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After 100 years and 100 million needless graves, Dinesh D’Souza on the C21 “revival” of “Socialism”

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Thirty years ago, “Socialism” collapsed in utter disgrace. What lies behind the seeming resurgence in C21? (Apart from Alinsky style “community organisers” beavering away, Frankfurt School “Critical theory” and linked “Deconstructionism,” all tied to the smear that those who seriously challenge Marxist notions and linked policy agendas are crypto-fascists at best?)

Here is a Prager U video discussion with Ms Candace Owen:

(Here’s hoping it does not get mysteriously deplatformed.)

I again point to a framework for understanding political dynamics:

U/d b for clarity, nb Nil

. . . thus, a re-thinking on political spectra:

With a warning on Red Guards:

Let me add (July 31), given the comment by BR on a victim of a Stalinist show trial, a telegram from Albert Einstein on the behalf of the judicially murdered Czech politician, lawyer and patriot, Milada Horáková (née Králová, 25 December 1901 – 27 June 1950), pleading fruitlessly for her life after a Stalinist show trial:


Let me further add, from how Wikipedia is forced to admit the truth:

Milada Horakova of Czechoslovakia, face of a falsely accused,heartlessly and cruelly judicially murdered martyr

Milada Horáková (née Králová, 25 December 1901 – 27 June 1950) was a Czech politician and a member of underground resistance movement during World War II. She was a victim of judicial murder committed by the communist party on fabricated charges of conspiracy and treason.[2] Many prominent figures in the West, including Albert Einstein and Winston Churchill, petitioned for her life.

She was executed at Prague’s Pankrác Prison using a primitive variant of execution by hanging. She died after being strangled for more than 13 minutes.[3][4] Her remains were never found.[4]

The verdict of her trial was annulled in 1968, and she was fully rehabilitated in the 1990s and posthumously received the Order of Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk (1st Class) and Order of the White Double Cross (1st Class).[5][6]

For shame!

U/D, Aug 2: Here is a reaction to a Twitter discussion of a Bible burning incident in front of the Court House in Portland, Oregon [as is discussed below]:

In reply, let us note first that already, the Church in Lafayette Park, across from the White House was targetted for arson and statues of Christian saints have also been targetted, this is not isolated. This comment in the same discussion, sadly, has a point about evading responsibility:

To correct the slander that Christians are in effect Nazis, let us next throw a spotlight on the Anti-Christ blasphemy of Nazism, seen in this Nazi poster that echoes and blasphemously twists Jesus’ baptism and the descent of the Spirit in the form of a dove of peace, not a demonic bomber-bird as the political messiah leads an army of the deluded . . . while carrying a banner based on what, visually, is also a twisted, broken cross (never overlook the suggestions- by- symbol of the wicked):

(The truth is, it is easily shown that Nazism and Fascism were of the same Left that has been identifiable for over 200 years. Similarly, that Hitler was anti-Christ, not Christian. Note here, the theses of the 1934 Barmen Declaration. Yes, in the long history of Christianity-influenced civilisation there have been too many shameful moments, but Nazism is not one of them and it is utterly wicked, slanderous hate speech to project Nazism as the defining essence of “Conservative” Christianity. That this is so commonly done almost as a matter of course shows the horrible rot at work in our civilisation.)

We need to seriously reconsider where we are taking our civilisation:

Trying to recover from having fallen over a cliff is very hard to do. END

120 Replies to “After 100 years and 100 million needless graves, Dinesh D’Souza on the C21 “revival” of “Socialism”

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    kairosfocus says:

    After 100 years and 100 million needless graves, Dinesh D’Souza on the C21 “revival” of “Socialism”

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    Retired Physicist says:

    Convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza is a joke.

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    kairosfocus says:

    RP, a by now predictable sneering ad hominem (using a politicised prosecution to dismiss a substantial case). There is a serious policy and ideology issue on the table, with 100 million ghosts watching. Now, kindly explain how “socialism” is again fashionable, after rightly collapsing in disgrace and shame 30 years ago, with a big clue that the resurgence is being fronted by people too young to have direct knowledge of the culmination of the cold war, de facto WW3. What happened with the academy, education systems, education in history and civics and in the media over the past generation, why? KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    RP, after your “good German” accusations in another thread, you need to make an apology for going inexcusably over the line. KF

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    polistra says:

    Let’s look at the five countries that RESISTED the “virus” genocide.

    Sweden, Belarus, Turkmenistan, Japan, Korea.

    Sweden is unquestionably socialist. Belarus and Turkmenistan are Soviet “time capsules”, retaining most of the Soviet system. Japan and Korea are outside the usual categories, but definitely strong governments with lots of welfare and security.

    The places with the worst genocide are Libertarian, ruled by bankers and Bezos.

    Socialism is better for ordinary people, and this year’s genocide is the ultimate QED.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Polistra, you need to re-examine your statistics and the wider context. First, we do not get reliable statistics until an epidemic is over (only good enough to manage based on broad trends and related models). Next, China has clearly lied, wholesale, utterly warping global statistics and misleading policy-makers in the crucial, early phase of the crisis. In addition, the US is a continent scale country, with heavy dependence on rapid, nation-wide transport networks. This means that once a highly contagious pandemic broke out, it would be very hard to contain. Further, the lockdown implies lack of productivity, so potential to go into enormously destructive depression. That implied a dismal tradeoff of death and destruction. That of course will feed the pouncing media and opportunists of every stripe. We need to severely rebalance, learn some hard lessons on our failure to think straight and prepare better for the next time. For, more pandemics are coming. As just one instance, why wasn’t there a definitive investigation of masks long since, given what the Asians clearly think. KF

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    bornagain77 says:

    Retired Physicist, instead of addressing any of the meat on the table that Kf presented, chose instead to issue an ad hominem attack against Dinesh D’Souza,

    Convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza is a joke.

    That RP would resort to an Ad Hominem attack is sad since, number one, Dinesh D’Souza was unfairly targeted for prosecution by the Obama administration,,,

    Dinesh D’Souza – Why Trump Pardoned Me

    And number two, Ad Hominem is the go to method for atheists to try to ‘win’ debates with Intelligent Design proponents.

    That is to say, instead of Darwinian atheists ever presenting any real time scientific evidence substantiating their theory, and thus scientifically refuting Intelligent Design, more often than not, Darwinian atheists instead resort to personal attacks, i.e. to Ad Hominem.

    “Some I.D.-haters have shown themselves willing to use any argument—fair or not, true or not, ad hominem or not—to keep this dangerous idea locked in a box forever. They remind us of the extent to which Darwinism is no longer just a scientific theory but the basis of a worldview”
    – GIVING UP DARWIN: A fond farewell to a brilliant and beautiful theory – By David Gelernter – May 1, 2019 –
    – David Gelernter is professor of computer science at Yale University, chief scientist at Mirror Worlds Technologies, and member of the National Council of the Arts.

    In fact, in academia Darwinists often go far beyond mere Ad Hominem. If a teacher, or a researcher, starts to question Darwinian orthodoxy and refuses to back down, Darwinists, (much like the Democrats did with D’Souza), instead of allowing open and honest debate of Darwin’s theory, will instead do their damndest to destroy that person’s career in academia.

    Discrimination (by Darwinists) is a pervasive reality in the scientific (and education) world. It’s also a hidden reality.
    Scott Minnich
    Richard Sternberg
    Günter Bechly
    Eric Hedin
    Don McDonald
    David Coppedge
    Caroline Crocker
    Bryan Leonard
    Martin Gaskell
    Dean Kenyon
    Roger DeHart
    Granville Sewell
    Here are many more examples of discrimination against people who dare question Darwinism

    Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (full movie)?

    Slaughter of Dissidents – Book
    Volume 1 of a trilogy, the disturbing premise of this book documents widespread discrimination by Darwin loyalists against Darwin skeptics in academia and within the scientific community. Multiple case studies expose the tactics used to destroy the careers of Darwin skeptics, denying them earned degrees and awards, tenure, and other career benefits offered to non-skeptics. The book exposes how freedom of speech and freedom of expression are widely promoted as not applicable to Darwin doubters, and reveals the depth and extent of hostility and bigotry exhibited towards those who would dare to question Darwinism. The book also shows how even the slightest hint of sympathy for Darwin Doubters often results in a vigorous and rabid response from those who believe such sympathies represent an attack on science itself.,,,?”If folks liked Ben Stein’s movie “Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed,” they will be blown away by “Slaughter of the Dissidents.”
    – Russ Miller?

    The Human Element in Science: Douglas Axe on The Eric Metaxas Show
    Eric Metaxas interviews Douglas Axe on The Eric Metaxas show. Axe,,, shares how he lost his research position in Cambridge over the evolution controversy.

    No other Theory in the history of science has ever been held to be above scrutiny as Darwin’s theory currently is. In fact, science can be said to progress only by allowing intense scrutiny of its existing theories. For example, Einstein would have never come up with General Relativity if had not been allowed to openly question Newton’s theory. Yet, Darwin’s theory is the sole exception to the intense scrutiny that other theories in science are constantly subjected to.

    As one UD blogger once quipped during the Dover trial, “Darwin’s theory is the only scientific theory in the history of science that needs the law to protect it”.

    Thus, Retired Physicist may, in his mind, think that he has ‘won’ the debate with Kf merely by smearing D’Souza as ‘a joke’, but for ID advocates, such a shallow tactic by RP is old hat and is instead a sure sign that he has nothing else of any real substance to resort to. If he did, he would have honestly debated the issue(s) with KF instead of trying to destroy the reputation of a person he disagrees with before any real debate has even begun.

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    kairosfocus says:

    BA77, the context is telling, enabling the resurgence of marxism, responsible for 100 million needless deaths. Where, it is currently being pushed by red guard tactics and rioting, which cannot be justified in any reasonably functional democracy. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Let me add on the basic econ & policy failure of socialism. By the 1920’s von Mises identified that markets are enormously complex, subtly interwoven information systems capturing signals on opportunities foregone in making choices in the face of scarcity. Scarcity implies prioritisation/rationing and price points reflecting performance/affordability balances. The opportunity cost of X is X’ the next best use of an item or service foregone. The pattern of such is informational. Accordingly, all economies are planned, where degree of centralisation is crucial: there is so much, so much subtle information that no central body can adequately solve the allocation over competing uses. This is why distributed planning by dispersed households, firms, individuals, investors etc will always outperform central planning, once there is reasonable lawfulness. Hence, the strong correlation between enduring prosperity, innovation, growth, freedom of enterprise, effective but sharply limited government [the lawful, oligarchic state will do, not just constitutional democracy] and rule of law. Domineering oligarchies and autocracies can loot prosperity, but in the end they wreck it. Socialist systems stifle innovation and frustrate freedom of enterprise. The delusion of technocratic omniscience driving central planning will predictably fail, through breakdown of information to sustain the system. That is a key part of what happened 30 years ago. KF

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    ET says:

    Cowardly loser retired physicist is a joke.

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    Mac McTavish says:

    Socialism, or more accurately, democratic-socialism, is still alive and functioning quite well in many countries. Applying the Marxist label to all policies that are socialist in nature is just a fear-mongering agit-prop tactic. Many countries with numerous socialist policies have higher life expectancy, lower infant mortality, higher literacy rates and higher happiness indices (whatever that means) than the US.

    Even the uproar against the “defund the police” movement is blown way out of proportion. Except in extreme cases, nobody is talking about getting rid of the police, rather it is about taking some of the things that police are currently being used for and giving the responsibility to those better suited to dealing with them. Personally, I don’t know how this would work, but given the level of dissatisfaction with the police by a large segment of society I think it is a discussion worth having.

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    ET says:

    And another person who doesn’t understand what “defund” means. Why are liberals so ignorant of the words they use?

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, just to start with, I know that phrase all too well, it was the propaganda label for what was done to destroy my homeland, so don’t even mention it in my presence. Insofar as it is democratic it is not socialism of consequence and insofar as it is socialism, it will not, cannot work for much the reasons von Mises identified already 100 years and most of the 100 million graves ago. To give just one example, the right to innocent reputation and that to honestly acquired property are basic rights recognised by any functioning lawful state (much less a democracy), so the notion that capitalist/ investor / entrepreneurial property is theft . . . theft of working class property by labour . . . is blood libel, blood libel that cost millions their lives. Nor does the state own us or our children, that is slavery by another name. If you had bothered to look at the relevant references, you will see that I am not willy nilly plastering with the label, I am recognising the specific things BLM and Antifa are calling for or are aiming for. When I see labels like class war and aimed for dictatorship of the proletariat, those are all too familiar technical terms for so called scientific socialism. Anyone enabling or excusing socialism at this stage needs to be told, sit down. 100 million graves are enough. Period. KF

    PS: As for defund/abolish lawful policing, sorry, that is misanthropic and anti civlisational. That simply confirms what is wrong.

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    Querius says:

    Two of my favorite quotes about socialism came out of Eastern Europe . . .

    “Capitalism is man dominating man. In contrast, Socialism is the exact opposite.”

    “Socialism is the longest and hardest road from Capitalism . . . back to Capitalism.”

    Personally, I like to make a distinction between “capitalism” and “free enterprise.” In my view, capitalism is simply a method of finance, and is often threatened by free enterprise, which it often fights using unethical means.

    My favorite recent cartoon features a massive pile of skulls and other human bones. One of the skulls in the pile says “But that wasn’t true socialism.” Another skull in the pile replies with, “Oh, shut up!” (cleaned up version)

    Retired Physicist’s comments are particularly ironic considering that physics is seriously tainted with the likes of James Watt who helped enable the enslavement of the general population to the Industrial Revolution, which was also implicit in brutal colonialism and exploitation of resources, massive pollution due to the burning of coal, and harsh mining conditions, including strip mining!

    See, I can play, too. 😉


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    David P says:

    UD seems to disagree with shutting down businesses and requiring masks to slow the spread of disease, yet all they can do is point out the unrelated horrific murder of 100 million people? Do better. The mental gymnastics to get from “wear masks” to our government will slaughter “100 million people” is too much.
    UD blamed marxism for 100 million deaths the other day, now blames socalism for the same 100 million deaths in this one. You can’t have it both ways.
    Marxism is marxism. Socialism is socialism. This site should be able to understand the difference between the two and realize the real culprit is communism.
    But nobody likes communism, except perhaps Trump.
    If you object to democratic socalism by all means air your criticism at democratic socalism.
    ‘It seems all UD’s criticism amount to is calling democratic socalism, socalism in a cheap tuxedo.

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    TimR says:

    NZ is a social democracy. The state provides free healthcare for all, free education, housing for those that need it, infrastructure such as roads and power lines etc. Currently, many people are surviving on a wage subsidy paid to every citizen who requires it by the state while our economy picks up again. We are a very happy and prosperous country in many ways. I don’t see the problem with sociallism.

