Uncommon Descent Serving The Intelligent Design Community

Real Time Evolution “Happening Under Our Nose”

Share
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn
Flipboard
Print
Email

A couple of weeks ago a friend forwarded me a link to this recent article about “ongoing research to record the interaction of environment and evolution” by University of California, Riverside biologist David Reznick. Reznick’s team has been studying adaptive changes in guppies. Reznick’s work focuses on tracking what happens in real-world situations in the wild, rather than the somewhat artificial environments in the lab. As a result, Reznick has gathered some of the more trustworthy and definitive data about changes over time in a real-world environment, largely free from the intervention and interference of the coated lab worker.

The article states:

The new work is part of research that Reznick has been doing since 1978. It involved transplanting guppies from a river with a diverse community of predators into a river with no predators – except for one other fish species, an occasional predator – to record how the guppies would evolve and how they might impact their environment.

In the recent follow-up research, Reznick’s team studied “how male color pattern affected” their differential survival in the environment. Significantly, the team even gathered DNA from the guppies over time to track who their parents were and reconstruct a guppie pedigree to help determine the reproductive success. Without going into all the details, which are interesting in their own right, the key point for my purposes today is that this adaptive change occurred extremely quickly.

Graduate student, Swanne Gordon, noted,

Our research shows that these fish adapted to their new habitats in less than one year, or three to four generations, which is even faster than we previously thought.

Reznick adds,

People think of evolution as historical. They don’t think of it as something that’s happening under our nose. It is a contemporary process. People are skeptical; they don’t believe in evolution because they can’t see it. Here, we see it. We can see if something makes you better able to make babies and live longer.

What Really Happened?

Now normally when my friend forwards a link, I will just review the article, realize it is making claims beyond the data, and move on. But coincidentally, just days earlier I had been reading Chapter 7 of Lee Spetner’s 1998 book, Not by Chance!

Part of Spetner’s argument is that many adaptive changes we see in nature are in fact not examples of a Darwinian process of chance changes + natural selection, but instead the result of specific programming capabilities in the organism to allow it to respond to changes in the environment. Indeed, what caught my eye about the article my friend forwarded is that Spetner had discussed Reznick’s earlier experiments in that very context.

After describing two different predators of the guppies: (i) the cichlid, which prey on large mature guppies; and (ii) the killfish, which prey on small immature guppies, Spetner continues:

Reznick and his team took 200 guppies from the Aripo [river in Trinidad] and put them in a tributary of the river that is home to the killfish but has no cichlids and had no guppies. Changes soon appeared in the newly introduced guppies. The fish population soon changed to what would normally be found in the presence of the killfish, and Reznick found the changes to be heritable.

The full change in the guppy population was observed as soon as the first samples were drawn, which was after only two years. One trait studied, the age of males at maturity, achieved its terminal value in only four years. The evolutionary rate calculated from this observation is some ten million times the rate of evolution induced from observations of the fossil record [Reznick et al. 1997].

Reznick interpreted these changes as the result of natural selection acting on variation already in the population. Could natural selection have acted so fast as to change the entire population in only two years?

Spetner goes on to argue that the adaptive change observed in the guppies is more likely the result of a programmed response to environmental change, and provides several examples of such changes in other species.

Where is the Darwinian Evolution?

Darwinian evolution, as we know, is supposed to work by natural selection weeding out random variation. The Neo-Darwinian model has traditionally gone a step further, suggesting that those random variations are genetic in nature — taking place in the DNA as a copying error here, a misplaced sequence there, an accidental cut-and-paste elsewhere . . .

So the question arises: do the kinds of rapid, adaptive, reversible changes Reznick observed owe their existence to this kind of Darwinian process, or are they the result of a pre-programmed genetic response to environmental changes?

Spetner makes a good argument that we are observing the latter. He goes on to show that even many of the classical examples of Darwinian evolution — you know, the examples of random mutation + natural selection that even most evolutionary skeptics have tended to accept: convergent “evolution” of plants in similar environments, the “evolution” of bacteria to live on lactose or salicin — are not good examples of Darwinian evolution at all. Even that icon of icons, finch beaks in the Galapagos, is likely not a good example of the alleged Neo-Darwinian mechanism of random mutation + natural selection.

All of this prompts me to ask a simple, but pointed, question:

How many good examples are there of Darwinian evolution?

The more research I do the more I come to the same conclusion Spetner did, namely that most adaptive changes are not the result of the random, purposeless changes Darwinian evolution posits as the engine of biological novelty.

