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It is commonly believed that Dr. Dan-Eric Nilsson and Dr. Susanne Pelger of Lund University in Sweden demonstrated in a scientific paper written back in 1994 that a fully-developed vertebrate eye could have developed from a simple light-sensitive spot by a process of unguided natural selection, in “less than 364,000 years.” That, at any rate, is the popular myth. What’s the reality?

Nilsson and Pelger certainly made a convincing case for gradualism in their paper, but they failed to bolster the case for Darwinism. Looking at the eye from a purely anatomical standpoint, they showed how a vertebrate eye could have developed from a patch of light-sensitive skin by the accumulation of numerous tiny modifications over the course of time – in other words, gradual change, or evolution. But what very few people realize is that Nilsson and Pelger used intelligently guided evolution to transform their flat, light-sensitive spot into a focused camera-type eye. What’s more, Nilsson – who is a convinced Darwinist – has recently acknowledged as much! (I’ll have a lot more to say on that surprising story, below.) Additionally, Nilsson and Pelger’s claim that the eye could have evolved in “less than 364,000 years” turns out to be a hypothetical estimate, which (as we’ll see) only applies to an intelligently designed fitness landscape.

In this post, I’m going to critically examine Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper, A Pessimistic Estimate of the Time Required for an Eye to Evolve (Proceedings: Biological Sciences, Vol. 256, No. 1345, (April 22, 1994), pp. 53-58). Before I continue, I would like to personally thank Professor Dan-Eric Nilsson for having responded to my queries regarding his paper. Dr. Nilsson was also kind enough to send me a copy of his new paper, entitled, “Eye evolution and its functional basis” (forthcoming in Visual Neuroscience, 2013, 30, doi:10.1017/S0952523813000035), which addresses the evolution of the eye in much greater depth than the 1994 paper which he co-authored with Dr. Susanne Pelger. I’m going to discuss Nilsson’s new paper in my next post. I’d also like to thank Dr. Anders Garm, a colleague of Dr. Nilsson, for having taken the time to answer my queries about vision in box jellyfish, in relation to the evolution of the eye.

Does Nilsson and Pelger’s model lend support to Intelligent Design or Darwinian evolution, or both?

It is my contention that Nilsson and Pelger’s model of the evolution of the eye is in fact a striking example of Intelligent Design, rather than Darwinian evolution. Readers may be surprised to learn that Nilsson and Pelger deliberately selected each of the 1,829 steps in their model leading from a light-sensitive spot to a camera-type vertebrate eye, by choosing which features they wanted to vary at every step along the way. That makes their model intelligently designed. And although the pathway created by Nilsson and Pelger was indeed a gradual one, their model lacks a key ingredient that would, if present, turn it into a powerful argument for Darwinism: probability calculations, showing how likely it was that Nature would have chosen the pathway they selected. I conclude that while Nilsson and Pelger’s model can be viewed as an Intelligent Design hypothesis regarding how the eye might have emerged over time through a process of guided evolution, it cannot be legitimately invoked as an argument for accepting Darwinism.

Some readers might object that Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate of the time required for the vertebrate eye to have developed does make it a truly Darwinian model, since it shows that the eye could have evolved relatively quickly. However, it turns out that Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate is based on a host of simplifying assumptions which render it useless for practical purposes. Nilsson and Pelger have left us with a theoretical model of how the eye could have evolved gradually, but without a realistic estimate that would demonstrate the feasibility of their model, over geological time.

Darwinism and the epistemic bar

Gold medal winner Ethel Catherwood of Canada scissors over the bar at the 1928 Summer Olympics. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

For some time now, Darwinists have been fighting – and generally winning – arguments against critics who contended that Darwinian evolution was impossible. They have won these arguments in two ways: firstly, by identifying a scientific flaw in their critics’ assumptions, which either invalidates their anti-Darwinian arguments or calls them into question; and secondly, by constructing theoretical models showing that a step-by-step evolutionary sequence from a hypothetical ancestor to its modern-day descendants would have been viable at each and every stage, and that each step along the way would have conferred a fitness advantage on the creature possessing it. (Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper falls into the second category.) Both of these tactics have served well to establish the theoretical possibility of Darwinism, as a scientific theory.

