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Christopher Hitchens is nothing if not a straight-shooter. He calls it like he sees it, and not even a vicious attack could stop him from denouncing evil, racist ideologies that are still with us today. He is also a fearless and formidable debater. In recent years, he has declared himself an anti-theist, a term he defines as follows:

You could be an atheist and wish that the belief was true. You could; I know some people who do. An antitheist, a term I’m trying to get into circulation, is someone who’s very relieved that there’s no evidence for this proposition.

On Bastille Day in 2007, in response to an article entitled What Atheists Can’t Answer by op-ed columnist Michael Gerson in The Washington Post, Christopher Hitchens threw down the gauntlet to theists:

Here is my challenge. Let Gerson name one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever. And here is my second challenge. Can any reader of this column think of a wicked statement made, or an evil action performed, precisely because of religious faith? The second question is easy to answer, is it not? The first – I have been asking it for some time – awaits a convincing reply. By what right, then, do the faithful assume this irritating mantle of righteousness? They have as much to apologize for as to explain.

Hitchens has repeated this challenge on numerous occasions since then. The first time I heard him issue this challenge, I thought: “He has a point.” Going through the Ten Commandments (a natural starting point for someone raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition), it seemed to me that the only ones that a nonbeliever couldn’t keep were the ones relating to the worship of God. But Christopher Hitchens might reasonably object that if religious belief only makes believers more ethical in the way they relate to God, then it has no practical moral value. Surely, if God exists, then the belief that God is real should also infuse a deeper meaning into our interactions with other people. For the belief that God is real is meant to transform the way in which we think about and act towards others. In that case, there should be ethical actions directed at other human beings that a believer can perform, and that a nonbeliever cannot.

Christopher Hitchens has been criticized before for failing to provide a secular justification for his moral beliefs, and for waffling on the subject of free will. I will not rehash those criticisms here. Instead I will throw the floor open, and invite submissions from readers in answer to the following question:

Can you name an ethical action directed at other human beings, that a believer could perform, and that a nonbeliever could not?

To help readers along, I’ll make my question more focused. Let’s call it “Christopher’s Challenge”:

Can you name an ethical action directed at Christopher Hitchens, that a believer could perform, and that a nonbeliever could not?

I’m deeply ashamed to say that it took me two whole weeks to think of the answer to this question, and then I kicked myself hard for not having thought of it sooner. But I confidently predict that someone reading this post will come up with the answer within 24 hours.

Answers, anyone?

Update on Professor Feser’s response to my post

(By the way, I would like to thank Professor Edward Feser for his lengthy and detailed reply to my post, and I would like to add that I deeply respect his passion for truth. Professor Feser and I have a somewhat different understanding of Thomist metaphysics and how it should be interpreted in the 21st century, and I would also disagree with his bold claim that even if scientists one day managed to synthesize a life-form from scratch in a lab, that life-form would not be an artifact. But in the meantime, I would like to draw readers’ attention to a remark Professor Feser made in his post, “Intelligent Design” theory and mechanism, on 10 April 2010:

Perhaps the biological world God creates works according to Darwinian principles; and perhaps not.

Those were incautious words, and I believe they betray a profound misunderstanding of what Aquinas wrote on the Creation. In a forthcoming post, I will demonstrate that Aquinas would never have accepted the Darwinian account of how evolution is supposed to work, even if he had known then what we know now. I will also show that according to Aquinas, certain life-forms cannot be generated from non-living matter by any kind of natural process, even in a universe sustained by God, and rife with final causes. Stay tuned!)

