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An Honest Presentation of the Evidence in our Public Schools

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Let’s face it, the reason Darwinian evolution is so controversial, especially in the public schools, is that it has profound implications concerning who we are, where we came from, and whether or not our lives have ultimate meaning and purpose. This is not the case in chemistry, physics or mathematics. Schoolchildren are not as unperceptive as some people would like to believe, and they pick up on these implications immediately, as my daughter did in the seventh grade.

Darwinian theory has been singled out for special scrutiny in public education not only for this reason, which should be enough, but because the evidence is not nearly as solid as it is in the hard sciences such as those mentioned above.

In a previous thread (https://uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/1514) I commented about the suppression of evidence and discussion concerning Darwinian theory in the public schools. I don’t advocate for the teaching of ID in the public schools, and I do agree that evolution has occurred. Things are not now as they once were, so “evolution” has taken place by definition — living things have changed over time. There is no substantive controversy here.

What I object to is an incomplete at best, and dishonest at worst, presentation of the evidence for Darwinian theory in public education. Here are some proposals for how the evidence could be more appropriately presented without “subverting science.” Perhaps commenters could add to the list, and I’d be curious as to why anyone would object to such an approach.

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Present the evidence of changing finch beaks with changing weather conditions, and talk about how some scientists propose that these changes can be extrapolated over long periods of time to explain the origin of completely new and different life forms. But also mention that these changes have been observed to be cyclic, and that some question the validity of extrapolating these minor changes to explain major biological innovation. Ditto for peppered moths.

Point out that bacteria develop antibiotic resistance through the evolutionary process of natural selection, but add that experiments with thousands of generations of bacteria subjected to harsh selection pressures have yet to produce a fundamentally new variety of bacteria.

Observe that scientists propose that the development of embryos suggests the recapitulation of evolutionary history, but point out that the similarities assumed in the past are not what they were once thought to be, and that the earliest stages of development are not the most similar.

Mention all the classic examples of transitional forms in the fossil record, but also mention that some prominent paleontologists (e.g., Gould and Eldredge) have questioned whether or not the overall fossil evidence supports the traditional view of Darwinian gradualism. Offer the incompleteness of the fossil record as a possible explanation, but observe that the seamless gradation of living forms predicted by Darwinian theory has yet to be conclusively established.

Discuss the Cambrian explosion. Offer the standard explanations for this remarkable phenomenon (incompleteness of the fossil record and the likelihood that soft-bodied predecessors would not fossilize), but also mention that some argue that the Cambrian explosion presents a problem for standard evolutionary theory because so many new body plans appear in such a short period of time, and this would seem to contradict the proposal that new body plans should originate in the leaves of the tree of life and not the trunk.

Mention the Miller-Urey experiment and the formation of amino acids by a natural process (after all, it is a classic event in the history of origin-of-life studies), but mention that scientists now believe that conditions on the early earth were not those used in the experiment, and that no concrete explanation has been offered for how those amino acids could have formed biologically meaningful proteins by undirected chemical means.

Talk about various origin-of-life theories and the fact that many scientists are confident that an explanation will eventually be found, but mention that the current state of affairs in origin-of-life studies is many mutually contradictory hypotheses, and that the origin of information in DNA is a particularly difficult problem.

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I don’t see why such an approach would be unreasonable at all, why students could not understand such a presentation of the evidence, why they would be confused by it, or why it would subvert science. Students could evaluate for themselves whether or not they find the evidence convincing, which should be their prerogative. After all, where they came from and why they are here is a very important matter.