These tactics by Darwinists certainly make for splendid PR coups, but what do they actually prove? At the very most, all they prove is that Darwinism is theoretically possible: it might (in a very weak sense of “might”) have happened. But theoretical possibility and scientific plausibility are two very different things. In order for a hypothesis to attain the status of a respectable scientific theory, the mechanisms to which it appeals have to clear a certain threshold of probability, before that hypothesis can be deemed scientifically plausible.

What I’m arguing here is that Darwinism has secured public (and scientific) acceptance by lowering the epistemic bar from the standard usually required of a scientific theory. Most theories gain acceptance only after it has been shown that they are scientifically plausible, in addition to being supported by powerful evidence in their favor. For Darwinism, however, this requirement was waived. After making a strong scientific case that his theory of evolution was supported by converging lines of circumstantial evidence, Darwin managed to win acceptance for his new theory, simply by mounting an argument showing that its mechanism (natural selection) was theoretically possible. This was due in no small part to Darwin’s rhetorical skills: in terms of sheer eloquence, his Origin of Species was unmatched in the annals of scientific literature.

Now, there are a couple of significant exceptions to the requirement that a scientific hypothesis should invoke a plausible mechanism before it can be taken seriously as a scientific theory. Newton’s theory of gravity gained acceptance despite the fact that it lacked a known mechanism, for the simple reason that it could be experimentally verified, at scales ranging from falling apples to the movement of the planets in the solar system. And in our own day, no geologist doubts the reality of continental drift, even though the underlying mechanism – plate tectonics – remains poorly understood. After all, scientists can actually measure the continents drifting, at the rate of several centimeters a year. It is easy to extrapolate back in time and show that at one point, they would have all been together. Unfortunately, neither of these exceptions is of any help to Darwinism.

First, the parallel with Newton’s theory of gravity fails. While there is evidence in the fossil record for large-scale evolutionary change, this evidence tells us nothing about the mechanism involved. Hence it cannot be adduced as evidence for Darwinism.

That leaves us with extrapolation. Darwinian evolutionists have long argued that their theory can be validated by extrapolating from observed evolutionary changes, such as those wrought by artificial selection. As Professor Jerry Coyne put it in Nature magazine in 2001:

When, after a Christmas visit, we watch grandma leave on the train to Miami, we assume that the rest of her journey will be an extrapolation of that first quarter-mile. A creationist unwilling to extrapolate from micro- to macroevolution is as irrational as an observer who assumes that, after grandma’s train disappears around the bend, it is seized by divine forces and instantly transported to Florida. (Nature 412:587, 19 August 2001.)


A Southbound Amtrak 139 train on the Siver Star route crosses Central Boulevard in downtown Orlando, Florida. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

What this analogy overlooks is that there is only one railway track taking Grandma to Florida. Macroevolution, on the other hand, is a multi-forked path with an astronomically large number of possible branches, and additionally, there is no intelligent driver and no pre-programmed destination, in Darwin’s theory. Thus in order to demonstrate the feasibility of a vertebrate eye evolving from a light-sensitive spot by a Darwinian mechanism, it is necessary to show first that the probability of its arriving at a vertebrate eye within the time available exceeds a certain threshold, rendering the theory plausible and hence worthy of scientific credence. In other words, proponents of Darwinian evolution have to come up with some “hard numbers.”

Historically, Darwinists have usually resisted this demand for “hard numbers” by arguing that the mathematical calculations verifying the ability of natural selection to transform a light-sensitive spot into a camera-type eye over millions of years were just too hard to do, and that the skeptics’ demand for “hard numbers” was an epistemically unreasonable one. “We’ve got the fossils, as well as the evidence from homology, embryology, vestigial organs and biogeography, and we’ve got a mechanism which has been shown to work on short time-scales,” say the Darwinists. “That should be enough to convince you.”

Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper is therefore highly significant, because it represents a genuine scientific attempt to engage the Darwin-skeptics on their own turf. The authors examine the vertebrate eye – a complex organ often cited by Darwin-skeptics as beyond the power of natural selection to explain – and argue that a step-wise sequence of anatomical changes, occurring one at a time, could have transformed a light-sensitive spot into a fully fledged camera-type eye over a period that they calculate – using conservative assumptions – as “less than 364,000 years,” which means that there was enough time for eyes to evolve 1,500 times over, during the 540 million years since eyes first appeared, back in the Cambrian period. Darwinism wins by a knock-out, right?