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Well I heard of a Jehovah's Witness, who was in the Nazi concentration camps and was raped by two SS guards. After the holocaust she studied the bible with at least one of them and converted him. This has been repeated around the world by news agencies. She said it was very difficult for her. What atheist would do that? I think the question, "Can you name an ethical action directed at other human beings, that a believer could perform, and that a nonbeliever could not?" is framed wrong! This question makes implications that atheism and religiousity (or Christianity) produces equally moral people. As long as we are free moral agents, anyone can mimic an action. That doesn't mean they have heart! They can do the exact same thing but with ulterior motives. Of course atheists can also have sincere, noble motives. THE REAL QUESTION IS, does being religious better PREDISPOSES a person to be ethical or moral? Many people, including Christians, if they felt that they could ultimately get away with something they would do it if there was enough pressure on them. However, the concious of the Christian will do the right thing because of spiritual obligation much more often than a non-believer especially when doing so is clearly at the person's extreme disadvantage. Christians make sacrifices all the time that go against their core nature. This doesn't mean that atheists don't make sacrifices, it means that atheists under very excruciating circumstances will be less likely to STICK TO HIGH MORAL PRINCIPLES or values when the opportunity arises. When the question is reframed it is not so hard to see the difference!jacobpressures
April 19, 2010
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Seversky, believe it or not the Bible addresses the points you make in Post 19.tribune7
April 19, 2010
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I suspect that Hitchens would not consider actions, such as prayer or last rites, toward what he considers to be a non-existent entity to qualify as either ethical or unethical.
This is true. When W.L. Craig answered his challenge, saying it was trivially easy to do so, Hitchens just said he didn't believe Craig was describing a moral action. He gets to pose the challenge and he gets to determine what counts as an answer ... we see this pattern so often.Charlie
April 19, 2010
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deric davidson writes (38):
Non-believers by definition cannot believe in an absolute moral standard
The Objectivists would disagree with you. I don't find their philosophy as bullet proof as they do, but they do claim to have an absolute moral standard. This is a very interesting topic. I look forward to reading vjtorley's answer to Hitchens. Thus far the answers all seem to rely on the assumption of theism. I suspect that Hitchens would not consider actions, such as prayer or last rites, toward what he considers to be a non-existent entity to qualify as either ethical or unethical.Pan Narrans
April 19, 2010
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Believers subscribe to an absolute moral standard which cannot be compromised by personal views of moral behaviour. Non-believers by definition cannot believe in an absolute moral standard and would have to accept that their moral standard can only be what they think is right and wrong and not necssarily what others may think is right and wrong. Theirs can be a "relative" morality only. There may be for many atheists a coincidence of their standard with the absolute standard set by believers but they cannot believe theirs is an externally imposed absolute standard and therefore absolutely and uncompromisingly correct. On moral issues atheists can pick and choose and change if needs be believers cannot.deric davidson
April 19, 2010
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Allen, VJ asked a very specific and useful question. It suddenly occurred to me that, especially in some faiths, only a believer (but not just any believer) can administer sacraments. A highly ethical action with highly ethical intent.Charlie
April 19, 2010
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In addition to Number 9, I think an argument could be made that one such ethical action would be the worship of God in spirit and truth. John Piper says it like this: "From a biblical standpoint studying and thinking and knowing are never ends in themselves; they always stand in the service of feeling and willing and doing. The mind is the servant of the heart. Knowledge exists for the sake of love. And all theology worth its salt produces doxology [worship]."thejbomb
April 19, 2010
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So far I have not seen any convincing answer to vj's query (one that would be convincing to someone who had not already taken a position on the question anyway), so perhaps it would help to ask it another way: Is the fact that someone is an atheist or a Christian (or whatever kind of believer one would like to specify) relevant to deciding if someone's actions and/or intentions are ethical or not? What if one could only observe the behavior, without knowing what the beliefs or intentions of the person performing the behavior were (as in the case of Heinlein's hobo)?Allen_MacNeill
April 19, 2010
