After 100 years and 100 million needless graves, Dinesh D’Souza on the C21 “revival” of “Socialism”

F/N: I/l/o the above on the corrupt and murderous show trial of Milada Horáková, contemplate what Wikipedia seems to have done with Gen Michael Flynn: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/08/10/wikipedia-editors-censor-evidence-exonerating-michael-flynn/ Now, connect the dots to the broader connected pattern. Think about what sort of society we would have, were such to prevail. KF kairosfocus

F/N: For those who need it, let's document the pattern of targets for the Red Guards, again using W/pedia's admissions against interest: >>Attacks upon the "Four Olds" Main article: Four Olds In August 1966, the 11th Plenum of the CPC Central Committee had ratified the 'Sixteen Articles', a document that stated the aims of the Cultural Revolution [--> notice, official recognition thus critical mass backing] and the role students would be asked to play in the movement. After the 18 August rally, the Cultural Revolution Group directed the Red Guards to attack the 'Four Olds' of Chinese society (i.e., old customs, old culture, old habits, and old ideas). [--> sounds familiar to the current pattern of targets?] For the rest of the year, Red Guards marched across China in a campaign to eradicate the 'Four Olds'. Old books and art were destroyed, museums were ransacked, and streets were renamed with new revolutionary names, adorned with pictures and the sayings of Mao.[12] Many famous temples, shrines, and other heritage sites in Beijing were attacked.[13] The Cemetery of Confucius was attacked in November 1966 by a team of Red Guards from Beijing Normal University, led by Tan Houlan.[14][15] The corpse of the 76th-generation Duke Yansheng was removed from its grave and hung naked from a tree in front of the palace during the desecration of the cemetery.[16] Attacks on other cultural and historic sites occurred between 1966 and 1967. One of the greater damages was to the Ming Dynasty Tomb of the Wanli Emperor in which his and the empress' corpses, along with a variety of artifacts from the tomb, were destroyed by student members of the Red Guard. Between the assaults on Wan Li and Confucius' tombs alone, more than 6,618 historic Chinese artifacts were destroyed in the desire to achieve the goals of the Cultural Revolution.[17] Individual property was also targeted by Red Guard members if it was considered to represent one of the Four Olds. Commonly, religious texts and figures would be confiscated and burned. In other instances, items of historic importance would be left in place, but defaced, with examples such as Qin Dynasty scrolls having their writings partially removed, and stone and wood carvings having the faces and words carved out of them. Re-education came alongside the destruction of previous culture and history, throughout the Cultural Revolution schools were a target of Red Guard groups to teach both the new ideas of the Cultural Revolution; as well as to point out what ideas represented the previous era idealizing the Four Olds. For example, one student, Mo Bo, described a variety of the Red Guards activities taken to teach the next generation what was no longer the norms.[18] This was done according to Bo with wall posters lining the walls of schools pointing out workers who undertook "bourgeois" lifestyles. These actions inspired other students across China to join the Red Guard as well. One of these very people, Rae Yang, described how these actions inspired students. Through authority figures, such as teachers, using their positions as a form of absolute command rather than as educators, gave students a reason to believe Red Guard messages.[19] In Yang's case it is exemplified through a teacher using a poorly phrased statement as an excuse to shame a student to legitimize the teacher's own position. Attacks on culture quickly descended into attacks on people. Ignoring guidelines in the 'Sixteen Articles' which stipulated that persuasion rather than force were to be used to bring about the Cultural Revolution, officials in positions of authority and perceived 'bourgeois elements' were denounced and suffered physical and psychological attacks.[12] On August 22, 1966, a central directive was issued to stop police intervention in Red Guard activities.[20] [--> stand down orders against policing in the face of favoured riots and assaults] Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled "counter-revolutionaries." [--> Oh, storm troopers, gestapo . . . ] Mao's praise for rebellion effectively endorsed the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[21] Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[22] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was "no big deal" if Red Guards were beating "bad people" to death.[23] [--> where riots go] The police relayed Xie's remarks to the Red Guards and they acted accordingly.[23] In the course of about two weeks, the violence left some 100 teachers, school officials, and educated cadres dead in Beijing's western district alone. The number injured was "too large to be calculated."[22] The most gruesome aspects of the campaign included numerous incidents of torture, murder, and public humiliation. Many people who were targets of 'struggle' could no longer bear the stress and committed suicide. In August and September 1966, there were 1,772 people murdered in Beijing alone. In Shanghai there were 704 suicides and 534 deaths related to the Cultural Revolution in September. In Wuhan there were 62 suicides and 32 murders during the same period.[24] Intellectuals were to suffer the brunt of these attacks. Many were ousted from official posts such as university teaching, and allocated manual tasks such as "sweeping courtyards, building walls and cleaning toilets from 7am to 5pm" which would encourage them to dwell on past "mistakes."[25] [--> attainting, shaming, cancelling] An official report in October 1966 stated that the Red Guards had already arrested 22,000 'counterrevolutionaries'.[26] The Red Guards were also tasked with rooting out 'capitalist roaders' (those with supposed 'right-wing' views) in positions of authority. [--> notice the demonisation of the "right" in a country where Communists dominated and had ruled for nearly 20 years] This search was to extend to the very highest echelons of the CPC, with many top party officials, such as Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping, and Peng Dehuai, being attacked both verbally and physically by the Red Guards.[27] Liu Shaoqi was especially targeted, as he had taken Mao's seat as State Chairman (Chinese President) following the Great Leap Forward. Although Mao stepped down from his post as a sign of accepting responsibility, he was angered that a capitalist roader like Liu could take the reins of communist China. [--> the why behind the push, recapturing power] >> KF kairosfocus