Not quite. Unfortunately for Darwinists, the evolution that Nilsson and Pelger describe in their paper is intelligently guided evolution. And I have the evidence to prove it.

Why the model described in Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper is really an example of intelligently guided evolution

The evidence for my contention that Nilsson and Pelger’s model is really an example of intelligently guided evolution comes from two sources: a recent communication sent to me by Professor Nilsson, and the original 1994 paper authored by Nilsson and Pelger.

(a) What Professor Nilsson said recently about the model he and Dr. Pelger created

I claimed above that Professor Nilsson had recently acknowledged that the step-by-step sequence from a light-sensitive spot to a camera eye, which he and Dr. Pelger described in described in their 1994 paper, was actually an intelligently guided evolutionary sequence. I’m now going to supply “chapter and verse” to back up that claim. I recently contacted Professor Nilsson, and asked him about the 1994 paper he co-authored with Susanne Pelger, and he was kind enough to respond. In his response, he patiently explained to me exactly what he and Pelger were trying to establish with their model:

If there is random and heritable variation separately controlling a large number of different parameters, then selection would, for each generation, choose the route that causes the largest improvement of whatever selection was set to favour (e.g. acuity). So, if there is more than one parameter that can vary, evolution can be expected to follow different routes depending on how much the different parameters vary, and how much impact they have on acuity. In real eye evolution, there would be numerous different parameters that express heritable variation in the population, and the amount of variation could itself be modified by selection. Real eye evolution has also resulted in many different end products, using different ways to form images, and different cellular organizations to obtain particular structures. These are all interesting questions, but the Nilsson and Pelger 94 paper does not address these questions. Instead the paper asks the much more tenable question: is there a continuous route from a flat, non-imaging light detector to a focused camera type eye, where each little modification, no matter how small, would generate an improvement in acuity. The important answer we find is yes, there is at least one such route. Although this route was devised by us (by deciding which parameters were to change during different phases along the route) the important result is that there is at least one route where acuity continuously improves at each new generation. Real evolution may find an even shorter route, where acuity improves more for each generation, but that would not change the important conclusion that an eye can evolve from a patch of light sensitive skin by numerous tiny modifications.

Referring to his model of how the eye evolved, Nilsson admits that “this route was devised by us,” in order to generate “a continuous route from a flat, non-imaging light detector to a focused camera type eye, where each little modification, no matter how small, would generate an improvement in acuity,” and that it was constructed “by deciding which parameters were to change during different phases along the route.” That’s intelligently guided evolution. No two ways about it. Case closed.

(b) What Nilsson and Pelger said about their model in their 1994 paper

The fact that Nilsson and Pelger relied on intelligently guided evolution to generate a vertebrate eye from a flat light-sensitive spot shouldn’t be news to anyone who has taken the trouble to read their 1994 paper, A pessimistic estimate of the time required for an eye to evolve (Proceedings: Biological Sciences, Vol. 256, No. 1345, April 22, 1994, pp. 53-58). The clues were there all along. Here’s what Nilsson and Pelger wrote about their mathematical model, in their paper:

Estimates of the number of generations required to make a change to a simple quantitative character are easily made if the phenotypic variation, selection intensity and heritability of the character are known (Falconer, 1989). The evolution of complex structures, however, involves modifications of a large number of separate quantitative characters, and in addition there may be discrete innovations and an unknown number of hidden but necessary phenotypical changes. These complications seem effectively to prevent evolution rate estimates for entire organs and other complex structures. An eye is unique in this respect because the structures required for image formation, although there may be several, are all typically quantitative in their nature, and can be treated as local modifications of pre-existing tissues. taking a patch of light-sensitive epithelium as the starting point, we avoid the more inaccessible problem of photoreceptor cell evolution (Goldsmith 1990; Land and Fernald 1992). Thus if the objective is limited to finding the number of generations required for the evolution of the eye’s optical geometry, then the problem becomes solvable.

