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Frequent commenter Popperian often employs the “Possible Possum Gambit.” Here’s how he does it:

Barry:  An effect cannot be brought about by a cause that is incapable of producing the effect.  A pile of bricks can “cause” some things if they are organized in a particular way, a house for instance.  But a pile of bricks is incapable of causing a mental image of an imaginary unicorn.  Why?  It should be obvious, but I will spell it out.  A pile of bricks is in a different ontological category from a mental image of an imaginary unicorn.  Therefore, we can rule out a priori “pile of bricks” as a possible cause of “imaginary unicorn.”

Similarly, the physical chemicals in the brain are incapable of producing the mental images in the mind.  There is a vast, unbridgeable ontological gulf between physical things and mental things.  Therefore, we can rule out, in principle and a priori “chemicals” as a cause of “thoughts.”

Popperian invariable yells “False!  You’ve committed inductivism.”  Before we show why Popperian is wrong, let’s get clear what he is talking about.  Wikipedia describes the issue as follows:

Generalizing about the properties of a class of objects based on some number of observations of particular instances of that class (for example, the inference that “all swans we have seen are white, and therefore all swans are white”, before the discovery of black swans)

So why is Popperian wrong?  Simple, it is not inductivism to assert that things in one ontological category cannot produce effects in another ontological category.  For example, the number “seven” cannot cause the smell of roses.  The color “orange” cannot cause “pi to fifteen digits.”

And if Popperian were to yell, “False! You are committing inductivism,” we would think he is a loon.  This is not the same thing as the black swan error, because we are not inferring a universal principal based upon necessarily limited empirical observations.  Instead, our conclusion is grounded in a more fundamental metaphysical foundation:  logical possibility (or impossibility as the case may be).  In no coherent universe does “seven” cause “smell of roses.”  Therefore, this, like all logically impossible statements, can be ruled out on an a priori basis.

But, Popperian, continues, you don’t know that chemicals cannot cause thoughts.  It’s possible that they do.  This is where Popperian gets “Possible Possum” syndrome.  You remember Possible Possum from the old Deputy Dawg cartoons right?  His catch phrase was “It’s poss-i-bool; it’s poss-i-bool.”  See here.

Well Popperian, that’s not how we do science or metaphysics.  If I say we can rule out a priori “pile of bricks” as a possible cause of “imaginary unicorn” because it is logically impossible for a pile of bricks to cause an imaginary unicorn, it is absurd to stamp your foot and say “You’ve committed the error of inductivism, because it’s poss-i-bool; it’s poss-i-bool!”

Bare, unsupported claims of possibility will not defeat my a priori claim.  You are the one asserting possibility, so it is your burden to demonstrate possibility by outlining a plausible mechanism for how a pile of bricks could cause an imaginary unicorn.  And if you can’t even begin to do so, my claim is unrefuted.

The same goes with my claim that we can exclude “chemicals” on an a priori basis as being a cause of “mental images.”  Again, the bare assertion “it’s poss-i-bool; it’s poss-i-bool” gets you nowhere.  If you say it’s possible, then show us; until then my claim stands unrefuted.