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Zachriel, I said “limit Darwin’s ideas to the small area which it has merit and eliminate it from the speculative areas that are currently being taught.” and you said "The vast majority of biologists and other scientists working in related fields is that the Theory of Evolution is a strongly supported scientific explanation for the observed evidence and makes a strong empirical predictions in a wide variety of different scientific areas, from geology to genetics." Which is basically sophistry. Maybe you are new to this site but most of us agree with the idea that natural selection and genetics can explain a lot of micro-evolution. There is not much debate there though some will question some of the findings. However, for most of what this debate is about is macro-evolution, the evolution of novel things and origin of life. Here Darwin has no relevance as far as the evidence. What many do is conflate the evidence in micro-evolution as proof for these other areas of evolution. Are you doing that or do you have anything substantive to contribute in these other areas except to evoke the claim that experts believe it. So take the UD challenge and be the first supporter of Darwin to provide a defense of Darwin in these other areas. Or any other naturalistic mechanism you come up with. Despite the vast acceptance by biologists and the science community no one has yet been able to step up to the challenge. Be the first and if validated by the evidence you will be given a Nobel Prize for Science. If any scientist were able to do that, then that would be their prize. Does anyone doubt that?jerry
August 30, 2006
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"All I am trying to say is: don’t assume that public opinion is the correct way to set school curriculum." It is the correct way to set _public_ school curriculum. The fact is that what the "experts say" depends almost entirely on your choice of experts, does it not? If we used microbiologists from the discovery institute we'd get different standards than if we used microbiologists from the NCSE, with the same qualifications of people making the recommendations. "Why does public opinion rule the day on this one?" Very simple. Because the result arrives from assumptions which are not shared by the general public. Science is supposed to be a public endeavor. The public has decided to "audit the books" so to say, and has found that origins research has been writing checks that the data can't cash.johnnyb
August 30, 2006
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Joseph: "HOW we came into existence IS a scientific question." Quite so. And there is a methodology to science which can help answer this question. http://zachriel.blogspot.com/2005/08/scientific-method.html Joseph: "ID does not say anything about God." So ID can say nothing about any possible intention on His, er, the undesignated Designer's part. Joseph: "Through scientific investigation the authors have determined a purpose to our existence." 'Why' is an entirely different question than 'How'. So then, what is the scientifically determined purpose to human existence?Zachriel
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Jack Krebs: But there is a difference between no God and the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God of Christianity who is continually and creatively present in the world in ways that are beyond our limited human understanding. I don't care about christianity Jack. But you are corect- there is a difference. JK: So teaching that evolution, or any other natural phenomena, has elements of randomness or contingency is *** not *** teaching, either explicitly or implicitly, that the God of Christianity does not exist or that He has not been actively involved. ID does not say anything about God. You know that, right? It isn't that what is being taught has "elements or randomness or contingency", it is what is being taught is pure chance/ randomness, purposeless/ goal-less- IOW "sheer-dumb-luck". There was a paper signed by 38 Nobel Laureates that you should be familiar with. The following is a passage from that paper:
"Logically derived from confirmable evidence, evolution is understood to be the result of an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection."
How does Jack feel about the following: However if it were up to me- at this point in time I would present the two videos- “Unlocking the Mystery of Life” and “The Privileged Planet” to all students. Then set them free to attend regular classes.Joseph
August 30, 2006
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Again until we know what makes an organism what it is ANY "theory" of common descent is pure speculation. IOW that premise cannot be objectively tested. With evolutionism we are told there is no way to predict what will be selected for at any point in time. We also can't predict what mutations will occur. And given what we do know about proof reading and error correction to say "Genomic sequencing data proving that all differences between species are consistent with an accumulation of mutational change and testing predictions as to the degree of relatedness, the number of mutations separating species, the origins of major protein families in short-generation time origins, similarity of genetic code, etc., etc. is NOTHING but laughable nonsense. Also given what we do know pertaining to even the most beneficial mutation will be lost in a population as opposed to becoming fixed evolutionism just does NOT jive with the data. Then there is the fact that we don't even know if the changes required by evolutionism/ CD are even possible via any mechanism. Add to that the number of mutations that would not only have to occur but become fixed and evolutionism fails miserably. For example the genetic differences between chimp & human were once thought to be only 1%. Now we know it is greater than that and may even be greater than 10%. And that difference evolutionism can only overcome via a miracle.Joseph