We have made such calculations by outlining a plausible sequence of alterations leading from a light-sensitive spot all the way to a fully-developed lens eye. The model sequence is made such that every part of it, no matter how small, results in an increase in the spatial information the eye can detect. The amount of morphological change required for the whole sequence is then used to calculate the number of generations required. Whenever plausible values had to be assumed, such as for selection intensity and phenotypic variation, we deliberately picked values that overestimate the number of generations. Despite this consistently pessimistic approach, we arrive at only a few hundred thousand generations!…

The first and most crucial task is to work out an evolutionary sequence which would be continuously driven by selection. The sequence should be consistent with evidence from comparative anatomy, but preferably without being specific to any particular group of animals. Ideally we would like selection to work on a single function throughout the sequence. Fortunately, spatial resolution, i.e. visual acuity, is just such a fundamental aspect and it provides the role reason for the eye’s optical design (Snyder et al., 1977; Nilsson 1990; Warrant and Macintyre 1993)…

The refractive index of the vitreous lens is assumed to be 1.35.… The aperture size in Stage 6 was chosen to reflect the typical proportions in real eyes of this type.

A graded-index lens can be introduced gradually as a local increase of refractive index…

Based on the principles outlined above, we made a model sequence of which representative stages are shown in figure 2. [The enclosed figure shows eight distinct stages, out of a total of 1,829 in their model – VJT.] The starting point is a flat light-sensitive epithelium, which by invagination forms the retina of a pigmented pit eye. After the constriction of the aperture and the gradual formation of a lens, the final product becomes a focused camera-type eye with the geometry typical for aquatic animals (e.g. fish and cephalopods).

To sum up: Nilsson and Pelger started out with a flat, light-sensitive spot, whose dimensions and thickness they were able to describe with the aid of a few mathematical parameters. They then planned a continuous route from a flat, non-imaging light detector to a focused camera-type eye, such that each little modification, no matter how small, would generate an improvement in visual acuity. The evolutionary sequence was not generated by some random process; it was planned in every detail, at every step by Nilsson and Pelger. They decided “which parameters were to change during different phases along the route.”


Schematic diagram showing the evolution of the eye. Image courtesy of Matticus78 and Wikipedia.

Nilsson and Pelger’s model certainly is a gradualistic model, but it cannot be called a Darwinian model, because although the model’s authors created “an evolutionary sequence which would be continuously driven by selection,” they made no attempt to quantify the likelihood of those changes occurring, in that particular sequence, without intelligent guidance. Without that probability calculation, Nilsson and Pelger cannot claim to have shown that their hypothetical model supports Darwinian evolution. As Nilsson himself put it in his recent communication to me, “this route was devised by us.”

While Nilsson and Pelger can rightly claim to have demonstrated in their 1994 paper is the theoretical possibility of the eye evolving in a Darwinian fashion, at the morphological level, the claim the authors make in the final sentence of their paper, that “the eye was never a real threat to Darwin’s theory of evolution,” remains a doubtful one. Theoretical possibility is not enough to render a theory scientifically plausible.

How Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper has been mis-reported by evolutionists over the last two decades

Left: Professor Richard Dawkins at the 34th American Atheists Conference in Minneapolis, on 21 March 2008. Image courtesy of Mike Cornwell and Wikipedia.
Right: Professor Jerry Coyne. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

Ever since Nilsson and Pelger’s paper was published, Darwinian evolutionists citing the paper have almost invariably mis-reported its findings. Two great myths have been recycled in the literature again and again: the fiction that Nilsson and Pelger’s model was a computer simulation, and the fiction that the variations in the model were random, like the variations in Darwinian evolution. We now know – thanks to the indefatigable research of Dr. David Berlinski – is that Nilsson and Pelger’s model didn’t even use a computer. And now we also know that the variations introduced into the model were deliberately designed, rather than random.

(a) The myth of the computer simulation – how it all got started, and how it continues to be perpetuated

The reader may be wondering: how did these myths get propagated in the first place? The answer is that they originated from an eminent scientist whom no-one dared to publicly contradict when he got it wrong. I’m referring, of course, Professor Richard Dawkins, who completely mis-read what Nilsson and Pelger said in their 1994 paper. (I wish to state here that I am not accusing Professor Dawkins of acting in bad faith; it is entirely possible that he misconstrued Nilsson & Pelger’s study. In that case, Dawkins is guilty of incompetence, rather than deceit.) In a jubilant review of Nilsson and Pelger’s paper, “The Eye in a Twinkling” (Nature Vol. 368, 21 April 1994, pp. 690-691), Dawkins claimed that their model was based on not one but two computer simulations, and that the mutations occurring in their model were random:

“Nilsson and Pelger’s task was to set up two computer models of evolving eyes to answer two questions. First, is there a smooth trajectory of change, from flat skin to full camera eye, such that every intermediate is an improvement? (Unlike human designers, natural selection can’t go downhill, not even if there is a tempting higher hill the other side of the valley.) Second, how long would the necessary quantity of evolutionary change take?

