - the definition of CSI as resulting only from intelligence. Point 3 is true or not on a case by case basis. If point 1 is not agreed, neither will point 4 be agreed. The Darwinist has hardly been argued into a corner. The entire field of genetic algorithms has been founded on this biomemetic idea as well. Why? because we wanted to imitate something that works! ;)Nakashima
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Matters of principle do exist that scientists never will succeed in such task of artificial creation of a true intelligent living being. Yes they will succeed to construct a robot simulating a human, but this robot will be neither really intelligent nor living. And less than less it will be a real “being” either.
We do not know that yet and we never will unless we try.
The story herein is the strange phenomenon that happens when bionic and biological systems are put on the same table and compared.... For example, before the sonar of a submarine they say it is sophisticated engineering; before the sonar of a bat they say it is natural selection. This odd double standard always struck me.
If we put the sonar set from a submarine on a table alongside the echolocation organs of a bat, do you not think that most observers would assume that the sonar set was the product of human design and engineering while the bat's organs were the result of biological processes? They may both be based on the same operating principles but they look and perform very differently.
The bat’s echometer has more accuracy, more efficiency, less power consumption and less size than any artificial sonar constructed by engineers. What … technological jewel!
Yes, without a doubt it is. But if our science is correct, evolution has had millions of years to perfect the bat's echolocation system while human scientists and engineers have been working on sonar for less than a hundred.
The above reasoning logically proves that the evolutionist double standard is a very antinomy. In all logic antinomies there is at least a premise that is untrue. I am sure the UD readers will have no difficulty to discover that the false premise is #4, indeed the Darwinian main hypothesis (all species arose by unintelligent natural processes).
Logic is a tool, like a computer, and you will no doubt be familiar with the saying in computer science of "garbage in, garbage out" (GIGO) meaning that if you enter incorrect data then you are likely to get incorrect results. The same is true for logic, For example, we could construct the following argument: *Premise 1: All black things are cats. *Premise 2: My dog is black. *Conclusion: My dog is a cat. The argument follows a valid logical form, the conclusion follows from the premises, but the conclusion is only true if the premises are true. Your argument fails if we reject the premise that CSI is only the product of an intelligent agent, deny that CSI has a coherent definition and argue that, more generally, information is a property of the models we construct to represent biological systems but not necessarily a property of the systems themselves.
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Makes sense!glennj
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Hello, I'm new here. First of all, apologies for my flawed English. And now I need your patience with my question: Is it legitimate to compare a technical device with living beings who can procreate?Kontinental
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