After all of these years of debating materialists one might think that I am inured to the silly things they say, but the depths of casuistry they will plumb in defense of the indefensible still has the capacity to amaze. Consider my last post in which I used the holocaust as an example of obvious evil.
Graham2 pushes back:
How is objective morality communicated to us ? Writing in the sky ? Voices in the head ? Barry seems to think ‘its obvious’
Suppose you were the only person in the world who believed the holocaust was evil. Would you be right and everyone else wrong?
Barry: That is more or less my point. You cant tell.
No, Graham2, yes you can tell. And if you say you can’t tell you are lying, to me, to yourself, and to everyone else reading your comment. You cannot not know that the holocaust was evil. It is self-evident.
I will leave you with two other comments from the thread upon which you would do well to reflect:
You cannot argue others out of their denial of the obvious or the necessary. IMO, the only thing that can help them at that point is a change of heart – a free will choice to believe differently.
William J. Murray
One can show that truly foundational premises or principles are such that to deny them is to end in absurdity; they are self evident. Those who choose to cling to absurdity after correction, we can only expose, ring-fence and seek to protect ourselves from. And, we can look at the systems that lead people into such confusion and ring fence them too as utterly destructive.