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Kairosfocus, While I'm a supporter of the argument from rational inference that you and Victor Reppert have presented, the argument presented at #10 is IMO different. My intention is to focus on yet another aspect of reason: the indispensable teleological nature of rational inquiry. Without aim how can reason possibly exist? Sometimes materialism seems infinitely malleable and difficult to pin down, but materialists seem particularly fond of the concept of a non-teleological universe. The argument at #10 is saying: if they want it so much, let them have it :)Box
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no the claim is that the philosophy of materialism denies the existence of purpose yet materialists are unable to live consistently with that materialistic presupposition. i.e. Materialists live AS IF their lives had purpose even though their proclaimed materialistic worldview denies its reality. It is called being in cognitive dissonance. I suggest reading Nancy Pearcey's book, 'Finding Truth', for a deeper treatment of the subject:
[Nancy Pearcey] When Reality Clashes with Your Atheistic Worldview - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Kpn3HBMiQ podcast - Are Humans Simply Robots? Nancy Pearcey on the “Free Will Illusion” http://www.discovery.org/multimedia/audio/2015/08/are-humans-simply-robots-nancy-pearcey-on-the-free-will-illusion/#more-30001 Darwin's Robots: When Evolutionary Materialists Admit that Their Own Worldview Fails - Nancy Pearcey - April 23, 2015 Excerpt: Even materialists often admit that, in practice, it is impossible for humans to live any other way. One philosopher jokes that if people deny free will, then when ordering at a restaurant they should say, "Just bring me whatever the laws of nature have determined I will get." An especially clear example is Galen Strawson, a philosopher who states with great bravado, "The impossibility of free will ... can be proved with complete certainty." Yet in an interview, Strawson admits that, in practice, no one accepts his deterministic view. "To be honest, I can't really accept it myself," he says. "I can't really live with this fact from day to day. Can you, really?",,, In What Science Offers the Humanities, Edward Slingerland, identifies himself as an unabashed materialist and reductionist. Slingerland argues that Darwinian materialism leads logically to the conclusion that humans are robots -- that our sense of having a will or self or consciousness is an illusion. Yet, he admits, it is an illusion we find impossible to shake. No one "can help acting like and at some level really feeling that he or she is free." We are "constitutionally incapable of experiencing ourselves and other conspecifics [humans] as robots." One section in his book is even titled "We Are Robots Designed Not to Believe That We Are Robots.",,, When I teach these concepts in the classroom, an example my students find especially poignant is Flesh and Machines by Rodney Brooks, professor emeritus at MIT. Brooks writes that a human being is nothing but a machine -- a "big bag of skin full of biomolecules" interacting by the laws of physics and chemistry. In ordinary life, of course, it is difficult to actually see people that way. But, he says, "When I look at my children, I can, when I force myself, ... see that they are machines." Is that how he treats them, though? Of course not: "That is not how I treat them.... I interact with them on an entirely different level. They have my unconditional love, the furthest one might be able to get from rational analysis." Certainly if what counts as "rational" is a materialist worldview in which humans are machines, then loving your children is irrational. It has no basis within Brooks's worldview. It sticks out of his box. How does he reconcile such a heart-wrenching cognitive dissonance? He doesn't. Brooks ends by saying, "I maintain two sets of inconsistent beliefs." He has given up on any attempt to reconcile his theory with his experience. He has abandoned all hope for a unified, logically consistent worldview. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2015/04/when_evolutiona095451.html Existential Argument against Atheism - November 1, 2013 by Jason Petersen 1. If a worldview is true then you should be able to live consistently with that worldview. 2. Atheists are unable to live consistently with their worldview. 3. If you can’t live consistently with an atheist worldview then the worldview does not reflect reality. 4. If a worldview does not reflect reality then that worldview is a delusion. 5. If atheism is a delusion then atheism cannot be true. Conclusion: Atheism is false. http://answersforhope.com/existential-argument-atheism/
bornagain77
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bornagain77: Besides not “hitting a home run”, materialism can’t even get on first base as to explaining mind So? The claim was that materialists reject the existence of purpose, but the vast majority of materialists recognize that trying to hit a home run is purposeful.Zachriel
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as to: "e.g. hitting a home run." Besides not "hitting a home run", materialism can't even get on first base as to explaining mind:
‘But the hard problem of consciousness is so hard that I can’t even imagine what kind of empirical findings would satisfactorily solve it. In fact, I don’t even know what kind of discovery would get us to first base, not to mention a home run.’ David Barash – Materialist/Atheist - evolutionary biologist and professor of psychology at the ­University of Washington
further notes on the sheer poverty of materialism as to ever explaining mind: David Chalmers is semi-famous for getting the ‘hard problem’ of consciousness across to lay people in a very easy to understand manner:
David Chalmers on Consciousness (Philosophical Zombies and the Hard Problem) – video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK1Yo6VbRoo
