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We can successfully predict the future arrangements of matter based on knowledge of the laws of physics that govern the interactions between particles. When too many particles exist to make detailed predictions about individual particles, we can use statistical physics to predict generally true and reliable outcomes of the larger system of particles. The 2nd law of thermodynamics provides us with a familiar example of outcomes based on statistical physics. If the future forms of living organisms are predictable, it will likewise be due to the ensemble of their systems of particles obeying fundamental laws of physics. “Evolution” is not a “law of physics” that is independent of or supersedes other known laws of physics.

Organisms respond in similar ways to similar circumstances.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

  • Evolution has long been viewed as a largely unpredictable process, influenced by chaotic factors like environmental disruptions and mutations. 
  • However, researchers have demonstrated cases in some organisms of “replicated radiation,” in which similar sets of traits evolve independently in different regions. Now, researchers report the first evidence for replicated radiation in a plant lineage. 
  • As biology learns more about phenomena like replicated radiation, we might be able to predict the course of evolution.

Evolution has a reputation for being unpredictable, yet orderly. With mutations and the environment playing huge roles, it seems that predicting which species will evolve which traits is much like guessing the roll of a single die with millions of faces. 

However, in some cases, researchers have found that the die rolls the same way again and again. A combination of separate organisms’ natural development and the environmental pressures placed on them can create very similar forms, or ecomorphs. Researchers call this phenomenon replicated radiation. (Sometimes, the term adaptive radiation is used synonymously.)

In a new paper published in the journal Nature Ecology & Evolution, an international group of researchers demonstrated that a plant lineage living in 11 geographically isolated regions independently evolved new species with similar leaf forms. This marks the first example of replicated radiation in plants, and the groundbreaking research gives us more insight into the possible future workings of evolution. 

Note: Reason suggests that the development of “similar leaf forms” stems from the fact that they all started from the same “plant lineage.” Furthermore, reason suggests that the original plant lineage had a built-in genomic variability that allowed the variant leaf forms to dominate when environmental pressures favored that form.

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Credit: Annelisa Leinbach / Big Think

The article continues: Different species of Oreinotinus [Viburnum] have different types of leaves. Simply put, some have a large, hair-covered leaf, and others have a smaller, smooth leaf. Originally, experts postulated that both leaf forms evolved early in the group’s history and then dispersed separately through various mountain ranges, carried perhaps by birds. But the distribution pattern of the species, combined with the striking differences in leaf traits, gave researchers an ideal system to explore the possibility that these leaf forms evolved independently across different regions. In other words, they could explore whether this was a case of replicated radiation.

If replicated radiation is occurring, the researchers would expect two key results. First, species in the same area should be more closely related to each other than to species in different regions. Second, similar leaf traits should be present in most areas, but they should evolve independently of one another.

Turning over the same leaf

As Oreinotinus diversified, four major leaf types evolved independently from an ancestral leaf form. The four forms varied in size, shape, margin — that is, whether the edge of the leaf is smooth or toothed — and the presence of leaf hairs. The study grouped the leaves into four types. The researchers also backed up their assessments with a statistical analysis based on these characteristics. 

Nine of the 11 areas harbor at least two leaf forms; four areas include three forms; and one, Oaxaca, is home to four. Based on simulations and models, the authors rejected the simple evolutionary model in which the leaf forms evolved before the species dispersed. They also found that chance alone does not likely explain why nine areas of endemism host two or more leaf forms. Based on these lines of evidence, the team concluded that leaf forms evolved separately within multiple regions. The leaf morphs did not originate early in Oreinotinus evolution. Rather, as different lineages diversified within different areas, each lineage “traversed the same regions of leaf morpho-space.”

So what is this clade telling us when it evolves different leaf forms? As it turns out, different leaves provide different advantages that suit particular climate niches. For example, the smaller leaves would allow more precise thermoregulation — the leaf won’t get too hot or too cold as the weather changes. On the other hand, large leaves would be better for lower-light, frequently cloudy environments, because they improve light capture and make photosynthesis more efficient. So the different leaf ecomorphs are adapted to specific sets of subtly different but often adjacent environmental niches.

The future of evolution

Researchers can now add Oreinotinus to an exclusive list of other groups of organisms known to have undergone replicated radiation, such as Anolis lizards in the Caribbean, cichlid fishes in African rift lakes, and spiders in Hawaii.

With a plant on the list, evolutionary biologists know this is not a trend exclusive to animals isolated on islands, where most of the other examples come from. Like island archipelagos, the cloud forest environments of Oreinotinus are separate from one another. A plant example will help evolutionary biologists pinpoint the broad circumstances under which we can make solid predictions about evolution.

