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12 Successful Predictions of Mental Reality Theory

William J Murray
October 15, 2020
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  1. “Matter” cannot be found to exist in any experiential reality.
  2. Consciousness is fundamental to observational measurement.
  3. The fundamental behaviors of reality can only be explained, or properly characterized, in terms of abstract concepts, such as mathematics, probabilities and logic.
  4. Information, and the logical/mathematic processing of information including necessary observational state variables, will be found to be the root of reality.
  5. Information transfer is fundamentally instantaneous and not intrinsically limited by either time or space.
  6. The mind can directly affect what we call the physical world because the mind is an essential variable in how information is processed into the experience we call “reality.”
  7. Individual minds, or consciousnesses, survive what we call “death.”
  8. Individual minds, or consciousnesses, preceded birth.
  9. Other experiential realities potentially exist and are distinguished from each other by variances in the set of information and the information processing algorithms that express reality experience parameters and results.
  10. These “reality” sets of experience can be shared by anyone accessing the same same base set of information and algorithmic interpretation.
  11. The capacity to visit and have shared experiences in this and of other realities only requires the mental capacity to switch one’s attention from one information/algorithm set to another, and have a broad enough set of identity-defining information that can include this kind of experience.
  12. Potentially, trans-reality set communication is possible.

All of these predictions have been successfully evidenced, including the ones listed as “potential”. The theory doesn’t predict those are necessary extrapolations of the theory, but might be the case depending on whether or not there exist alternate algorithms that can produce identity-sustaining experience sets that differ qualitatively from each other. Since we already have evidence of these alternate realities and have succeeded in visiting there and establishing communication, these potentials have been discovered as valid.

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Blind watchmaker evolution and materialism are dead-ends- well they are really just dead. Materialism makes the whole enterprise of science a waste of time.ET
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“Matter” cannot be found to exist in any experiential reality.
My experience of matter certainly exists. My toe hurts if I stub it on a stone. Whether that experience is caused by an external, objective reality or everything is a figment of my imagination is undecidable as far as I can tell.
Consciousness is fundamental to observational measurement.
Observing and measuring what? According to mental reality theory there is nothing 'out there' to observe and measure.
The fundamental behaviors of reality can only be explained, or properly characterized, in terms of abstract concepts, such as mathematics, probabilities and logic.
Again, what reality is there to have fundamental behaviors which need to be explained?
Information, and the logical/mathematic processing of information including necessary observational state variables, will be found to be the root of reality.
Information about what?
Information transfer is fundamentally instantaneous and not intrinsically limited by either time or space.
Again, information about what? And space and time are properties of an external reality which may not exist
The mind can directly affect what we call the physical world because the mind is an essential variable in how information is processed into the experience we call “reality.”
If there is no physical world then there is nothing for the mind to affect.
Individual minds, or consciousnesses, survive what we call “death.”
If there is no physical body to die then there is no death and if there is no death then there is no life after it.
Individual minds, or consciousnesses, preceded birth.
No death, no birth.
Other experiential realities potentially exist and are distinguished from each other by variances in the set of information and the information processing algorithms that express reality experience parameters and results.
In other words, there could be more than one consciousness having experiences. But wouldn't those consciousnesses be external to each other in some way, something we can never know?
These “reality” sets of experience can be shared by anyone accessing the same same base set of information and algorithmic interpretation.
Again presupposing an external database and others able to access it. It may be true but, according to mental reality theory, there is no way for us to know. It may all be just imaginary.
The capacity to visit and have shared experiences in this and of other realities only requires the mental capacity to switch one’s attention from one information/algorithm set to another, and have a broad enough set of identity-defining information that can include this kind of experience.
If there is no objective reality then how is that any different from just talking to yourself?
Potentially, trans-reality set communication is possible.
See above. The problem with mental reality theory seems to be that, if true, it is a scientific dead-end and indeed makes the whole enterprise of science a waste of time.Seversky
October 16, 2020
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BA77 said:
I don’t buy into reincarnation. Number 1, the scientific evidence I’ve seen is, to put it mildly, really shaky. Shoot the Dalai Lama himself said that he may not be reincarnated,,
Is it possible you have not investigated the scientific evidence for reincarnation as thoroughly as you might research other information because, as you said, "it disagrees with basic Christian presuppositions?" Also, I'm not sure what you mean by including the Dalai Lama's statement. How is that relevant? Outside of religious or spiritual interpretations, I'm not aware of anyone who claims incarnation, much less reincarnation, is a necessary aspect of existence; only that it factually occurs in some cases.
via your own merit, and not by the grace of God, it holds that you reincarnate and/or more provocatively ‘evolve’ to a lower or higher state of existence. i.e. think Shirley MacClain and all her New Age nonsense..