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    kairosfocus says:

    TimR, NZ is a democracy and social welfare state as are all significant modern democracies. That is not at all socialism as noted. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    DavidP, you confuse several things. UD has taken no position as such on masks, though individuals have said things. I have pointed out that masks will exert van der Waals type forces which are quite sticky so are likely to have some effect. I have pointed to the admitted deceit of US medical leadership on such, which is severely discrediting. From personal experience and medical conditions, I know such masks can be quite debilitating and that this affects the wisdom or otherwise of use. But all of that is irrelevant, you are just providing a rhetorical distraction and any handy strawman will do. As to 100 million graves, I don’t know if you are old enough to recall that the second S in USSR means SOCIALIST, or that you would know the Marxist succession of phases to know that it reached to Socialism, communism (the utopian end point) never arising; Communist regimes were and are one variety of Socialist regimes, even as the NSDAP in Germany was another; yes, they really meant the S. Where, Marx and co dominated Socialism from C19 on, the current varieties being promoted being culture-form, playing out using critical theories, deconstructionism, community organisers and updated Red Guards with iPhones playing at media ambush. And the 100 million are Rummel’s figures more or less, China and the USSR being the main centres of mass murder. But Castro seems to have added his thousands too, as did a certain Mr Guevarra. I repeat, socialism is economically bankrupt and its history utterly discredits it. That so many have latterly been induced to imagine it a viable or even attractive alternative speaks saddening volumes about the state of our intellectual culture. Serious democratic reformation anchored on sound governance and ethics, yes, bringing back failed, bloodily destructive ideologies from the ash heap of history, no. And any major party playing with such deserves to lose all credibility. Especially if it begins to sponsor Red Guards. KF

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    Mac McTavish says:

    KF, the socialism you talk about is authoritarianism. There are plenty of examples of democracies that adopt many socialist policies and do quite well. NZ, as already mentioned, The UK, Canada, the Scandinavian countries, etc. It is quite possible to adopt socialist policies without being authoritarian.

    The protests currently happening in the US, the vast majority of which are peaceful, are about decades of systemic mistreatment of blacks by the police. You could argue that these acts are caused by a very small minority of police, which is probably true. But the proliferation of cell phone videos has proven what black people have known for decades. They are treated differently by police than white people.

    And sending in tactical units that have not had training in mass demonstrations and riots to deal with mass demonstrations and riots has just made matters worse. A problem that even the acting director of homeland security acknowledges. It also doesn’t help that they are dressed in battle camouflage. Rather than standard police colours.

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, spin all you want, there are 100 years of history at a million graves per year that tell a very different story from the fashionable, air brushed, perfumed narratives. I lived through a slice of that and I will never back down, for cause. All you are telling me is we have an indoctrinated, manipulated generation that has been desensitised to the meaning of red guards rioting on the streets. Somebody really smart set that up. Scroll up, look at those middle aged men forced into a painful, publicly humiliating pose at a red guards rally. Ask yourself why they could not step off those children’s classroom chairs. Then understand what the extension of that to today implies. KF

    PS: converting red guard riots into peaceful protests is a sign of what is going on.

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    Mac McTavish says:

    KF, again, I am afraid that we will just have to agree to disagree about what the root cause of the things we are currently seeing on the streets.

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    kairosfocus says:

    PPS: At the court house Notice how this fits with the above earlier clips

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, have you lived through a communist insurgency triggered civil war and its agit prop triggered confusion and fog of deception? Do you know what KGB/GRU and DGI-backed agitators operate like? From experience? Were you there when the Russians hired a conference facility and issued a public apology a decade later? Do you know anyone murdered because of front groups? Have you seen a nation struggle for decades thereafter, unable to pull itself up from the foot of the cliff? That is my perspective and it is why I am going to be as unyielding as my name. KF

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    Mac McTavish says:


    That is my perspective and it is why I am going to be as unyielding as my name.

    I sympathize with your experiences, but respectfully suggest that they do not necessarily provide you with an infallible insight into what is happening in the US. And I might even go as far as to suggest that experiences like you have been through might result in a biased interpretation of what is going on.

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    Seversky says:

    Kairosfocus @ 23

    MMT, have you lived through a communist insurgency triggered civil war and its agit prop triggered confusion and fog of deception?

    I know I haven’t. Have you?

    Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia and Communist China were socialist in name only. In reality, those states, whatever the initial ideals, had fallen into the hands of ruthless and brutal gangsters.

    And such thugs are everywhere, in every nation, regardless of the political system. The problem is not socialism or capitalism, like racism the problem is in us. Until we accept that it’s not other people or groups or political parties or amorphous “isms” but our nature as human beings that we need to face then these struggles will continue.

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    Querius says:


    From my study of history and from several friends who left “socialist” countries, KF’s concerns are well-founded!

    “Compassionate socialism” is the bait. Once one of the revolutionary factions gains dominance in the resulting power vacuum, the authoritarian trap is sprung. The former revolutionaries, now in prison camps, will then have plenty of time to bitterly reflect about how they were used. Those who weren’t executed outright anyway.

    But, there are always some people who still stubbornly refuse the lessons of history. The bait tastes oh soooo good! And when they are arrested by a community committee in their socialist worker’s paradise, they will desperately object that there was some sort of misunderstanding, a mistake! But no, there was no mistake.

    Researchers have found that such people in prison camps actually continued to support and defend their socialist-turned-authoritarian state’s actions and they came to believe that they somehow deserved to be arrested! Amazing, isn’t it?

    Over the years, I’ve had friends from several former Soviet bloc countries and from Communist China. One of these friends had been a Soviet military advisor in North Vietnam. He had some interesting adventures. He also told me that in a communist takeover, I would be among the first ones arrested. When I asked him why, he responded that it would be because I was a quiet intellectual and an independent thinker. In contrast, the noisy outspoken ones could more easily be controlled.

    But I know. That wasn’t true socialism. lol


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    Querius says:


    Wow, I actually agree with you! 😮


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    Eugene says:

    Just because our Globalist overlords are using the same social engineering strategies which have already been used before them by Communists, Bolsheviks, etc, does not mean that they intend on bring on the same Socialist agenda. They are simply attempting to transform the prevailing social order into something else, and they are not very eager to tell us what it is they are transforming it into.
    By looking at it, they are transforming it into neo-feudalism, where the little people will be beholden to the all-mighty State, while the Controllers will own the State (which they already do by and large).

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    BobRyan says:

    Socialism has not collapsed. The misery continues to spread to people throughout the world. Venezuela was the wealthiest country in South America. They are currently going through the longest power outage in the history of the world. Their people continue to starve and the media outlets stopped reporting when it became apparent that socialism was going to fail again.

    Socialism is the pursuit of a utopian dream that will never be realized. People are not perfect and never will be. No matter how many people are slaughtered, you cannot butcher your way to a perfect human.

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    BobRyan says:

    One of the problems is the picking and choosing of bad guys, regardless of the similarities. Everything the Imperial Japanese Army did was also done by the Soviet Army. Japanese officials were charged with war crimes, but not a single Soviet was charged with anything. Stalin and Hitler agreed to split Europe in two and both invaded Poland at the same time. The wording was any country who invaded Poland, not just Germany. The Soviets were guilty of committing war crimes in Europe even before they raped and murdered their way to Berlin.

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT & Seversky, I have spoken from life experience of seeing the ruin of my native land. They have allowed me to understand 4GW, subversive strategies and how they piggyback on genuine grievances to lead on to attempted seizure of power. Where, one of the keys to agit prop and modern military operations alike is the same psychology of distraction and disorientation that lies behind stage magic. You may wish to look up the OODA loop. In that context, in the 4GW context, many well meaning people will normally be in that disoriented, distracted state. They will miss signs and trends of peril and a cliff ahead, as I illustrated in the OP. In this context, one lodestar is that the US is a reasonably functional democracy; there is NEVER an excuse to riot, loot, burn, destroy, etc. As the town clerk of Ephesus pointed out 2,000 years ago, there are too many responsible alternatives. So, those who carry out, excuse or enable such are automatically in grave error and wrong. A second clue is to see the sudden fashionability of the most murderous ideology in history, an ideology that publicly and decisively failed 30 years ago. A third clue is to see targetting of pivotal cultural institutions by Red Guard — yes, direct parallel as can readily be documented — mobs, here including not only demand to abolish [not reform, not merely renegotiate budget priorities, DEFUND, abolish] the lawful police, erase responsible court verdicts and sentences across the board on a basis of skin colour, trying to rewrite and discredit the breakthrough of modern democracy 1776 etc. The family, sexual identity and education are of course also targeted and much more. Such anti-civilisational folly is patently ruinous. The extent of want of discernment or consultation with sound history speaks volumes and tells us all that the geostrategic centre of gravity of our civilisation is in existential peril. Where, that imperils the whole world. That is why we have a say too, terrible global consequences loom, and the patent failure of huge swaths of American leadership is itself a terrible warning sign. But then, for years now, too many have scoffed when I warned of coming peril. It is here, and the next 6 – 18 months will be decisive. I suggest, wake up, real fast. KF

    PS: The old, year zero reset, Socialism 1.0 — xns were not “real” socialism but xns+1 will be wonderful trick is old, and utterly discredited. I have already showed why the policies universally fail. The OP also shows why modern democracy was a breakthrough and why it needs cultural buttresses to be sustainable. Triggering anarchic chaos — as is going on — predictably triggers a rebound to oligarchic and/or autocratic tyranny. That sad story has played out any number of times since the French Revolution ended up with Napoleon as “rescuer.” Those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat its worst chapters. I think that is effectively Santayana’s version. Marx himself is the one who spoke of repeating as tragedy then as farce.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Eugene, aren’t you from Yugoslavia? Please, give an in a nutshell. They refuse to learn from Jamaica’s folly and utterly needless tragedy (my sainted Dad, as a key policy advisor, warned them in writing with Fourier Transform based econometric analysis and in council, as others did, I remember a leaked cabinet submission — whistleblowing — being read on radio with my Dad and me listening . . . he expected that warning to fail; it did). I have added a warning vid from Yugoslavia to the OP. And of course what you call neo-feudalism is precisely what socialist states become, oligarchies with the ordinary man under the power of ruthless overlords — the nomenklatura. All, on a promise of utopia that can never be delivered. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    BR, in 1989 – 91, Socialism collapsed. It utterly discredited itself; indeed at one point the former USSR banned the Communist party. Chaos led to the strong man, fmr KGB light Col, Putin. It is only places like China, where a regime is too entrenched [and is clever enough to use controlled market freedom with Party domination], or North Korea, or Cuba, or Venezuela that regimes continue. In utter folly, some are trying to bring it back, using the one proved expertise of that ideology, subversion and power grabs. Which is doubtless why it is being fronted. I am confident it will fail, but the problem is the cost/ damage, especially if the US goes over a cliff. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    PS: Notice, no objector has touched on Mr D’Souza’s warning in any substantial fashion. If they could, they would have. KF

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    It’s interesting to me that, as you say, so many so-called “conservatives” in politics and public life succumb to the fear of COVID-19 and the mobs. Conservatives usually believe in life after death, so what exactly are they afraid of? Perhaps they fear being cancelled, or feeling like they’ve lost credibility by being maligned by people on twitter and the media? Why live a life in fear of such things when there is so much more beyond this short period of time?

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    David P says: should change its tagline from serving the intelligent design community to serving Donald Trump. Around the 12 minute mark he says “…a good was to think about it is..”. When indoctrinating people you are not supposed to say that part out loud. Later he says facts don’t dispute a narrative and it is up to us to push a counter narrative. Textbook indoctrination.
    Step one in the video, don’t let people define their own philosophy. Define it for them otherwise their ideas might actually make sense.
    Step two, be sure to associate negative labels with them. Pseudoscience doesn’t work in politics so apply labels like slavery or communist.
    Step three, bedazzle them with nonsense. BLM isn’t about eliminating racism, it is about making more racism.
    Step four, suppress commonsense ideas and supplant your own. They said every 4 year old might see Robin Hood as a hero but he is actually the WORST villain. (Disney had Hades as a villain).

    If this site is going to push right wing propoganda, they should own the good as well as the bad. Trump sent federal troops to snatch people off the street and violate their due process. The left is protesting police violence while the right actually commit acts of tyranny. But this video would have you believe social distancing in stores is tyranny. No more than obeying traffic laws.

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    kairosfocus says:

    DavidP, really. That is projection. Perhaps, it has not fully registered: Red Guards are roaming the streets, more cultured voices are promoting an ideology with 100 million graves in its wake. Culture form marxism through the above and through critical theories, deconstructionism, agit prop, subversion, media amplification, lawfare and corruption of major cultural institutions seeks to shatter and remake civilisation as they will, regardless of our concerns. That is enough to take a serious stand in and of itself. Especially, for this contributor as one whose homeland was wrecked by the same ideology, right before my eyes. As for protesting, that is a lie: rioting is what our “lyin’ eyes” tell us. Rioting serving a Red Guards agenda.Remember, once you block streets and mob people going about ordinary business of life etc you are no more protesting but rioting. Similarly, trying to erase foundational elements of civilisation and to abolish lawful policing — what defund clearly means and as is outright sometimes said — is not about objecting to abuses, it is about radical overthrow. Talk of class warfare and dictatorship of the proletariat, in that context, tell us some big things, and we have a right to object to trying to reimpose the most destructive ideology ever. Besides, as the Town Clerk of Ephesus pointed out in Ac 19, 2000 years ago, if genuine grievances and reforms were the point, there are many effective and non-violent means. We are in advanced democracies, that doubly holds, there is no excuse for rioting, arson, looting, attacking police and ordinary people, seeking to cancel the credibility of the most liberating and genuinely progressive civilisation in history. To replace it with the radicalism that in 100 years cost 100 millions their lives through reversion to oligarchies and autocratic tyrannies. The means and the lies tell us the true ends, sorry, we refuse to go there. KF

    PS: You seem to desire blending in issues on CV19. This stream of threads is not for that, but I can summarise. Once CV 19 escaped containment, large death tolls were inevitable. We tried a novel approach, global lockdown. That implied a dismal tradeoff as that is artificially induced recession, with danger of depression, with the huge damage and loss including life, that that threatens. So, there is need to take a reasonable balance and perhaps we can justify initial stages but not prolongation. In context, it is always dangerous to cede power to any elite including a technocratic one. In this case, two things were fatal. First, when protests broke the lockdown and turned into riots and more, we did not see the same objection . . . even while there is pressure to lock down everything else. Likewise, there is cumulatively decisive evidence of a cost effective treatment that somehow stirred the ire of the technocrats, which is being smeared on every hand; it is reasonable to conclude that at least tens of thousands of needless casualties have come from that phalanx of opposition and attempted discredit. Then, that is compounded by the flip flop on value of masks, tied to admission of lying. That utterly discredits the technocrats. In that context, for cause, many will conclude that a more traditional response to pandemic is in order and are fighting to re open economy and society. Some, as Mr D’Souza, will draw the point that the situation may well be in part taken opportunistically, never let a crisis go to waste style . . . a standard Marxist technique. Here, desensitisation to stringent government controls on life, e.g. church lockdowns at the same time rioters are enabled to roam freely. I think some rethinking is in order.

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: From an epidemiologist, as background.

    >>The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It | Opinion
    Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health
    On 7/23/20 at 7:00 AM EDT

    As professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, I have authored over 300 peer-reviewed publications and currently hold senior positions on the editorial boards of several leading journals. I am usually accustomed to advocating for positions within the mainstream of medicine, so have been flummoxed to find that, in the midst of a crisis, I am fighting for a treatment that the data fully support but which, for reasons having nothing to do with a correct understanding of the science, has been pushed to the sidelines. As a result, tens of thousands of patients with COVID-19 are dying unnecessarily. Fortunately, the situation can be reversed easily and quickly.

    I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

    On May 27, I published an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology (AJE) entitled, “Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk COVID-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis.” That article, published in the world’s leading epidemiology journal, analyzed five studies, demonstrating clear-cut and significant benefits to treated patients, plus other very large studies that showed the medication safety.

