Larry Moran wants Royal Society evo meeting cancelled!

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At his blog Sandwalk, one of our favourite commenters, Larry Moran, who has wracked up a ton of loyalty points in terms of free ID literature, points out that various people have made a mistake in writing to Suzan Mazur, author of Paradigm Shifters, complaining about the Royal Society’s go-slow on the new reno (Darwin replacement).

It looks to me like the organizers of this meeting didn’t think very carefully about the can of worms they were opening. When you have speakers like Denis Noble and Jim Shapiro you are just inviting trouble. When you try to lecture Suzan Mazur about paradigm shifting you are bound to regret it.

I’m beginning to think this meeting isn’t going to happen. The Royal Society is going to end up looking very bad and there’s no easy way to fix the problem short of cancelling the meeting. More.

I (O’Leary for News ) am beginning to think that this meeting will happen with or without the Royal Society but that it will be better for the Royal Society to host it.

The Paradigm Shifters: Overthrowing 'the Hegemony of the Culture of Darwin' Institutions get old and die. Is the Royal Society one of them?

See also: Royal Society says quit talking paradigm change Because they are in the midst of one. Hey, I just write the news around here, but all I ever say in these cases is, if nothing happened, why are all the Emergency Services here? Keep talking. Just keep talking. Distract yourself.

Larry Moran gets Suzan Mazur wrong (” When journalists who publish in key venues become interested in an otherwise obscure train wreck, we can reasonably suspect that a shift is taking place. That’ why we call it “news” and not “olds.””)

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News :) ,,, on a more serious note Of semi related interest to 'just inviting trouble' Noble and Shapiro, is this recent article from Jonathan Wells in Salvo:
Greater Than the Sum - Why the Design in Living Things Goes Far Beyond Machinery by Jonathan Wells – Summer 2016 Excerpt: An organism, however, in contrast to an isolated structure, rearranges its parts over time. An organism imposes organization on the materials it comprises, and its organization changes throughout its life cycle. To see how remarkable this is, imagine a machine familiar to most of us: a laptop computer. If a laptop computer were a plant or animal, it would start out as a protocomputer consisting of perhaps a few transistors, a little memory with some software, and a battery on a small circuit board. Then it would obtain materials from its surroundings to fabricate other components, and it would make its circuit board larger and more complex. Along the way, it would find ways to recharge its own battery. It would also write more programs. After reaching maturity, the laptop would run its programs by itself—imagine keys on the keyboard going up and down as though pressed by some unseen finger. If components were damaged, the computer could repair or replace them while continuing to operate. Eventually, the computer would fabricate one or more protocomputers, each capable of developing into other laptops just like it. A lot of design goes into laptop computers. How much more design would have to go into making a laptop computer that could do all the things listed above? No one knows. But such a computer would certainly require more design, not less. And the design would be radically different from human design, because, after the origin of the protocomputer, the design would be intrinsic rather than extrinsic. So the inference to design from molecular machines is robust, but it's only the beginning. There is design in living things that far transcends the machine metaphor—and it should inspire awe. http://www.salvomag.com/new/articles/salvo37/greater-than-the-sum.php
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Hey look bornagain77, Moran'll have to put up with AWFUl food due to Brexit. Have some pity, will you? This is probably merely self-defence on his part. You and I could make do with the local chip cart, but ...News_{July 4, 2016
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So Larry Moran wants the meet canceled because it might make the Royal Society look bad? Larry Moran, if he is so concerned with looking good rather than being right, should have thought of that little detail a few years ago with his response to ENCODE research. He certainly did not come out of that exchange looking very good. Indeed, he, and few other crogidy old Darwinists, came across to most onlookers looking like grumpy old die-hards who refused to admit they were wrong even when faced of tremendous empirical evidence to the contrary. No, Larry Moran is not one to be lecturing anybody on the finer details of trying to look good in the public eye since he has made quite an unattractive spectacle of himself in the past.bornagain77_{July 4, 2016
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Oh yes, and - much worse - really, really bad hors d'oeuvres and dreadful music. Boring conversation partners. Overpriced accommodations. We will be overcharged for the riot as well. Those people can usually be hired cheaper during fine weather but the RS is likely a tourist trap so ... .News_{July 4, 2016
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When you have speakers like Denis Noble and Jim Shapiro you are just inviting trouble. Trouble? Will there be, what, riots in the street or something?mike1962_{July 4, 2016
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