Even skeptics of the grand evolutionary claims tend to accept, either specifically or implicitly, that Darwinian evolution can produce all kinds of minor adaptive changes, the so-called microevolutionary changes: variations in finch beaks, insect resistance to insecticides, coloration of peppered moths, and so on. And indeed, the “selection” side of the formula seems to work well, which is simply the somewhat pedestrian observation that if an organism is poorly adapted to its environment it has a poor chance of surviving.

Yet the engine of the novelty, the alleged random variation that is supposed to provide all this adaptive variability on which selection can work its magic, seems stubbornly absent. Even these most common of examples, on closer inspection, do not support the Darwinian claim. Thus the doubts multiply. If Darwinian evolution cannot even claim explanatory credit for things like bacteria being able to metabolize lactose, what can it explain? The more closely we look, the more anemic the Darwinian claim becomes.

Now we could be intellectually lazy and call every adaptive change we observe an example of “evolution.” But the problem with observing a change and claiming that we have observed “evolution” is that (i) we rob the word of explanatory value if it is applied indiscriminately, and (ii) we trick ourselves into thinking we have an explanation for what occurred, when in fact we have have no idea what is happening at the molecular level or the organismal level to produce the change. Claiming that we are witnessing “evolution” in such circumstances becomes then not so much an explanation as a confession of ignorance.

Real Darwinian Evolution

There are no doubt quite a number of legitimate, confirmed examples of random mutation + natural selection producing an important biological effect. For example, I think Behe’s review of malaria/sickle cell trait is a legitimate example of Darwinian evolution in action. And the circumstances of that example are rather telling: (a) large population size, (b) meaningful amount of time, (c) very strong selection pressure, (d) and change that can be caused by one or two single-point mutations.

If we see adaptive change outside of these parameters — small population, short timeframe, an adaptation that requires significant genetic change — we might be better served to suspect that we are witnessing a programmed adaptive response, rather than Darwinian evolution. And rather than being naively impressed with the great power of Darwinian evolution to act more rapidly than anticipated, we should be prompted to look deeper to find what is actually taking place.

Your Turn

In addition to the malaria/sickle cell example, what other examples of legitimate, confirmed Darwinian evolution can you think of?