MMT, the obvious answer is they saw a cat out of bag, whoopsie moment . . . exposing what is for later too early. That reminds me of the student in a guild of students meeting in 1986 who blurted out the plan to get then wave the bloody shirt to trigger revolution. This was in the context of my using points of order to stop the crazier moments of the meeting. A Commie [yes, literal card carrying] prof in the meeting -- how was never explained -- literally boxed him on the ear and dragged him out of the meeting by the same ear. Later, I literally walked around with a copy of Roberts Rules of Order, joining my Bible. Signs of the times. KF kairosfocus

Too bad it wasn't a bigger fire, then. ET

ET

Those same moms accused of anti-blackness?

Yup. Mac McTavish

Those same moms accused of anti-blackness? Too funny... ET

I find it interesting that the people who put out the fire were the “ Moms in Support of BLM”. Mac McTavish

Members of the MSM are telling us (uncritically parroting BLM’s talking points) that there is systemic racism in urban PD’s across the U.S. But where exactly is this systemic racism? I’m asking because I don’t see it. But what do I know? I only know what I know and most of that comes from T.V. shows. For example, I’m a big fan of true crime documentaries. One of these is A&E’s “The First 48,” which embeds camera crews with real life homicide detectives investigating actual crimes in several cities across the U.S.: Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans, Mobile Al., Tulsa Ok even Minneapolis. (BTW there are no Hollywood actor reenactments. The investigators, witnesses and suspects etc. are all the real deal. However, sometimes the witnesses’ faces are blurred out along with the crime scene carnage.) I haven’t watched all 422 episodes (the show has been in production since June of 2004) but I probably seen well over 100. I don’t recall seeing anything like “systemic racism.” In fact, I don’t recall even seeing a hint of racism. What I do recall seeing are integrated PD’s with black detectives often taking the lead in an investigation… a true blue brotherhood that crossed racial lines… real compassion for the victim and a no nonsense toughness when it came to dealing with criminals. john_a_designer

Jerry, De Babylon Bee, betta dan de ole Glimmer,* de Beeb and de Manhattan birdcage liner(s), much less various money sinkhole Cable talking heads talking point distribution vehicles. When satire is more on target than straight news, you know we are in big trouble. If things get much worse, we will all be mainlining Q and de man in de armoured car wid a bullhorn over in Austin TX. KF *PS: Literary allusion to the formerly respectable newspaper of record for my homeland. kairosfocus

Down With Fascism!' Cries Protester Burning Bibles

It’s a parody but the new paper of record/irony usually hits home. https://babylonbee.com/news/down-with-nazis-cries-protester-burning-bibles jerry

"Mobs burst into the monastery, cathedral, parish church, castle, or palace, dragged the manuscripts out of the armoires where they had been stored for centuries, piled them in a mound in a public place, and lit the patrimony of the nation on fire." It may sound similar to the direction the mobs are taking the US if they are not stopped. It was written about the French Revolution by Thomas Lecaque and comes from a series entitled Age of Revolutions. He goes on to write. "the estimate is that during the French Revolution, more than FOUR MILLION VOLUMES were burnt from suppressed monasteries, of which 25,000 were medieval manuscripts." https://ageofrevolutions.com/2019/04/29/archives-lost-the-french-revolution-and-the-destruction-of-medieval-french-manuscripts/ 4,000,000 million pieces of history that can never be recovered. When they burn Bible, it is never just the Bibles that are lost. BobRyan

