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William Dembski writes:

I am responding again to Jason Rosenhouse about his book The Failures of Mathematical Anti-Evolutionism. See my earlier posts here and here.

In Rosenhouse’s book, he claims that “natural selection serves as a conduit for transmitting environmental information into the genomes of organisms.” (p. 215) I addressed this claim briefly in my review, indicating that conservation of information shows it to be incomplete and inadequate, but essentially I referred him to technical work by me and colleagues on the topic. In his reply, he remains, as always, unpersuaded. So let me here give another go at explaining the role of the environment as a source of information for Darwinian evolution. As throughout this response, I’m addressing the unwashed middle.

Darwinian evolution depends on selection, variation, and replication working within an environment. How selection, variation, and replication play out, however, depends on the particulars of the environment. Take a simple example, one that Rosenhouse finds deeply convincing and emblematic for biological evolution, namely, Richard Dawkins’s famous METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL simulation (pp. 192–194 of Rosenhouse’s book). Dawkins imagines an environment consisting of sequences of 28 letters and spaces, random variations of those letters, and a fitness function that rewards sequences to the degree that they are close to (i.e., share letters with) the target sequence METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL. 

So What’s the Problem?

The problem is not with the letter sequences, their randomization, or even the activity of a fitness function in guiding such an evolutionary process, but the very choice of fitness function. Why did the environment happen to fixate on METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL and make evolution drive toward that sequence? Why not a totally random sequence? The whole point of this example is to suggest that evolution can produce something design-like (a meaningful phrase, in this case, from Shakespeare’s Hamlet) without the need for actual design. But most fitness functions would evolve toward random sequences of letters and spaces. So what’s the difference maker in the choice of fitness? If you will, what selects the fitness function that then selects for fitness in the evolutionary process? Well, leaving aside some sort of interventional design (and not all design needs to be interventional), it’s got to be the environment. 

But that’s the problem. What renders one environment an interesting source of evolutionary change given selection, variation, and replication but others uninteresting? Most environments, in fact, don’t lead to any interesting form of evolution. Consider Sol Spiegelman’s work on the evolution of polynucleotides in a replicase environment. One thing that makes real world biological evolution interesting, assuming it actually happens, is that it increases information in the items that are undergoing evolution. Yet Spiegelman demonstrated that even with selection, variation, and replication in play, information steadily decreased over the course of his experiment. Brian Goodwin, in his summary of Spiegelman’s work, highlights this point (How the Leopard Changed Its Spots, pp. 35–36):

In a classic experiment, Spiegelman in 1967 showed what happens to a molecular replicating system in a test tube, without any cellular organization around it. The replicating molecules (the nucleic acid templates) require an energy source, building blocks (i.e., nucleotide bases), and an enzyme to help the polymerization process that is involved in self-copying of the templates. Then away it goes, making more copies of the specific nucleotide sequences that define the initial templates. But the interesting result was that these initial templates did not stay the same; they were not accurately copied. They got shorter and shorter until they reached the minimal size compatible with the sequence retaining self-copying properties. And as they got shorter, the copying process went faster. So what happened with natural selection in a test tube: the shorter templates that copied themselves faster became more numerous, while the larger ones were gradually eliminated. This looks like Darwinian evolution in a test tube. But the interesting result was that this evolution went one way: toward greater simplicity.

Simple and Yet Profound

At issue here is a simple and yet profound point of logic that continually seems to elude Darwinists as they are urged to come to terms with how it can be that the environment is able to bring about the information that leads to any interesting form of evolution. And just to be clear, what makes evolution interesting is that it purports to build all the nifty biological systems that we see around us. But most forms of evolution, whether in a biology lab or on a computer mainframe, build nothing interesting. 

The logical point at issue here is one the philosopher John Stuart Mill described back in the 19th century. He called it the “method of difference” and laid it out in his System of Logic. According to this method, to discover which of a set of circumstances is responsible for an observed difference in outcomes requires identifying a circumstance that is present when the outcome occurs and absent when it doesn’t occur. An immediate corollary of this method is that common circumstances cannot explain a difference in outcomes

So if selection, variation, and replication operating within an environment can produce wildly different types of evolution (information increasing, information decreasing, interesting, uninteresting, engineering like, organismic like, etc.), then something else besides these factors needs to be in play. Conservation of information says that the difference maker is information built into the environment. 

In any case, the method of difference shows that such information cannot be reducible to Darwinian processes, which is to say, to selection, variation, and replication (because these are common to all forms of Darwinian evolution). Darwinists, needless to say, don’t like that conclusion. But they are nonetheless stuck with it. The logic is airtight and it means that their theory is fundamentally incomplete. For more on this, see my article with Bob Marks titled “Life’s Conservation Law” (especially section 8). 

