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Michael Egnor: A common argument as to why abortion is generally ethical is that the unborn child cannot reason:

But human life is a continuum precisely because every stage of human life — from zygote to senescence — is human. A zygote is just as much a human being as you and I are. You and I were just as much human beings when we were zygotes as we are now, and we will be just as much human beings when we are on our deathbeds as we are now.

Children in the womb at every stage are certainly human beings, just as we all are. Human life is a developmental process of actualization of potencies. We grow, physically, mentally, and spiritually. No one is less than human just because of age or stage of development or ratios of potency to actuality.

We are all human beings at every stage of life. Whether we are “persons” or not depends on the reigning moral and legal definition of “persons.” The moral quandary — the agonizing and contentious moral quandary in the abortion debate — is not whether zygotes or embryos or fetuses or newborns are human beings (they are), but whether they are persons worthy of respect and protection.

Michael Egnor, “Must we be able to reason to be thought of as human persons?” at Mind Matters News (May 15, 2022)

Takehome: Reason is a natural quality of the human being but, like everything in nature, it develops in stages. One can’t say it doesn’t exist when undeveloped.

You may also wish to read: Do babies really feel pain before they are self-aware? Michael Egnor discusses the fact that the thalamus, deep in the brain, creates pain. The cortex moderates it. Thus, juveniles may suffer more. Jonathan Wells recalls, from when he was a lab technologist, how very premature infants would scream when he took a drop of blood for tests.

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Michael Egnor: If it’s alive, it has a soul. Are they all eternal I wonder? In the afterlife do you bump into the souls of trees and dinosaurs and trilobites and all the chickens raised to be slaughtered and made into chicken nuggets and all the bacteria that ever lived? I wonder if some of them are sore about the development of antibiotics. If viruses are only sort-of alive do they have sort-of souls?JVL
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Egner writes, " Perhaps the most common justification that abortion proponents give for supporting abortion is that the human embryo or fetus isn’t capable of rational thought — and rational thought is the defining characteristic of humanity. That is not a common argument: I don't think that is an argument used at all. Where did Egner get that idea? He also writes, "All living things have souls, because “soul” is defined as the characteristics that make them alive. The specific array of abilities and possibilities a living thing has determines what species of living thing it is. A tree has different abilities and possibilities than a man has. So Coyne is wrong to say “there’s no evidence [a zygote] has a soul”. If it’s alive, it has a soul." I don't think this is a common idea either. Trees have souls? That might be an Aristotelian idea but it certainly isn't a common idea in the world today.Viola Lee
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Aristotle, Confucius, Siddhartha Gautama and the author of Ecclesiastes all addressed that within the same time frame 550-350 BC.Silver Asiatic
May 16, 2022
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Thoughts: What is a human being? An accident of cosmos formation, life emergence and a particular accidental collection of molecules forming a body? Can that account for rational, responsible, significantly free mind as general potential and/or as expressed in the course of living? If not -- and credibly it cannot [we need an oracle to work with the bodily cybernetic loop] -- then the suggested paradigm becomes self referential, incoherent and self discrediting by self falsification. So, we need a fresh paradigm, one that extends Turing's oracle concept to a two tier controller for the cybernetic loop. This breaks out of GIGO and the inherently non free, non rational nature of dynamic stochastic computation. But, it opens the world of freedom, common sense and judgement. KFkairosfocus
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