Sev, Das Capital or the Little Red books are not scriptures, so they are not an apt comparison. That you try to make such a comparison itself speaks volumes. The Quran, Torah and Tibetan scriptures are and that specific comparison WAS made, to MMT. Such said, book burnings, lawless Red Guard statue topplings (especially of liberating figures, figures of sacrificial heroism and founders/framers), church burnings, attacks on courts of law, police stations and vehicles etc are all signs of just that, lawlessness on the way to tyrannical arbitrariness on the part of the mob, its backers or those whose only claim to power is ruthlessness. Such, is exactly how Mrs Milada Horakova and others were able to be cruelly judicially murdered on trumped up charges and faked evidence with an imposed hoax of treason; complete with scripted confessions extorted through torture. Mrs Milada Horakova, doubtless, made her case even more hopeless by daring to break script and speak truth to the nation and world during her trial. Something, that is in itself all too uncomfortably close to the mark on current agit prop, street theatre, media amplification and lawfare. Let us have the common sense to recognise that in any reasonably functional modern democratic government, rioting, looting, arson, etc cannot be justified for much the same reason the Town Clerk of Ephesus dismissed lawless, riotous assembly c 57 AD: there are many proper alternatives for protest, petition and seeking redress. Where, too, once rioting and other lawless conduct begins, allowing rioters to use protests as cover is enabling behaviour. So, let's bring it to a sharp point: lawless mob behaviour including book burnings (i.e. hate speech by action . . . Lex Rex was once ordered to be publicly burned by the Edinburgh hangman) is lawless and counter to the general welfare. KF PS: I cannot overlook, given the wicked slander I had to add to the OP and correct by link and counter-illustration showing the anti-Christian character of Nazism, that "White Christian Nationalists" is now tantamount to false accusation of Nazism. I suggest, in the name of common decency, that you cease from such unwarranted and even wicked comparisons and suggestions. kairosfocus

Sev at 107. Let me say this in words of one syllable so maybe you will understand: Mob burn book is bad. Barry Arrington

Would you have been as outraged if white Christian nationalists had burned copies of Mein Kampf or Das Kapital or Mao's Little Red Book? Seversky

Mac McTavish

Frankly, as long as the bibles are legally obtained I would rather see them burn bibles, or any other legally obtained objects (religious books, copies of the constitution, the flag, police manuals…) than damaging public property.

So if you had been at the Nuremberg rallies in the 30s you would have been OK with the pyres of burning books just so long as the Nazis had obtained the texts through lawful means? Idiot. When confronted with appalling behavior, the proper response is to denounce it, not downplay it by practically congratulating the barbarians for not doing something worse.. Maybe you should write that down. Barry Arrington

The Portland mob burns books because they want ignorance to lead the way. I listened to an interview with a few of them and if they got beyond 3rd grade it would be nothing short of a miracle. ET

MMT, I am sure that if, say, it had been an incident of burning of copies of the Quran or Torah (part of the Bible), you would have immediately seen the fatal flaw of hate speech acted out in this incident. Parallels to Nazis burning books from 1933 on and Red Guards burning Tibetan scriptures c 1966 made in the linked thread are all too apt. May God grant you the grace of penitence. On the import for this thread, the incident shows that the true target is our civilisation and particularly the key cultural buttresses that support sustainable democratic freedom with good order. The upshot of this, were the Red Guards to succeed, would be the reduction of our civilisation under the sort of domineering, ruthless power brokers who judicially murdered Milada Horakova and others on a slate of false accusations and concocted, lying evidence. KF kairosfocus

F/N: I have updated the OP to address an attempt in the same thread to equate "Conservative" Christianity and Nazism. kairosfocus

KF

F/N: Report that protesters in Portland, Oregon are burning Bibles:

I don’t know the rationale behind this but it could be symbolic of the fact that most police are required to swear an oath under God to uphold the constitution. Frankly, as long as the bibles are legally obtained I would rather see them burn bibles, or any other legally obtained objects (religious books, copies of the constitution, the flag, police manuals...) than damaging public property. Mac McTavish

