Ben Stein’s “Expelled”: A Little Background

Excellent overview. This will make a great introduction for interested persons who've yet to become firmly entrenched in their positions. Charlie

"Until then, I will be happy with texts which simply acknowledge that the idea that the survival of the fittest can turn bacteria into giraffes, and cause human consciousness to arise out of inanimate matter, is doubted by some scientists." I personally would prefer a stronger statement. "Until then, I will be happy with texts which simply acknowledge that the idea that the survival of the fittest can turn bacteria into giraffes, and cause human consciousness to arise out of inanimate matter, lacks the empirical support that is necessary in any other scientific endeavor." It could probably be made even stronger. While I support and applaud the efforts to make ID a science, it is the anti-Darwinian evidence for macro evolution that is the heart of our argument. It is this that should be taught in the schools and let the students come to their own decisions. Apparently the Kansas science standards allow discussion. Suppose one discussion was this "that Darwinian macro evolution does not meet the tenets set by Kansas Science standards." It would be interesting to see where this led in the classroom in Kansas or in any other state in the country. The two letter word, ID, does not have to be mentioned. jerry