    Physicians who have been using these medications in the face of widespread skepticism have been truly heroic. They have done what the science shows is best for their patients, often at great personal risk. I myself know of two doctors who have saved the lives of hundreds of patients with these medications, but are now fighting state medical boards to save their licenses and reputations. The cases against them are completely without scientific merit.

    Since publication of my May 27 article, seven more studies have demonstrated similar benefit. In a lengthy follow-up letter, also published by AJE, I discuss these seven studies and renew my call for the immediate early use of hydroxychloroquine in high-risk patients. These seven studies include: an additional 400 high-risk patients treated by Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, with zero deaths; four studies totaling almost 500 high-risk patients treated in nursing homes and clinics across the U.S., with no deaths; a controlled trial of more than 700 high-risk patients in Brazil, with significantly reduced risk of hospitalization and two deaths among 334 patients treated with hydroxychloroquine; and another study of 398 matched patients in France, also with significantly reduced hospitalization risk. Since my letter was published, even more doctors have reported to me their completely successful use . . . .

    Beyond these studies of individual patients, we have seen what happens in large populations when these drugs are used. These have been “natural experiments.” In the northern Brazil state of Pará, COVID-19 deaths were increasing exponentially. On April 6, the public hospital network purchased 75,000 doses of azithromycin and 90,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine. Over the next few weeks, authorities began distributing these medications to infected individuals. Even though new cases continued to occur, on May 22 the death rate started to plummet and is now about one-eighth what it was at the peak.

    A reverse natural experiment happened in Switzerland. On May 27, the Swiss national government banned outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. Around June 10, COVID-19 deaths increased four-fold and remained elevated. On June 11, the Swiss government revoked the ban, and on June 23 the death rate reverted to what it had been beforehand. People who die from COVID-19 live about three to five weeks from the start of symptoms, which makes the evidence of a causal relation in these experiments strong. Both episodes suggest that a combination of hydroxychloroquine and its companion medications reduces mortality and should be immediately adopted as the new standard of care in high-risk patients .>>

    What is being drowned out.

    And, again:

    >>Why has hydroxychloroquine been disregarded?

    First, as all know, the medication has become highly politicized. For many, it is viewed as a marker of political identity, on both sides of the political spectrum. Nobody needs me to remind them that this is not how medicine should proceed. We must judge this medication strictly on the science. When doctors graduate from medical school, they formally promise to make the health and life of the patient their first consideration, without biases of race, religion, nationality, social standing—or political affiliation. Lives must come first.

    Second, the drug has not been used properly in many studies. Hydroxychloroquine has shown major success when used early in high-risk people but, as one would expect for an antiviral, much less success when used late in the disease course. Even so, it has demonstrated significant benefit in large hospital studies in Michigan and New York City when started within the first 24 to 48 hours after admission.

    In fact, as inexpensive, oral and widely available medications, and a nutritional supplement, the combination of hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin or doxycycline, and zinc are well-suited for early treatment in the outpatient setting. The combination should be prescribed in high-risk patients immediately upon clinical suspicion of COVID-19 disease, without waiting for results of testing. Delays in waiting before starting the medications can reduce their efficacy.

    Third, concerns have been raised by the FDA and others about risks of cardiac arrhythmia, especially when hydroxychloroquine is given in combination with azithromycin. The FDA based its comments on data in its FDA Adverse Event Reporting System. This reporting system captured up to a thousand cases of arrhythmias attributed to hydroxychloroquine use. In fact, the number is likely higher than that, since the reporting system, which requires physicians or patients to initiate contact with the FDA, appreciably undercounts drug side effects.

    But what the FDA did not announce is that these adverse events were generated from tens of millions of patient uses of hydroxychloroquine for long periods of time, often for the chronic treatment of lupus or rheumatoid arthritis. Even if the true rates of arrhythmia are ten-fold higher than those reported, the harms would be minuscule compared to the mortality occurring right now in inadequately treated high-risk COVID-19 patients. This fact is proven by an Oxford University study of more than 320,000 older patients taking both hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, who had arrhythmia excess death rates of less than 9/100,000 users, as I discuss in my May 27 paper cited above. A new paper in the American Journal of Medicine by established cardiologists around the world fully agrees with this.

    In the future, I believe this misbegotten episode regarding hydroxychloroquine will be studied by sociologists of medicine as a classic example of how extra-scientific factors overrode clear-cut medical evidence. But for now, reality demands a clear, scientific eye on the evidence and where it points . . . >>

    I think there are a few questions to be asked and answered.

    The May 27, 2020 paper:

    >> Am J Epidemiol

    . 2020 May 27;kwaa093.
    doi: 10.1093/aje/kwaa093. Online ahead of print.
    Early Outpatient Treatment of Symptomatic, High-Risk Covid-19 Patients that Should be Ramped-Up Immediately as Key to the Pandemic Crisis
    Harvey A Risch 1

    PMID: 32458969 DOI: 10.1093/aje/kwaa093


    More than 1.6 million Americans have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 and GT 10 times that number carry antibodies to it. High-risk patients presenting with progressing symptomatic disease have only hospitalization treatment with its high mortality. An outpatient treatment that prevents hospitalization is desperately needed. Two candidate medications have been widely discussed: remdesivir, and hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin. Remdesivir has shown mild effectiveness in hospitalized inpatients, but no trials have been registered in outpatients. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been widely misrepresented in both clinical reports and public media, and outpatient trials results are not expected until September. Early outpatient illness is very different than later hospitalized florid disease and the treatments differ. Evidence about use of hydroxychloroquine alone, or of hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin in inpatients, is irrelevant concerning efficacy of the pair in early high-risk outpatient disease. Five studies, including two controlled clinical trials, have demonstrated significant major outpatient treatment efficacy. Hydroxychloroquine+azithromycin has been used as standard-of-care in more than 300,000 older adults with multicomorbidities, with estimated proportion diagnosed with cardiac arrhythmias attributable to the medications 47/100,000 users, of which estimated mortality is LT 20%, 9/100,000 users, compared to the 10,000 Americans now dying each week. These medications need to be widely available and promoted immediately for physicians to prescribe. >>

    It is time to face responsibility for needless politicisation and polarisation of discussion over a manifestly effective treatment and needless deaths by at least tens of thousands. There will be a day of reckoning over such culpable irresponsibility.


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    kairosfocus says:

    WJM, good to see you, trust pandemic has been well-weathered. I think, guarding life is a virtue, and it was reasonable to hear the technocrats. But beyond a certain point things began to unravel. KF

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    The only effect the so-called “pandemic” has had on my life is putting a few extra bucks into my bank account and, earlier this month when I went to the clinic for my yearly, they made me wear a mask. Well, I do find the hysteria amusing, but then there’s always something amusing going on. I’m blessed to live in the most interesting of times.

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    kairosfocus says:

    WJM, okay, looks like you bet the right way on some investments. Gold hit a peak yesterday, I haven’t seen my Jeweller, for whose business, Gold is a raw material. That’s cool. KF

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    Querius says:

    Doctor: Hydroxychloroquine actually shows significant benefit when administered as part of a treatment early enough in a Covid-19 infection.

    Social Justice Warrior: Aha! You’re just a racist Trump supporter aren’t you! I want a different doctor!

    Doctor: But you just tested positive and I think . . .

    Social Justice Warrior: I won’t even consider a White Supremacist drug meant to control the masses! Don’t you have any socially acceptable progressive drugs?

    Doctor: What if we call it “Marxychloroquine?”

    Social Justice Warrior: Yeah, finally. I knew there would be a better treatment!



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    Eugene says:

    To KF@32
    > Eugene, aren’t you from Yugoslavia?

    I am from the former USSR 🙂 We had to study Marxism-Leninism in school there… and then in the evening I had to tune my shortwave radio to BBC to get a different perspective on what was going on. Here and now all it takes is just a few mouse clicks to get educated, yet very few people bother to – I guess life’s generally been too good for too long. I am afraid this is now about to change.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Eugene, even better, could you give us a few pointers. KF

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    Eugene says:

    KF @45,

    I have mostly given up on attempts to educate or “enlighten” anyone, even close friends. All the information is “out there”, it is not even censored that much, yet it still requires a will to find, read and process it and it requires both IQ and open mind to accept the level of cynicism being used in “Realpolitik”. My observation is that most people simply cannot accept that their betters can possibly be this evil or conspiring.

    For those looking, there are plenty of published papers and revealing quotes from our friends at “The Trilateral Commission” and other similar institutions, and then there is always the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, which if one ignores the repeated references to one specific race there, are literally an instruction manual for subverting existing social order. It is out in the open for at least 100 years now, there is no requirement for being of a specific race to use the technique, and it has been written by a human mind, hence this is what a human mind is capable of devising. Quoting H. Ford, “they constitute an education in the way the masses are turned about like sheep by influences which they do not understand”. …But one has to first jump through the Wikipedia “fabricated antisemitic text” designation when looking for it, and a lot of people will just stop right there.
    …Anyway, this is a long and blackpilled subject, The people will most likely be led where the Controllers want them to, it is just the way it has always been. Assuming the majority of people can be successfully convinced that they will be better off as part of an “Open Society”, being guided by the new age Philosopher Kings, then let them. As I understand, we have always had people who thought they had to be the Philosopher Kings. This must be just another round of it.

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    kairosfocus says:


    Winds of a tropical storm woke me up, and I am stirred to speak to the issue of battling “narratives.”

    “Narrative,” in the relevant sense, is a “simple” word for worldview, cultural/policy agenda and thus implies also ideology. There is also a hint in it of the post-/ultra- modernist sneer at “totalising metanarratives.” Let’s start here, with several clips on the table, with of course Wikipedia testifying against interest in pole position:

    W/pedia: A metanarrative (also meta-narrative and grand narrative; French: métarécit) in critical theory and particularly in postmodernism is a narrative about narratives of historical meaning, experience, or knowledge, which offers a society legitimation through the anticipated completion of a (as yet unrealized) master idea . . .

    Literariness dot org: The postmodern as “the incredulity towards metanarratives”

    By Nasrullah Mambrol on April 3, 2016 • ( 6 )

    Jean Francois Lyotard, in The Postmodern Condition famously described Postmodernism as the “incredulity towards metanarratives”. Postmodernism attacks specific notions of monolithic universals and encourages fractured, fluid and multiple perspectives. Lyotard observes that modernism relies on metanarratives or grand recits — the grand overarching stories that a. culture tells itself, hiding several contradictions and inconsistencies inherent in the social order. Postmodernism criticises and disbelieves in metanarratives and focuses on mini/local narratives or petit recits. Lyotard also emphasised on postmodernism’s view of language as incapable of representing reality, owing to the endless chain of signifiers without a signified . . .

    NWE, a counter to W/pedia: Metanarrative or grand narrative or mater narrative is a term developed by Jean-François Lyotard to mean a theory that tries to give a totalizing, comprehensive account to various historical events, experiences, and social, cultural phenomena based upon the appeal to universal truth or universal values.

    In this context, the narrative is a story that functions to legitimize power, authority, and social customs. A grand narrative or metanarrative is one that claims to explain various events in history, gives meaning by connecting disperse events and phenomena by appealing to some kind of universal knowledge or schema. The term grand narratives can be applied to a wide range of thoughts which includes Marxism, religious doctrines, belief in progress, universal reason, and others.

    The concept was criticized by Jean-François Lyotard in his work, The Postmodern Condition: A Report on Knowledge (1979). In this text, Lyotard refers to what he describes as the postmodern condition, which he characterized as increasing skepticism toward the totalizing nature of “metanarratives” or “grand narratives.”

    According to John Stephens it “is a global or totalizing cultural narrative schema which orders and explains knowledge and experience.” The prefix meta means “beyond” and is here used to mean “about,” and a narrative is a story. Therefore, a metanarrative is a story about a story, encompassing and explaining other ‘little stories’ within totalizing a schema.

    Immediately, W/pedia gives the game away, this is an expression of critical theories, with obvious further influences from deconstructionism. That, by now, is only to be expected. The other two sources expose the inherent incoherence of the post-/ultra- modernist selective hyperskepticism being espoused. It cannot be a prime truth that “language [is] incapable of representing reality, ” whether by dint of “the endless chain of signifiers without a signified” or on any other grounds, as there can then be no prime truth, no accurate description of reality. This is self-defeating core incoherence and self-falsification.

    A long time ago now, I saw a discussion of the post-/ultra- modernist’s error through the lens of the celebrated tale of the six blind men of Hindustan encountering the elephant and each projecting to a grand story his partial encounter. This is effective in relativising our partial perspectives, but, subtly, Narrator implies omniscience in relativising and dismissing the partial views. Just so, self-referentiality is a key challenge for the post-/ultra-modernist who would dismiss the views of others.

    In that context, we then see that we are fundamentally debating worldviews and cultural/policy agendas thus ideologies they support. Where, worldviews are precisely attempts to comprehend the world as a whole, thus involving stories and truth claims about narrower stories and truth claims. They involve warrant and as neither infinite regress nor question begging can stand, where also worldviews bristle with difficulties, we are forced to have finitely remote first plausibles that frame our views. Some of these will be self evident first truths and duties, but no cluster of such will ever be enough to fully frame a worldview. Instead, they help us to test key beliefs, e.g. through the issue of self-referential incoherence we just saw in action.

    The result is, we are forced to use comparative difficulties analysis, pivoting in key part on factual adequacy, coherence and balanced explanatory power, neither an ad hoc patchwork nor simplistic.

    Let me add, in this context, some self evident, universal first truths and duties — so, universal truths of moral character — that I suspect will be a bit hard for Post-/Ultra- modernists with rheir radically relativist metanarratives to object to without implicitly relying on what they would oppose, with an onward challenge on the reality root:

    We can readily identify at least seven inescapable first duties of reason. Inescapable, as they are so antecedent to reasoning that even the objector implicitly appeals to them; i.e. they are self-evident. Duties, to truth, to right reason, to prudence, to sound conscience, to neighbour, so also to fairness and justice etc. Such built in law is not invented by parliaments or courts, nor can these principles and duties be abolished by such. (Cf. Cicero in De Legibus, c. 50 BC.) Indeed, it is on this framework that we can set out to soundly understand and duly balance rights, freedoms and duties; which is justice. The legitimate main task of government, then, is to uphold and defend the civil peace of justice through sound community order reflecting the built in, intelligible law of our nature. Where, as my right implies your duty a true right is a binding moral claim to be respected in life, liberty, honestly aquired property, innocent reputation etc. To so justly claim a right, one must therefore demonstrably be in the right. Thus, too, we may compose sound civil law informed by that built-in law of our responsibly, rationally free morally governed nature; from such, we may identify what is unsound or false thus to be reformed or replaced even though enacted under the colour and solemn ceremonies of law. These duties, also, are a framework for understanding and articulating the corpus of built-in law of our morally governed nature, antecedent to civil laws and manifesting our roots in the Supreme Law-giver, the inherently good, utterly wise and just creator-God.

    We could go on much more, and I do that at 101 level here.

    However, for present purposes, that is enough.

    It should now be readily apparent that D’Souza was speaking in a compressed, highly simplified “for public consumption” fashion when he spoke of facts and narratives. I/L/O the need for comparative difficulties analysis, he is quite right that a challenge regarding points of fact is grossly inadequate to challenge a culturally dominant worldview and its ideological programme. One must have an alternative and context for comparative difficulties analysis. Which, in this context, requires considerable familiarity with recent, modern and deep history of our civilisation. Precisely, what is being violently attacked by the Red Guards on the streets. Which is itself a sign that those who back them know that their agenda cannot stand up to comparative difficulties analysis informed by sound history.