PS: A very interesting exchange in that thread: >>Replying to @stillgray I have a really hard time believing these are people on the left- we know many white supremacy groups have infiltrated Portland and like making the local protests look bad- I don't know ANYONE who would think burning a Bible is a good thing to do. It's not Kyla Mills @mrs_kyla_mills · 14h I believe u when u say u have a hard time believing the left is doing this. Let this be a defining moment. Research. Don’t be afraid of resources u would normally avoid. And when u discover that truth, ask yourself what else u believe needs to be vetted. U deserve to know. >> kairosfocus

PPPS: This in-thread comment speaks inadvertent volumes: >>Gyra (Hype EX) @Gyra_Solune · 18h we don't worship marx dude. [--> cultural marxism, there is no denial of the connexion] we don't worship anyone or anything. [--> boasting of atheism, and in context hostility to God or anything drawing attention to God, cf here on in context for a 101 response] there are deep flaws in the bible. [--> ignoramuses denouncing what they do not understand or respect] there are deep flaws in marx's writings. [--> attempted equivalency in a twisted "even-handedness, here showing the neo-marxist context] they are both written by flawed humans. [--> direct denial of the possibility of Divine inspiration, consequential on the assumption of atheism] but the bible holds immense power and authority in america and must be challenged. [--> confession of culture form marxist critical theory and deconstructionist agendas. where, a mark of utter blasphemous disrespect is hate speech by action not mere "challenging." In short, these are rabidly anti-Christian, yet another red flag.]>> KF kairosfocus

F/N: Report that protesters in Portland, Oregon are burning Bibles: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1289512762733785088?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Etweet >>Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland. 0:08 4.3M views From Shelldrayk 6:46 AM · Aug 1, 2020·Twitter for iPhone 24.1K Retweets and comments 17.5K Likes Ian Miles Cheong @stillgray · Aug 1 Replying to @stillgray I don’t know what burning the Bible has to do with protesting against police brutality. Do not be under the illusion that these protests and riots are anything but an attempt to dismantle all of Western Civilization and upend centuries of tradition and freedom of religion.>> [Video is there, 8 seconds] He is right, this is a demonstration of hostility to lawful order and to our civilisation in the first instance. In the second, even more seriously, it is gross disrespect for God and his Word. More signs of our times and choices (cf. OP). KF PS: Over in Scotland, Catholic Bishops are concerned that a new law is dangerously vague and over time can be used to construe the Christian Bible, gospel, gospel ethics and faith as hate worthy of up to seven years of imprisonment. PPS: Apparently, >>G. K. @ChasingHalos · 3h A preacher was handing them out to witness to the protesters Quote Tweet Charlie Shamp @CharlesShamp · 16h A Pastor that I’m friends with was at the Portland Riots last night as they burned bibles. He sent me this picture of the man that was handing out those bibles and preaching to the protesters.>> In short, this is a demonic reaction to the classic first amendment act of preaching, publishing and distributing the Scriptures. If you don't want, just leave them be. Burning is not just disrespect but the attempt to rob others of the opportunity to access the said scriptures. That speaks volumes on the indoctrinated hate thereby exposed. kairosfocus

What BLM and others who call for social justice have no interest in justice. There is already a lack of equality under the law. Hillary Clinton funneled money through the DNC, rather than going directly to the Russians for opposition research on Donald Trump. Had her campaign contacted the Russians directly, there would have been no law violated. The moment she used the DNC to funnel money to a former British MI6 agent was the moment she crossed the legal line. A clear violation of the law and she will never be charged, just as she wasn't when she mishandled classified documents as SoS. The law does not require any intent to be violated, yet that was the justification used to not press charges. BobRyan

When God is removed from any country, the result is always the same. The French called their experience with it 'The Terror' for a good reason. During the Tet Offensive, the VC were murdering very specific people, including nuns. Any sympathy that had been gained through propaganda was lost as a result of their actions. Lenin opened the door for Stalin, just as Stalin opened the door for Mao. There has never been a positive government that has risen to power based on atheistic principles. BobRyan