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If Christianity was based on ethical actions, then this would be a valid question by Hitchens, but since it is not, and since he is lowering the standards of ethics based on atheism, then I don't see the point of entertaining this question. All of the obvious answers in which Christians would suffer would be made irrelevant by Hitchens. I have never known or heard of an atheist that is ethical according to Christian standards, though possibe according to secular standards. But if I had to answer the question, it would be that the sphere of atheism reflects an image of dishonesty - intellectual, moral or both. Therefore, a claim of honesty, either moral or intellectual, by an atheist is a logical paradox.jexilem
April 19, 2010
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I challenge Mr. Hitchens to demonstrate how the failure to meet his challenge proves anything about God. But to answer one part: No, no man, motivated by religious faith, has said or done wickedly, because every man believes that what is done according to his own religious faith is good. Now it is certainly true that some men have done out of religious faith things which other men regard as wicked; but this proves only that we disagree about religion and wickedness, and proves zilch about God. It is also true that some men, pretending to some religious faith, have done wickedly; but that is not at issue here.EvilSnack
April 19, 2010
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For Christopher Hitchens (who is presumably not here to defend himself or answer questions): I must confess that I don't understand the importance of his challenge. Having spent a lot of time talking with friends who are atheists, and some of them of the very strong variety, it seems to me that the question of atheists and ethics is not: "Can an atheist be good (i.e. think ethical thoughts; make ethical statements; perform ethical actions)" but rather: "Is an atheist justified in believing that they are thinking ethical thoughts, making ethical statments and performing ethical actions?" The answer to that latter question seems to hinge on what you think ethics is. In a materialist/mechanistic universe, there cannot be independently ethical thoughts/statements/acts; there can only be the movements of atoms in particular regions of space that correlate to what we call human brains, and so on. I don't think atheists are justified in claiming for themselves ethical thoughts/statements/acts in such a universe. Such an ethics would be a nonsense, as it would be sans free will.Spiny Norman
April 19, 2010
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@Allen_MacNeill @11: You covered two important factors in ethics (statements and actions) however I believe that both of these are subservient to the most important factor in ethics: intent. A person (atheist or theist) can make ethical statements and yet these statements could be lies (e.g. "We should all love one another" may be a true statement, yet the speaker may be lying in the sense that they do not believe the statement to be true). Such a person may also perform ethical acts (e.g. laying down their life for another person) and yet do so from false reasons (e.g. they may believe that they will be rescued at the last minute and thus win fame and fortune, and then find that this belief is false; thus they die for another, but for selfish reasons, however to onlookers it seems that they have behaved selflessly). I suspect that this is why Christ paid so much attention not to statements and behaviours (e.g. the Pharisees devotion to the law) but rather the intentions of the heart ... something which only God knows.Spiny Norman
April 19, 2010
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There's something that troubles me about Christopher Hitchens approach to this matter. Wanting us to 'prove' something about what he would define, no doubt, as the consequences of a particular malady (which he would prefer was ended quickly), but according to Christianity, God's grace and mercy is bestowed on everyone - we all benefit from His goodness and we all are aware of certain things because of the way we have been fashioned - these truths clearly impact upon us, but Mr Hitchens, it seems, wishes us to look at such issues through a far narrower portal than we should. The reality is that God can work where He wishes amongst us, so to seek to label a particular deed or act can, in fact, amount to little more than a case of missing the wood from the trees. Let's be honest, whatever example is given will no doubt be quickly dismissed by Christopher and Co - what is needed is a deep unsettling in our lives (of the kind incidentally encountered by his brother, Peter, as shown in his book, 'The Rage Against God')- that we are dealing with truths which we simply cannot escape. I hope that something of this nature truly troubles us as we view our troubling existence amidst this astonishing order.howard
April 19, 2010