Philosophical or spiritual characterizations of reincarnation are separate issues and does not actually speak to the evidence itself. The recent, largest NDA study ever reported: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfiwd2PzXvw I'll let viewers reach their own conclusions.William J Murray
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I don't buy into reincarnation. Number 1, the scientific evidence I've seen is, to put it mildly, really shaky. Shoot the Dalai Lama himself said that he may not be reincarnated,,
Atheistic China Claims 'Right to Reincarnate' Dalai Lama - MARCH 13, 2015, Excerpt: China's Communist Party is officially atheist, but that has not stopped it from making some impassioned claims on the afterlife. Some of the strongest language at this week's annual national congress has been reserved for the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader. The fury is over his claim in recent interviews that he may not be reincarnated, ending the Dalai Lama's seven-century lineage. His comments undercut Beijing's plans to pick a China-friendly successor to the Dalai Lama after he dies. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/13/world/asia/ap-as-china-dalai-lama.html?_r=1
Number 2, it disagrees with basic Christian presuppositions. Namely, via your own merit, and not by the grace of God, it holds that you reincarnate and/or more provocatively 'evolve' to a lower or higher state of existence. i.e. think Shirley MacClain and all her New Age nonsense.. On the other hand, the scientific evidence for the validity of NDE's is MUCH stronger than it is for reincarnation. Shoot, it is much stronger than the purported evidence for Darwinian evolution is.
Near-Death Experiences: Putting a Darwinist's Evidentiary Standards to the Test - Dr. Michael Egnor - October 15, 2012 Excerpt: Indeed, about 20 percent of NDE's are corroborated, which means that there are independent ways of checking about the veracity of the experience. The patients knew of things that they could not have known except by extraordinary perception -- such as describing details of surgery that they watched while their heart was stopped, etc. Additionally, many NDE's have a vividness and a sense of intense reality that one does not generally encounter in dreams or hallucinations.,,, The most "parsimonious" explanation -- the simplest scientific explanation -- is that the (Near Death) experience was real. Tens of millions of people have had such experiences. That is tens of millions of more times than we have observed the origin of species , (or the origin of life, or the origin of a protein/gene, or of a molecular machine), which is never.,,, The materialist reaction, in short, is unscientific and close-minded. NDE's show fellows like Coyne at their sneering unscientific irrational worst. Somebody finds a crushed fragment of a fossil and it's earth-shaking evidence. Tens of million of people have life-changing spiritual experiences and it's all a big yawn. Note: Dr. Egnor is professor and vice-chairman of neurosurgery at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2012/10/near_death_expe_1065301.html
Inspiring Philosophy recently posted a video that goes over much of that scientific evidence for the validity of NDEs. Personally, I think he makes a very compelling case for the validity of NDEs from the scientific evidence.