Comments
tjguy, there was no natural selection involved in these guppy adaptations, IMO. It is a complex genetic program responding to environmental cues precisely as it was programmed to do by the original genetic designers. That is all.Mapou
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
05:08 PM
5
05
08
PM
PDT
And then you have the problem of stasis - no evolution occurring for hundreds of millions of years - or so the claim goes. How credible is that really? Here we have evolution in fast forward and there, we have no evolution - at least none that is visible. I guess this type of guppy evolution would not show up in the fossil record anyway. But when your theory explains high speed changes as well as no changes over millions and millions of years, in other words if it is so flexible as to explain anything and everything thrown at it, how can it be falsified? I guess I agree with most others here - this is not an example of the type of change that is necessary for common descent type of evolution to take place. It is just another example of natural selection choosing among the current genetic information the best genes available for their new environment. The information already existed. Nothing new was created.tjguy
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
04:51 PM
4
04
51
PM
PDT
The guppies were obviously programmed to adapt. Natural selection and random mutations had nothing to do with it. No stochastic search mechanism (e.g., Darwinian evolution) or any kind of optimizing system can solve the combinatorial explosion problem. Anybody who has played with genetic algorithms knows that they're only good for toy applications. The combinatorial explosion kills Darwinian evolution dead. It's simple math, folks. Evolution is not science. It's superstition.Mapou
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
04:50 PM
4
04
50
PM
PDT
Eric Anderson: I think Reznick’s work is commendable. He has tackled a legitimate situation in the real world and has gathered some very tantalizing and useful data. What's interesting is that all these sorts of studies are nearly always done by biologists based on evolutionary principles. Reznick clearly distinguishes between phenotypic plasticity and adaptive plasticity, and even finds a relationship between them. See Ghalambor et al., Non-adaptive plasticity potentiates rapid adaptive evolution of gene expression in nature, Nature 2015.Zachriel
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
04:42 PM
4
04
42
PM
PDT
How much of what is happening to the guppies, the result of epigenetics?jerry
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
04:09 PM
4
04
09
PM
PDT
I think we should stop referring to changes in gene frequencies as Darwinian evolution. In fact, I think we should stop calling it evolution.Mung
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
03:36 PM
3
03
36
PM
PDT
Thanks, Virgil @5. I'll have to check it out. ----- Incidentally, I'm not necessarily suggesting that I am completely on board with Spetner's approach -- or at least with his particular characterization of it. Nevertheless, I think he makes some excellent points about the limitations of alleged evolutionary mechanisms, as well as the possibility of more pre-programming than has been previously thought.Eric Anderson
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
03:32 PM
3
03
32
PM
PDT
<blockquote cite="Part of Spetner’s argument is that many adaptive changes we see in nature are in fact not examples of a Darwinian process of chance changes + natural selection, but instead the result of specific programming capabilities in the organism to allow it to respond to changes in the environment." Yes. This is what IDvolution posits. IDvolution - God “breathed” the super language of DNA into the “kinds” in the creative act. This accounts for the diversity of life we see. The core makeup shared by all living things have the necessary complex information built in that facilitates rapid and responsive adaptation of features and variation while being able to preserve the “kind” that they began as. Life has been created with the creativity built in ready to respond to triggering events. Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on Earth have the same core, it is virtually certain that living organisms have been thought of AT ONCE by the One and the same Creator endowed with the super language we know as DNA that switched on the formation of the various kinds, the cattle, the swimming creatures, the flying creatures, etc.. in a pristine harmonious state and superb adaptability and responsiveness to their environment for the purpose of populating the earth that became subject to the ravages of corruption by the sin of one man (deleterious mutations). IDvolution considers the latest science and is consistent with the continuous teaching of the Church.buffalo
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
03:16 PM
3
03
16
PM
PDT
What sickle-cell anemia indicates is that "beneficial mutation" is relative as a genetic disease could be beneficial and evolution seems to be nothing more than contingent serendipity. And evolution via breaking things isn't exactly a mechanism to bet the house on.Virgil Cain
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
03:03 PM
3
03
03
PM
PDT
Andre @3:
If sickle cell is the evolutionists best example then they are in trouble. How exactly is a mutation that kills you beneficial?
Good point, and something I didn't really discuss in the OP. Barry's comment @1 and my reply @6 focus a bit more on this. ----- Not a big deal, but just by way of clarification, it isn't that mosquitoes don't bite prey with sickle cell, but rather that the defective haemoglobin molecules in the red blood cell of a sickle cell carrier interfere with the malaria parasite's impact, leading to a selective advantage. It is, however, a loss of function mutation that is disadvantageous outside of the malaria context.Eric Anderson
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
02:54 PM
2
02
54
PM
PDT
People think of evolution as historical. They don’t think of it as something that’s happening under our nose. It is a contemporary process. People are skeptical; they don’t believe in evolution because they can’t see it. Here, we see it. We can see if something makes you better able to make babies and live longer.
Still the same condescending and lying propaganda. I can't stand it when scientists think they can talk to the public as they would to children. Any field of science that feels free to blatantly lie to the public is not science but ideology covering a hidden agenda.Mapou
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
02:22 PM
2
02
22
PM
PDT
Bob O'H @2:
Is there any evidence that the evolution of the guppies was the evolution of novelty? In other words, is there evidence that there wasn’t enough standing genetic variation in the introduced populations?