    Here, the history of Socialism, its economic and policy failures and its trail of 100 million graves becomes a crucial consideration.

    Doubtless, you are familiar with the hyperskeptical dismissal that history is victory propaganda. Again, an ill-founded, self-defeating historical claim (as this is an historical truth claim itself). A counter to that comes from the pain of the Russians: dwell on the past, you lose an eye; forget the past and you lose both your eyes.

    Instead, sound history was bought with blood and tears, those who ignore, dismiss or resist it doom themselves to pay the same coin over and over and over again.

    That raises the issue of soundness and the priority of painful, costly truth.

    History, honest, balanced, sound history is a challenge indeed, but it is one we must take up. Where, good journalism is a first, rough draft of history (and contemporary newspaper or equivalent reports are often primary, eyewitness or eyewitness summary source documents).

    So, yes, one cannot counter a newly dominant radical narrative by merely objecting to particular points of fact, one needs a more comprehensive comparative difficulties assessment and a linked alternative that is demonstrably sounder and better balanced. That should have been obvious after a century of bloodily failed ideologies and fashionable but fallacious dominant scientific theories. The latter manifestly including origins theories riddled with a priori evolutionary materialistic scientism.

    By that, I mean to make a direct connexion to the core focus of this blog. The design inference is manifestly sound once valid signs of design are present, but notoriously this has been selectively hyperskeptically dismissed and marginalised, often using utterly indefensibly immoral tactics. That is because it challenges a core cluster of claims in one of those culturally dominant narratives, this one dressed up in the holy lab coat.

    There is need for a counter narrative. Here, the discoveries of cybernetics, communications and controls, with computing, dating back to Babbage. In context, by 1948, John von Neumann was putting forward his kinematic self replicator model for a self replicating automaton, predicting its key elements on an essentially mathematical analysis. Then, starting five years later, 1953 (and for what, 20 years following) we saw a string of Nobel Prize winning discoveries on molecular biology that cumulatively fulfilled von Neumann’s predictions. The same, whose computer architecture has been dominant since the 1940’s.

    As a result, those who are willing can recognise that in the living cell, based on molecular nanotech, we have alphanumeric code, algorithms and associated execution machinery. Thus, language and goal directed processes with fine tuned, mutually adapted devices using highly sophisticated technologies we can only drool over. The design debate is over, the SETI search is over, we have direct design and sophisticated messages right there in the cells of our bodies. What, 3 billion base pairs worth, with 6 billion bits worth of raw storage capacity.

    All of this, in a cosmos that from just the first most abundant elements, is fine tuned for C-chemistry, aqueous medium, cell based life on terrestrial planets in circumstellar and galactic habitable zones. This points to extra-cosmic design towards life.

    Of course, THIS story is most unwelcome and marginalised. A familiar tale.

    The point is, in a world dominated by deeply fallacious but agenda driven worldviews and cultural/policy agendas, a sounder understanding faces an uphill battle and will find itself under persistent, often willfully deceitful and slanderous attack. Another familiar tale.

    So, coming back to immediate considerations, the L/R narrative with L as centre of gravity of politics, history and policy is fundamentally incoherent and fallacious. In particular, the idea that what objects to the dominant L narrative at a given time is therefore R, is false. That for example means that a sound understanding of Fascism and Nazism will reveal that these are variant form socialistic ideologies from an age where even the most conservative believed in the ultimate triumph of Socialism, which they saw as deplorable and to be delayed as long as possible. I mean here, people like Churchill or C S Lewis. As one clue, Nazi, expanded, is National Socialist German Workers’ Party. And, they meant the S, as can be demonstrated.

    In this context, the slander that objection to radical fundamentally Marxist agendas is fascist, is a fallacy and for many cases a slanderous lie by way of speaking towards hoped for advantage with willful disregard to fairly readily accessible truth. A lie, in disregard to the basic right of innocent reputation and of course honestly acquired property.

    I have already remarked on the way the current pandemic has been mishandled and have noted that the sudden reversal of insistence on lockfown in the face of favoured protesters and rioters even as say churches and businesses faced continued lockdown utterly discredited the narrative. That is why, for cause, the credibility of the technocrats is being sharply challenged. Likewise, the gold standard fallacy and built to fail studies that sought to discredit HCQ+ cocktails in the teeth of adequate evidence of utility is severely discrediting, raising issues of responsibility for significant needless loss of life. I add that in particular the Tuskegee syphilis studies and scandals have sharp lessons regarding tendencies to turn control studies based on deliberately mislabelled sugar pills or the like into ethically and epistemologically challenged gold standard fallacies in the face of fast moving deadly pandemic.

    Much more can be said but this is enough to start with.


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    kairosfocus says:

    Eugene, that is interesting, including on a more sophisticated view of the notoriously antisemitic protocols. My own view is, a strategic competitor, much less an enemy, will have an agenda. Where, in simple terms, from the beginning, the Devil was a con artist, conspirator, liar, thief and murderer. So, it is unsurprising to see his disciples engaging in evil, destructive conspiracies. The White Rose martyrs were right, and not just about Hitler. For me, a glance at rapist of Africa, Cecil Rhodes early will was eye-opening, ranging from the scholarship his fortune funded to the diamond cartel headed by De Beers, to the way big international thinktanks and organisations or foundations established through fortunes operate. The rise of so called critical theory speaks, as does re-emergence of iconoclastic Red Guards after a decade of repeated uprisings on a similar template since the so called Arab Spring. KF

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    BobRyan says:

    Socialism and communism always lead to mass suffering whenever it has been tried, which includes the Venezuelans today. The problem with socialism is the belief that the idea has greater merit than the people. National Socialism believed all one needed to be was a good Aryan, which originated in India. The Soviets believed all one needed to be was a good communist and the Chinese a good Chinese communist. Belief does not make for good farmers, as the Cambodians discovered and did what other socialists and communists have done. They committed mass murder, which resulted in a third of the Cambodian population losing their lives. Socialist and communists will never accept that socialism and communism never work. It is always the people who fail the idea or some country(ies) who brought about the failure.

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Let me put some provocative comparative thoughts on the table, surrounding the Arab Spring uprisings and chaos of a decade ago, which continues in some regards to today. Notice, I am specifically NOT issuing a blanket or even particular, limited endorsement, I am asking us to look at possible patterns:

    EXHB A: From Global Research:

    >> . . . According to Bensaada, the MENA Arab Spring revolutions have four unique features in common:

    None were spontaneous – all required careful and lengthy (5+ years) planning, by the State Department, CIA pass through foundations, George Soros, and the pro-Israel lobby.1 [–> this reflects the biases involved, there is no way Israel would desire a high risk of getting radical islamist regimes across the ME, esp in the pivotal case, Egypt. See my next comment]
    All focused exclusively on removing reviled despots without replacing the autocratic power structure that kept them in power. [–> my analysis is that, without generations deep cultural buttresses, stable democracies are impossible, and such buttresses are being undermined in the US and elsewhere. Absent such, the best we can hope for is lawful oligarchy, maybe with some experimental democratic elements]
    No Arab Spring protests made any reference whatsoever to powerful anti-US sentiment over Palestine and Iraq. [–> involvement of radical islamists implies entrenched intent to destroy Israel, cf Gharqad tree Hadith used by Hamas etc]
    All the instigators of Arab Spring uprisings were middle class, well educated youth who mysteriously vanished after 2011.

    Nonviolent Regime Change

    Bensaada begins by introducing non-violent guru Gene Sharp (see The CIA and Nonviolence), his links with the Pentagon and US intelligence, and his role, as director of the Albert Einstein Institution, in the “color” revolutions.2in Eastern Europe and the attempted coup against Hugo Chavez in 2002.))

    The US goal in the Arab Spring revolutions was to replace unpopular despotic dictators while taking care to maintain the autocratic US-friendly infrastructure that had brought them to power. [–> in fact, the US had a radical regime itself that was seeking radical restructuring of the globe] All initially followed the nonviolent precepts Sharp outlines in his 1994 book From Dictatorship to Democracy. In Libya, Syria and Yemen, the US and their allies were clearly prepared to introduce paid mercenaries when their Sharpian “revolutions” failed to produce regime change. [–> really . . .]

    Follow the Money

    Relying mainly on Wikileaks cables and the websites of key CIA pass through foundations (which he reproduces in the appendix), Bensaada methodically lists every State Department conference and workshop the Arab Spring heroes attended, the dollar amounts spent on them by the State Department and key “democracy” promoting foundations3 [–> much of that would be legitimate investment in democratisation], the specific involvement of Google, Facebook, Twitter and Obama’s 2008 Internet campaign team in training Arab Spring cyperactivists in encryption technologies and social media skills, US embassy visits, and direct encounters with Hillary Clinton, Condoleezza Rice, John McCain, Barack Obama and Serbian trainers from CANVAS (the CIA-backed organization that overthrew Slobodan Milosevic in 2000) . . . >>

    Here, we see a more or less plausible model of Web-assisted, mass protest (with violence) driven wave of attempts to overthrow regimes viewed as oligarchic or autocratic and oppressive.

    I find failure to highlight Islamist radicalism significant but then there are various objections to be made.

    The point is, we see a way Red Guards riding on popular resentment, backed by web technologies etc, can cause serious disturbances or regime change. Notice, the context of deep, background preparation extending over the course of years.

    We can safely assume, given the general times, that cultural marxist, critical theory, deconstructionist, Alinsky community organiser elements were and likely are in play. Radical revolutions reliably create autocratic or oligarchic tyrannies and it can be readily inferred that geostrategic aims were to change the people on top, not genuine democracy with cultural buttresses required but absent.

    We must not be naive.

    Where, Mao remains the reference yardstick for using Red Guards.

    EXHB B: A Harvard study on the Egypt case:

    >> The Arab Spring refers to a period of protests beginning on December 18, 2010 in Tunisia, which quickly spread to numerous other Arab nations and resulted in regime change in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, and Yemen, and repression and/or violence in Syria, Bahrain, Sudan, and elsewhere. In Egypt, protests and strikes began on January 25, 2011 (National Police Day) and lasted for 18 days, bringing together various opposition groups representing a wide cross section of Egyptian society including secularists, feminists, Islamists, anti-capitalists, and many others. Notably, while the January 25 protests were initiated by a group of opposition activists, the Egyptian Arab Spring did not have a centralized leadership and no single element of the opposition was in control. [–> a more balanced view but do not take as gospel]

    We Are All Khaled Said

    While it was the death of Muhammad Bouazizi in Tunisia that sparked the Arab Spring in Tunisia, then elsewhere [–> notice, iconic cases that trigger the blood guilt issue], in Egypt another death proved an important symbolic catalyst for revolution. In 2010, a young man named Khaled Said was beaten to death by two police officers after being dragged out of a cybercafé in in Alexandria. [–> notice, police in a state that was oligarchic, not democratic] Photographs of his disfigured body were shared online. Wael Ghoneim, an Egyptian Google Executive living in Dubai—who would go on to become a prominent Arab Spring youth activist—created a Facebook group called “We Are All Khaled Said,” which quickly drew membership in the hundreds of thousands. [–> web amplification, note, plausibility of key narrative does not pivot on substantial truth or fairness, just it appeals to popular feeling and tendencies]

    What seemed to have particular impact was the fact that Said had neither been a political dissident nor an Islamic radical, but rather a young Egyptian Everyman victimized by the police. Said’s remembrance was articulated through the lens of religious martyrdom, which has deep historical resonance among Egyptian Muslims and Christians. The Facebook page and other social media sites became public forums for the remembrance of Said and for discourse around what he died for. These issues became fundamental to the outbreak of protests in the coming year. Though police brutality could account for scores of other deaths in Egypt, it was the role of new media that made this death particularly salient. [–> again, media] Police claimed that Said died by suffocation after attempting to swallow a bag of hashish; however, during the trial it became apparent that Said had been targeted by police for posting a video online accusing the police of colluding with drug dealers. Small-scale, local demonstrations took place protesting Said’s death, but it was on Ghoneim’s Facebook page that the announcement for the January 25 protests—held on January 25, National Police Day—was first publicized.

    Arab Spring Protests

    Chanting “The People Want to Bring Down Regime” (al-shaab yurid isqat al-nizam), a broad spectrum of protestors, from labor and youth activists to feminists and individual members of the Muslim Brotherhood (there without sanction from the organization),sought political change in the wake of decades of corruption, police brutality, media censorship, unemployment, inflation, and other problems. [–> notice the coalition taking to the streets] The protest took various forms, from the occupation of downtown Cairo’s Tahrir Square [–> notice, the mass rape of an American journalist here] , to labor strikes, acts of civil disobedience, clashes with armed forces, and others. Violence between protestors and the police resulted in 846 deaths and several thousand injuries.

    President Hosni Mubarak—in office since 1981—was deposed on February 11, 2011, [–> 4GW overthrow] after which the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) dissolved the Egyptian Parliament, suspended the constitution, and dissolved the nation’s “emergency laws.” Protestor deaths formed the basis of allegations against Mubarak, for which he was sentenced to life in prison in June, 2012, but was released in August 2013 under the post-coup military government. [–> much else, on the Muslim Brotherhood regime is omitted] >>

    Notice here, leverage on police brutality. That’s another clue, and one that calls for a much more sober assessment of cases, generalised claims and perceptions, media narratives [noting obvious propagandisation of esp the so-called mainstream], and just what is implicit in defund/abolish the police etc. Also, we need to ask pointed questions on the lurid portrayals of an unexpected president in the US who obviously does not fit with the deep state’s preferences. We can take it, the deep state of an entrenched establishment is real. They literally took out advertisements in major media, have published op eds and have published books.

    EXB C: Wikipedia, as usual against interest:

    >>The Arab Spring (Arabic: ?????? ???????) was a series of anti-government protests, uprisings, and armed rebellions that spread across much of the Arab world in the early 2010s. It began in response to oppressive regimes and a low standard of living, starting with protests in Tunisia.[1][2] From Tunisia, the protests then spread to five other countries: Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Syria and Bahrain, where either the ruler was deposed (Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, Muammar Gaddafi, Hosni Mubarak, and Ali Abdullah Saleh) or major uprisings and social violence occurred, including riots, civil wars or insurgencies. Sustained street demonstrations took place in Morocco, Iraq, Algeria, Iranian Khuzestan,[citation needed] Lebanon, Jordan, Kuwait, Oman, Sudan, and The United States of America. Minor protests occurred in Djibouti, Mauritania, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and the Moroccan-occupied Western Sahara.[3] A major slogan of the demonstrators in the Arab world is ash-sha?b yur?d isq?? an-ni??m (“the people want to bring down the regime”).[4]

    The importance of external factors versus internal factors to the protests’ spread and success is contested.[5] Social media is one way governments try to inhibit protests. In many countries, governments shut down certain sites or blocked Internet service entirely, especially in the times preceding a major rally.[6] Governments also accused content creators of unrelated crimes or shutting down communication on specific sites or groups, such as Facebook.[7] In the news, social media has been heralded as the driving force behind the swift spread of revolution throughout the world, as new protests appear in response to success stories shared from those taking place in other countries.