“Nilsson and Pelger worked at the level of tissue deformations, not at the level of cellular biophysics. The existence of a light-sensitive cell was taken as a given…

“Nilsson and Pelger began with a flat retina, atop a flat pigment layer and surmounted by a flat, transparent layer (see figure). The transparent layer was allowed localized random mutations of its refractive index. They then let the model deform itself at random, constrained only by the requirement that any change must be only 1% bigger or smaller than what went before. And, of course, in order for a change to be accepted, it had to be an improvement on what went before.

The results were swift and decisive. A trajectory of steadily improving acuity led unhesitatingly from a flat beginning through a shallow cup to a steadily deepening cup. The transparent layer thickened to fill the cup and smoothly curved its outer surface. And then, almost like a conjuring trick, a portion of this transparent filling condensed into a local, spherical subregion of higher refractive index – not uniformly higher, but a gradient of refractive index such that the spherical region functioned as an excellent graded-index lens. Best of all, the ratio of the focal length of the lens to its diameter settled down at a close approximation to Mattiessen’s ratio, long known to be the ideal value for a graded-index lens.

“Turning to the question of how long the evolution might have taken, Nilsson and Pelger had to make some plausible population-genetic assumptions. They chose values of heritability, coefficient of variation and intensity of selection from published observations in the field. Their guiding principle in choosing such numbers was pessimism. For each assumption they made, they wanted to err in the direction of overestimating the time taken for the eye to evolve. They even went so far as to assume that any new generation differed in only one part of the eye: simultaneous changes in different parts of the eye, which would have speeded up evolution, were banned. But even with these conservative assumptions, the time taken for a fish eye to evolve from flat skin was under 400,000 generations. Assuming typical generation times of one year for small animals, the time needed for the evolution of the eye, far from stretching credulity with its vastness, turns out to be too short for geologists to measure. It is a geological blink.”

Professor Richard Dawkins’ egregious misreading of Nilsson and Pelger’s paper has been roundly criticized by mathematician David Berlinski. Berlinski is the author of several articles exposing the scientific mis-reporting of Nilsson and Pelger’s paper, including A Scientific Scandal (Commentary, March 31, 2001), The Vexing Eye (Commentary, February 12, 2003), and A Scientific Scandal? David Berlinski & Critics (Commentary, July 8, 2003):

Nilsson and Pelger’s paper has gained currency in both the popular and the scientific press because it has been misrepresented as a computer simulation, most notably by Richard Dawkins. Word spread from Dawkins’s mouth to any number of eagerly cupped but woefully gullible ears. Subsequent references to Nilsson and Pelger’s work have ignored what they actually wrote in favor of that missing computer simulation, in a nice example of a virtual form of virtual reality finally displacing the real thing altogether…

In a more recent paper entitled, The Vampire’s Heart, Berlinski took up the issue again, in an online response to James Downard:

The facts: Nilsson & Pelger’s study, which was widely considered a computer simulation, contained no computer simulation whatsoever. It contained, in fact, no computer analysis at all, perhaps because it contained no analysis at all. It was Richard Dawkins who conveyed the widespread impression to the contrary, writing about a computer simulation that did not exist with the excitement of a man persuaded that he had seen a digital vision. As, indeed, he had. Commentators at the time came to Dawkins’ defense with a gratifyingly prompt display of personal generosity, so that what was, in fact, a complete fabrication took on the aspects of an understandable but trivial error. Any man, after all, might mistake nothing for something.

The “computer simulation” myth continues to be propagated, right down to the present day. In a recent blog article on Nilsson and Pelger’s paper, entitled, Evolution of the Eye: Nilsson & Pelger and Lens Evolution (January 22, 2011), the neo-Darwinist blogger Francis Smallwood (who is also a good friend of ID proponent Joshua Gidney) referred to an “evolutionary simulation” created by Nilsson and Pelger, which was “not programmed to progress in ever-improving stages,” but which “allowed mutation” from which the fittest variation was selected – in other words, “true natural selection”:

Nilsson and Pelger postulated there being three types of tissue of which the eye was comprised: an opaque shield which covered the back of the eye; photocells; and a transparent film or substance (an example of this would be the vitreous mass which we looked at in the previous post.) An eye endowed with the previous constitution formed the basis from which their evolutionary simulation would begin…

So, how did N&P [Nilsson and Pelger] intend their computer eyes to evolve? They treated a genetic mutation as a percentage change in a certain part of the eye, for example, a decrease in the thickness of the transparent layer. A mutation would affect the size of part of the eye, or the functional quality of a part of the eye, such as the refractive index (which we will come to later). And, importantly, the simulation was not programmed to progress in ever-improving stages, as if the whole evolutionary progression was pre-programmed and they simply divided the one long evolutionary phase into lots of small phases, chopping up a pre-selected evolutionary progression into small quantifiable, arbitrary units. Instead, they allowed mutation from which would be selected the variations (mutations) which improved the computer eye – true natural selection…

By allowing mutation in the refractive index of the computer eye, and thus allowing variation which selection could then act upon. The single criterion which selection solicited was improved eyesight. If this criterion was met, however fractionally, selection would harness it and further “act” upon it.

Unfortunately, Smallwood has mis-read Nilsson and Pelger’s paper. Nilsson and Pelger clearly indicate in their paper that the mutations occurred in a planned order (folding mutations first, followed by aperture construction mutations, followed by mutations that varied the refractive index of the lens, followed by mutations that varied the shape and size of the lens), and in his recent communication to me, Professor Nilsson added that “this route was devised by us (by deciding which parameters were to change during different phases along the route).” Whichever way you slice and dice it, that’s not natural selection. That’s intelligently guided evolution.

(b) The myth of the randomly varying parameters

The second great myth which I drew attention to above was the mistaken notion that the variations introduced into Nilsson and Pelger’s model were random ones, when in fact they were all painstakingly designed. This myth also goes back to Professor Richard Dawkins’ review of Nilsson and Pelger’s paper, “The Eye in a Twinkling” (Nature Vol. 368, 21 April 1994, pp. 690-691), in which he wrote:

Nilsson and Pelger began with a flat retina, atop a flat pigment layer and surmounted by a flat, transparent layer (see figure). The transparent layer was allowed localized random mutations of its refractive index. They then let the model deform itself at random, constrained only by the requirement that any change must be only 1% bigger or smaller than what went before. And, of course, in order for a change to be accepted, it had to be an improvement on what went before.

Dawkins went on to breathlessly inform his readers that the results of these random variations were magical: “almost like a conjuring trick, a portion of this transparent filling condensed into a local, spherical subregion of higher refractive index – not uniformly higher, but a gradient of refractive index such that the spherical region functioned as an excellent graded-index lens.”

The myth that Nilsson and Pelger’s model employed random variations was deftly taken apart by the mathematician Dr. David Berlinski in his paper, A Scientific Scandal? David Berlinski & Critics (Commentary, July 8, 2003), from which I shall quote a brief excerpt:

“…[T]he flaw in Nilsson and Pelger’s work to which I attach the greatest importance is that, as a defense of Darwinian theory, it makes no mention of Darwinian principles. Those principles demand that biological change be driven first by random variation and then by natural selection. There are no random variations in Nilsson and Pelger’s theory. Whatever else their light-sensitive cells may be doing, they are not throwing down dice or flipping coins to figure out where they are going next…

Regrettably, Professor Jerry Coyne (who should know better) continues to propagate this myth in his best-selling 2009 book, Why Evolution Is True:

“We can, starting with a simple precursor, actually model the evolution of the eye and see whether selection can turn that precursor into a more complex eye within a reasonable amount of time. Dan Nilsson and Susanne Pelger of Lund University in Sweden made such a mathematical model, starting with a patch of light-sensitive cells backed by a pigment layer (a retina). They then allowed the tissues around this structure to deform themselves randomly, limiting the amount of change to only 1% of size or thickness at each step. To mimic natural selection, the model accepted only mutations that improved the visual acuity, and rejected those that degraded it.

Within an amazingly short time, the model yielded a complex eye, going through stages similar to the real-animal series described above. The eyes folded inward to form a cup, the cup became capped with a transparent surface, and the interior of the cup gelled to form not only a lens, but a lens with dimensions that produced the best possible image.

