A Little Something for Your Amusement

Doug: "I hope that was a joke." (in response to es58) What is truly astonishing is that to those not ready to admit a designer as the reason behind the fine-tuning of the universe, this is a serious proposition! What is it, 10^50000 universes in order to produce one with us in it? Our entire universe is not large enough to contain the number of razors necessary for Occam to shave this bloated number of parallel universes down to a number we can even write out with a pen in less than an hour. I think it was a joke, I sure got a good laugh from it. SCheesman

es58, I hope that was a joke. Doug

He may be on to something. Physicists say for every zillion zillion universes, 1 would support life. ID folks looking at biology would prob say that if you had a ZZ of those universes, you could get one that would produce life. A ZZ of those would prob get intelligent life capable of understanding what's going on around them, and then, according to gonzales, you might only need a ZZ of those to get ones who can see out into the universe to study it. So, for every zillion zillion zillion zillion zillion zillion zillion zillion universes you'd get us. See, no miracles necessary! es58

tragicmishap, Opss. Seems you came up with it ahead of me. Good job! I noticed that you got the "Zogby" word right. English is not my first lingo, so ;-) God bless Mats

I wonder if Henry even knows what Irreducible Complexity is. I hope he didn't get his science training in the same university as Judge Jones. *gasps* Let's see if this works: .................

Henry Rollins on Intelligent Design A news hobby international poll shows that 69% of americans suport public school teachers presenting the theory of evolution, aswell as theories that are in opposition. If only there were any that didn't have God somewhere in them. The theory of evolution proposed by Charles Darwin in his ground breaking work "Origins of Species", published in 1859, has been championed by scientists ever since. And like evolution itself, the science of it, the gathering evidence and data, is a ceaseless persuit of scientists all over the world. In the theory of evolution there is no talk of God and no Bibles are used. They are not looking for higher powers, extra-terrestrials, or anything else that can be found in the science fiction section, because they are not dealing with fiction. As more is known and more is shown, Christian Fundamentalists see their fingers being pulled off the stearing weel, as their oppressive schackles are more and more been seen as "fear based nonsence". And so these awful people, who favor "Abstinence Only" sex education, as does the President of the United States, seek yet again to put God into public school classrooms. First it was the re-write of the Pledge of Allegiance: the addition of "Under God" between "One nation" and "Indivisable", which they insist sounds great. Actually, it sounds like a baddly punched and edited that throws the rythim of the piece way off, and totally removes the power of the statement. Well, they are back with the theory of Intelligent Design. It's not much of a theory. It's more of an over fancified collection of sentiments, basically saying that there are life forms and functions in them that are so complex, that only God Almighty could have come up with them, and we can just stop wondering, and start praising Him. Now the foundation of Intelligent Design relies heavely upon an ideia called "Irreducible Complexity". The breath taking stupidity of "Irreducible Complexity" is only outweight by the complete lack of science involved. It is just intelectually lazy, and cannot be tested or challenged. You can't get God to come down to the lab and proove a f****** thing! You just have to believe. And science does not operate on faith. Faith is taught in churches. If you can't proove it in the scientific world, you've got no game! These Christian Fundamentalists psychotics are so power mad! They will stop at nothing! Willful ignorance, intimidation, and supression of information are their tools. Intelligent Design. "Abstinence Only" sex add. The new dark ages are upon us! Hang on, folks. This century will be a rough ride!

................ Mats

Wow. That was quite enjoyable. Here's the transcript: "A new Zogby international poll shows that 69% of Americans support public school teachers presenting the theory of evolution as well as theories that are in opposition. If only there were any that didn't have God somewhere in them. The theory of evolution proposed by Charles Darwin in his groundbreaking work "Origin of Species" published in 1859 has been championed by scientists ever since. And like evolution itself, the science of it, the gathering evidence and data is a ceaseless pursuit of scientists all over the world. In the theory of evolution there is no talk of God, and no Bibles are used. They're not looking for higher powers, extra-terrestrials or anything else that could be found in the science fiction section because they are not dealing with fiction. As more is known and more is shown, Christian fundamentalists see their fingers being pulled off the steering wheel as their oppressive shackles are being more and more seen as fear-based nonsense. And so these awful people who favor abstinence only sex education as does the President of the United States seek yet again to put God into public school classrooms. First, it was the re-write of the Pledge of Allegiance, the addition of "under God" between "one nation" and "indivisible" which they insist sounds great. Actually, it sounds like a badly punched in edit that throws the rhythm of the piece way off and totally removes the power of the statement. Well, they're back with the theory of intelligent design. It's not much of a theory. It's more of an over-fancified collection of sentiments basically saying that there are lifeforms and functions in them that are so complex only God Almighty could've come up with them, and we can just stop wondering and just start praising him. Now the foundation of intelligent design relies heavily upon an idea called irreducible complexity. The breathtaking stupidity of irreducible complexity is only outweighed by the complete lack of science involved. It is just intellectually lazy and cannot be tested or challenged. You can't get God to come down to the lab and prove a fucking thing. You just have to believe, and science does not operate on faith. Faith is taught in churches. If you can't prove it in the scientific world, you've got no game. These Christian fundamentalist psychotics are so power-mad they will stop at nothing. Willful ignorance, intimidation and suppression of information are their tools. Intelligent design, abstinence only sex-ed! The new Dark Ages are upon us! Hang on folks, this century's gonna be a rough ride!" Trascription note: Sometimes I was unsure of whether or not to use hyphens and periods, as he seems to be slightly less than competent handling the English language. Most of the periods would be better understood as exclamation points, but the last few sentences seemed to me to have added emphasis so I only used exclamation points there. tragicmishap

A picture is worth a thousand words... http://21361.com/site_2004/gallery/full/Henry20.jpg JoeManzari

Rollins sounds just like Lisa Simpson at the end of this clip: http://www.stephenjaygould.org/audio/thesimpsons.ram Collin DuCrâne

Ha ha ha... He referred to the 'Christians' reaction as "Fear based nonsense". I could only imagine what he considers his little diatribe. So much bloviating and propaganda I would be embarrassed if I adhered to the general sentiment he was expressing. It's funny, because regardless of how knowledgeable particular ID proponents are if their field of study wasn't biology they get disparaged with claims of, "yeah, but he's a mathematician/lawyer/philosopher... what does he know about biology.". I hope they are as critical with Rollins when he blabs on. This is evolution.....TO THE EXTREME!!!!!!! Doug

Happy Victoria Day! We can trace the origins of the ID/Evolution debate to Victorian england: http://www.victorianweb.org/science/science&religion.html You know the battle is getting ugly when the Darwinist camp engages in Rollinian poetry. If George Bernard Shaw were still around, he would give Rollins SUCH a smack. Collin DuCrâne

sad part is, so many brain-dead folks who want to hear this sort of thing. jacktone

Rage on, dude. See what happens when we don't forgive our parents? Collin DuCrâne

Apparently it might as well have been. crandaddy

Henry Rollins (born February 13, 1961) is an American rock music singer and songwriter; he has also been active as a storyteller, author, actor, poet, comedian, and radio and TV personality. Stars in Jackass: The Movie (2002) - as himself (cameo) Was the movie named after him? idnet.com.au