    The wave of initial revolutions and protests faded by mid-2012, as many Arab Spring demonstrations met with violent responses from authorities,[8][9][10] as well as from pro-government militias, counter-demonstrators and militaries. These attacks were answered with violence from protesters in some cases.[11][12][13] Large-scale conflicts resulted: the Syrian Civil War;[14][15] the rise of ISIL, insurgency in Iraq and the following civil war;[16] the Egyptian Crisis, coup, and subsequent unrest and insurgency;[17] the Libyan Civil War; and the Yemeni Crisis and following civil war.[18] Regimes that lacked major oil wealth and hereditary succession arrangements were more likely to undergo regime change.[19]

    A power struggle continued after the immediate response to the Arab Spring. While leadership changed and regimes were held accountable, power vacuums opened across the Arab world. Ultimately, it resulted in a contentious battle between a consolidation of power by religious elites and the growing support for democracy in many Muslim-majority states.>>

    If that happened in relatively weak states with populations not likely to be as resistant as say the US hinterlands, what would likely happen if the US spins utterly out of control into high kinetic 4GW?

    We need to open our eyes and minds, asking some pretty pointed questions.


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    Querius says:


    Thank you for your insightful and well-informed posts. A lot of the details you presented on the Arab Spring was new to me. I also appreciated your Russian saying, “Dwell on the past, you lose an eye; forget the past and you lose both your eyes.”

    But just focusing on the general historical patterns, I think it’s valid to pull out some general principles.

    * A prerequisite to controlling a population is to make the majority of its citizens subject to unbridled emotion without having the tools of logic or any understanding of history. You can do this through its institutions: journalism, education at all levels, religion, and politics.

    * Promise the people all the money in the banks and goods in the stores in payment for some aspect of injustice that they have suffered. Promise free food, free healthcare, free housing, etc. You don’t actually have to provide these things, you just have to promise them, blaming shortages on subversive elements and political foes.

    * Never do anything to address legitimate concerns of the population such as police misconduct, high crime, polluted water, massive bureaucracy, impossible immigration, and above all, pervasive corruption. Let the anger build in the population. Corruption is also very useful in controlling various people in positions of power through blackmail. Too many executions disguised as suicides tend to build suspicion, so use these sparingly.

    * After an obligatory genocidal period where the anger and hatred of the people is exhausted (Jews, Armenians, or other minorities make good traditional targets), take complete power and carefully find ways of eliminating the people who got you there. For example, inquisitions to root out latent racism might be an innovative approach. Make sure you take the moral high ground in such inquisitions to exhibit your righteous anger on behalf of the people.

    * Despite all the wonderful stated intentions of peace, prosperity, economic equality, social conformity, remember that nature abhors a vacuum, especially a political vacuum. You have to fill that vacuum with as much state power as possible, brutal, ruthless, and arbitrary. This will intimidate anyone who continues with unsanctioned protests.

    * Once in control, make sure the journalistic institutions publish articles only conveying sweetness and light–how things are so much better now that you’re in charge. Political discourse is no longer relevant and should be quickly extinguished.

    * Demand absolute allegiance from everyone to “The People” (i.e. you and your cronies). Try to suppress any religion on the grounds of mixed loyalty.

    * And finally, keep the population on the edge of starvation and homelessness. This will keep them in line and you and your cronies in power. Resist any twinges of humanitarianism because it will destabilize the natural state of humanity.

    There. That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure I missed some pointers. :-/


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    kairosfocus says:

    Q, there is no need to speculate, the history of radical revolutions since 1789 is clear. Radicals revolutions introduce violence as path to power, delegitimising everyone. This of course creates economic dislocation, which may trigger hostility to those who sell key commodities, especially if they are a readily identifiable minority. Chaos arises due to the unsettled situation, often with infighting and coups. A reign of terror is common. The mob is a factor. A strong man tends to emerge and as a rule external war tends to be involved. The dangers are manifest. More or less this, has been pointed out since Plato’s parable of the ship of state; which, we should know a lot more about. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Wiki, on Ukraine, again, take with due cautions:

    The Ukrainian Revolution of 2014 (also known as the Euromaidan Revolution, or Ukrainian Revolution of Dignity; Ukrainian: ????????? ????????, Revoliutsiia hidnosti) took place in Ukraine in February 2014, when a series of violent events involving protesters, riot police [–> notice], and unknown shooters [–> snipers, often suggested to be a setup by whoever you wish to find key villain, they may have shot at both obvious sides] in the capital, Kiev, culminated in the ousting of the elected Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and the overthrow of the Ukrainian Government.[34] [–> notice, street chaos can lead to revolution]

    Successive Ukrainian governments in the 2000s sought a closer relationship with the European Union (EU).[35][36] The government of Yanukovych had been negotiating an association agreement with the European Union since 2012.[37] Such comprehensive trade agreement with the EU would have impacted Ukraine’s trade agreements with Russia, the latter being Ukraine’s biggest trade partner at the time.[38] Yanukovych believed that the complications could be addressed, and he said that he intended to enter the agreement,[39] but continued to postpone.[40] This was interpreted as an attempt to back out of signing this agreement, and led to a wave of protests which came to be known as the “Euromaidan” movement.[41] Clashes between the protestors and the riot police became violent, and resulted in deaths of nearly 130 people, including 18 police officers.[42] [–> note, chaotic rioting] As the tensions rose, the personal safety for the president became untenable;[43] on 22 February he fled from Kiev to Russia.[41] The protesters proceeded to take control of the government. [–> takeover] On the same day, the parliament declared that Yanukovych was relieved of duty in a 328-to-0 vote.[44][45][46]

    Yanukovych said that this vote was illegal and possibly coerced, and asked Russian Federation for assistance.[47] Russia considered the overthrow of Yanukovych to be an illegal coup, and did not recognize the interim government that was put in place by the protesters.[48] Widespread protests against the revolution occurred in the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, where Yanukovych received strong support in the 2010 presidential election. These protests escalated into 2014 Crimean status referendum, Russian military intervention,[49][50] and the establishment of de facto independent states in Donetsk and Luhansk. [–> untangling this is hard, but a key is where Russians were concentrated and more or less veiled Russian intervention]

    The interim government, led by Arseniy Yatsenyuk, proceeded to sign the EU association agreement. Petro Poroshenko became the president of Ukraine after a landslide victory in the 2014 presidential elections. The new government restored the 2004 amendments to the Ukrainian constitution that were controversially repealed as unconstitutional in 2010,[51] and initiated a large-scale purge of civil servants who were associated with the overthrown regime.[52][53][54] The Law on Regional Languages, which allowed Ukrainian regions with large cultural minorities to use their own languages in their local administration, was repealed. [–> notice, minority issues]

    A December 2016 survey by the Kiev International Institute of Sociology found that 34 percent of respondents in the government-controlled Ukraine regarded the change in power as an “illegal armed coup”, while 56 percent regarded it as a “popular revolution”.[55]

    The accusations of Fascism/Nazism, NATO intervention, Soros, and whatnot make for a murky picture.


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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: On Colour — and that spelling is used — Revolutions, W/pedia against interest:

    Colour Revolution (sometimes called the Coloured Revolution) is a term that was widely[citation needed][clarification needed] used by worldwide media[1] [–> media amplification and framing] to describe various related movements that developed in several countries of the former Soviet Union, People’s Republic of China and the Balkans during the early 2000s. The term has also been applied to a number of revolutions elsewhere, including in the Middle East and the Asia-Pacific region, dating from the 1980s to the 2010s. Some observers (such as Justin Raimondo and Michael Lind) have called the events a revolutionary wave, the origins of which can be traced back to the 1986 People Power Revolution (also known as the Yellow Revolution) in the Philippines.

    [–> at the time, a direct comparison was in Haiti and in Jamaica next door, Marxist agitators in colleges sought to turn protests over a “cess” on students into a national revolution consciously echoing those events. A key was a hoped for wave the bloody shirt confrontation with police, in the end that came to blocking a main artery, tear gassing, a platoon volley of blanks on full auto above student heads and a baton charge with arrests of key targetted student leaders]

    Participants in the colour revolutions have mostly used nonviolent resistance [–> that depends on definition of what constitutes “violence,” “riot” etc, the biases surface here], also called civil resistance[citation needed]. Such methods as demonstrations, strikes and interventions have been intended protest against governments seen as corrupt and/or authoritarian and to advocate democracy and they have also created strong pressure for change. These movements generally adopted a specific colour or flower as their symbol. The colour revolutions are notable for the important role of non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and particularly student activists in organising creative non-violent resistance[citation needed]. [–> there is a perspective that in many cases they were/are engineered]

    Such movements have had a measure of success as for example in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia’s Bulldozer Revolution (2000), in Georgia’s Rose Revolution (2003) and in Ukraine’s Orange Revolution (2004). In most but not all cases, massive street protests followed disputed elections or requests for fair elections and led to the resignation or overthrow of leaders considered by their opponents to be authoritarian[citation needed]. [–> in short these can work, with 1978/9 in Iran as a model too] Some events have been called “colour revolutions”, but are different from the above cases in certain basic characteristics. Examples include Lebanon’s Cedar Revolution (2005) and Kuwait’s Blue Revolution (2005).

    Government figures in Russia, such as Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, have claimed that colour revolutions are externally fuelled acts with a clear goal to influence the internal affairs that destabilise the economy,[2] conflict with the law and represent a new form of warfare.[3][4] [–> an aspect of 4th Generation war, and it is not just ooh the Russkies say it] President Vladimir Putin said that Russia must prevent colour revolutions: “We see what tragic consequences the wave of so-called colour revolutions led to. For us this is a lesson and a warning. We should do everything necessary so that nothing similar ever happens in Russia”.[5]

    This lays out issues. An argument out there is that current events in the US are much the same, with the obvious colour choice being black, with yellow too.

    We need to ponder serious questions.


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    Eugene says:

    Btw, here’s a good easy-read summary of current evens by Mr. CJ Hopkins, even with some satirical twist:

    For those who do not like ZeroHedge, here’s the original publication:

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    kairosfocus says:


    He has misread key matters, though the lead does summarise the warped view being promoted. A first clue as to the folly involved is the gross blunder that fascism is a “right wing” phenomenon. I take up where he speaks in his own voice:

    this isn’t just the usual Portlandia silliness. This White Black Nationalist Color Revolution has been in the works for the last four years. Since the moment Trump won the Republican nomination, the global capitalist ruling classes have been fomenting racialized polarization, Putin-Nazi paranoia, and other forms of mass hysteria, in anticipation of the events of this summer. The propaganda has remained consistent. Both the liberal corporate media and the alternative left media have been predicting that Trump is going to go full-Hitler, impose martial law, proclaim himself Führer, and perpetrate some sort of racialized holocaust … for reasons they’ve never quite been able to explain.

    He hasn’t, of course, so the global capitalist ruling classes had no choice but to unleash a [SNIP]storm of civil unrest to goad him into overreacting … which, no surprise, he was stupid enough to do. Ordering the goon squads into the streets might delight his hardcore right-wing base, but it will alienate the majority of “normal” Americans, who aren’t especially fond of goon squads (unless they’re doing their thing in some faraway country). Most importantly, it will motivate all those non-Clinton-voting Obama voters to go out and vote for “Slappy” Joe Biden, or whichever corporate puppet the Democrats have replaced him with by November 3. That seems to be the general strategy

    There simply are no goon squads, though it is very hard to avert that projection in the face of a hostile media looking to wave the bloody shirt. A capital example is how in NY, an arrest of an activist who has been destroying surveillance cameras, surrounded by a ring of obvious bicycle police was perceived and projected as a kidnapping.

    Defund/abolish the police is a reckless policy, one that hands the community over to the mob. That a major party would endorse such — however they may now try to spin it — is fatal. Similarly, the ugly inquisition of an AG that tried (incompetently) to enmesh him in perjury traps, badgered him with complex, loaded accusation laced questions then deliberately, consistently cut him off from answering is a revelation on the lawfare and injudicious mindset at work.

    Connecting the two was refusal to correct rioting. We now know who are at least enabling. That is suggestive as to where to look for backers of the Red Guards. And Foundation money is only a small part of that picture. Where there are Red Guards, there is a lawless Mao who hates the culture and sees that creating a year zero mob based coup opens up doors to unrestrained power..

    And that will be a key part of why the election is likely to be a defeat for the party that has clearly become captive to destructive “progressive” radicalism. It is too late to recover, it will almost certainly go into the wilderness, as it deserves. But that will simply ramp up the chaos, a 4G civil war is in progress.

    As a result the next 6 – 18 months will be decisive, though I expect the Red Guards and their backers to lose. The problem is, even more permanent damage will be done to the geostrategic centre of our civilisation and that cumulative damage is liable to have very bad global consequences.

    Marches of folly have consequences.


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    kairosfocus says:

    Heather MacDonald speaks, with details She is a serious scholar and needs to be heard, whether or not you agree. I gather YT tried a takedown already. KF

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    Querius says:

    Wow, what gut-wrenching and deeply saddening statistics!

    From what we’ve seen, the riots and its crime wave has been destroying black lives. Black lives are only consequential to the press when it serves their ideological message, which seems to be entirely partisan.

    However, missing from Heather MacDonald’s presentation are the sources of the disproportionate level of criminal behavior in young black males (something like 13 times the homicide rate than in the rest of the nation).

    From my experiences, I believe the primary reason for higher crime in young people is absent fathers. Other factors include gross educational malpractice in many cities, constant victim-mentality propaganda, poor media stereotypes, drugs, limited employment opportunities for the poorly educated, and covert racism. Broken families rose dramatically under the well-meaning “Great Society” and “War on Poverty” programs, which have significant culpability.

    Politicians have hypocritically and successfully used black suffering as a means to get power and maintain power for decades. As noted by the NAACP there has been an overwhelming amount of promises contrasting an almost total lack of action for the interests of the community they try to represent.

    There certainly needs to be reform. I believe the areas of reform include education reform, prison reform, immigration reform, farmworker employment reform, much stronger prosecution and penalties for political corruption, journalistic reform, and de facto political censorship in the media, on-campus, and online. And I’ve probably missed a few. None of these reforms occurred in Republican or Democrat dominated administrations. None.

    Sadly, most political and union organizations and their contributors are adamantly opposed to these reforms and work diligently and tirelessly to make sure any potential reforms are given only lip service. In my opinion, our elected representatives have chosen to become polarized to the point of hatefulness and paralysis. And wealthy. This is not what they were elected to do and we should start recalling them.

    So, now we hear the sweet promises of a socialist worker’s paradise–what we’ve all been taught in schools and colleges for decades. And when this once again ends in poverty, hunger, and genocide under a brutal dictatorship, we’ll once again be assured by clueless academics and journalists with the words:

    “But that wasn’t true socialism.”

    Yes, it was.


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    BobRyan says:

    Milada Horakova was an outspoken critic of Hitler before the National Socialists ever stepped foot in Czechoslovakia. She and her husband were arrested and both sent to camps. When the communists took over, her positions remained unchanged and was arrested and tortured for weeks until she signed a confession and was executed in 1950. Her husband managed to escape to Germany and eventually made his way to the United States. It took him 20 years to get his daughter out of Czechoslovakia.

    Holding the same position in regards to the Nazis and communists resulted in arrest. The Nazis initially gave her the death penalty, but got a new trial due to lack of evidence. It was changed to 8 years. The communists held her without any evidence and there were no initial charges brought. She was not an easy woman to break, but eventually everyone breaks. She was forced to sign a confession and had a show trial. Telegrams from all over the world asked for leniency, which was denied.