There was clearly phenotypic change in the population. Reznick's work shows that and demonstrates with significant confidence that the change happened rapidly. That aspect is not in question. What is less clear from the article and from Reznick's prior work, is whether (a) the change was genetic in nature, and (b) how the change came about. The first point is more nuanced, and I did not really discuss it in the OP. Briefly, it is possible to have phenotypic variation without any genetic change whatsoever. This is rather common and has been observed in both plants and animals. In other words, a particular genetic profile can play out in slightly different ways, depending on the environment, resources, food availability, opportunity for growth, feedbacks from the environment, etc. I am not aware of whether Reznick's DNA sampling actually isolated a genetic change responsible for the different coloration of the guppies. It does seem likely that a genetic change occurred, because they state that the change was heritable. (Again, that is not completely clear from the article and there are some interesting nuances we could pursue, but perhaps another time.) So let's assume that the change Reznick observed in just a couple of years was in fact a genetic change -- a bona fide reordering of certain nucleotides in the genome. Then we still have the question of how that could come about. Reznick seems to implicitly recognize that such a genetic change could not have occurred by random mutations or other known evolutionary mechanisms within just a couple of years, because the article says that he believes the change was the result of natural selection acting on pre-existing variation in the population. Yet if the variation was genetic and the variation was already in the population, then (i) his team should be able to identify it in the original population (which doesn't seem to have happened), and (ii) it is simply an example of selection (which no-one disputes happens anyway and which is not the source of any evolutionary development and which, therefore, does not teach us anything about how such development could have come about). What appears to be happening is that Reznick is confused, as are so many evolutionary biologists, about the ramifications of his research. He says that "evolution" is happening right "under our nose" and that this is the kind of evidence that should convince people who "don't believe in evolution." Yet, if he means "evolution" in the simple sense of some change in a population, then (a) no-one would dispute that anyway, and (b) it doesn't tell us anything about how the changes came about, which is precisely the matter at issue. On the other hand, if he means "evolution" in the sense of generating new biological information and new biological function as the result of random mutations and other evolutionary mechanisms, then his research certainly has not shown any such thing. Indeed, he seems to admit that such could not have occurred. It is the classic confusion and conflation that so many Darwinists fall into: they have a preconception that all of nature came about through things like random mutations and natural selection, so when they see any change in nature they naively, and without solid evidence, jump to the conclusion that "Gee, we must be seeing evolution in action." This cognitive dissonance between what the data actually say and what Darwinists think the data should say under their theory causes no shortage of sloppy thinking and muddled conclusions. ----- Now let me be very clear. I think Reznick's work is commendable. He has tackled a legitimate situation in the real world and has gathered some very tantalizing and useful data. Unfortunately, his knee-jerk "isn't-evolution-amazing" reaction is blinding him to other possibilities. Indeed, I think his research is incredibly interesting and points to the fascinating possibility that the guppies likely have programmed into their very organism a way to quickly adapt (clearly morphologically, and possibly even genetically) to environmental change. That is not the kind of thing that has anything to do with the Darwinian mechanism. It is not the kind of thing that confirms traditional evolutionary theory. The data is far more interesting than just another pedestrian confirmation of selection in action or some such. The data is pointing, even shouting, in another direction. Hopefully Reznick will take off the Darwinian blinders long enough to realize what a fascinating result he has actually uncovered.Eric Anderson
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
02:22 PM
2
02
22
PM
PDT
Barry @1: Behe's First Rule of Adaptive Evolution is applicable in the case of malaria/sickle cell. And in nearly all other examples of Darwinian evolution. For other readers who may not be familiar, Behe's rule is "Break or blunt any functional coded element whose loss would yield a net fitness gain." Two additional ways to think about this same concept: 1. It is quite easy to break something. Indeed, experimentally, what we see when we start introducing mutations and the like is breakdown of function, not formation of new function. Evolution -- at least insofar as the Neo-Darwinian paradigm is concerned -- by random mutations and similar chance changes will tend to break things. and as a corollary: 2. If a particular adaptive advantage can be obtained by either breaking an existing function or building a new function, evolution will break the existing function to achieve the adaptation. (And, I might add, without regard to whether the temporary advantage is net harmful in the long run.) In the few cases of legitimate Darwinian evolution (like malaria/sickle cell), we find that the adaptation resulted from a loss of function or a loss of information, not from an introduction of new information or new functional specificity. ---- Barry, thanks for reminding me of this point. So I should add to my question and make it a two-part inquiry: 1. How many examples are there of legitimate, confirmed Darwinian evolution? and 2. How many of these examples consist of new information or an increase of functional specificity, rather than loss of function/information?Eric Anderson
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
01:48 PM
1
01
48
PM
PDT
And more evidence for Lee Spetner's hypothesis- he discusses these guppies in his latest book.Virgil Cain
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
01:31 PM
1
01
31
PM
PDT
Is anyone suggesting that the new guppies are a new specie? If not, then all we're talking about is a new breed like orchids or dogs. And we already know that isolated populations tend to produce odd colors, etc. But as soon as you break the isolation, the critters snap back to standard characteristics. So I'm not sure why setting up a test miles from the lab, and therefore more expensive to monitor, was expected to produce anything new. Did anyone believe that tests in the lab could NOT have produced a set of guppies that looked any way the guys running the experiments wanted?mahuna
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
01:08 PM
1
01
08
PM
PDT
If sickle cell is the evolutionists best example then they are in trouble. How exactly is a mutation that kills you beneficial? Has anybody ever considered the reason these sufferers are not getting maleria is because the mozzies have a mechanism that recognize the food source is suspect? All animals including humans have sensory input about the food we are to not eat. Why would insects be any different when it comes to food sources?Andre
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
12:54 PM
12
12
54
PM
PDT
You shifted from discussing adaptive change to discussing novelty. Is there any evidence that the evolution of the guppies was the evolution of novelty? In other words, is there evidence that there wasn't enough standing genetic variation in the introduced populations?Bob O'H
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
12:09 PM
12
12
09
PM
PDT
EA:
In addition to the malaria/sickle cell example, what other examples of legitimate, confirmed Darwinian evolution can you think of?
Yes, the malaria/sickle cell example is adaptive. OTOH, it is not necessarily a general improvement. Same with the development of antibiotic resistance. Behe's description ("trench warfare") is apt. In a sense, we are witnessing "devolution" that happens to be under the particular selection pressures present, adaptive. I am unaware of any genuinely novel molecular information that has been created by these forces (I mean observed to be created; not inferred to have been created). The +2 point barrier seems to be insurmountable. Barry Arrington
October 12, 2015
October
10
Oct
12
12
2015
11:48 AM
11
11
48
AM
PDT
1 11 12 13

Leave a Reply