Evolution News

Dembski’s conclusions are consistent with expectations from information theory and the generalized 2nd law of thermodynamics; namely, that natural processes cause a system to lose information over the passage of time. If an increase in information is seen in any system (such as life from non-life, or the appearance of novel, functional body plans or physiological systems), then natural processes cannot have been the cause. If not natural, then the increase in information must have come from an intelligent agent (the only known source of functional information).

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Caspian at 16, Why is it so hard to accept? Here are the alternatives: 1) Evolution through blind, unguided forces made all living things. 2) An Intelligent Designer designed all living things. 1) Is perfectly suited to the atheist. 2) Is not suited. It can't be accepted - ever. Admitting that living things are designed would overthrow the atheist view that all life, including human beings, appeared by accident. 'Richard Dawkins once said, “Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose.” (The Blind Watchmaker, 1996, p. 1)' Question: Do flowers and birds and dogs appear to be the end result of chance? Of blind, unguided forces?relatd
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AF @ 1: Like many others, you correctly surmise that the environment is a source of information, but unfortunately for evolutionary hopefuls, it is a woefully insufficient source of information. The non-living environment of the entire earth doesn't have enough information, even if in a counterfactual world it could all be concentrated into one reaction, to construct one bio-relevant protein, let alone an entire cell. This impotency of nature to generate functionally complex systems, is why we see evidence for intelligent design as the explanation for living things. Why is this apparently so hard to accept?Caspian
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Tonight on The Niche, Alan Fox uses his magic curtain to modify a living thing over a million years! Really! Trust us! It happened - and uh... no one saw it happen but uh... somehow, maybe...relatd
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Forgot the niche again. Remember the niche, Leto, remember the niche.Alan Fox
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AF at 12, Here's the formula: Life starts, a mindless process accidentally adds modifications, plus billions of years. Not even a joke, just a magical curtain that hides the way anything really happened regarding the development of life. Not credible at all. Regulatory genes magically appear and "know" how to function. Gene switches also have the correct function, again, by magic. HOX genes also know how to fit right in. To all reading. We are being presented with a magic formula. A formula where blind, unguided chance builds complex living things by magic. Not credible.relatd
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They [organs and body plans] were new at one time.
Not really. All the heavy lifting is done in the first two billion (that's two thousand million) years of evolution following the emergence of life on Earth. Once you have eukaryotic cells, sex and multicellularity, it becomes a question of regulatory genes, gene switches, HOX genes. Look up Evo-devo (evolutionary developmental biology).Alan Fox
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"At issue here is a simple and yet profound point of logic that continually seems to elude Darwinists..." Ultimately, everyone chooses what they want to believe and Darwinists choose to believe "something comes from nothing" even though there is no evidence of this in the real world of cause of an effect, thermodynamics, and E=mc2. Something coming from nothing can't even be imagined for as soon as one imagines something from nothing, one's brain begins to imagine that "nothing" really is "something": a "law", a "force", a fluctuation, a chance, a green fairy...really anything but an Intelligent Creator will do. It's not that the logic eludes them, it's that their mind is made up and their eyes are shut to the evidence all around them: "We don't know how it all started and may never know, but we're sure it wasn't God."Red Reader
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Evolution does whatever it wants whenever it wants and has no goals. It is incapable of long-term planning. The "environment" had better have the right food, the right weather and the right type of shelter - right now. The fiction that some environment somewhere just happens to be the right fit is fiction. A made up story. An organism is born in the wrong environment and the right environment is hundreds of miles away or a change of season triggers a mass migration. How did the birds, for example, know where to go? Nobody/Evolution gave them a map? They got there by accident? Every year? https://earthsky.org/earth/which-bird-migrates-the-farthest/relatd
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Alan Fox: All empirical observations of evolutionary processes indicate that information is lost, never gained. Antibacterial resistance? Loss of information. Polar bears? Loss of information. And so forth. There is no magic repository of environmental information waiting for evolution to open and pull out goodies.OldArmy94
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"Organs and bodyplans are never new.: AF, They were new at one time. Andrewasauber
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I don't believe your claims. Everything happened through accidents followed by more accidents involving a process with no goals. Baloney.relatd
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The environment provides exactly what kind of information? To make a novel organ? Or body plan?
Organs and bodyplans are never new. We humans are doughnuts with excrescences, topologically speaking. (Look up deuterostomes if you don't believe me).Alan Fox
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The environment provides exactly what kind of information? To make a novel organ? Or body plan?relatd
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Exactly? Exactly what?
Exactly what Jason Rosenhouse wrote. To assist you, I quoted it.Alan Fox
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AF at 1, The environment provides exactly what kind of information? To make a novel organ? Or body plan? AF at 2, Exactly? Exactly what?relatd
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In Rosenhouse’s book, he claims that “natural selection serves as a conduit for transmitting environmental information into the genomes of organisms.” (p. 215)
Exactly.Alan Fox
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The environment is a source of information. It is the non-random information that selection feeds on.Alan Fox
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