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    kairosfocus says:


    the truth is, we need a full blooded spiritual reformation, with widespread revivals blazing across the world.

    A major block to that in North America and W Europe, is de-Christianisation (which is often dressed up in a lab coat). Never mind, that there is excellent evidence pointing to the reality of God as root of all worlds and that if soberly examined, the gospel has solid warrant. That is of little avail, in the face of narrative dominance and hostility; people often insist on living out of Rom 1.

    Beyond a certain point, only terrible pain corrects, and there are those who not even pain will correct; it is notorious that history repeats or rhymes because we refuse to learn sound lessons bought with blood and tears. I frankly fear, we may have come to the edge of a civilisational cliff yet again and are dancing heedlessly even as it begins to crumble underfoot.

    And that includes the tragedy of the black male working class youth, from Lagos to London to LA. Black culture is by and large open to the gospel, but our family disintegration (only partly explicable on slavery etc) and educational breakdown have come back to haunt us. My ray of hope is, as we go through the storm, we will look to rays of hope; one of which is, the rise of digital, multimedia technologies that can vastly amplify the rapidity of reach of sound messages, especially sound spiritual and general education.

    But to discern that message and discredit the many siren songs — so far as I can see right now — is going to take shattering pain. For this, my reference is Luke’s answer to Plato’s Ship of State, Ac 27.

    One of the scriptures that haunts me is Eph 4, which describes how sound church leadership helps to build mature churches, with discernment as one result, leading to a gospel ethics and gospel truth shaped counter-culture that becomes the proverbial shining city on a hill in the face of vast darkness around:

    Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes. 15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ . . . .

    17 Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. 19 They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity.

    20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, 22 to put off your old self,6 which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. [ESV]

    A terrible time is obviously upon us, one that will show the difference between the manipulative narratives and voices money can buy and voices of truth, even, voices of truth wearing shackles.

    So, in the end, lies fail as they are ruinous. But, when lies prosper, truth may be in shackles or rags.

    Quite the dilemma and soul-test. Which is exactly what say Ac 17 points to, kairos is a test of our souls and our civilisation is patently at kairos. This is one place where W/pedia is actually helpful:

    Kairos (Ancient Greek: ??????) is an Ancient Greek word meaning the right, critical, or opportune moment.[1] The ancient Greeks had two words for time: chronos (??????) and kairos. The former refers to chronological or sequential time, while the latter signifies a proper or opportune time for action. While chronos is quantitative, kairos has a qualitative, permanent nature.[2] Kairos also means weather in Modern Greek. The plural, ?????? (kairoi (Ancient and Modern Greek)) means the times. Kairos is a term, idea, and practice that has been applied in several fields including classical rhetoric, modern rhetoric, digital media, Christian theology, and science.

    These, are such times as try men’s souls.


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    kairosfocus says:


    the story of Milada Horakova is new to me, one that puts flesh on the voice of one of 100 million ghosts. Here, W/pedia is forced to speak truth, truth in warning:

    Milada Horáková (née Králová, 25 December 1901 – 27 June 1950) was a Czech politician and a member of underground resistance movement during World War II. She was a victim of judicial murder committed by the communist party on fabricated charges of conspiracy and treason.[2] Many prominent figures in the West, including Albert Einstein and Winston Churchill, petitioned for her life.

    She was executed at Prague’s Pankrác Prison using a primitive variant of execution by hanging. She died after being strangled for more than 13 minutes.[3][4] Her remains were never found.[4]

    The verdict of her trial was annulled in 1968, and she was fully rehabilitated in the 1990s and posthumously received the Order of Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk (1st Class) and Order of the White Double Cross (1st Class).[5][6]

    Judicially murdered and deliberately tortured to death as a woman and mother, because demonised men serving a demonic system of oppression riding on the backs of the oppressed under false colours of liberation could not face the truth. Exile could not be permitted, they literally felt they had to choke the voice of truth out of her. And hide the evidence her body would have provided. For shame!

    Let’s clip further, to give the horrific details that hang like a dead albatross around the necks of those who would return us to such a condition:

    Before facing trial, Horáková and her co-defendants were subjected to intensive interrogation by the StB, the Czechoslovak state security organ, using both physical and psychological torture. She was accused of leading a conspiracy to commit treason and espionage at the behest of the United States, Great Britain, France and Yugoslavia. Evidence of the alleged conspiracy included Horáková’s presence at a meeting of political figures from the National Socialist, Social Democrat and People’s parties, in September 1948, held to discuss their response to the new political situation in Czechoslovakia. She was also accused of maintaining contacts with Czechoslovak political figures in exile in the West.[3]

    The trial of Horáková and twelve of her colleagues began on 31 May 1950. It was intended to be a show trial, like those in the Soviet Great Purges of the 1930s. It was supervised by Soviet advisors and accompanied by a public campaign, organised by the Communist authorities, demanding the death penalty for the accused. The State’s prosecutors were led by Dr. Josef Urválek and included Ludmila Brožová-Polednová.[10][11] The trial proceedings were carefully orchestrated with confessions of guilt secured from the accused, though a recording of the event, discovered in 2005, revealed Horáková’s courageous defence of her political ideals. Invoking the values of Czechoslovakia’s democratic presidents, Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk and Edvard Beneš, she declared that “no-one in this country has to be made to die or be imprisoned for their beliefs.”[12]

    Milada Horáková was sentenced to death, along with three co-defendants (Jan Buchal, Old?ich Pecl, and Záviš Kalandra), on 8 June 1950. Many prominent figures in the West, notably Albert Einstein, Winston Churchill and Eleanor Roosevelt, petitioned for her life, but the sentences were confirmed. She was executed by hanging in Prague’s Pankrác Prison on 27 June 1950; at the age of 48.[3] Her reported last words were (in translation): “I have lost this fight but I leave with honour. I love this country, I love this nation, strive for their wellbeing. I depart without rancour towards you. I wish you, I wish you…”[13]

    Following the execution, Horáková’s body was cremated at Strašnice Crematorium, but her ashes were not returned to her family. Their whereabouts are unknown.[14]
    Other defendants
    Telegram from Albert Einstein appealing for clemency for the accused

    Jan Buchal (1913–1950), State Security officer (executed)
    Vojt?ch Dundr (1879–1957), former Secretary of the Czechoslovak Social Democracy (15 years)
    Dr. Ji?í Hejda (1895–1985), former factory owner (life imprisonment)
    Dr. Bed?ich Hosti?ka (1914–1996), Secretary of the Czechoslovak People’s Party (28 years)
    Záviš Kalandra (1902–1950), marxist journalist (executed)
    Antonie Kleinerová (1901–1996), former member of Parliament for the Czechoslovak National Socialist Party (life imprisonment)
    Dr. Ji?í K?ížek (1895–1970), lawyer (22 years)
    Dr. Josef Nestával (1900–1976), administrator (life imprisonment)
    Dr. Old?ich Pecl (1903–1950), former mine owner (executed)
    Professor Dr. Zden?k Peška (1900–1970), university professor (25 years)
    František P?eu?il (1907–1996), publisher (life imprisonment)
    Františka Zemínová (1882–1962), editor and former member of Parliament for the Czechoslovak National Socialist Party (20 years)

    J’accuse . . . ! J’accuse . . . !

    Let us contemplate that horrific case — one of the comparatively few we can document — as we notice how say courts are being corrupted, how street slanders backed by riotous Red Guards are given media trumpeting and how legislature hearings and rules are being cynically warped to slander decent people brought to answer questions, but so soon as they begin they are cut off, cut off without effective recourse. A terrible sign.

    Where, I have to note, that the legislature was given immunity from normal defamation law, not so wicked sons of Nimrod MacCush could act lawlessly but so they could be free of external attack (historically from tyrannical kings) but open to judgement of their peers acting as their own court under natural law and parliament. For, the right to innocent reputation, that to fairness and that to justice are unalienable grants of the Creator who gave us responsible rational freedom. They are concomitants of that freedom.

    So, when we see instead courts, legislative assemblies and executives acting nihilistically and lawlessly, we should take due warning from this martyr’s fate as to where that road ends.

    Fools, we are, fools, if we do not wake up now.


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    kairosfocus says:

    I have added Einstein’s telegram and a YT vid clip. Let us hope some have a semblance of conscience to listen.

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    I’m a bit late in entering this thread, but in the context of “Critical Race Theory” which is much the rage these days, and at the root of the insurrection seen across the nation, I offer an allegory about the progress this nation has made since its founding.

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    kairosfocus says:

    AYP, you are always welcome. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: I have added the face of Milada, so we can look into it and realise the hell fire we are again foolishly playing with as a civilisation. KF

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    Querius says:


    Yes, I completely agree with you. Sadly, a portion of our society seems to desire fire and bloodshed for catharsis and absolution of their guilt followed by the the penance of perpetual poverty. In contrast, the gospel provides forgiveness and redemption through the blood of the perfect and complete sacrifice: Jesus’ crucifixion and his subsequent resurrection.

    Authentic Christianity provides racial reconciliation and social justice from the bottom up rather than anything from the top down.

    So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Paul’s letter to the Galatians 3:26-28 NIV


  67. 67
    Mac McTavish says:

    What most socialist/communist/authoritarian “revolutions” have in common is a charismatic individual to focus public opinion. I simply don’t see this in the US.

  68. 68
    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Let’s make a direct connexion to current events:

    Piece Of Berlin Wall Vandalized In Southern California
    By Eric Quintanar

    Jul 30, 2020

    ORANGE, CA – NOVEMBER 13: A section of the Berlin Wall in Liberty Plaza at Chapman University on Thursday. The wall was acquired in 1999, thanks to a two-year effort by Chapman University President Jim Doti.
    Jeff Gritchen/Digital First Media/Orange County Register via Getty Images

    A large chunk of the Berlin Wall placed at Chapman University in southern California to serve as a symbol of freedom has been defaced, university officials announced earlier this week.

    According to The Orange County Register, Chapman University officials revealed this week that someone vandalized the memorial with brown paint, which covered the historical graffiti on the bottom portion of the wall.

    “I am outraged by this senseless attempt to destroy a priceless piece of history and heartbroken that this can happen on our own campus,” Daniel Struppa, president of the university, said in a statement, reports the news agency . . .

    I doubt this was an act of mindless vandalism. Obviously, a mob could not be mobilised and the message of the people written on it as graffiti was objectionable to those who vandalised it by painting out the historic message of real protest against real tyranny.

    Eighty people were murdered by Communist guards trying to cross that wall, making it a sacred monument to just some of the 100 millions mentioned above. So, this is an act of willful sacrilege and blasphemously obscene disrespect to those 100 million victims of the most murderous ideology in history.

    Inconvenient truth must be erased is the message, and it will if we are ever so foolish as to cede power to such. Enemies of freedom.

    And BTW, guess what those who built and guarded that imprisoning wall called it?

    Oh, surprise — not — here is W/pedia admitting the unpalatable truth: “GDR authorities officially referred to the Berlin Wall as the Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart (German: Antifaschistischer Schutzwall)”

    Let us ponder what that tells us about the reality of, say, “Antifa” today.

    (And no, I am no more prepared to believe counter-narratives about oh it must have been a false flag operation than I was prepared to believe a single un-cross-checked word of the Government-owned radio station inmy homeland in that fateful year, 1980.)


  69. 69
    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, really, now. Political messiahs, those blasphemous demonic idolatrous antichrist counterfeits of the one true Saviour are a dime a dozen. If a ne’er do well failed artist and former lance corporal could do, there will be no shortage of the suitably demonised if that awful time comes. KF

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    Mac McTavish says:


    MMT, really, now. Political messiahs, those blasphemous demonic idolatrous antichrist counterfeits of the one true Saviour are a dime a dozen.

    Then identify him. Who is this Saviour in the US? As I said, I haven’t seen one.

    According to The Orange County Register, Chapman University officials revealed this week that someone vandalized the memorial with brown paint, which covered the historical graffiti on the bottom portion of the wall.

    The irony is amusing. How do you vandalize graffiti, something that is usually classified as vandalism?

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, as noted, the suitably demonised are a dime a dozen and in many cases emerge as strong men after fratricidal fights among revolutionary factions. Second, graffiti is normally vandalism but in this case is historic documentation regarding the notorious Berlin Wall c 1989. KF

  73. 73
    Mac McTavish says:


    MMT, as noted, the suitably demonised are a dime a dozen and in many cases emerge as strong men after fratricidal fights among revolutionary factions.

    We are not talking about feuding warlords in a lawless country. We are talking about organized authoritarian revolutions. Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, etc. They all arose fairly early, if not predating the unrest. We are not seeing this. Who is the presumptive leader?

  74. 74
    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, When the French Revo happened, Napoleon was nowhere in serious sight. Coups have been led by Flt Lts or sergeants. When force is the road to power, legitimacy is lost and ruthless faction power plays decide succession or emergence. So, your deflection is inappropriate, I am discussing breakdown, if it succeeds, not a current situation where some legitimacy is still there, though it is being aggressively and foolishly eroded. What I am far more concerned about is the logistics trail behind what we are seeing. Money and likely 5 – 10 years of direct preparation. The long march through academic, media and other institutions from Frankfurt School is much easier to trace, from the 1930’s. Who are the big funders from time past? On history, we may be surprised at industrialists etc who put in seed money way back. Ford money went to Hitler and a fair amount went to the Russians. Early work on air and tank war was a collaboration between Russians and Germans, in the Wiemar days. Krupps was doing things in Sweden. The point is, there is a teeth to tail ratio and at the right time operationally, people will be wafted up to be perceived as “credible.” The suitably demonised are a dime a dozen. But right now, a wrench may be tossed into the works, given emerging scandal as high as our Royal Family. poor Queen Elizabeth, she didn’t deserve this. And we have in hand a very specific face pon where show trials can go. What they did to a decent woman repulses me as a telling mark of the utterly demonic. KF

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    BobRyan says:


    Benito Mussolini was not a nationally known figure in Italy for many years. He was a reporter for Avanti and member of the Italian Socialist Party in 1912. Just because you do not see the person on the rise, does not mean they are not rising. Bernie Sanders, despite his age, has a loyal following. He has been grooming people to replace him when he dies.

    The violence and destruction is already happening under several flags, but it is just a matter of time until they line up behind someone. Shop owners who are black are being killed for defending their shops. Statues are being damaged and many have been removed by the cities who put them up. History books have been altered to show only the negative in America’s past, to justify any action taken against the US today.

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    BobRyan says:


    Rather than shifting away from the point of lacking justice under socialism and communism, why not explain how those who were convicted by the Nazis and later convicted by communists without altering a single position. Milada Horakova was one of many who was convicted by both and brutalized by both. Wherever socialism and communism rise, justice is lost.

    Venzuela has not had justice since the socialists took power. Venezuelans are suffering and starving as a result of the Venezuelan government. What happened to the media outlets that claimed Venezuela was going to prove to the world that a socialist government can work? Those that cheered Venezuela from abroad, never think of the people who suffer today.

    When people have been starving, madness sets in along with cannibalism. Just because it is being ignored by much of the world, does not mean it is not happening. The Ukranians, just like those before and after, held out as long as they could before succumbing to eating people.

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    kairosfocus says:

    BR, thanks for pointing out the concrete case, one that gives substance to what utter perversion of justice looks like. When traitors rule, real patriots are improperly convicted of treason and are judicially murdered. KF

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    Mac McTavish says:


    MMT, When the French Revo happened, Napoleon was nowhere in serious sight.