Near Death Experiences: Irreducible Mind (Part 5) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnTVPCwPjhI
Another thing I would like to touch upon is that it is widely believed that NDEs are the same across all cultures. While that may be a comforting belief for some people who are uncomfortable with the notion of hell, that simply is not the case. There is a profound difference between cultures. A Small Glimpse At The Preponderance Of Negative Near Death Experiences Being Found In Foreign, Non-Judeo-Christian, Cultures:
Near-Death Experiences in Thailand: Excerpt: The Light seems to be absent in Thai NDEs. So is the profound positive affect found in so many Western NDEs. The most common affect in our collection is negative. Unlike the negative affect in so many Western NDEs (cf. Greyson & Bush, 1992), that found in Thai NDEs (in all but case #11) has two recognizable causes. The first is fear of `going'. The second is horror and fear of hell. It is worth noting that although half of our collection include seeing hell (cases 2,6,7,9,10) and being forced to witness horrific tortures, not one includes the NDEer having been subjected to these torments themselves. (Murphy 99) http://www.shaktitechnology.com/thaindes.htm Near Death Experience Thailand Asia - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8M5J3zWG5g Near-Death Experiences in Thailand: Discussion of case histories By Todd Murphy, 1999: Excerpt: We would suggest that the near-constant comparisons with the most frequently reported types of NDEs tends to blind researchers to the features of NDEs which are absent in these NDEs. Tunnels are rare, if not absent. The panoramic Life Review appears to be absent. Instead, our collection shows people reviewing just a few karmically-significant incidents. Perhaps they symbolize behavioral tendencies, the results of which are then experienced as determinative of their rebirths. These incidents are read out to them from a book. There is no Being of Light in these Thai NDEs, although The Buddha does appear in a symbolic form, in case #6. Yama is present during this truncated Life Review, as is the Being of Light during Western life reviews, but Yama is anything but a being of light. In popular Thai depictions, he is shown as a wrathful being, and is most often remembered in Thai culture for his power to condemn one to hell. Some of the functions of Angels and guides are also filled by Yamatoots. They guide, lead tours of hell, and are even seen to grant requests made by the experient. - ibid The Japanese find death a depressing experience - From an item by Peter Hadfield in the New Scientist (Nov. 30th 1991) Excerpt: A study in Japan shows that even in death the Japanese have an original way of looking at things. Instead of seeing 'tunnels of light' or having 'out of body' experiences, near-dead patients in Japanese hospitals tend to see rather less romantic images, according to researchers at Kyorin University. According to a report in the Mainichi newspaper, a group of doctors from Kyorin has spent the past year documenting the near-death experiences of 17 patients. They had all been resuscitated from comas caused by heart attacks, strokes, asthma or drug poisoning. All had shown minimal signs of life during the coma. Yoshia Hata, who led the team, said that eight of the 17 recalled 'dreams', many featuring rivers or ponds. Five of those patients had dreams which involved fear, pain and suffering. One 50-year-old asthmatic man said he had seen himself wade into a reservoir and do a handstand in the shallows. 'Then I walked out of the water and took some deep breaths. In the dream, I was repeating this over and over.' Another patient, a 73-year-old woman with cardiac arrest, saw a cloud filled with dead people. 'It was a dark, gloomy day. I was chanting sutras. I believed they could be saved if they chanted sutras, so that is what I was telling them to do.' Most of the group said they had never heard of Near-Death Experiences before. http://www.pureinsight.org/node/4 etc.. etc..
Verse and articles
John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The evidence for the Shroud's authenticity keeps growing. (Timeline of facts) - November 08, 2019 What Is the Shroud of Turin? Facts & History Everyone Should Know - Myra Adams and Russ Breault https://www.christianity.com/wiki/jesus-christ/what-is-the-shroud-of-turin.html September 2020 - "Where this gets interesting is that, whereas atheists have no experimental evidence supporting their unfounded conjectures for multiverses, Christians, on the other hand, can appeal directly to Special Relativity, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics, (i.e. our most precisely tested theories ever in the history of science), to support their belief that God upholds this universe in its continual existence, as well as to support their belief in a heavenly dimension and in a hellish dimension." https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/physicists-life-forms-could-flourish-in-the-interior-of-stars/#comment-711489
bornagain77
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Eugene @18, The probability wave function collapse into specific states includes whatever the thing being observed is entangled with, such as entangled photons. The information about what state the entangled photon must be in is instantaneous regardless of how far away the entangled state thing is. Also, the delayed choice quantum eraser experiment demonstrates that this instantaneous information transfer is not limited to linear time. It indicates that the past, present and future are all actually in the same place at the same time - something only MRT and Simulation theory could possibly predict.William J Murray
October 16, 2020
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@Q There is a difference between horoscopes and quantum physics? I've heard quantum psysics reached conclusions crazier than horoscopes. Maybe,for now, they don't have the necessary tools to work with, that's why they invent dumbest theories .JohnB
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> 5. Information transfer is fundamentally instantaneous and not intrinsically limited by either time or space I am not aware of any evidence for this claim. In fact, quite the opposite. While the collapse of wave-function is indeed instantaneous, it does not seem to be possible to use it to communicate real information faster than the speed of light.Eugene