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“The bottom line is it DOES matter. IF we are here via intent and purpose we will NEVER find out under the current paradigm. And IF science seeks to explain the reality to our existence then the current model is not only a detriment to science but to all who dwell on this planet. And if science doesn’t care about the reality to our existence then it is as worthless as the corn on my big toe.” KL: The bottom line is that, to science, it DOES NOT matter. Who are you to say that? KL: Science is not equipped to answer philosophical questions as why we exist and how we contemplate that existence. HOW KL- HOW we came into existence IS a scientific question. And no one, I repeat NO ONE, should put limitations on what science can and cannot do. KL: To use science in this way violates the strict requirements of scientific inquiry and cheapens the philosphical endeavor. Under the current scientific paradigm we will not discover the intent and purpose of our existence. Not under ANY scientific paradigm would this happen. Perhaps you should read "The Privileged Planet". Through scientific investigation the authors have determined a purpose to our existence.Joseph
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jerry: "Darwin’s ideas to the small area which it has merit and eliminate it from the speculative areas that are currently being taught." The vast majority of biologists and other scientists working in related fields is that the Theory of Evolution is a strongly supported scientific explanation for the observed evidence and makes a strong empirical predictions in a wide variety of different scientific areas, from geology to genetics. franky172: "Are you suggesting that the people digging for Tiktaalik just happened to be hanging out 600 km from the North Pole?" Lucky guess. (Tiktaalik has gills, scales, but the ribs and neck of a tetrapod, and legs and wrists which end in fins. Just happened to be in strata dated at 375 million years ago associated with tropical stream waters. Nested hierarchy stuff. Like I said — just a lucky guess.)Zachriel
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“Does this mean God doesn’t exist?” to which she received the reply, “Yes." Have you reported this biology teacher to her supervisors yet?franky172
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Darwinists stopped making predictions about the time it became evident that the prediction that the fossil record would eventually reveal a gradual story of small changes accumulating to produce large variation didn’t pan out. But feel free to point me to where these predictions were made prior to the observation confirming it if you can. Are you suggesting that the people digging for Tiktaalik just happened to be hanging out 600 km from the North Pole?franky172
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KL, On another thread I made a comment that some of what is taught in a lot of biology classes relative to evolution and Darwin is dishonest and proceeded to give an example that was on the internet. The dishonest example was by a well respected biologist at a very respected university. I also claimed that a lot of the text books used for biology in the US present information on evolution in a dishonest way. Why does this have to be done this way. You punted to the experts opinion where I can show you that what experts teach on this topic is often at best speculative. What a lot are saying here is that many of the ideas taught in high school and college biology courses on evolution have no scientific merit but yet they are taught anyway. This does not seem to concern you as you hide behind the so-called standards of experts which are questionable in this area. You say that high schools should not waste time on subjects that are speculative, then high school science teachers should limit Darwin's ideas to the small area which it has merit and eliminate it from the speculative areas that are currently being taught. This by your own words should be your objective. By the way some are trying to get evolution taught as early as kindergarten. Why? So you should support those here who want to change the current high school and grade school curriculum to eliminate the speculative science. If you don't supprt this effort then maybe some would have to question your true motives.jerry
August 30, 2006
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Josepsh wrote, "Jack Krebbs asks: 'More bluntly, why should a student see evolution as contradicting a belief in God?" Because there isn’t any difference between no “god” and a “god” who created via some blind watchmaker-type process." But there is a difference between no God and the omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent God of Christianity who is continually and creatively present in the world in ways that are beyond our limited human understanding. Simply put, what is chance to us is not chance to God. Just because we see something as as random, contingenct, or lucky doesn't mean that it was so to God. Consider a simple coin toss that comes up heads. This is the epitome of a random event to us. Did God know the coin was going to come up heads, or was the coin toss a random event to God also? Obviously the orthodox Christian answer would be that God knew that the coin would come up heads (because he is omniscient), and he could have had it come up differently if that was his Will (because he is omnipotent). So teaching that evolution, or any other natural phenomena, has elements of randomness or contingency is *** not *** teaching, either explicitly or implicitly, that the God of Christianity does not exist or that He has not been actively involved. P.S. Thanks to KL for all his comments about teaching. P.P.S. My name is Krebs, not Krebbs. A small point.Jack Krebs
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"Where the people want experts to dictate policy with the force of law, they legislate the requirement. More often experts are consulted on policy matters and the final decision carrying the force of law is left to others who may or may not follow the advice of the experts." Which is exactly my point. Why don't people want experts to set school curriculum? Why does public opinion rule the day on this one? Are people so sure that educators "conspire" to lead children astray and need to be reined in? Funny that some parents, who pay no tuition, want their political and religious issues to influence school curricula, while others, who pay thousands (above and beyond taxes that support other schools) trust their schools and faculty to make good choices. Why is that? A college development officer once told me that some donors give tens of thousands in unrestricted gifts, giving said college full power in how it is spent, but others expect to have a say in college policy and practice because they gave $50. Odd, but true. If a teacher does not follow the guidelines set by their "governing" organizations, then