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He said it: Wait, shut up, believe, pay, wait, shut up, believe, pay, four easy steps …


Phillip [Johnson] is absolutely right that the evidence for the big transformations in evolution are not there in the fossil record – it’s always good to point this out. It’s difficult to explore a billion-year-old fossil record. Be patient!

– William Provine, evolutionary biologist, Cornell University*

– * quoted in Michael Powell, “Doubting Rationalist: ‘Intelligent Design’ Proponent Phillip Johnson, and How He Came to Be”, Washington Post (Sunday, May 15, 2005). For context, go here.

Oh, and did we mention that your kids are legally required to learn in school how to wait, shut up, believe, and pay too? Sure, because we may as well all be one big happy family in the Four Easy Steps plan. Maybe some of our children will be chosen for the noble task of suppressing doubt.

OT: This is neat: Einstein showed that space and time are to be treated as the same thing, i.e. as 4-D space/time. Thus as time moves into the future it is inextricably linked to the expansion of space. To find out how much the space of the universe has expanded since you were born, just go to this site and type in your birth date. SINCE YOU WERE BORN CALCULATOR Find out what's happened in the cosmos since you were born http://spacegeek.org/calc.shtml further note: The expansion of 4-D space-time is governed by the enigmatic 'Dark Energy, which neither emits electro-magnetic radiation nor interacts with 'regular' mass-energy. Besides the initial 'ordered' entropy of universe, which was balanced to at least one part in 10^10^123(Sheldon), the expansion of space-time is the most finely tuned universal constant to be discovered thus far. It is balanced to 1 part in 10^120 which is 10^98 times more accurate than our most precise scientific instrument. (1 in 10^22 for the gravity wave detector, of which we have not 'detected' any gravity waves yet). Fine Tuning Of Dark Energy and Mass of the Universe - Hugh Ross - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4007682 To clearly illustrate the stunning degree of fine-tuning we are dealing with in the universe, Dr. Ross has used the illustration of adding or subtracting a single dime's worth of mass in the observable universe, during the Big Bang, would have been enough of a change in the mass density of the universe to make life impossible in this universe. This word picture he uses, with the dime, helps to demonstrate a number used to quantify that fine-tuning of mass for the universe, namely 1 part in 10^60 for mass density. Compared to the total mass of the observable universe, 1 part in 10^60 works out to about a tenth part of a dime, if not smaller. Where Is the Cosmic Density Fine-Tuning? - Hugh Ross http://www.reasons.org/where-cosmic-density-fine-tuning Actually 1 in 10 to the 60th for the fine-tuning of the mass density for the universe may equal just 1 grain of sand instead of a tenth of a dime! https://uncommondesc.wpengine.com/education/belief-in-evolution-no-longer-a-metric-for-science-literacy-at-nsb-nsf-yay/#comment-352314 As well it turns out even the immense size of the universe is necessary for life: Evidence for Belief in God - Rich Deem Excerpt: Isn't the immense size of the universe evidence that humans are really insignificant, contradicting the idea that a God concerned with humanity created the universe? It turns out that the universe could not have been much smaller than it is in order for nuclear fusion to have occurred during the first 3 minutes after the Big Bang. Without this brief period of nucleosynthesis, the early universe would have consisted entirely of hydrogen. Likewise, the universe could not have been much larger than it is, or life would not have been possible. If the universe were just one part in 10^59 larger, the universe would have collapsed before life was possible. Since there are only 10^80 baryons in the universe, this means that an addition of just 10^21 baryons (about the mass of a grain of sand) would have made life impossible. The universe is exactly the size it must be for life to exist at all. http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheismintro2.html We Exist At The Right Time In Cosmic History – Hugh Ross – video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5708578/ I think this following music video and Bible verse sum up nicely what these transcendent universal constants are telling us about reality: My Beloved One - Inspirational Christian Song - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4200171/ Hebrews 11:3 "By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible." further note: How special was the big bang? - Roger Penrose Excerpt: This now tells us how precise the Creator's aim must have been: namely to an accuracy of one part in 10^10^123. (from the Emperor’s New Mind, Penrose, pp 339-345 - 1989) http://www.ws5.com/Penrose/ bornagain77
Be patient???, it has already been +150 years! "Now, after over 120 years (now +150) of the most extensive and painstaking geological exploration of every continent and ocean bottom, the picture is infinitely more vivid and complete than it was in 1859. Formations have been discovered containing hundreds of billions of fossils and our museums now are filled with over 100 million fossils of 250,000 different species. The availability of this profusion of hard scientific data should permit objective investigators to determine if Darwin was on the right track. What is the picture which the fossils have given us? ... The gaps between major groups of organisms have been growing even wider and more undeniable. They can no longer be ignored or rationalized away with appeals to imperfection of the fossil record." Luther D. Sunderland, Darwin's Enigma 1988, Fossils and Other Problems, 4th edition, Master Books, p. 9 OT: Speed Of Light - Near Death Experience Tunnel - Turin Shroud - video http://www.vimeo.com/18371644 bornagain77
"If the day should ever come that we understand how life emerges from a dance of lifeless chemicals, or how consciousness arises from billions of unconscious neurons, that understanding will surely rest on a deep theory of complex networks. At the moment, such a theory is almost inconceivable. But at least we know how to begin. We need to master the principles of network architecture, to learn how nature weaves her intricate webs." pg.232 Sync by Steven Strogatz. The obligatory bow at the altar of naturalism. After marveling at the order(design)discovered by mathematicians/scientists over the last 300 years or so! He dismisses reductionism. Now life is not chemistry, it is physics. Yet life "...is highly structured and definitely not random." pg.244 Sync. With Darwin it was simple, now it is complex. Yet all must forever bow before the altar, no matter how obvious it all "appears to be designed". It is all "the product of millions of years of natural selection,..." pg. 244. I recommend "The Emerging Science SYNC of Spontaneous Order" by Steven Strogatz, a very interesting read. smordecai
Hey, hey, hey- Genome Data Proves False the Theory of Evolution, New Theory Shows Complex Animals and Plants Originated from Prebiotic Chemistry All 3 papers can be downloaded... Joseph

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