Massachusetts Institute of Technology neuroscientist Sebastian Seung makes this clear in his book “Connectome,” saying:
“Every day we recall the past, perceive the present and imagine the future. How do our brains accomplish these feats? It’s safe to say that nobody really knows.”
There is simply no direct evidence that anything material is capable of generating consciousness. As Rutgers University philosopher Jerry Fodor says,
"Nobody has the slightest idea how anything material could be conscious. Nobody even knows what it would be like to have the slightest idea about how anything material could be conscious. So much for the philosophy of consciousness. Regardless of our knowledge of the structure of the brain, no one has any idea how the brain could possibly generate conscious experience."
As Nobel neurophysiologist Roger Sperry wrote,
"Those centermost processes of the brain with which consciousness is presumably associated are simply not understood. They are so far beyond our comprehension at present that no one I know of has been able even to imagine their nature."
From modern physics, Nobel prize-winner Eugene Wigner agreed:
"We have at present not even the vaguest idea how to connect the physio-chemical processes with the state of mind."
Contemporary physicist Nick Herbert states,
"Science's biggest mystery is the nature of consciousness. It is not that we possess bad or imperfect theories of human awareness; we simply have no such theories at all. About all we know about consciousness is that it has something to do with the head, rather than the foot."
Physician and author Larry Dossey wrote:
"No experiment has ever demonstrated the genesis of consciousness from matter. One might as well believe that rabbits emerge from magicians' hats. Yet this vaporous possibility, this neuro-mythology, has enchanted generations of gullible scientists, in spite of the fact that there is not a shred of direct evidence to support it."
And whereas the materialists has no clue how to get to first base trying to explain how mind can possibly emerge from matter, the Theist is literally overflowing with positive empirical evidence supporting his belief that mind precedes matter:
A Short Survey Of Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness Excerpt: Putting all the lines of evidence together the argument for God from consciousness can now be framed like this: 1. Consciousness either preceded all of material reality or is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality. 2. If consciousness is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality then consciousness will be found to have no special position within material reality. Whereas conversely, if consciousness precedes material reality then consciousness will be found to have a special position within material reality. 3. Consciousness is found to have a special, even central, position within material reality. 4. Therefore, consciousness is found to precede material reality. Four intersecting lines of experimental evidence from quantum mechanics that shows that consciousness precedes material reality (Wigner’s Quantum Symmetries, Wheeler’s Delayed Choice, Leggett’s Inequalities, Quantum Zeno effect) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uLcJUgLm1vwFyjwcbwuYP0bK6k8mXy-of990HudzduI/edit
bornagain77
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Zachriel A subjectively chosen goal is not an ontological purpose, and so is incapable of giving true meaning. But that substitution is one of those stock, subject switching dismissive talking points. The real problem is that the evolutionary materialist view utterly undermines the knowing mind and by reducing contemplation to computation -- which it cannot account for either -- it fails to see that it fatally undermines rationality. Let me clip Reppert for just one quick summary:
. . . let us suppose that brain state A, which is token identical to the thought that all men are mortal, and brain state B, which is token identical to the thought that Socrates is a man, together cause the belief that Socrates is mortal. It isn’t enough for rational inference that these events be those beliefs, it is also necessary that the causal transaction be in virtue of the content of those thoughts . . . [[But] if naturalism is true, then the propositional content is irrelevant to the causal transaction that produces the conclusion, and [[so] we do not have a case of rational inference. In rational inference, as Lewis puts it, one thought causes another thought not by being, but by being seen to be, the ground for it. But causal transactions in the brain occur in virtue of the brain’s being in a particular type of state that is relevant to physical causal transactions.
This gives more: http://iose-gen.blogspot.com/2010/06/origin-of-mind-man-morals-etc.html#slf_ref KFkairosfocus
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Zach: Even if materialism is true, it doesn’t mean people can’t have a purpose; e.g. hitting a home run.
You simply assume what you need to explain. Given materialism — a purposeless universe — how do you explain the existence of purpose? // Dawkins: "The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” Box
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Box: 1. If materialism is true then the universe, and everything in it, is without teleology (purpose). Even if materialism is true, it doesn't mean people can't have a purpose; e.g. hitting a home run.Zachriel
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It is impossible for materialism to ground reason: 1. If materialism is true then the universe, and everything in it, is without teleology (purpose). 2. Reason cannot exist without teleology; e.g. science is aimed at truth. 3. Materialism cannot ground reason (1 & 2). 4. Reason exists. conclusion: Materialism is falseBox