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Hitchens rejects praying for his soul as an ethical act. He doesn't want anyone praying for his soul anyway -- he thinks it's a waste of time, and thus there is nothing ethical about it, especially if it is being done against his expressed wishes. As for being kind to those who are killing you or torturing you -- Hitchens would merely point out that the ethical thing to do in such a situation would be to do everything in your power to stop them from doing it to you and anyone else--killing them if necessary. He argues (with some merit, I think) that there is nothing ethical about being nice to evil people who are in the process of committing terrible crimes on other. (I have watched enough of his debates to know how he responds to these types of answers to his challenge.) And in the rare cases where kind words and deeds might be useful for getting out of a terrible situation---like a kidnapping victim---there is nothing to stop an atheist from using such tactics either.tyke
April 19, 2010
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Sooner Emeritus
There are strong similarities in the ethical teachings of Gautama Buddha and those of Jesus. The Buddha lived 400-500 years before Jesus did, and was atheistic. Palestine was anything but isolated from India before and during Jesus’ lifetime.
Students of popular science, like Mr. Blatchford, are always insisting that Christianity and Buddhism are very much alike, especially Buddhism. This is generally believed, and I believed it myself until I read a book giving the reasons for it. The reasons were of two kinds: resemblances that meant nothing because they were common to all humanity, and resemblances which were not resemblances at all. The author solemnly explained that the two creeds were alike in things in which all creeds are alike, or else he described them as alike in some point in which they are quite obviously different. Thus, as a case of the first class, he said that both Christ and Buddha were called by the divine voice coming out of the sky, as if you would expect the divine voice to come out of the coal-cellar. Or, again, it was gravely urged that these two Eastern teachers, by a singular coincidence, both had to do with the washing of feet. You might as well say that it was a remarkable coincidence that they both had feet to wash. And the other class of similarities were those which simply were not similar. Thus this reconciler of the two religions draws earnest attention to the fact that at certain religious feasts the robe of the Lama is rent in pieces out of respect, and the remnants highly valued. But this is the reverse of a resemblance, for the garments of Christ were not rent in pieces out of respect, but out of derision; and the remnants were not highly valued except for what they would fetch in the rag shops. It is rather like alluding to the obvious connection between the two ceremonies of the sword: when it taps a man's shoulder, and when it cuts off his head. It is not at all similar for the man. These scraps of puerile pedantry would indeed matter little if it were not also true that the alleged philosophical resemblances are also of these two kinds, either proving too much or not proving anything. That Buddhism approves of mercy or of self-restraint is not to say that it is specially like Christianity; it is only to say that it is not utterly unlike all human existence. Buddhists disapprove in theory of cruelty or excess because all sane human beings disapprove in theory of cruelty or excess. But to say that Buddhism and Christianity give the same philosophy of these things is simply false. All humanity does agree that we are in a net of sin. Most of humanity agrees that there is some way out. But as to what is the way out, I do not think that there are two institutions in the universe which contradict each other so flatly as Buddhism and Christianity. It is just here that Buddhism is on the side of modern pantheism and immanence. And it is just here that Christianity is on the side of humanity and liberty and love. Love desires personality; therefore love desires division. It is the instinct of Christianity to be glad that God has broken the universe into little pieces, because they are living pieces. It is her instinct to say "little children love one another" rather than to tell one large person to love himself. This is the intellectual abyss between Buddhism and Christianity; that for the Buddhist or Theosophist personality is the fall of man, for the Christian it is the purpose of God, the whole point of his cosmic idea. The world-soul of the Theosophists asks man to love it only in order that man may throw himself into it. But the divine centre of Christianity actually threw man out of it in order that he might love it. The oriental deity is like a giant who should have lost his leg or hand and be always seeking to find it; but the Christian power is like some giant who in a strange generosity should cut off his right hand, so that it might of its own accord shake hands with him. We come back to the same tireless note touching the nature of Christianity; all modern philosophies are chains which connect and fetter; Christianity is a sword which separates and sets free. No other philosophy makes God actually rejoice in the separation of the universe into living souls. But according to orthodox Christianity this separation between God and man is sacred, because this is eternal. That a man may love God it is necessary that there should be not only a God to be loved, but a man to love him. ~G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy.Clive Hayden
April 18, 2010