there is cause to be concerned. If a teacher tries to teach material outside their area (although, I think expressing political and religious opinions in science class isn't "teaching") then they should be dealt with. But no teacher should be asked to teach anything outside what is accepted by the professionals in their field. If ID has scientific merit, in another generation or so it will trickle down through organizations such as AAAS and NSTA to people like me (if I am still alive and in the classroom) along with guidelines, curriculum, standards, etc. Until then, KEEP IT OUT. The fuzzy edges of any theory in any science are not taught to kids. Issues still being debated about the mechanisms, pathways, etc in evolutionary theory are meaningless to kids who don't yet know the basics of biology, biochemistry, and genetics. They are not in high school long enough to build a sufficient platform to deal with the finer points in sciences; there is only a couple of years between early adolescence, when their math and abstract reasoning is still in its elementary stages, and graduation. They must fit basic Chemistry, Physics and Geology in there, as well as all the other disciplines. We don't yet do a good job of tying the various sciences together; science education in the US is largely segregated by discipline when an integrated approach makes much more sense. To waste any time on topics that are speculative is wrong. It's interesting how scientists on science blogs discuss frontline topics in evolutionary science, like HOX genes, information transfer between organisms, etc. Most of this is years away from being included in basic high school biology. Other sciences have similar leading edges that are still being worked out, but these also are not taught. Science educators stick to the basics, building the framework in students that, down the road, in college or beyond, will give them the tools they need for the advanced stuff. I don't engage myself in debating these advanced topics, as I have no expertise in these areas. I do find them fascinating. The only place my opinion matters at all is in my own area, secondary science education. Going to work now. My kids (gotta love them) are waiting. Please excuse me if this post shows up twice. I'm not sure it took.KL
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KL Where the people want experts to dictate policy with the force of law, they legislate the requirement. More often experts are consulted on policy matters and the final decision carrying the force of law is left to others who may or may not follow the advice of the experts. This system of government employed in the United States has been quite successful by almost any metric compared to any other system of government in the world. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.DaveScot
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"Perhaps your real problem is that you work in a government school, where attendance is mandatory for those without the means to choose a private school or the time & inclination to homeschool. Since most parents have little choice in the education their kids get, elected school boards are the only way they can express satisfaction or dissatisfaction with their kids’ education." Nope. I teach at an independent secondary school, private, owned by a church denomination. My administration and my students' parents, who pay a lot of $ for their kids to attend, expect me to to be a professional, and to do the best job I can according to the standards articulated by the organizations made up of people in the same field. I can't see why public school teachers (or "government" schools, as you put it) should be treated with less respect. Other professions have the same expectations. I don't see elected boards setting medical procedures and standards; I expect the AMA and related organizations do that. Why should teaching be any different? As far as being accused of feeling "superior", I don't. However, I have been an educator for a long time, and I have earned the right to my professional opinions on this matter. I would not have much confidence in my opinions on other matters. If fact, I don't try to claim expertise outside my own discipline. I certainly don't expect to tell my son's history teacher how to conduct his class or what text to choose. All I am trying to say is: don't assume that public opinion is the correct way to set school curriculum. If the public as a body has that kind of expertise, then the education of our children should be left entirely to them. Who need teachers? Doesn't that sound rather silly?KL
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Jack
More bluntly, why should a student see evolution as contradicting a belief in God?
Because evolution was primarly written to counter the arguement from design, postulated by Paley. In the sence, it is a creation account without the Creator. Of course, that will have mataphysical implications. The fact that there are theists who assume that one can have a belief in God and be an evolutionist doesn't change the inherent nature, and inttended goal of the Darwinian thesis. One should evaluate the sources and the evidence of the theory, not the people who believe in it.Mats
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I have a very simple, and perhaps simplistic, suggestion to teaching biology - teach biology, not an hypothetical history. Teach what constitutes a cell, how DNA is transcribed, how systems work, which amino acids form to make which proteins - teach the science, that which can be observed, measured and tested. When, and why, did it become mandated that a philosophical version of the history of those systems was part of biology? When you study physics you study laws, not the hypothetical origination of those laws. When you study chemistry you study components and reactions, not where somebody thinks chemicals came from.Charlie