Whether it’s Darwin’s finches, Oreinotinus, or a group of sugar-hungry E. coli, we are all subject to the mysterious workings of evolution. But perhaps, as a diverse set of research groups work to tackle the problem, the mystery will fade. As Michael Donoghue, a co-corresponding author of the Oreinotinus  study, said in a statement, “Maybe evolutionary biology can become much more of a predictive science than we ever imagined in the past.”

Full article at Big Think.

Predictive success alone does not guarantee the success of a theory of how nature works. Additional consequences of a theory must also make sense and not contradict established laws of nature. Naturalistic evolution still contradicts the principle that natural causes will on average degrade the information content (loss of functional complexity) of a system over time.

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"many biologists have reviewed his work and pointed out flaws." JVL, Sounds like scientists doing science. Andrewasauber
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JVL at 69, https://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0716-97602007000200002relatd
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Asauber: Dr. Behe’s position is based on the work that he did experimentally as a scientist in the Department of Biological Sciences and on the similar work of other scientists. He sure pulled the wool over Lehigh’s eyes disguising it as not science. Well, I don't think he submitted his work critical of unguided evolution to peer review and I know that many biologists have reviewed his work and pointed out flaws. I don't think the biological community considers his work a scientific threat. And I don't think you have shown that they do.JVL
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RL calls. Maybe tomorrow.Alan Fox
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Why do I need to solve anything that appears to have no connection to or with observed reality?
You now have a model that is most likely faulty based on methodological naturalism. That model is universal common descent. Thousands of papers are written assuming this is true and it is most likely not based on observed reality. The problem here ironically is scientific. http://www.sci-news.com/genetics/article01036.htmlbill cole
August 30, 2022
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So get specific. Show us a specific trail of small-step evidence, where unguided evolution occurred.
Well, I think there is a semantic issue in that I'm perfectly happy to agree with you (if you do) that evolution is a guided, a designed process. But I'm convinced that interaction between populations of organisms and the niche environments they occupy is the mechanism of design.Alan Fox
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"Doesn’t sound like they consider it a scientific challenge" JVL, Dr. Behe's position is based on the work that he did experimentally as a scientist in the Department of Biological Sciences and on the similar work of other scientists. He sure pulled the wool over Lehigh's eyes disguising it as not science. Andrewasauber
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Alan, we must be talking past each other.. I think you must only be responding to this because you feel safe in your truism... Can you unequivocally verify by observation or testing (or point to someone who has) that the same vehicle for microevolution has led to the development of unique body plans? I know you aren't dense. But your refusal to engage is noted.zweston
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[Macro-evolution] needs unknowable lengths of time for some magic to occur that wouldn’t otherwise.
We have fossil organisms, we have stratification that gives us times. We don't have rabbits in Cambrian deposits. Sure what evidence we do have is fragmentary and will always be incomplete. What we don't have are anomalies. The overall nested hierarchy of common descent fits all the available evidence, as does all the relatively new evidence of molecular phylogenetics. ID has a neat name and a few ageing enthusiasts.Alan Fox
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AF at 58, Tonight on The Alan Fox Show, Alan Fox sniffs and pokes at reality... Ewwwwwwwwwwww.relatd
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"Unguided evolution always happens over small steps." JVL, So get specific. Show us a specific trail of small-step evidence, where unguided evolution occurred. Andrewasauber
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JVL at 56, "Unguided evolution always happens over small steps." I send an unguided, driverless car down a road. How long before it crashes and burns?relatd
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Asauber: Since this is a full sprint run away as fast as you can retreat from ID, they obviously see ID as a challenge. Doesn't sound like they consider it a scientific challenge especially considering part of the statement:
It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific.
JVL
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If I am wrong, please tell us how it has been observed and tested.
For at least the third time... Macroevolution is not a different process.Alan Fox
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Andrew at 52, Of course they are afraid of it. People were taken to court over it. The big fear is that ID will get into schools. The idea of an actual Intelligent Designer will not be mentioned but those who are afraid of this know the chosen designer will be God, the Judeo-Christian God. So, the fear is real, and people will continue to post here as if they never knew this.relatd
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Zweston: The term applies mainly to the evolution of whole taxonomic groups over long periods of time. "Group" is not a taxonomic classification those being: Domain, Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus and Species. Which of those do you think 'group' refers to? Remember: taxonomy is a human invented system of classification which we apply to the natural world. I know you don’t use the term because you probably don’t like it, because to make them separate concepts gives you a problem…because you also conflate the two. I have no need for the term. Unguided evolution always happens over small steps.JVL
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"Macroevolution does not involve anything additional than the mechanisms described in evolutionary theory." Alan Fox, Yes it does. It needs unknowable lengths of time for some magic to occur that wouldn't otherwise. Andrewasauber
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How do you solve this and not be mislead by the idea that this is solvable given the constraints of science?