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What can a believer do that an atheist can't? All manner of things. But I'll give one in particular here: Care for someone's spiritual, rather than material well-being. For a materialist atheist, there is no 'spiritual' well-being. There is no actual, real, fundamental and objective good to pursue whatsoever. There are, at best, shoddy stand-ins. Personal likes and dislikes. Cultural and conventional likes and dislikes. In other words, if the theist/non-materialist is correct, then they can do and pursue things - even with and toward others - that no consistent materialist atheist is capable of. (Incidentally, I specify 'materialist' atheist here precisely because A) That's the most common type of atheist in these discussions, and B) To make them distinct from a non-materialist atheist - say, one who may insist that objective moral standards do exist, that spiritual goods do exist, while rejecting the existence of God. However, I'd also maintain that calling someone who believes in those things an 'atheist' is itself a claim open to serious argument. A pantheist or panentheist, example, is not really an atheist in an ultimate sense. And if classical theists are correct in God being identical to goodness itself, to believe in 'goodness' is to believe in God - and yes, that is another argument-laden topic.) I'd also throw out the following challenge, which I hope may illustrate another one of the problems with Hitchens' challenge as I see it: "Name an ethical action directed at other human beings that a committed nihilist could not perform that a non-nihilist could." Aside from the example I just gave, I think you're going to find it hard to come up with an act a nihilist could not do that a non-nihilist could. But that leads to two possible results. A) One could take take nihilism as therefore not posing a problem for morality or ethics, which is a curious conclusion to say the least. or B) One could argue that while a nihilist may be hypothetically capable of all these (in essence, merely mechanical) acts, nevertheless nihilism is a problem for morality and ethics. Which would help to highlight another problem with this question in estimating a consistent materialist atheist's relation to morality.nullasalus
April 18, 2010
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Can you name an ethical action directed at other human beings, that a believer could perform, and that a nonbeliever could not?
Why, precisely, would I want to limit ethical questions to what I owe other human beings when the greatest commandment of all concerns love of God? What good is completely, irrevocably blowing that one, but somehow (on the unlikely assumption--at least regarding Hitchens--that the atheist does not advocate the slaughter of inconvenient unborn human beings or the theft of his neighbor's property via socialism) getting love of neighbor correct? Regarding what a believer can do for Hitchens that an unbeliever couldn't: How about praying for his salvation? I've prayed for Dawkins, I've prayed for Hitchens. My assumption would be that should they find themselves in Paradise, they'll find that they will have many believers to thank, but needing to thank their militant atheist compadres? Not so much.Matteo
April 18, 2010
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Allen MacNeill "There is no documentary evidence that Oscar Schindler was a “committed believer”. He was raised a Catholic, but joined the Nazi party 1939. Over the course of the war, he eventually saved the lives of 1,100 Jews who worked in his enamel-work factories. When asked why he did so, he replied “I knew the people who worked for me… When you know people, you have to behave toward them like human beings.” This is not an example of a radically new ethic or ethical solution. This is pretty basic ethics flowing from the teachings of religious leaders such as the Buddha and Jesus Christ. To claim that Schindler was the first to ever think of something like this is ludicrous. Sooner Emeritus "There are strong similarities in the ethical teachings of Gautama Buddha and those of Jesus. The Buddha lived 400-500 years before Jesus did, and was atheistic. Palestine was anything but isolated from India before and during Jesus’ lifetime." The atheism of Buddhism is much different than the atheism of Dawkins or your typical modern atheist. Modern atheists are materialistic atheists, Buddhism is far from materialistic. The Buddha taught that you could transcend the material realm, maya, which was illusion. That is nothing like the atheism of today. Not to mention that the Buddha actually made it possible for every other being to achieve enlightenment and become a Buddha itself. I guess you could say Buddhism is more akin to a transcendental idealism where everything is godlike, i.e. Buddha-like.Phaedros
April 18, 2010
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To Dick #20, I am an atheist and I often donate money to victims of natural disasters (which are often far away from my home country). I dont do this because I feel any 'obligation', nor do I do it because I have been instructed by some old book, I do it because its the right thing to do.Graham
April 18, 2010
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On electing an atheist: http://www.gallup.com/poll/26611/Some-Americans-Reluctant-Vote-Mormon-72YearOld-Presidential-Candidates.aspxCharlie