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"I don’t think school boards made up of people elected by vote and working outside the teaching profession should determine curriculum or texts. I suspect that may be considered heresy by some; however, I believe that teachers should make those decisions. State-wide selections take the power away from teachers who should be making the decisions that best suit their own schools and students. I get guidance from scientists, college professors, state and national science teaching organizations, etc., not from the local hardware store owner, lawyer, politician or parent. There’s something about teaching school; although the public expects us to be well educated and well trained, ironically the public also thinks that they know best how to teach. No other profession is treated this way to this magnitude. Maybe it’s because we were all students once, therefore we can all imagine how teaching is done and consider it a simple task that anyone can do." - KL Perhaps your real problem is that you work in a government school, where attendance is mandatory for those without the means to choose a private school or the time & inclination to homeschool. Since most parents have little choice in the education their kids get, elected school boards are the only way they can express satisfaction or dissatisfaction with their kids' education. The meddling from non-experts is a necessary consequence of forcing kids to attend government schools. I'm sure most parents would be happy to leave the educational details to you if they knew they could go elsewhere when you started to underperform.russ
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I haven't had time to read the thread, but here is what I think would help -- just teach MORE BIOCHEMISTRY, and EARLIER. Period. End of story. Once you learn the current views of biochemistry, especially before you learn about Darwinism, Darwinism just looks dumb. You don't even need to teach anything against it -- just stand Darwinism next to biochemistry and Darwinism clearly loses. Teach transposons -- and their regulation. Teach the interaction of biochemical pathways. Teach the regulation of mutation. Teach the way that DNA is accurately copied. Do this _first_. Then teach evolution. Watch the kids laugh. That's all you need. More biochemistry. Teach it before evolution. Problem solved.johnnyb
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And my God, trrll. It just occured to me that physicians and surgeons aren't required to take any classes in evolution or swear they believe it before being allowed to diagnose, prescribe, and cut. Yet they somehow still get through medical school, residencies, and are allowed practice medicine. It's a miracle we aren't all dead for this egregious gap in the education of medical professionals. Oh the humanity! :lol:DaveScot
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trrll "You don’t choose a random person to fix your car" Correct. I fix it myself. The point is that the law doesn't require me to choose an expert to fix my car and the law doesn't require me to choose an expert to select the textbooks used in public schools. The law does require me to choose an expert to remove my appendix. So tell me, trrll, since a significant percentage of experts at removing appendixes don't believe in evolution by chance and necessity do you ask the physicians, surgeons, and other professionals who deliver your health care if they believe in evolution by chance and necessity before allowing them to touch you or is that not enough of a concern for you to ask? :razz:DaveScot
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"I think we can do better than just avoid “disasters”." And I encourage to vote according to your personal convictions! Just don't try to disenfranchise someone else's right to vote because you're convinced of your own superiority.DaveScot
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trrll I don't dispute common descent. All the evidence you site is in support of common descent and/or allele frequencies within the same species. Give me the empirical evidence supporting RANDOM mutation as the mechanism behind the generation of novel cell types, tissue types, organs, and body plans. Be sure to describe to me what tests were performed to discriminate between random and directed mutations. Also, I want to know where these so-called predictions were made. The way I've seen it play out in my lifetime is that observations are made and then an explanation of how RM+NS is responsible is carefully crafted to explain the observation. Darwinists stopped making predictions about the time it became evident that the prediction that the fossil record would eventually reveal a gradual story of small changes accumulating to produce large variation didn't pan out. But feel free to point me to where these predictions were made prior to the observation confirming it if you can.DaveScot
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Eric, You are right. I was way too generous. I repent.GilDodgen
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"Demonstrably, selection of public school textbooks by democracy rather than meritocracy has not led to any educational disasters." I think we can do better than just avoid "disasters".KL
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Gil, I think you are generally on the right track, but your presentation of the evidence still seems watered down and way too accommodating of traditional orthodoxy and old ideas. Two examples: "Present the evidence of changing finch beaks with changing weather conditions, and talk about how some scientists propose that these changes can be extrapolated over long periods of time to explain the origin of completely new and different life forms. But also mention that these changes have been observed to be cyclic, and that some question the validity of extrapolating these minor changes to explain major biological innovation. Ditto for peppered moths." Or perhaps discuss what can really be learned from these observations, rather than assumed. "Some question the validity . . ."? Perhaps students should be asked to grapple with the more basic question of whether it is even reasonable to extrapolate in the first place. Also, perhaps we could point out what I believe is the major takeaway from these observations (at least insofar as we are going to stick with the actual observed evidence, rather than proposing theoretical extrapolations), namely, that a number of species exibit the ability to temporarily adapt to changing conditions, *while ultimately resisting fundamental change.* "Point out that bacteria develop antibiotic resistance through the evolutionary process of natural selection, but add that experiments with thousands of generations of bacteria subjected to harsh selection pressures have yet to produce a fundamentally new variety of bacteria." ". . . develop resistance through the evolutionary process of natural selection . . ."? Possibly, but only as long as we ignore all pre-existing resistance within the population and as long as we also ignore all hypermutation mechanisms that the bacteria have to find a survival solution. Then we could ask students to determine whether the so-called "mechanism" of natural selection in fact has anything at all to do with resistance, and if so, in what cases and to what extent. We could also ask students to think about what would be required to develop a hypermutation mechanism. We could also point out essentially the same thing we saw with the finches and the moths: life appears designed to have the ability to temporarily adapt to natural stresses and changing conditions, while ultimately resisting fundamental change.Eric Anderson
