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A science fiction writer explains why he thinks life is more than just matter

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Geoffrey Simmons, author of The Adam Experiment, points out that many animals and even bacteria show behavior that seems like thinking:

Robert J. Marks: We have been talking about your book, and I wanted to talk some more about it. You have one chapter, “The Thinking Piece” and another one, “The Memory Piece.” And in there, you trace from one-cell organisms to humans. Can you kind of unpack that and give us some examples that highlight these capabilities?

Geoffrey Simmons: I’d be glad to. As I mentioned a little earlier on the previous podcast, we do see animals and all kinds of organisms having some ability that smacks of thinking. And indeed you can expose bacteria to something scary and a light or anything like that and then show that to their offspring, which are not offspring in the sense that we think of it, and they will go away from it.

Note: In his recent book, Miracle of the Cell (2020), biochemist Michael Denton notes that cells can do a variety of things without anything like a brain. For example, gut pest E coli is “adept at counting molecules of specific sugars, amino acids, or dipeptides… comparing counts taken over the recent and not so recent past” (p. 17). Bacteria, deprived of food, can solve problems that have stumped computers —again, without a brain. We don’t know how they do it.

Geoffrey Simmons: Now, is that thinking or what is that? … We see that with a lot of problem-solving, monkeys using tools, monkeys using mechanisms to get places like a stick for a cane or through water, getting across a creek, in other words, problem-solving, coming up with something novel to solve a problem.

News, “Why a Science fiction writer thinks life is more than just matter” at Mind Matters News

Nature is full of intelligence. The researcher who is looking for a world that does not show intelligent design is looking for a different planet.

See also: Part I: Should robots, instead of humans, go into space? They might be better at life in space than humans. But could they be counselors too? Geoffrey Simmons, a retired internist and science fiction author, discusses genuine health risks for humans from long term space travel with Robert J. Marks.

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Seversky:
we have no compelling evidence of immaterial life
Doesn’t that depend on what you mean by ‘compelling’? (c) The true Scotsman fallacy.EugeneS
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Is life more than just matter? Doesn't that depend on what you mean by 'matter' and what you mean by 'life'? We no longer think of matter as being made of tiny lumps of solid stuff and when you look at viruses, for example, are they living or not?. Besides, does it even matter? Obviously, at some level, living things are material but we have no compelling evidence of immaterial life. Without that we are left with the option that life, like consciousness, arises from matter.Seversky
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A recent bit of research on insect vision finds that some insects use the polarization of light in parts of the sky as a 'compass' to check their current position and location. They store the parts of the map in a way that's calibrated by azimuth and altitude, just like a human navigator using a sextant or transit. Try to imagine how that ability could have 'evolved'. http://polistrasmill.blogspot.com/2020/10/another-amazing-navigational-sense.htmlpolistra
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I am watching a spider making its web in complete awe. The amount of complexity required and the fact that obviously it is all right there in that tiny creature is absolutely mind-blowing!Eugene
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