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Breaking: Prominent science journal offers rational assessment of an unhinged climate claim


Cat Thermometer Specifically, the claim that global warming promotes violence. From the editors of Nature:

Such retrospective analyses raise two questions related to cause and effect: did climate change alter the weather? And did the change in the weather provoke the conflict? Only a solid yes to both can justify bold statements that global warming promotes violence — and establishing this answer is difficult, if not impossible, in many cases.

That hasn’t stopped such controversial claims being made. A decade ago, the United Nations went as far as to state that climate warming and desertification were one of the causes of the Darfur conflict in Sudan, which started in 2003 and led to the deaths of up to half a million people over five years of revolt. That daring claim, based on sketchy information, met with harsh criticism and outright disbelief from researchers familiar with the region. But it also triggered growing interest in climate–conflict research.

The study, published in Nature Climate Change, states what critics have long suspected: conclusions that climate change is triggering violent conflict cannot be generalized, and are hard to substantiate even in individual cases (C. Adams et al. Nature Clim. Change http://doi.org/ckfw; 2018). Researchers are drawn to regions that experience violence, rather than to those where climate change is most severe, they write. More.

Just acknowledging how much of the climate a-crock-alypse is fuelled by biases, political and otherwise, is a good start.

See also: At the Guardian: A big problem with murky science journals is that they publish climate deniers

Evolution is a Fact; So is Climate Change


Bill Nye would criminalize dissent from human-caused global warming claims.

polistra at 4: Extreme cold can cause violence too. Strange things done in the midnight sun by the men who moil for gold... etc. Extremes of many kinds do that. News
And what about the Climate Control System in your (used) BMW? Do you have to wait 30 years for it to work? BADUMP Goodnight, everyone! Andrew asauber
In fact, Evolution and Climate share the same basic mechanism: Waiting. Wait long enough and Presto! What you thought was weather has become Climate! ... Wait long enough and Poof! That thing you thought was a blob of protoplasm is now a Professor at University! Andrew asauber
unusual heat
polistra, What's "unusual" heat? Andrew asauber
I wouldn't call this unhinged. It's a valid observation. Heat, especially unusual heat, causes more violence. The missing hinge is the OTHER end of the climate causation chain, with the completely disproved theory that CO2 causes our current somewhat unusual weather. polistra
Atheistic religion: Climate change is Noah's Ark. Evolution is The Book of Genesis. asauber, Actually, unlike Climate which is historical (even if inaccurate), Natural Selection is supposed to be a process, hence demonstrably false: http://nonlin.org/natural-selection/ Nonlin.org
You had me at: "Prominent science journal offers rational assessment" ScuzzaMan
This all goes back to a fundamental problem with the concept of climate change. There's only one system to study. The real-time weather system. Climate is just a way to arrange statistics about the weather system. Climate doesn't have any power and can't affect anything. It's an idea. Kinda like Natural Selection. You can get all kinds of scary and amazing stories going with these imaginary foundations. It shouldn't be surprising that people try to get over on each other with them, especially in the Age Of Lies we are living in. Andrew asauber

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