Seversky: National socialism was socialist, Italian fascists were socialist, Russian communism was communist that spread their totalitarianism to other parts of Europe and were directly involved with the prosecution of those who were prosecuted by the Nazis. Totalitarianism rises in countries with democracy by destroying the foundations of the country in question. They give the appearance of being democratic, like Czechoslovakian communist government calling themselves the democratically elected communist party. When there are no other parties allowed to exist, it is not democracy. BLM wants to destroy democracy in the United States. They do not care about most black lives and most are not black. The majority of BLM are white kids at universities who use it to their advantage. Totalitarianism can rise in any country and the United States came close under Woodrow Wilson. BobRyan

Jerry, do you notice how reliably we see a pattern of worldviews and linked cultural/policy agendas tied to influences of centres of power and dominant, domineering narratives? That is no mere coincidence, it reflects the impact of dominant centres of power and minds governed by ideologies that pretend to have cornered the market on truth, wisdom and right. That means that we have to think in worldviews terms and address linked cultural/policy agendas and domination of said centres of power. So, we see:

1: evolutionary materialistic scientism and its pretence to have cornered the market on knowledge thus credible truth, along with fellow traveller thinking. Where, 2: this self-refuting ideology undermines rational, responsible freedom of mind so logic and mind itself. Linked, we find 3: so-called critical theories rooted in culture form marxism [thus, socialist thought], which imagines itself the centre of gravity of reasonable thinking, and has come to dominate large swathes of the academy, education, media [and social media and censorship], policy analysis and advice, commentary, social media etc. Where, 4: in fact, for cause, such theories are radically incoherent in themselves, especially manifest through associated deconstructionism and selective hyperskepticism to targetted alternative views derided as totalising metanarratives. This boils down to 5: reducing discourse to power games and agendas, i.e. might and/or manipulation make 'knowledge'/ 'rationality'/ 'truth'/ 'right'/ 'rights'/ 'justice/' 'liberation' etc. This being nihilism, a dangerous absurdity. No wonder, we find, reliably, 6: The patent evidence of design in the heart of cell based life -- complex, coded alphanumeric algorithmic information in D/RNA, which is thus linguistic and goal directed -- is dismissed out of hand as pseudo-scientific. For, 7: when self-refuting ideology dominates and domineers the sciences, inconvenient evidence and reasoning will be strawmannised, branded as irrational and improperly marginalised. Similarly, 8: sound evidence that markets are information systems that -- due to information flow, validity and management challenges -- cannot sustainably be suppressed and replaced by centralised planning . . . despite direct demonstration 30 years ago . . . has been suppressed, marginalised and supplanted by domineering narratives on "extreme right wing" capitalist/ patriarchal/ white "nationalist" [= Nazi] oppression demanding socialistic, statist solutions at national and international levels, leading to 9: a dominant, censoring ideology insistently pushing for marches of folly as policy. Given such, is it any surprise to see that, 10: so soon as a billionaire US President facing a pandemic mentioned as a ray of hope that HCQ+ cocktails offered some promise, many cried havoc and let slip the dogs of agit-prop and lawfare, components of 4th gen war that go with street theatre and the like, with a special emphasis on undermining legitimacy of civilisation and constitutional democratic government.

So, we are dealing with power and ideology, not responsible rationality and policy prudence. Thus, we need to expose and break the bewitchment, knowing that we are dealing with a counter-culture remnant as across the past two generations, the Frankfurt School long march through the institutions has hollowed out and undermined the buttresses of soundness in civilisation and governance alike. Frankly, it is going to take pain and breaking the credibility of the spinmeisters for there to begin to be a waking up from the ideological stupor. With the US as geostrategic centre of gravity of our civilisation, it is unsurprising that that is the pivotal theatre of 4GW operations, and that such will be reflected in one of the most bitter, polarised, dirty election cycles on record. Over the next 6 - 18 months, the strategic decision will be made. As I have said already, I believe the culture form marxists will lose but will do a lot of further damage before they go down. Damage, that will be debilitating in the long term, with bad implications for the whole world. KF kairosfocus

Jerry, yup. 'E be "yardie" too. KF kairosfocus

Kf, Jamaica I believe or another Caribbean nation. Didn’t go to the internet so I am not positive. jerry

Jerry, guess where Orlando Patterson hails from. KF kairosfocus

Seversky, the answer is marxist socialism and a trail of 100 million graves. All that was done above is to put a face to those graves and to expose the method of false accusation and where it points; a name put on the table by BR, I did not know of the case before, though it throws sudden light on other things. This method, BTW, has been all too prevalent these days. KF kairosfocus