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bFast #1 - This is the whole point. Ontologically speaking, the computer "playing chess" is simply switching bits on and off, which are entirely explainable effects from the causation of voltages, wires and transistors. As conscious agents we are able to see that the contrived system is actually playing chess which is an abstract concept and ontologically separate from what the actual device is doing. I think you are confusing things and Barry's point thesis remains valid.aqeels
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Of related note to the 'not even wrong' atheistic claim that mind is reducible to chemistry: Einstein was once asked (by a philosopher):
"Can physics demonstrate the existence of 'the now' in order to make the notion of 'now' into a scientifically valid term?"
Einstein's answer was categorical, he said:
"The experience of 'the now' cannot be turned into an object of physical measurement, it can never be a part of physics."
Quote was taken from the last few minutes of this following video or can be read in full context in the article following the video:
Stanley L. Jaki: "The Mind and Its Now" https://vimeo.com/10588094 The Mind and Its Now - Stanley L. Jaki, July 2008 Excerpts: There can be no active mind without its sensing its existence in the moment called now.,,, Three quarters of a century ago Charles Sherrington, the greatest modern student of the brain, spoke memorably on the mind's baffling independence of the brain. The mind lives in a self-continued now or rather in the now continued in the self. This life involves the entire brain, some parts of which overlap, others do not. ,,,There is no physical parallel to the mind's ability to extend from its position in the momentary present to its past moments, or in its ability to imagine its future. The mind remains identical with itself while it lives through its momentary nows. ,,, the now is immensely richer an experience than any marvelous set of numbers, even if science could give an account of the set of numbers, in terms of energy levels. The now is not a number. It is rather a word, the most decisive of all words. It is through experiencing that word that the mind comes alive and registers all existence around and well beyond. ,,, All our moments, all our nows, flow into a personal continuum, of which the supreme form is the NOW which is uncreated, because it simply IS. http://www.saintcd.com/science-and-faith/277-the-mind-and-its-now.html?showall=1&limitstart=
The statement, 'the now' cannot be turned into an object of physical measurement’, was an interesting statement for Einstein to make since 'the now of the mind' has, from many recent experiments in quantum mechanics, undermined the space-time of Einstein's General Relativity as to being the absolute frame of reference for reality.
A Short Survey Of Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness Excerpt: Putting all the lines of evidence together the argument for God from consciousness can now be framed like this: 1. Consciousness either preceded all of material reality or is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality. 2. If consciousness is a ‘epi-phenomena’ of material reality then consciousness will be found to have no special position within material reality. Whereas conversely, if consciousness precedes material reality then consciousness will be found to have a special position within material reality. 3. Consciousness is found to have a special, even central, position within material reality. 4. Therefore, consciousness is found to precede material reality. Four intersecting lines of experimental evidence from quantum mechanics that shows that consciousness precedes material reality (Wigner’s Quantum Symmetries, Wheeler’s Delayed Choice, Leggett’s Inequalities, Quantum Zeno effect) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uLcJUgLm1vwFyjwcbwuYP0bK6k8mXy-of990HudzduI/edit
i.e. 'the now of the mind', contrary to what Einstein thought possible for experimental physics, and according to advances in quantum mechanics, takes precedence over past events in time. Moreover, due to advances in quantum mechanics, it would now be much more appropriate to phrase Einstein's answer to the philosopher in this way:
"It is impossible for the experience of 'the now of the mind' to ever be divorced from physical measurement, it will always be a part of physics."
Experiment and Quote:
Reality doesn’t exist until we measure it, (Delayed Choice) quantum experiment confirms - Mind = blown. - FIONA MACDONALD - 1 JUN 2015 Excerpt: "It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it," lead researcher and physicist Andrew Truscott said in a press release. http://www.sciencealert.com/reality-doesn-t-exist-until-we-measure-it-quantum-experiment-confirms "Look, we all have fun ridiculing the creationists who think the world sprang into existence on October 23, 4004 BC at 9AM (presumably Babylonian time), with the fossils already in the ground, light from distant stars heading toward us, etc. But if we accept the usual picture of quantum mechanics, then in a certain sense the situation is far worse: the world (as you experience it) might as well not have existed 10^-43 seconds ago!" Scott Aaronson - MIT associate Professor
Verse:
Psalm 139:17-18 How precious concerning me are your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!
bornagain77
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goodusername states
Ingest certain chemicals that affect the physical chemicals of the brain and you’ll see lots unicorns and not just black swans but purple and yellow ones.
and dgw states
The chemicals sensed in smelling freshly cooked bread generate different thoughts than the chemicals sensed in smelling body odor, or tasting canned peaches (which invoke thoughts of what a good fresh peach tastes like.).
