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Tom Bethell reflects on ET’s no-show, and what it means for popular culture

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They never write, They never phone …

In “Extraterrestrial Intelligence and the Search for God” (American Spectator, November 2011) , Tom Bethell reflects on ET’s fifty-year no-show:

A week doesn’t go by without the announcement of new planets. “Week Brings Hail of Planets” was just the most recent report. It capped a week of “new findings about worlds beyond our own solar system,” according to the Wall Street Journal. The latest marvel, 200 light years distant from Earth, has two suns. The reporter quoted John Knoll of Industrial Light & Magic as saying that this shows “science is stranger than fiction.” Actually, science fiction started this whole ball rolling, but that’s another story.

The search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) has gone on for more than 50 years. In 1960 Frank Drake, a Cornell University astronomer, cobbled together the Drake Equation, supposedly quantifying the likelihood that intelligent life started up on its own. Nothing has yet been found and the search is getting harder to fund. Microsoft billionaire Paul Allen put up some money which was used to build the Allen Telescope Array in northern California, but now it is “in hibernation.” The University of California was supposed to operate the array, but they’re broke too. Government money has dried up. Three years ago I tried to visit the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California, and, on a Wednesday, found the place locked up at midday. A night watchman came to the door. “Closed,” he said.

In the absence of aliens, the mood has turned to the much cheaper method of conjuring the possibilities from billions of billions of planets, using a current sample size of … one.

… Yet if SETI draws a blank, as I believe it will, we may have to confront the idea that we are the only intelligent life in the Cosmos. We could hardly be more unique than that. Maybe God put us here alone amidst all those planets, stars, and galaxies — a nightmarish thought for our modern atheists.

But surely they will just turn that into an Atheist-Message-of-the-Day too, Tom? When was atheism ever confuted by mere facts?

But still, what’s better for them for now is: THEY just gotta be Out There!!

Note: Apparently, there are over 200 responses so far at Spectator. Join the fun!

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Perhaps there’s a bit of ill-will because for years SETI has been funded to operate on the premise that an intelligent signal could be distinguished from background noise, while ID has been routinely mocked for proposing essentially the same premise.
It's not quite like that. SETI looks for a signal never observed from a natural source. Finding it would trigger a search for natural sources or processes. We know this because this cycle has already played out several times, most notably in the discovery of pulsars. ID denies the existence of a natural cause that has been observed and exploited for thousands of years.Petrushka
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Perhaps there's a bit of ill-will because for years SETI has been funded to operate on the premise that an intelligent signal could be distinguished from background noise, while ID has been routinely mocked for proposing essentially the same premise. It's accepted that if we get a code from outer space full of instructions to build a giant machine that launches Jodie Foster into contact with an ancient intelligence, no one will argue that it couldn't be intelligent because we don't know who sent it, we've never observed an intelligent agent designing such a machine, etc. Science has one set of arbitrary, capricious rules for inferring design in biology and different set for message from outer space. What's astounding is that they are inferring design for messages that haven't even been received! It's not that I can fault that logic, but it's 180 degrees from the approach to investigating biological information.ScottAndrews2
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AFAIK the SETI researchers have not claimed to have already discovered a signal from an alien civilization, then demanded they be allowed to 'teach the controversy' in astronomy classes.GinoB
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It is certainly the case that Uncommon Descent has in the last 12 months or so become increasingly hostile to SETI. But it hasn't always been the case.... Here's O'Leary in April of this year suggesting some kind of merger... https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/coffee-thoughts-on-seti%E2%80%99s-past-and-future-merge-with-id/ Gil Dodgen.... https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/are-we-alone-identifying-intelligence-with-seti/ William Dembski.... https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/design-detection-in-seti-just-fine-design-detection-in-biology-no-way/ https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/seti-with-a-twist-the-search-for-intelligence-continues/ So SETI has at some point fallen out of favour with Uncommon Descent. What caused this shift in attitude?Jello
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Bethell seems to think it does. If you read carefully you will see that we think that an atheist message could be got out of any circumstance to do with SETI. The failure of the SETI search is not a reflection on the characters of those involved, and the criticism is directed at those who keep the nonsense going regardless of the fact base - we've been saying that for years, as a search through the files will show.News
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Another in a seemingly new tradition of Uncommon Descent taking delight in critcising SETI.
But surely they will just turn that into an Atheist-Message-of-the-Day too, Tom? When was atheism ever confuted by mere facts? But still, what’s better for them for now is: THEY just gotta be Out There!!
I'm at a loss as to why the author of this article seems to think that the existence or otherwise of aliens bears any relevance at all to atheism?Jello
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NEWS: "But still, what’s better for them for now is: THEY just gotta be Out There!!" ------ Agent Fox Mulder: "I want to believe"Eocene
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