October 15, 2020
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JohnB @8,
How someone would know how behave an electron when is not under observation…if is not under observation? :)))
When an electron is not being observed or measured, it doesn't exist except as a mathematical probability wave. As soon as it's observed or measured the probability wave, which is also called the wave function, collapses. In this case, this collapse brings an electron into existence. -QQuerius
October 15, 2020
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Thank you :)AaronS1978
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This might get you started : Science and the Afterlife Experience : Evidence for the Immortality of Consciousness by Chris Carter. It's available on Amazon. From the Book Depository description: * Examines 125 years of scientific research into reincarnation, apparitions and communication with the dead showing these phenomena are real * Reveals the existence of higher planes of consciousness where the souls of the dead can choose to advance or manifest once again on earth * Explains how these findings have been ignored and denied because they are incompatible with materialist doctrines * Carter's rigorous argument proves - beyond any reasonable doubt - not only that consciousness survives death and continues in the afterlife, but that it precedes birth as well. I don't buy into the "spiritual" perspectives a lot of authors put on the evidence, but it's still evidence. There are an immense number of books on amazon and videos on youtube about consciousness, the afterlife, OOBEs, NDEs, etc.William J Murray
October 15, 2020
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William I’m very interested in it and I’ve looked on the Internet I could never find anything saying that Consciousness exist prior to the human I’m just asking for some examples any examples that would be nice And you’re part of my source when it comes to looking into it that’s why am asking you because I’m not asking you to convince me I’m asking you if you have any examples of this And again I’m not trying to be rude because I’m very much on the side of ID and I desperately want there to be a soul But when you say the above statement it just seems like you’re avoiding my question because you don’t have an answer I honestly can’t find anything so anything would be niceAaronS1978
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AaronS1978, I'm not here trying to convince anyone of anything. If you're interested, look into it. If not, don't. It doesn't really matter; you'll be find whether you follow it up or not.William J Murray
October 15, 2020
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Understood but what evidence tsp we have of this preceding, I can’t think of normal can I find really anything substantialAaronS1978
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Rigby, Linear time appears to be an artifact of the entropic value of this experience. Since individual minds precede birth and survive death in a non-entropic state, they would therefore ultimately exist eternally - they are neither created or destroyed.William J Murray
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Could it be said then that "Individual minds, or consciousnesses, preceded conception?" If not, why not?rigby
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Of related note:
Theism compared to Naturalism - Major predictions of each Philosophy (compared to one another) - with references https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vHkCYvFiWiZfMlXHKJwwMJ7SJ0tlqWfH83dJ2OgfP78/edit Excerpt: 1. Naturalism/Materialism predicted space-time energy-matter always existed. Theism predicted space-time energy-matter were created. Big Bang cosmology now strongly indicates that time-space energy-matter had a sudden creation event approximately 14 billion years ago. 2. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the universe is a self sustaining system that is not dependent on anything else for its continued existence. Theism predicted that God upholds this universe in its continued existence. Breakthroughs in quantum mechanics reveal that this universe is dependent on a ‘non-local’, beyond space and time, cause for its continued existence. 3. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that consciousness is an ‘emergent property’ of material reality and thus should have no particularly special position within material reality. Theism predicts consciousness precedes material reality and therefore, on that presupposition, consciousness should have a ‘special’ position within material reality. Quantum Mechanics reveals that consciousness has a special, even a central, position within material reality. - 4. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the rate at which time passed was constant everywhere in the universe. Theism predicted God is eternal and is outside of time. – Special Relativity has shown that time, as we understand it, is relative and comes to a complete stop at the speed of light. (Psalm 90:4 – 2 Timothy 1:9) - 5. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the universe did not have life in mind and that life was ultimately an accident of time and chance. Theism predicted this universe was purposely created by God with man in mind. Scientists find the universe is exquisitely fine-tuned for carbon-based life to exist in this universe. Moreover it is found, when scrutinizing the details of physics and chemistry, that not only is the universe fine-tuned for carbon based life, but is specifically fine-tuned for intelligent life like human life (R. Collins, M. Denton).- 6. Naturalism/Materialism predicted complex life in this universe should be fairly common. Theism predicted the earth is extremely unique in this universe. Statistical analysis of the hundreds of required parameters which enable complex organic life to be possible on earth gives strong indication the earth is extremely unique in this universe (G. Gonzalez; Hugh Ross). - 7. Naturalism/Materialism predicted it took a very long time for life to develop on earth. Theism predicted life to appear abruptly on earth after water appeared on earth (Genesis 1:10-11). Geochemical evidence from the oldest sedimentary rocks ever found on earth indicates that complex photosynthetic life has existed on earth as long as water has been on the face of earth. - 8. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the first life to be relatively simple. Theism predicted that God is the source for all life on earth. The simplest life ever found on Earth is far more complex than any machine man has made through concerted effort. (Michael Denton PhD) - 9. Naturalism/Materialism predicted the gradual unfolding of life would (someday) be self-evident in the fossil record. Theism predicted complex and diverse animal life to appear abruptly in the seas in God’s fifth day of creation. The Cambrian Explosion shows a sudden appearance of many different and completely unique fossils within a very short “geologic resolution time” in the Cambrian seas. - 10. Naturalism/Materialism predicted there should be numerous transitional fossils found in the fossil record, Theism predicted sudden appearance and rapid diversity within different kinds found in the fossil record. Fossils are consistently characterized by sudden appearance of a group/kind in the fossil record(disparity), then rapid diversity within that group/kind, and then long term stability and even deterioration of variety within the overall group/kind, and within the specific species of the kind, over long periods of time. Of the few dozen or so fossils claimed as transitional, not one is uncontested as a true example of transition between major animal forms out of millions of collected fossils. - 11. Naturalism/Materialism predicted animal speciation should happen on a somewhat constant basis on earth. Theism predicted man was the last species created on earth – Man (our genus ‘modern homo’ as distinct from the highly controversial ‘early homo’) is the last generally accepted major fossil form to have suddenly appeared in the fossil record. (Tattersall; Luskin)– 12. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that the separation of human intelligence from animal intelligence ‘is one of degree and not of kind’ (C. Darwin). Theism predicted that we are made in the ‘image of God’- Despite an ‘explosion of research’ in this area over the last four decades, human beings alone are found to ‘mentally dissect the world into a multitude of discrete symbols, and combine and recombine those symbols in their minds to produce hypotheses of alternative possibilities.’ (Tattersall; Schwartz). Moreover, both biological life and the universe itself are found to be ‘information theoretic’ in their foundational basis. 13. Naturalism/Materialism predicted much of the DNA code was junk. Theism predicted we are fearfully and wonderfully made – ENCODE research into the DNA has revealed a “biological jungle deeper, denser, and more difficult to penetrate than anyone imagined.”. - 14. Naturalism/Materialism predicted a extremely beneficial and flexible mutation rate for DNA which was ultimately responsible for all the diversity and complexity of life we see on earth. Theism predicted only God created life on earth – The mutation rate to DNA is overwhelmingly detrimental. Detrimental to such a point that it is seriously questioned whether there are any truly beneficial, information building, mutations whatsoever. (M. Behe; JC Sanford) - 15. Naturalism/Materialism predicted morality is subjective and illusory. Theism predicted morality is objective and real. Morality is found to be deeply embedded in the genetic responses of humans. As well, morality is found to be deeply embedded in the structure of the universe. Embedded to the point of eliciting physiological responses in humans before humans become aware of the morally troubling situation and even prior to the event even happening. 16. Naturalism/Materialism predicted that we are merely our material bodies with no transcendent component to our being, and that we die when our material bodies die. Theism predicted that we have minds/souls that are transcendent of our bodies that live past the death of our material bodies. Transcendent, and ‘conserved’, (cannot be created or destroyed), ‘non-local’, (beyond space-time matter-energy), quantum entanglement/information, which is not reducible to matter-energy space-time, is now found in our material bodies on a massive scale (in every DNA and protein molecule).
bornagain77
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How someone would know how behave an electron when is not under observation...if is not under observation? :)))JohnB
October 15, 2020
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JohnB @4, Your statement is scientifically incorrect. Conscious observation or measurement has repeatedly been demonstrated to affect photons, electrons, and other entities on a quantum mechanics scale. See this 5-minute video of the explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1YqgPAtzho -QQuerius
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AaronS1978 @2, NDE's are only one line of scientific evidence that demonstrates the continuation of consciousness after death. There are many other lines of evidence that demonstrate to what can be reasonably considered a scientific fact. These lines of evidence show that a "life" in this experiential arena is something consciousnesses choose to participate in. The evidence and research is available to anyone who wishes to conduct a good faith search for it.William J Murray
October 15, 2020
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You clearly have succeeded in predicting these claims.Ian Thompson
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Consciousness(immaterial) is OFFLIMIT for science(study of matter) .JohnB
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I agree with AaronS1978.Viola Lee
October 15, 2020
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How has 7, and 8, definitely 8, but how have these two been proven, I kinda see NDEs but these are not a smoking gun for consciousness after death, they are highly debated, and have other explanations.AaronS1978
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...Ups! So much with your mental theory ...JohnB
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