Science is a very practical pursuit, Bill. You make observations, measurements, try experiments based on hypotheses, discarding and refining. The process is coming up with predictive models that describe an aspect of reality accurately enough to be useful. Why do I need to solve anything that appears to have no connection to or with observed reality?Alan Fox
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Alan @ 50, I know that's your position, but your claim is unsubstantiated and not demonstrable. Your claim is a hypothesis that is untested and unverifiable. If I am wrong, please tell us how it has been observed and tested.zweston
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"I’m sure you believe that but what actual evidence do you have that the biological community considers Intelligent Design a challenge, as in scientifically threatening to the widespread consensus." JVL, "The department faculty, then, are unequivocal in their support of evolutionary theory, which has its roots in the seminal work of Charles Darwin and has been supported by findings accumulated over 140 years. The sole dissenter from this position, Prof. Michael Behe, is a well-known proponent of "intelligent design." While we respect Prof. Behe's right to express his views, they are his alone and are in no way endorsed by the department. It is our collective position that intelligent design has no basis in science, has not been tested experimentally, and should not be regarded as scientific." https://www.lehigh.edu/~inbios/News/evolution.html Since this is a full sprint run away as fast as you can retreat from ID, they obviously see ID as a challenge. Dare I say they are afraid of it. Andrewasauber
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JVL... I know you don't use the term because you probably don't like it, because to make them separate concepts gives you a problem...because you also conflate the two. Google says: The term applies mainly to the evolution of whole taxonomic groups over long periods of time.--- that works for me for now. Interestingly, macroevolution wasn't a creationist invention but rather from secular scientists.. You have an untested and unobserved hypothesis. aka A faith positionzweston
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...you didn’t really answer what we would need to see in order for macroevolution to be falsified… have we ever observed macroevolution? if so, we have an untestable and verifiable hypothesis.
Maybe you didn't like my answer. Macroevolution does not involve anything additional than the mechanisms described in evolutionary theory.Alan Fox
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The advantage I have over you is that I can make an effort at describing the theory of evolution and the evidence for it and draw on an enormous reserve of observations, papers, books, living scientists, I can even sniff and poke at reality myself.
The problem with all the papers you are quoting is they are based on methodological naturalism. Based on methodological naturalism blind and unguided is all you have because no other mechanism has surfaced to explain life's complexities except reproduction which is more a copying mechanism and not an innovative one. The theory has hit the wall based on methodological naturalism. How do you solve this and not be mislead by the idea that this is solvable given the constraints of science?bill cole
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Zweston: just the conventional definition I never use the term myself and I'd rather not misinterpret you or put words in your mouth so, could you provide the definition you subscribe to.JVL
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To deny design is to beg the question (a logical fallacy) that there not was a previous intelligence before humans.
I don't deny design. I additionally have what I consider a reasonable explanation - evolution.
Didn’t Richard Dawkins agree this was the most likely explanation for life?
I agree that panspermia is an explanation for the origin of life on Earth. There is no evidence for that idea as yet. The James Webb telescope and Mars exploration may supply new data points on that.Alan Fox
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Zweston at 45, That is the whole, complete answer.relatd
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JVL @ 37... just the conventional definition... Alan Fox @ 38... 1. scientific consensus says our material universe had a finite beginning. Therefore, the creator would have to pre-exist and be super-natural (outside of nature)...as nature cannot create itself. Not to say said creator couldn't physically manifest themselves if they chose to. --- That being said, you didn't really answer what we would need to see in order for macroevolution to be falsified... have we ever observed macroevolution? if so, we have an untestable and verifiable hypothesis. --- You can continue to say "it's just a flesh wound" and "mostly everyone agrees with me" but one is false and the other is irrelevant and anti-science.zweston
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• The Church “proclaims that by the light of reason the human intellect can readily and clearly discern purpose and design in the natural world, including the world of living things.” • “Any system of thought that denies or seeks to explain away the overwhelming evidence for design in biology is ideology, not science.” "Christoph Cardinal Schönborn is archbishop of Vienna and general editor of the Catechism of the Catholic Church."relatd
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AF, you know full well that blind chance variation plus differential reproductive succes (sic) does not deliver intelligently directed configuration.
We are talking past one another. Design of living, reproducing organisms is an outcome of evolutionary processes.
So, you have willfully distorted language, just for starters.
Not at all. It is ID proponents who have appropriated a perfectly reasonable word and injected it with spurious significance it was not designed to carry. I have to say it was about the most successful thing the ID community has achieved
Before, we get to failing the Newton’s rule criterion of actual demonstrated causal capability. KF
The advantage I have over you is that I can make an effort at describing the theory of evolution and the evidence for it and draw on an enormous reserve of observations, papers, books, living scientists, I can even sniff and poke at reality myself. You definitely hold a very short straw.Alan Fox
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Jerry: I explained it to my niece in 4th grade and she understood it and thought it was neat. But she is really a bright kid. Does she have a way of objectively detecting its presence or measuring the amount present? You know, in case a case came up that wasn't clear . . .JVL
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