Although chemicals can have pronounced effects on the perception of mind, mind still is not reducible to chemistry. That the mind has causal power over the brain and is therefore not reducible to brain is revealed by Schwartz's work in brain plasticity:
The Case for the Soul - InspiringPhilosophy - (4:03 minute mark, Brain Plasticity including Schwartz's work) - Oct. 2014 - video The Mind is able to modify the brain (brain plasticity). Moreover, Idealism explains all anomalous evidence of personality changes due to brain injury, whereas physicalism cannot explain mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBsI_ay8K70
Moreover besides Brain Plasticity, mind can also, completely contrary to materialistic thought, reach all the way down and have pronounced effects on the gene expression of our bodies:
Scientists Finally Show How Your Thoughts Can Cause Specific Molecular Changes To Your Genes, - December 10, 2013 Excerpt: “To the best of our knowledge, this is the first paper that shows rapid alterations in gene expression within subjects associated with mindfulness meditation practice,” says study author Richard J. Davidson, founder of the Center for Investigating Healthy Minds and the William James and Vilas Professor of Psychology and Psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. “Most interestingly, the changes were observed in genes that are the current targets of anti-inflammatory and analgesic drugs,” says Perla Kaliman, first author of the article and a researcher at the Institute of Biomedical Research of Barcelona, Spain (IIBB-CSIC-IDIBAPS), where the molecular analyses were conducted.,,, the researchers say, there was no difference in the tested genes between the two groups of people at the start of the study. The observed effects were seen only in the meditators following mindfulness practice. In addition, several other DNA-modifying genes showed no differences between groups, suggesting that the mindfulness practice specifically affected certain regulatory pathways. http://www.tunedbody.com/scientists-finally-show-thoughts-can-cause-specific-molecular-changes-genes/
bornagain77
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BA: A nail on the head moment. Our civilisation has been so indoctrinated in a science is the only begetter of truth, a priori ideological evolutionary materialist scientism-driven mindset that more and more we believe in the poofery of chance and necessity driven mindless emergence. I have never heard of the cartoon opossum, but it seems to capture a mindset. Perhaps, we need to go back to Newton's vera causa, demonstrated adequate cause principle: when explaining the cause of traces of an effect that we did not or cannot directly observe we should only allow ourselves to bring to the table causal factors shown to be relevant by causing the like result. Otherwise, we will tend to be caught up in ever more speculative ideologically driven webs of rhetoric. Too often, spun by a clever story-teller dressed up in a lab coat. For instance, above someone suggested:
My computer is known to be a bunch of silicone, doping, gold wires and such — plus a bit of electricity; yet it can play chess pretty well
Left out, that computer is full of hardware and software that are full of functionally specific, complex organisation and associated information, FSCO/I that we actually know to have come from the contrivance of highly intelligent and skilled designers. And, on trillions of cases in point, that is the ONLY actually observed actual cause. Worse, a needle in haystack analysis will readily show that the abstract notion that such could spontaneously assemble itself through blind watchmaker chance and blind necessity is vanishingly implausible on the gamut of our observed cosmos. And, there are now others who would suggest, well in some abstractly possible world, the like could conceivably happen for all we know and maybe God thought it elegant to set the ball rolling on that world. So there, there is no reason for us to say that the FSCO/I you point to is a reliable sign of design. At least, empirically detectable design. What non ad hoc reason do you have for dismissing the inductive inference and the associated analysis, much less the point that a relevant and competent- by- its- nature cause is needed for a given effect? Ans: Nil. But it is convenient to burn down empirically based inductive reasoning in order to sustain a dominant ideology of our time, whether on materialistic or speculative theological grounds. On either case, one injects grand delusion and would undermine the basis for soundly and confidently operating in the world of our actual experiences. The incoherence should trip all sorts of warning flags. Likewise we see rebuttal attempts along the lines:
Ingest certain chemicals that affect the physical chemicals of the brain and you’ll see lots unicorns and not just black swans but purple and yellow ones.
I would respectively suggest that illusions like that are based on rearranging existing mental furniture. Material causal factors are never adequate to explain complex, information-rich functionally specific organisation. Again, we see a denial of the mind by substitution of the brain. The underlying problem is a refusal to recognise that computational signal processing (and interfering with it in usually ill advised ways) is simply not in the same category of entity as is the self-aware experience of rational or even delusional contemplation. Which is our first direct experience and the gateway through which we access the world we share. But, we have been indoctrinated not to see the obvious. And of course, the notion that a few chemicals in a pond or in a comet core etc got together and formed a self-replicating enzymatically active entity that evolved by incremental descent with modification through the wonders of natural selection is bound to come up. It is, after all the championed explanatory motif of the evolutionary materialists. The answer to this is the vera causa test: apart from gross ideologically contaminated extrapolation, has such blind chance and mechanical necessity bees shown by observation to be an actually adequate cause to form FSCO/I? No. But, the easy out is to then deny the existence of FSCO/I or pretend that an arbitrarily high burden of proof that it exists has not been met or even to suggest that this is an idiosyncratic notion not worth even entertaining. This is of course closed minded objectionism rooted in selective hyperskepticism. The very text of objecting comments suffices to show cases of FSCO/I as do the computers etc we are using and a world of technology all around. Not that such will faze the determined objector. Just, we will have to recognise what we are dealing with by way of a tangled web of fallacies. It's possible for all we know, under such circumstances, falls to the ground in the face of a bit of 2,000 year old Galilean peasant wisdom:
