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A showdown in the “restaurant at the end of the universe”?

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In a recent article in the New York Times magazine, by Richard Panek, we read a very well written but surprisingly pessimistic assumption about what physicists can learn about the universe:

If so, such a development would presumably not be without philosophical consequences of the civilization-altering variety. Cosmologists often refer to this possibility as “the ultimate Copernican revolution”: not only are we not at the center of anything; we’re not even made of the same stuff as most of the rest of everything. “We’re just a bit of pollution,” Lawrence M. Krauss, a theorist at Case Western Reserve, said not long ago at a public panel on cosmology in Chicago. “If you got rid of us, and all the stars and all the galaxies and all the planets and all the aliens and everybody, then the universe would be largely the same. We’re completely irrelevant.”

All well and good. Science is full of homo sapiens-humbling insights. But the trade-off for these lessons in insignificance has always been that at least now we would have a deeper — simpler — understanding of the universe. That the more we could observe, the more we would know. But what about the less we could observe? What happens to new knowledge then? It’s a question cosmologists have been asking themselves lately, and it might well be a question we’ll all be asking ourselves soon, because if they’re right, then the time has come to rethink a fundamental assumption: When we look up at the night sky, we’re seeing the universe.

The article argues that the universe may well be stranger than scientists can ever hope to understand.

The article is even a bit negative about string theory (we live in one of zillions of meaningless universes connected by strings):

And this [string theory] is just one of a number of theories that have been popping into existence, quantum-particle-like, in the past few years: parallel universes, intersecting universes or, in the case of Stephen Hawking and Thomas Hertog just last summer, a superposition of universes. But what evidence — extraordinary or otherwise — can anyone offer for such claims?

They want evidence? How extraordinary. Makes a nice change though.

(Note: Yes, in case you noticed, the Lawrence Krauss quoted on the subject of “pollution r’ us” is one of the big anti- intelligent design guys. He is also down on string theory.)

It sounds, from the article, as though concepts like “dark matter” and “dark energy” must become more specific to provide useful information. This article is a must-read, though I don’t go along with the underlying pessimistic assumption that maybe our limited senses prevent us from understanding these things. That sounds like Darwinism talking, actually. You know the sort of thing: We are just evolved apes and can’t understand whatever is not in our genetic program to understand, including this problem.

Just think of all the areas of science that would not have got anywhere if the pioneers had taken such a view. That, incidentally, is why the Uncommon Descent blog’s rationale says

Materialistic ideology has subverted the study of biological and cosmological origins so that the actual content of these sciences has become corrupted. The problem, therefore, is not merely that science is being used illegitimately to promote a materialistic worldview, but that this worldview is actively undermining scientific inquiry, leading to incorrect and unsupported conclusions about biological and cosmological origins.

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To: Borne Why do we have to constantly consider ourselves as having greater (or lesser) value than others ? Surely we should simply be considerate of others (in our or other species), regardless of whether they have inherited 'value'. If I were forced to assign some degree of 'value' to another I would do it on the basis of what they had achieved by their own efforts, not according to status granted free (like an inherited title).OilBoy
March 18, 2007
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I've always liked Pascal's stuff. But there is a problem in his reasoning here. Rather it is incomplete. If thought (or even intelligence) is the basis of human dignity where will the insane, the comatose or trisomic find their worth? Darwinists have often tried to tell me that the value of human life is quantified and qualified by "superior intelligence". Of course. What else do they have? If we are truly "mere animals" and "share a common heritage with earth worms" the only answer is - Nothing. What is the basis of choosing intelligence as a value-of-life determinant? There is none. Trying to find such a basis under Darwinian terms leads to endless tautologies. Under Darwinism, intelligence itself is merely the circumstantial movement of non rational matter in the brain. There is no reason why humans should have more life value than worms under Darwinism. Indeed many Darwinists have even said so in the clearest of terms and actions. And whether they say so or not, it is a question of logical conclusions. Therefore, proclaiming thought or intelligence as the end all answer to the equation of life value is arbitrary at best. Something greater is required. Something of far more enduring stuff, like soul, like being made in the image of God. Otherwise, there is no such thing as human dignity. Dignity becomes merely a meme-ish illusion (yes another one) to get us to stop killing each other for survival's sake. Without this "something greater" there is no adequate basis for declaring human life of more value than that of an ape. Indeed, many people these days consider there pets more valuable than their neighbors.Borne
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Excellent, J. Thanks.TomG
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Blaise Pascal, Pensées:
Man is but a reed, the most feeble thing in nature; but he is a thinking reed. The entire universe need not arm itself to crush him. A vapour, a drop of water suffices to kill him. But, if the universe were to crush him, man would still be more noble than that which killed him, because he knows that he dies and the advantage which the universe has over him; the universe knows nothing of this. All our dignity consists, then, in thought. By it we must elevate ourselves, and not by space and time which we cannot fill. Let us endeavour, then, to think well; this is the principle of morality. A thinking reed.-- It is not from space that I must seek my dignity, but from the government of my thought. I shall have no more if I possess worlds. By space the universe encompasses and swallows me up like an atom; by thought I comprehend the world.
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“We’re just a bit of pollution.... If you got rid of us, and all the stars and all the galaxies and all the planets and all the aliens and everybody, then the universe would be largely the same. We’re completely irrelevant.”
Strange way of looking at things. Usually, being different and unique confers greater significance, not less. Sounds a lot more like a prejudice than a conclusion to me.TomG
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