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I find Jack Kreb's point specious. Textbook selection in Texas is accomplished by the state board of education. The members of the board get there by winning a popular vote. Texas ranks #24 in the Smartest State awards while states with comparable population numbers New York is #10 and California is #46. California is the only comparable state by size and demographics. New York doesn't have to deal with a high percentage of students who don't speak english as does Texas and California. Demonstrably, selection of public school textbooks by democracy rather than meritocracy has not led to any educational disasters.DaveScot
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Regardless of your desire to assign sole discretion of what gets taught in public school science classes to a majority of scientists that just isn’t how the system works. What you want in this is an aristocracy of sorts. That’s repulsive to me and many others who believe that every adult, regardless of who they are, gets an equal say in the matter. One person, one vote. It’s a good system. Embrace it.
One man, one vote is how we decide political questions, because we believe that an individual's right to have a say in his own governance trumps all concerns about his judgement or competence. But the fact that in this one area we have agreed to ignore the fact that people differ in their levels of knowledge, skill, experience, and overall competence does not mean that we should reduce all matters of fact and learning to the lowest common denominator. You don't choose a random person to fix your car or take out your appendix--you choose somebody with knowledge, experience, and skill. The term sometimes applied to that is not aristocracy, but meritocracy.trrll
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I don't live in Texas, but my folks do. I am free to select my own books, and I do so after careful review of the contents. A text is only one of many tools a teacher uses; many of my colleagues teach without texts, or teach with many texts. I don't think the textbook selection process in Texas is appropriate; I don't think school boards made up of people elected by vote and working outside the teaching profession should determine curriculum or texts. I suspect that may be considered heresy by some; however, I believe that teachers should make those decisions. State-wide selections take the power away from teachers who should be making the decisions that best suit their own schools and students. I get guidance from scientists, college professors, state and national science teaching organizations, etc., not from the local hardware store owner, lawyer, politician or parent. There's something about teaching school; although the public expects us to be well educated and well trained, ironically the public also thinks that they know best how to teach. No other profession is treated this way to this magnitude. Maybe it's because we were all students once, therefore we can all imagine how teaching is done and consider it a simple task that anyone can do.KL
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Evolution is an inference drawn primarily from the fossil record. It is not strictly a fact. I am hesitant to advocate teaching anything as fact that can’t be directly observed.
Evolution has not relied on the fossil record for decades; fossils are today a rather minor part of the evidence supporting the theory. And of course, science is all about things that cannot be directly observed. Subnuclear particles cannot be directly observed, the path of a photon cannot be directly observed, the gravitational field cannot be directly observed, the Schrodinger wave equation cannot be directly observed. The behavior of the earth's core cannot be directly observed. The list goes on and on.trrll
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Evolution via random mutation & natural selection is singled out because it is a dogmatic belief lacking empirical support.
Ah, but you see that simply is not true. There is an immense amount of empirical support, of exactly the same kind that supports the other theories I mentioned. Experimental and observation studies testing the predictions of the theory. Empirical support includes (but is by no means limited to): 1. Genomic sequencing data proving that all differences between species are consistent with an accumulation of mutational change and testing predictions as to the degree of relatedness, the number of mutations separating species, the origins of major protein families in short-generation time origins, similarity of genetic code, etc., etc. 2. Computer simulations of evolutionary mechanisms, demonstrating their power at finding novel solutions to problems, even solutions not known are anticipated by their programmers. 3. Studies of gene frequency and morphological change in the wild under conditions of selective pressure. 4. Chemical evolution studies in the laboratory, in which mutation/selection mechanisms have been used to evolve enzymes and ribozymes with novel activities in vitro. 5. Mutational studies demonstrating that fundamental mechanisms of gene regulation are conserved across species, as predicted by the theory. 6. An incredible track record of guiding biological research, which is the real reason why biologists continue to adhere to the theory--it is a tried and true recipe for success in the difficult business of making novel discoveries. 7. And of course, all of the old stuff, fossils, finches, &c. By scientific standards, evolution is one of the most extensively tested and confirmed theories in the history of science, surviving experimental tests that could not have even been conceived of by its founders. Any honest course in biology would have to convey this information.trrll
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