    But Marquis de Lafayette and Robespierre we’re well known leaders of the movement.


    Benito Mussolini was not a nationally known figure in Italy for many years. He was a reporter for Avanti and member of the Italian Socialist Party in 1912.

    And was kicked out of the party before he rose to prominence as the founder of the fascist movement.

  79. 79
    Querius says:

    Mussolini was simply a political opportunist catering to the emotions of the Italian majority by posing as their savior. He provided a list of changes that many people would agree with. If you don’t believe me, go through the list and see how many you would disagree with.

    My point is that if a Mussolini in disguise were present in any political party, U.S. or elsewhere, you and I and most other people would not recognize him! Let me challenge you to look at the points in the above link and tell me which ones would tip you off that this is a Fascist program.

    So, in any crisis, real or fabricated, a leader will suddenly emerge who will charm the masses with an agreeable message. Christians refer to the most talented of these as the future “Antichrist,” a political counterfeit of Jesus Christ.


  80. 80
    Mac McTavish says:


    So, in any crisis, real or fabricated, a leader will suddenly emerge who will charm the masses with an agreeable message. Christians refer to the most talented of these as the future “Antichrist,” a political counterfeit of Jesus Christ.

    I agree, but I haven’t seen anyone close to surfacing as the person who can charm the masses with an agreeable message.

  81. 81
    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, enough has been said on the side track. There are awful realities on the table to be faced, starting with a very particular face on the 100 million graves. KF

  82. 82
    Mac McTavish says:

    KF, this is not a side track. You have posited that the recent events could be a precursor to a Hitler/Stalin/Mao type revolution. I have simply pointed out that the current events are missing one necessary element. A charismatic individual to take advantage of these events and seize power with promises of AMERICA FIRST, a BOOMING ECONOMY and LAW AND ORDER.

    Maybe someone could arise to fill these shoes and manipulate politics, demonize the media and flaunt the constitution on grounds of the necessity to fulfill these goals. But I don’t see any evidence of this being even a remote possibility.

  83. 83
    Querius says:


    And that’s the job of the press. To create puff pieces, airbrush their chosen “savior’s” past, and Photoshop heroic images complete with sunbeams emanating from their proud faces and publish nothing else for a few months.

    Easy. 🙂


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    ET says:

    I don’t see Donald Trump as being charismatic. Every President should put America first. I doubt that Biden will. We had a booming economy just last year. The only way we won’t get it back is by voting a Democratic ticket in November. And if the mayors and Governors cannot bring law and order to their constituents, someone else needs to. Liberals flaunt law and order in order to disrupt lives and sway the election. Heck liberals attacked a place sporting a Norwegian flag because they thought it was the rebel flag.

    I will gladly stay with the devil we know over the other choice.

  85. 85
    Mac McTavish says:


    I don’t see Donald Trump as being charismatic.

    Who said anything about Trump? Nationalism, law and order and a strong economy are the promises of every would-be despot. Demonizing the media, manipulating politics and violating the existing constitution are the means by which they do it. It’s strange that you assumed that it referred to Trump.

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    ET says:

    I said something about Trump. I can do that. It is allowed. And all I said was he isn’t charismatic. That would would try to twist that into something else just proves that you are a troll.

    Nice own goal

    Nationalism, law and order and a strong economy are the promises of every would-be leader. There isn’t any need to demonize the media. They do it all by themselves. Manipulating politics is the work of the democrats. They also don’t care about the constitution. I doubt most of them can read for comprehension.

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    jerry says:

    the current events are missing one necessary element. A charismatic individual to take advantage of these eve6nts

    No what is missing are people willing to die for something in the future. Or in the current situation people willing to incur just bodily harm. Antifa would disappear in a nanosecond second if there was an armed opposition willing to engage them physically. There are people prepared to do this but in the current time they are willing to let the police handle it. If the police won’t handle it then they might do so.

    I used to joke that one side in this debate on the country’s future had 300 million guns while the other side didn’t know where to go to the bathroom. All these protest are an attempt to incite a response so they could brand those responding in a negative way. So far they have tried to do so with the police but have not gotten very far because their basic premise is a false narrative.

    As more get arrested these violent protests will probably just go away. What won’t go away is the ideological polarization that is here. Antifa and BLM are side shows useful to the Democrats for getting sympathy and then votes. I know few if any Democrats willing to die for anything. Because what they want is power in this world.

    People with families who vote for Democrats and there are obviously tens of millions of them care about The future of their children but have not yet made the connection between what the Democratic leadership is willing to do for power and the consequences for their children.

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, this is not a 1930’s style situation, there is no nietzschean superman above law — lawless — figure posing as messiah and there will not be any until things are far more chaotic. History more rhymes than blindly repeats. The US is already in 4G civil war, with the kinetic element rising. Key, cultural high ground institutions have been taken through a long march since the 1930’s, and the proper, sound roots of law have been undermined. Look at the OP and notice the 3-d cubical scale. The cultural buttresses that stabilise a modern democratic state are being undermined and threats of anarchic chaos are on the table. Polarisation is sharply rising, most of it tracing to the Frankfurt School’s success over 90 years, and especially in the comeback from the shattering of socialist credibility 30 – 40 years ago. The snap back that threatens is most likely to oligarchy, the rise of a new nomenklatura. look to who the obviously culture form marxists paint as the good guys, they on the whole will be trouble, given the topsy turvy world with agit prop agendas being shamelessly pushed. Similar to Rome after Octavian’s triumph, many accustomed forms and brands remain but substance has been eaten out. For the moment, backers will remain shadowy, as they are now. If I had to predict the rise of a strong man, if the backers of the Red Guards succeed, such would come when the critical theory, deconstructionism and linked policies create economic and social chaos and dislocation far beyond what already obtains. But I do not expect that, over the next 6 – 18 months they will continue to surge but will fail. Unfortunately, as with my native land post 1972 – 80, much further damage will have been done, with further damaging impact globally. KF

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    Seversky says:

    BobRyan @ 59

    Milada Horakova was an outspoken critic of Hitler before the National Socialists ever stepped foot in Czechoslovakia. She and her husband were arrested and both sent to camps. When the communists took over, her positions remained unchanged and was arrested and tortured for weeks until she signed a confession and was executed in 1950.

    I had not heard of Milada Horakova until this reference. Yes, her treatment was a tragedy and an atrocity, one of all too many that have been and still are perpetrated by totalitarian regimes.

    But what has that to do with Black Lives Matter?

    Why not discuss more pertinent examples of the atrocious treatment of oppressed minorities such as the murder of Medgar Evers or the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921, for example?

    Could it be because, ironically, we are observing an almost textbook exercise of the much-decried “Alinskyite” tactics of distraction, distortion and demonization?

    The promotion of a paranoid narrative that BLM is the just puppet of some vast Marxist conspiracy distracts us from addressing the genuine grievance of minority groups as being the victims of endemic, persistent racism since this country was founded, even since the first colonies were established on the continent.

    By distorting those grievances as either exaggerated or even non-existent you open the way for conspiracy theories, no matter how absurd, to provide the alternative explanations for what is happening to those who would rather not confront the real reasons.

    By dismissing the grievances and associating the protestors with the nightmare of a Marxist insurgency, you can then demonize and stereotype them as Red Guards or nihilists or whatever other boogeyman who might scare the rubes into supporting your case.

    Fixating on the undeniable atrocities committed by the totalitarian regimes of Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or Communist China does not mean that the most appalling racism practiced in the United States did not happen and is not still happening.

    There are white people who simply do not believe racism still exists at any significant level in the United States but mainly, I suspect, because they have never experienced or even observed it themselves.

    There were two examples which impressed on me that I, as a white person, do not understand what the daily barrage of racist slights must be like.

    The first was hearing President Obama talk about how, as a young man, he had the experience of walking into stores to do some shopping and being followed around by store security who obviously regarded him as a possible offender.

    The second was the astronomer Neil de Grasse Tyson who recounted having an informal get-together with some fellow black academics. He mentioned during the conversation that he had been pulled over by the police on some minor pretext and, out of curiosity, asked if that had happened to any of the others. They all said it had, in some cases several times. Do you think that would have happened to a group of white university professors? What do you think it is then going to be like for members of minority groups who do not enjoy the relative respect and social status of academics?

    That there has been vandalism and rioting associated with these protests is not denied but it is far from being on the scale implied here. There are plenty of eyewitness accounts attesting to the fact that the majority of the protests have been peaceful. But that may not last forever. If these protests are the surfacing of anger over long-standing and unaddressed grievances concerning persistent prejudice and discrimination by the dominant white culture then, by trying to dismiss the protests as some sort of Marxist insurgency rather than addressing their legitimate concerns, you risk bringing about the very catastrophe you fear. If the protestors conclude that no one is taking their complaints seriously then they might well turn to some charismatic but far less well-intentioned leader who does seem to listen and whose fault will that be?

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    jerry says:

    Why not discuss more pertinent examples of the atrocious treatment of oppressed minorities such as the murder of Medgar Evers or the Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921, for example?

    one example is a 100 years old, the other almost 60 years old. Isn’t this a diversion or distraction?

    Is current day United States the least racist society in the history of the world? I believe you could make a good case for that.

    I’m not saying that Black Americans don’t have a tough time. A high percentage do. But is the reason they do the result of policies by white liberals. Maybe if one is serious, they should get the opinions of people like Thomas Sowell, Jason Riley, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams and Orlando Patterson.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Seversky, the answer is marxist socialism and a trail of 100 million graves. All that was done above is to put a face to those graves and to expose the method of false accusation and where it points; a name put on the table by BR, I did not know of the case before, though it throws sudden light on other things. This method, BTW, has been all too prevalent these days. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    Jerry, guess where Orlando Patterson hails from. KF

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    jerry says:


    Jamaica I believe or another Caribbean nation.

    Didn’t go to the internet so I am not positive.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Jerry, yup. ‘E be “yardie” too. KF

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    kairosfocus says:


    do you notice how reliably we see a pattern of worldviews and linked cultural/policy agendas tied to influences of centres of power and dominant, domineering narratives?

    That is no mere coincidence, it reflects the impact of dominant centres of power and minds governed by ideologies that pretend to have cornered the market on truth, wisdom and right.

    That means that we have to think in worldviews terms and address linked cultural/policy agendas and domination of said centres of power.

    So, we see:

    1: evolutionary materialistic scientism and its pretence to have cornered the market on knowledge thus credible truth, along with fellow traveller thinking. Where,

    2: this self-refuting ideology undermines rational, responsible freedom of mind so logic and mind itself. Linked, we find

    3: so-called critical theories rooted in culture form marxism [thus, socialist thought], which imagines itself the centre of gravity of reasonable thinking, and has come to dominate large swathes of the academy, education, media [and social media and censorship], policy analysis and advice, commentary, social media etc. Where,

    4: in fact, for cause, such theories are radically incoherent in themselves, especially manifest through associated deconstructionism and selective hyperskepticism to targetted alternative views derided as totalising metanarratives. This boils down to

    5: reducing discourse to power games and agendas, i.e. might and/or manipulation make ‘knowledge’/ ‘rationality’/ ‘truth’/ ‘right’/ ‘rights’/ ‘justice/’ ‘liberation’ etc. This being nihilism, a dangerous absurdity. No wonder, we find, reliably,

    6: The patent evidence of design in the heart of cell based life — complex, coded alphanumeric algorithmic information in D/RNA, which is thus linguistic and goal directed — is dismissed out of hand as pseudo-scientific. For,

    7: when self-refuting ideology dominates and domineers the sciences, inconvenient evidence and reasoning will be strawmannised, branded as irrational and improperly marginalised. Similarly,

    8: sound evidence that markets are information systems that — due to information flow, validity and management challenges — cannot sustainably be suppressed and replaced by centralised planning . . . despite direct demonstration 30 years ago . . . has been suppressed, marginalised and supplanted by domineering narratives on “extreme right wing” capitalist/ patriarchal/ white “nationalist” [= Nazi] oppression demanding socialistic, statist solutions at national and international levels, leading to

    9: a dominant, censoring ideology insistently pushing for marches of folly as policy. Given such, is it any surprise to see that,

    10: so soon as a billionaire US President facing a pandemic mentioned as a ray of hope that HCQ+ cocktails offered some promise, many cried havoc and let slip the dogs of agit-prop and lawfare, components of 4th gen war that go with street theatre and the like, with a special emphasis on undermining legitimacy of civilisation and constitutional democratic government.

    So, we are dealing with power and ideology, not responsible rationality and policy prudence. Thus, we need to expose and break the bewitchment, knowing that we are dealing with a counter-culture remnant as across the past two generations, the Frankfurt School long march through the institutions has hollowed out and undermined the buttresses of soundness in civilisation and governance alike.

    Frankly, it is going to take pain and breaking the credibility of the spinmeisters for there to begin to be a waking up from the ideological stupor.

    With the US as geostrategic centre of gravity of our civilisation, it is unsurprising that that is the pivotal theatre of 4GW operations, and that such will be reflected in one of the most bitter, polarised, dirty election cycles on record. Over the next 6 – 18 months, the strategic decision will be made.

    As I have said already, I believe the culture form marxists will lose but will do a lot of further damage before they go down. Damage, that will be debilitating in the long term, with bad implications for the whole world.


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    BobRyan says:


    National socialism was socialist, Italian fascists were socialist, Russian communism was communist that spread their totalitarianism to other parts of Europe and were directly involved with the prosecution of those who were prosecuted by the Nazis. Totalitarianism rises in countries with democracy by destroying the foundations of the country in question. They give the appearance of being democratic, like Czechoslovakian communist government calling themselves the democratically elected communist party. When there are no other parties allowed to exist, it is not democracy.

    BLM wants to destroy democracy in the United States. They do not care about most black lives and most are not black. The majority of BLM are white kids at universities who use it to their advantage. Totalitarianism can rise in any country and the United States came close under Woodrow Wilson.

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    BobRyan says:

    When God is removed from any country, the result is always the same. The French called their experience with it ‘The Terror’ for a good reason. During the Tet Offensive, the VC were murdering very specific people, including nuns. Any sympathy that had been gained through propaganda was lost as a result of their actions. Lenin opened the door for Stalin, just as Stalin opened the door for Mao.

    There has never been a positive government that has risen to power based on atheistic principles.

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    BobRyan says:

    What BLM and others who call for social justice have no interest in justice. There is already a lack of equality under the law. Hillary Clinton funneled money through the DNC, rather than going directly to the Russians for opposition research on Donald Trump. Had her campaign contacted the Russians directly, there would have been no law violated. The moment she used the DNC to funnel money to a former British MI6 agent was the moment she crossed the legal line. A clear violation of the law and she will never be charged, just as she wasn’t when she mishandled classified documents as SoS. The law does not require any intent to be violated, yet that was the justification used to not press charges.

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: Report that protesters in Portland, Oregon are burning Bibles:

    >>Ian Miles Cheong
    Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland.
    6:46 AM · Aug 1, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
    Retweets and comments
    Ian Miles Cheong
    Aug 1
    Replying to
    I don’t know what burning the Bible has to do with protesting against police brutality.

    Do not be under the illusion that these protests and riots are anything but an attempt to dismantle all of Western Civilization and upend centuries of tradition and freedom of religion.>>

    [Video is there, 8 seconds]

    He is right, this is a demonstration of hostility to lawful order and to our civilisation in the first instance. In the second, even more seriously, it is gross disrespect for God and his Word.