Matt 6:22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, 23 but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!
Time to think again. KFkairosfocus
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as to Bob at 4:
"Am I to take it that sound is in the same ontological category as thought? Or merely that chemicals are not involved in sound in any way?"
Sound has a much deeper, 'pre-chemistry', relationship to the origin of nature than you seem to realize.
Big Bang Sound Recording 'Remix' Created By Physicist - 04/04/2013 Excerpt: While you might think that because space is a vacuum the explosion of a singularity wouldn't make any sound at all, Cramer told QMI that "the Big Bang is the exception to this, because the medium that pervaded the universe in the first 100,000 years or so was far more dense than the atmosphere of the Earth." In other words, matter was so dense in the early Universe that it carried sounds waves in much the same way air does on Earth. http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/04/big-bang-sound-recording-john-cramer_n_3007975.html Photons and Phonons Excerpt: You see, the primary Planck-Law (E=hf) is metaphysical and independent on the inertia distribution of the solid states.,,, Both, photon and phonon carry massequivalent energy m=E/c2=hf/c2. The matter-light interaction so is rendered electromagnetically noninertial for the photon and becomes acoustically inertial for the phonons; both however subject to Bose-Einstein stochastic wave mechanics incorporative the Planck-Law.,, Where, how and why does E=hf correctly and experimentally verifiably describe the quantum mechanics of energy propagation?,,, http://www.tonyb.freeyellow.com/id135.html Phonon Excerpt: In physics, a phonon,, represents an excited state in the quantum mechanical quantization of the modes of vibrations,, The name phonon,, translates as sound or voice because long-wavelength phonons give rise to sound. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonon
semi related:
Engineers make sound (with high enough frequency) to bend light on a computer chip - Nov 26, 2014 Excerpt: "Our breakthrough is to integrate optical circuits in the same layer of material with acoustic devices in order to attain extreme strong interaction between light and sound waves,",, The researchers used the state-of-the-art nanofabrication technology to make arrays of electrodes with a width of only 100 nanometers (0.00001 centimeters) to excite sound waves at an unprecedented high frequency that is higher than 10 GHz, the frequency used for satellite communications. "What's remarkable is that at this high frequency, the wavelength of the sound is even shorter than the wavelength of light. This is achieved for the first time on a chip,",, They are investigating the interaction between single photons (the fundamental quantum unit of light) and single phonons (the fundamental quantum unit of sound). The researcher plan to use sound waves as the information carriers for quantum computing. http://phys.org/news/2014-11-loud-chip.html Evan Grant: Making sound visible through cymatics - video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsjV1gjBMbQ Sound waves precisely position nanowires - June 19. 2013 Excerpt: The smaller components become, the more difficult it is to create patterns in an economical and reproducible way, according to an interdisciplinary team of Penn State researchers who, using sound waves, can place nanowires in repeatable patterns for potential use in a variety of sensors, optoelectronics and nanoscale circuits. http://phys.org/news/2013-06-precisely-position-nanowires.html
Verse:
Genesis 1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
bornagain77
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And if Popperian were to yell, “False! You are committing inductivism,” we would think he is a loon.
Am I to take it that sound is in the same ontological category as thought? Or merely that chemicals are not involved in sound in any way?Bob O'H
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The chemicals sensed in smelling freshly cooked bread generate different thoughts than the chemicals sensed in smelling body odor, or tasting canned peaches (which invoke thoughts of what a good fresh peach tastes like.). Barry, sorry, but respectfully, this one is a miss.dgw
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Similarly, the physical chemicals in the brain are incapable of producing the mental images in the mind. There is a vast, unbridgeable ontological gulf between physical things and mental things. Therefore, we can rule out, in principle and a priori “chemicals” as a cause of “thoughts.”
Ingest certain chemicals that affect the physical chemicals of the brain and you'll see lots unicorns and not just black swans but purple and yellow ones.goodusername
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Hmmm. My computer is known to be a bunch of silicone, doping, gold wires and such -- plus a bit of electricity; yet it can play chess pretty well.bFast
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