April 18, 2010
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Sooner: Is One True Religion Possible? William Lane Craig http://www.vimeo.com/9189570bornagain77
April 18, 2010
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If it is a reply to Hitchens' original challenge (Let Gerson name one ethical statement made, or one ethical action performed, by a believer that could not have been uttered or done by a nonbeliever.) we're after, then: "We have a moral obligation to care about others" should suffice. If atheism is true there are no moral obligations.Dick
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Altruism & Selfless Love: Theistic and Naturalistic Perspectives http://www.vimeo.com/10809241 as for sooner saying Buddhism is as good as Christianity I would to refer to this study of NDE's for a thoroughly Buddhist culture: Near-Death Experiences in Thailand - Todd Murphy: Excerpt:The Light seems to be absent in Thai NDEs. So is the profound positive affect found in so many Western NDEs. The most common affect in our collection is negative. Unlike the negative affect in so many Western NDEs (cf. Greyson & Bush, 1992), that found in Thai NDEs (in all but case #11) has two recognizable causes. The first is fear of 'going'. The second is horror and fear of hell. It is worth noting that although half of our collection include seeing hell (cases 2,6,7,9,10) and being forced to witness horrific tortures, not one includes the NDEer having been subjected to these torments themselves. http://www.shaktitechnology.com/thaindes.htmbornagain77
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MacNeill: "There is no documentary evidence that Oscar Schindler was a “committed believer”." Therefore Oscar was a non-believer? That's a logical fallacy, and Arguments from Silence don't add up to much. The question here was not so much on whether one is a practicing believer, however related that may be to the act or state of belief. The one thing that cannot be denied is that eventually one's philosophy of life/death/justice/etc. will have some measure of influence throughout a person's life and upon the kinds of decisions when presented with crises of the sort Schindler faced. There isn't much inspiration derived from nihilism, but there is from the set of beliefs based on hope.JPCollado
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Emeritus: "There are strong similarities in the ethical teachings of Gautama Buddha and those of Jesus" Buddha's gospel version never offered love and prayer for the enemy, nor the ultimate sacrifice, the latter being antithethical to a worldview which strives to eek out every minute of one's limited existence.JPCollado
April 18, 2010
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1) We still have no resolution to the Euthyphro Dilemma. 2) If Christians perform an ethical act only because they were told it was ethical by God, have they, in fact, acted ethically? 3) If an atheist performs an act that, if performed by a Christian would be considered ethical, in what way would it be unethical for the atheist? 4) If acts are only ethical if so designated by a God who does not provide any reasons for his determinations, in what way can those choices be considered rational? How can abiding by those choices be considered rational? 5) If God's ethical prescriptions are, so far as we can tell, arbitrary and if there is no logical way to derive such prescriptions from observations of the natural world, how else might we "ground" a system of ethics? 6) If God can draw up a list of ethical commandments, what is to prevent us from doing the same? 7) If we find that other, non-Christian cultures have developed independently ethical systems of their own which are similar to Christian ethics, how can it be argued that only Christianity can supply foundational ethics? 8) Is there any rational basis for ethics other than utilitariansism?Seversky
April 18, 2010
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There are strong similarities in the ethical teachings of Gautama Buddha and those of Jesus. The Buddha lived 400-500 years before Jesus did, and was atheistic. Palestine was anything but isolated from India before and during Jesus' lifetime.Sooner Emeritus
April 18, 2010
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There is no documentary evidence that Oscar Schindler was a "committed believer". He was raised a Catholic, but joined the Nazi party 1939. Over the course of the war, he eventually saved the lives of 1,100 Jews who worked in his enamel-work factories. When asked why he did so, he replied "I knew the people who worked for me... When you know people, you have to behave toward them like human beings." [Source: David M. Crowe (2004) Oskar Schindler: The Untold Account of His Life, Wartime Activities, and the True Story Behind The List, Philadelphia, Westview Press.Allen_MacNeill
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In comment #11 Phaedros wrote:
"...can one imagine a “nonbeliever” coming up with a radically new ethical solution...?"
Yes; Oscar Schindler.Allen_MacNeill
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Altruism has no place in a "competitive" cold world where survival is most fitting. What an idealistic quandary.JPCollado
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