    More signs of our times and choices (cf. OP).


    PS: Over in Scotland, Catholic Bishops are concerned that a new law is dangerously vague and over time can be used to construe the Christian Bible, gospel, gospel ethics and faith as hate worthy of up to seven years of imprisonment.

    PPS: Apparently,

    >>G. K.
    A preacher was handing them out to witness to the protesters
    Quote Tweet
    Charlie Shamp
    · 16h
    A Pastor that I’m friends with was at the Portland Riots last night as they burned bibles. He sent me this picture of the man that was handing out those bibles and preaching to the protesters.>>

    In short, this is a demonic reaction to the classic first amendment act of preaching, publishing and distributing the Scriptures. If you don’t want, just leave them be. Burning is not just disrespect but the attempt to rob others of the opportunity to access the said scriptures. That speaks volumes on the indoctrinated hate thereby exposed.

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    kairosfocus says:

    PPPS: This in-thread comment speaks inadvertent volumes:

    >>Gyra (Hype EX)
    we don’t worship marx dude. [–> cultural marxism, there is no denial of the connexion] we don’t worship anyone or anything. [–> boasting of atheism, and in context hostility to God or anything drawing attention to God, cf here on in context for a 101 response] there are deep flaws in the bible. [–> ignoramuses denouncing what they do not understand or respect] there are deep flaws in marx’s writings. [–> attempted equivalency in a twisted “even-handedness, here showing the neo-marxist context] they are both written by flawed humans. [–> direct denial of the possibility of Divine inspiration, consequential on the assumption of atheism] but the bible holds immense power and authority in america and must be challenged. [–> confession of culture form marxist critical theory and deconstructionist agendas. where, a mark of utter blasphemous disrespect is hate speech by action not mere “challenging.” In short, these are rabidly anti-Christian, yet another red flag.]>>


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    kairosfocus says:

    PS: A very interesting exchange in that thread:

    >>Replying to
    I have a really hard time believing these are people on the left- we know many white supremacy groups have infiltrated Portland and like making the local protests look bad- I don’t know ANYONE who would think burning a Bible is a good thing to do. It’s not
    Kyla Mills
    I believe u when u say u have a hard time believing the left is doing this. Let this be a defining moment. Research. Don’t be afraid of resources u would normally avoid. And when u discover that truth, ask yourself what else u believe needs to be vetted. U deserve to know. >>

  102. 102
    Mac McTavish says:


    F/N: Report that protesters in Portland, Oregon are burning Bibles:

    I don’t know the rationale behind this but it could be symbolic of the fact that most police are required to swear an oath under God to uphold the constitution.

    Frankly, as long as the bibles are legally obtained I would rather see them burn bibles, or any other legally obtained objects (religious books, copies of the constitution, the flag, police manuals…) than damaging public property.

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: I have updated the OP to address an attempt in the same thread to equate “Conservative” Christianity and Nazism.

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, I am sure that if, say, it had been an incident of burning of copies of the Quran or Torah (part of the Bible), you would have immediately seen the fatal flaw of hate speech acted out in this incident. Parallels to Nazis burning books from 1933 on and Red Guards burning Tibetan scriptures c 1966 made in the linked thread are all too apt. May God grant you the grace of penitence. On the import for this thread, the incident shows that the true target is our civilisation and particularly the key cultural buttresses that support sustainable democratic freedom with good order. The upshot of this, were the Red Guards to succeed, would be the reduction of our civilisation under the sort of domineering, ruthless power brokers who judicially murdered Milada Horakova and others on a slate of false accusations and concocted, lying evidence. KF

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    ET says:

    The Portland mob burns books because they want ignorance to lead the way. I listened to an interview with a few of them and if they got beyond 3rd grade it would be nothing short of a miracle.

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    Barry Arrington says:

    Mac McTavish

    Frankly, as long as the bibles are legally obtained I would rather see them burn bibles, or any other legally obtained objects (religious books, copies of the constitution, the flag, police manuals…) than damaging public property.

    So if you had been at the Nuremberg rallies in the 30s you would have been OK with the pyres of burning books just so long as the Nazis had obtained the texts through lawful means? Idiot. When confronted with appalling behavior, the proper response is to denounce it, not downplay it by practically congratulating the barbarians for not doing something worse.. Maybe you should write that down.

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    Seversky says:

    Would you have been as outraged if white Christian nationalists had burned copies of Mein Kampf or Das Kapital or Mao’s Little Red Book?

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    Barry Arrington says:

    Sev at 107. Let me say this in words of one syllable so maybe you will understand: Mob burn book is bad.

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    kairosfocus says:


    Das Capital or the Little Red books are not scriptures, so they are not an apt comparison. That you try to make such a comparison itself speaks volumes.

    The Quran, Torah and Tibetan scriptures are and that specific comparison WAS made, to MMT.

    Such said, book burnings, lawless Red Guard statue topplings (especially of liberating figures, figures of sacrificial heroism and founders/framers), church burnings, attacks on courts of law, police stations and vehicles etc are all signs of just that, lawlessness on the way to tyrannical arbitrariness on the part of the mob, its backers or those whose only claim to power is ruthlessness.

    Such, is exactly how Mrs Milada Horakova and others were able to be cruelly judicially murdered on trumped up charges and faked evidence with an imposed hoax of treason; complete with scripted confessions extorted through torture. Mrs Milada Horakova, doubtless, made her case even more hopeless by daring to break script and speak truth to the nation and world during her trial. Something, that is in itself all too uncomfortably close to the mark on current agit prop, street theatre, media amplification and lawfare.

    Let us have the common sense to recognise that in any reasonably functional modern democratic government, rioting, looting, arson, etc cannot be justified for much the same reason the Town Clerk of Ephesus dismissed lawless, riotous assembly c 57 AD: there are many proper alternatives for protest, petition and seeking redress. Where, too, once rioting and other lawless conduct begins, allowing rioters to use protests as cover is enabling behaviour.

    So, let’s bring it to a sharp point: lawless mob behaviour including book burnings (i.e. hate speech by action . . . Lex Rex was once ordered to be publicly burned by the Edinburgh hangman) is lawless and counter to the general welfare.


    PS: I cannot overlook, given the wicked slander I had to add to the OP and correct by link and counter-illustration showing the anti-Christian character of Nazism, that “White Christian Nationalists” is now tantamount to false accusation of Nazism. I suggest, in the name of common decency, that you cease from such unwarranted and even wicked comparisons and suggestions.

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    BobRyan says:

    “Mobs burst into the monastery, cathedral, parish church, castle, or palace, dragged the manuscripts out of the armoires where they had been stored for centuries, piled them in a mound in a public place, and lit the patrimony of the nation on fire.”

    It may sound similar to the direction the mobs are taking the US if they are not stopped. It was written about the French Revolution by Thomas Lecaque and comes from a series entitled Age of Revolutions. He goes on to write. “the estimate is that during the French Revolution, more than FOUR MILLION VOLUMES were burnt from suppressed monasteries, of which 25,000 were medieval manuscripts.”

    4,000,000 million pieces of history that can never be recovered. When they burn Bible, it is never just the Bibles that are lost.

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    jerry says:

    Down With Fascism!’ Cries Protester Burning Bibles

    It’s a parody but the new paper of record/irony usually hits home.

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    kairosfocus says:

    Jerry, De Babylon Bee, betta dan de ole Glimmer,* de Beeb and de Manhattan birdcage liner(s), much less various money sinkhole Cable talking heads talking point distribution vehicles. When satire is more on target than straight news, you know we are in big trouble. If things get much worse, we will all be mainlining Q and de man in de armoured car wid a bullhorn over in Austin TX. KF

    *PS: Literary allusion to the formerly respectable newspaper of record for my homeland.

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    john_a_designer says:

    Members of the MSM are telling us (uncritically parroting BLM’s talking points) that there is systemic racism in urban PD’s across the U.S. But where exactly is this systemic racism? I’m asking because I don’t see it. But what do I know? I only know what I know and most of that comes from T.V. shows. For example, I’m a big fan of true crime documentaries. One of these is A&E’s “The First 48,” which embeds camera crews with real life homicide detectives investigating actual crimes in several cities across the U.S.: Atlanta, Cleveland, Dallas, New Orleans, Mobile Al., Tulsa Ok even Minneapolis. (BTW there are no Hollywood actor reenactments. The investigators, witnesses and suspects etc. are all the real deal. However, sometimes the witnesses’ faces are blurred out along with the crime scene carnage.)

    I haven’t watched all 422 episodes (the show has been in production since June of 2004) but I probably seen well over 100. I don’t recall seeing anything like “systemic racism.” In fact, I don’t recall even seeing a hint of racism. What I do recall seeing are integrated PD’s with black detectives often taking the lead in an investigation… a true blue brotherhood that crossed racial lines… real compassion for the victim and a no nonsense toughness when it came to dealing with criminals.

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    Mac McTavish says:

    I find it interesting that the people who put out the fire were the “ Moms in Support of BLM”.

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    ET says:

    Those same moms accused of anti-blackness? Too funny…

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    Mac McTavish says:


    Those same moms accused of anti-blackness?


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    ET says:

    Too bad it wasn’t a bigger fire, then.

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    kairosfocus says:

    MMT, the obvious answer is they saw a cat out of bag, whoopsie moment . . . exposing what is for later too early. That reminds me of the student in a guild of students meeting in 1986 who blurted out the plan to get then wave the bloody shirt to trigger revolution. This was in the context of my using points of order to stop the crazier moments of the meeting. A Commie [yes, literal card carrying] prof in the meeting — how was never explained — literally boxed him on the ear and dragged him out of the meeting by the same ear. Later, I literally walked around with a copy of Roberts Rules of Order, joining my Bible. Signs of the times. KF

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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: For those who need it, let’s document the pattern of targets for the Red Guards, again using W/pedia’s admissions against interest:

    >>Attacks upon the “Four Olds”
    Main article: Four Olds

    In August 1966, the 11th Plenum of the CPC Central Committee had ratified the ‘Sixteen Articles’, a document that stated the aims of the Cultural Revolution [–> notice, official recognition thus critical mass backing] and the role students would be asked to play in the movement. After the 18 August rally, the Cultural Revolution Group directed the Red Guards to attack the ‘Four Olds’ of Chinese society (i.e., old customs, old culture, old habits, and old ideas). [–> sounds familiar to the current pattern of targets?] For the rest of the year, Red Guards marched across China in a campaign to eradicate the ‘Four Olds’. Old books and art were destroyed, museums were ransacked, and streets were renamed with new revolutionary names, adorned with pictures and the sayings of Mao.[12] Many famous temples, shrines, and other heritage sites in Beijing were attacked.[13]

    The Cemetery of Confucius was attacked in November 1966 by a team of Red Guards from Beijing Normal University, led by Tan Houlan.[14][15] The corpse of the 76th-generation Duke Yansheng was removed from its grave and hung naked from a tree in front of the palace during the desecration of the cemetery.[16]

    Attacks on other cultural and historic sites occurred between 1966 and 1967. One of the greater damages was to the Ming Dynasty Tomb of the Wanli Emperor in which his and the empress’ corpses, along with a variety of artifacts from the tomb, were destroyed by student members of the Red Guard. Between the assaults on Wan Li and Confucius’ tombs alone, more than 6,618 historic Chinese artifacts were destroyed in the desire to achieve the goals of the Cultural Revolution.[17]

    Individual property was also targeted by Red Guard members if it was considered to represent one of the Four Olds. Commonly, religious texts and figures would be confiscated and burned. In other instances, items of historic importance would be left in place, but defaced, with examples such as Qin Dynasty scrolls having their writings partially removed, and stone and wood carvings having the faces and words carved out of them.

    Re-education came alongside the destruction of previous culture and history, throughout the Cultural Revolution schools were a target of Red Guard groups to teach both the new ideas of the Cultural Revolution; as well as to point out what ideas represented the previous era idealizing the Four Olds. For example, one student, Mo Bo, described a variety of the Red Guards activities taken to teach the next generation what was no longer the norms.[18] This was done according to Bo with wall posters lining the walls of schools pointing out workers who undertook “bourgeois” lifestyles. These actions inspired other students across China to join the Red Guard as well. One of these very people, Rae Yang, described how these actions inspired students. Through authority figures, such as teachers, using their positions as a form of absolute command rather than as educators, gave students a reason to believe Red Guard messages.[19] In Yang’s case it is exemplified through a teacher using a poorly phrased statement as an excuse to shame a student to legitimize the teacher’s own position.

    Attacks on culture quickly descended into attacks on people. Ignoring guidelines in the ‘Sixteen Articles’ which stipulated that persuasion rather than force were to be used to bring about the Cultural Revolution, officials in positions of authority and perceived ‘bourgeois elements’ were denounced and suffered physical and psychological attacks.[12] On August 22, 1966, a central directive was issued to stop police intervention in Red Guard activities.[20] [–> stand down orders against policing in the face of favoured riots and assaults] Those in the police force who defied this notice were labeled “counter-revolutionaries.” [–> Oh, storm troopers, gestapo . . . ] Mao’s praise for rebellion effectively endorsed the actions of the Red Guards, which grew increasingly violent.[21]

    Public security in China deteriorated rapidly as a result of central officials lifting restraints on violent behavior.[22] Xie Fuzhi, the national police chief, said it was “no big deal” if Red Guards were beating “bad people” to death.[23] [–> where riots go] The police relayed Xie’s remarks to the Red Guards and they acted accordingly.[23] In the course of about two weeks, the violence left some 100 teachers, school officials, and educated cadres dead in Beijing’s western district alone. The number injured was “too large to be calculated.”[22]

    The most gruesome aspects of the campaign included numerous incidents of torture, murder, and public humiliation. Many people who were targets of ‘struggle’ could no longer bear the stress and committed suicide. In August and September 1966, there were 1,772 people murdered in Beijing alone. In Shanghai there were 704 suicides and 534 deaths related to the Cultural Revolution in September. In Wuhan there were 62 suicides and 32 murders during the same period.[24]

    Intellectuals were to suffer the brunt of these attacks. Many were ousted from official posts such as university teaching, and allocated manual tasks such as “sweeping courtyards, building walls and cleaning toilets from 7am to 5pm” which would encourage them to dwell on past “mistakes.”[25] [–> attainting, shaming, cancelling] An official report in October 1966 stated that the Red Guards had already arrested 22,000 ‘counterrevolutionaries’.[26]

    The Red Guards were also tasked with rooting out ‘capitalist roaders’ (those with supposed ‘right-wing’ views) in positions of authority. [–> notice the demonisation of the “right” in a country where Communists dominated and had ruled for nearly 20 years] This search was to extend to the very highest echelons of the CPC, with many top party officials, such as Liu Shaoqi, Deng Xiaoping, and Peng Dehuai, being attacked both verbally and physically by the Red Guards.[27] Liu Shaoqi was especially targeted, as he had taken Mao’s seat as State Chairman (Chinese President) following the Great Leap Forward. Although Mao stepped down from his post as a sign of accepting responsibility, he was angered that a capitalist roader like Liu could take the reins of communist China. [–> the why behind the push, recapturing power] >>


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    kairosfocus says:

    F/N: I/l/o the above on the corrupt and murderous show trial of Milada Horáková, contemplate what Wikipedia seems to have done with Gen Michael Flynn: Now, connect the dots to the broader connected pattern. Think about what sort of society we would have, were such to prevail. KF

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