“Beginning with a flatworm-like eyespot, then, the model produced something like the complex eye of vertebrates, all through a series of tiny adaptive steps – 1,829 of them, to be exact. But Nilsson and Pelger could also calculate how long this process would take. To do this, they made some assumptions about how much genetic variation for eye shape existed in the population that began experiencing selection, and how strongly selection would favor each useful step in eye size. These assumptions were deliberately conservative, assuming that there were reasonable but not large amounts of genetic variation and that natural selection was very weak. Nevertheless, the eye evolved very quickly: the entire process from rudimentary light-patch to camera eye took fewer than 400,000 years.

– Coyne, Jerry A. Why Evolution Is True, 2009, Oxford University Press, p. 155.

In the above passage, Coyne carefully avoids repeating Dawkins’ ridiculous assertion that Nilsson and Pelger’s model was created by a computer simulation, referring only to a “mathematical model.” However, he perpetuates a popular misunderstanding of that model when he claims that Nilsson and Pelger “allowed the tissues … to deform themselves randomly,” and that these random variations, coupled with the culling action of natural selection in rejecting mutations that diminished visual acuity, yielded “a complex eye” within “an amazingly short time.”
What Coyne overlooks here is that the mutations in Nilsson and Pelger’s model were anything but random: each and every one of them was designed by the model’s authors. The authors did indeed manage to trace a viable morphological path from a flat light-sensitive spot to a vertebrate eye, but they failed to show that unguided natural selection had a reasonable probability (within the time available) of finding and successfully traversing this lucky path, without getting side-tracked down an evolutionary blind-alley. For this reason, Nilsson and Pelger’s model, by itself, proves nothing about the ability of natural selection to bring about macroevolutionary transformations.

How did Nilsson and Pelger arrive at their 364,000-year time estimate for the evolution of the eye?

For those who are mathematically inclined, Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate of the time required for the eye to evolve was derived as follows. After identifying the mathematical principles governing the camera eye (which is found in vertebrates and many cephalopods), Nilsson and Pelger constructed a model sequence, starting with “a flat patch of light-sensitive cells sandwiched between a transparent protective layer and a layer of dark pigment” and finishing with a camera eye possessing a spherical graded-index lens, a flat iris and a focal length that allowed it to focus images sharply. Eight of the steps in Nilsson and Pelger’s model sequence are illustrated in Figure 2 of their paper. However, there were in fact 1,829 steps altogether, owing to the constraint imposed by the authors, that the amount of change in size or thickness at each step would be limited to only 1%. Now, Nilsson and Pelger’s model of the eye described it in terms of about ten features which could be measured mathematically: corneal width, corneal thickness, upper retinal surface width, lower retinal surface width, upper pigment surface width, lower pigment surface width, central refractive index, iris width, lens width and lens height. The fact that there are no less than ten mathematical parameters might appear to make modeling very difficult, but in fact, if there is more than one parameter that changes, it is possible to treat the changes in the different parameters as if they were all changes in a single parameter, and then sum the number of 1% steps for the different kinds of changes taking place, in order to arrive at a total measure of change. Now if we take a 1% change and cumulate it 1,829 times we get something roughly equivalent to an 80 million-fold change, as (1.01)^1829 equals 80,129,540. In other words, the total amount of change in the ten different mathematical parameters describing the eye is equivalent to an 80 million-fold change in just one of these parameters. For those readers who are accustomed to thinking in visual terms, Nilsson and Pelger provided a helpful analogy:

“In terms of morphological modification, the evolution of an eye can thus be compared to the lengthening of a structure, say a finger, from a modest 10 cm to 8,000 km, or a fifth of the Earth’s circumference” (p. 56).

Quite some change, one might think! So how long would it take to accomplish? At this point in their paper, Nilsson and Pelger referred to an equation which is commonly used to calculate the observable change in each generation:

R = (h^2).i.V.m

where R is the response, or the observable change in each generation, (h^2) is the heritability (i.e. the proportion of phenotypic variance which is genetically determined), i is the intensity of selection, V is the coefficient of variation (i.e. the ratio between the standard deviation and the mean in a population), and m is the mean in a population. Nilsson and Pelger assigned a value of 0.50 to (h^2), which they say is a standard value. They then (pessimistically) assumed that i = 0.01 and V = 0.01, making the right hand side of their equation equal to 0.5 times 0.01 times 0.01 times the mean, m, or in other words 0.00005 times the mean, m.
It follows that even though the genetic changes occurring in mutated individuals are 1% changes, the observed changes occurring in the population as a whole is only 0.005% per generation (or 0.00005 times the mean, m). Nilsson and Pelger then reasoned as follows:

The number of generations, n, for the whole sequence is then given by 1.00005^n = 80,129,540, which implies that n = 363,992 generations would be sufficient for a lens eye to evolve by natural selection.… (p. 57)

If we assume a generation time of one year, which is common for small and medium-sized aquatic animals, it would take less than 364,000 years for a camera eye to evolve from a light-sensitive patch. (p. 58)

Eight reasons for taking Nilsson and Pelger’s time estimate for the evolution of the eye with a grain of salt

There are several good reasons for refusing to take Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate seriously, as a calculation for how long it would take for the vertebrate eye to evolve. In the absence of a credible estimate, Nilsson and Pelger’s model can no longer be said to buttress the case for Darwinism. All it establishes is that the eye could have developed from a much simpler structure, via a gradual process – and the only gradual process which the authors have shown to be capable of generating an eye is an intelligently guided one.

Here, then, are my eight reasons for skepticism, regarding the 364,000-year estimate.

(a) The 364,000-year figure is a “nice round number,” which appears to have been deliberately chosen in order to provide Darwin’s theory with some good publicity

Mask of Tutankhamun’s mummy at the Egyptian Museum in Cairo. Image courtesy of Bjorn Christian Torrissen and Wikipedia.

My first reason for skepticism is that the 364,000-year figure cited by Nilsson and Pelger in their paper is what I would call a “nice round number.” It sounds even better when you express it in approximate terms, as “a few hundred thousand years,” as Nilsson and Pelger do in their summary. It’s a number which gives every indication of having been carefully crafted in order to impress laypeople with the creative power of natural selection, without exciting their incredulity. Most people think of evolution as a long process that takes millions of years. When we are told that the eye evolved in only 300,000 years, it sounds fast, because it’s well under the “magic million” mark. At the same time, it doesn’t sound too fast, as a figure of, say, 3,000 years would be. Nobody would believe a figure like that.

However, what the evolutionists who cite Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate overlook is that it was deliberately intended to be a conservative figure. That’s why the title reads: “A Pessimistic Estimate of the Time Required for an Eye to Evolve.” As we saw above, Nilsson and Pelger assigned a value of 0.01 to the intensity of selection i, and they also selected a value for 0.01 for the coefficient of variation V. However, each of these figures could have been plausibly chosen to be 10 times higher. Setting the intensity of selection i to 0.01 means that a randomly chosen organism in the general population would have a chance of survival that’s 99% as high as that of an organism possessing the favorable mutation – a very weak selection effect indeed. By comparison, this table, which is taken from the online notes for a university course in population genetics, lists values for the selection intensity i ranging from 0.00 to 2.67. Thus Nilsson and Pelger could have easily assigned a value of 0.10 to i, instead of 0.01.

Likewise, Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate of 0.01 for the coefficient of variation V is very modest: according to some online course notes on Fitness, Adaptation, and Natural Selection in Real Populations by Dr. Steven Carr (Department of Biology, Memorial University of Newfoundland, Canada) a value of 5% to 10% (0.05 to 0.10) for V is typical “for many traits in many organisms.” Had Nilsson and Pelger used a value of 0.10 for the intensity of selection i and the coefficient of variation V, their calculation would have shown that the eye could have evolved in just 3,650 years, which is roughly equivalent to the time that has elapsed since the death of Pharaoh Tutankhamun, who ruled Egypt from 1332 to 1323 B.C.

Here’s my challenge to Darwinian biologists: try telling the man-in-the-street that the vertebrate eye could have evolved from a light-sensitive spot in the time since King Tut died, and see what kind of reaction you get. I wouldn’t mind betting that it will weaken, rather than strengthen, his belief in Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Left: An okapi at Marwell Wildlife, Hampshire, England. Image courtesy of Cahrles Miller and Wikipedia.
Right: A giraffe at Mikumi National Park, Tanzania. Image courtesy of Muhammad Mahdi Karim and Wikipedia.

But there’s an even simpler way to illustrate the biological absurdity of Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate of the time required for the eye to evolve. Let’s go back to what Nilsson and Pelger said in their paper about the changes that occurred in the evolution of the vertebrate eye, from a light-sensitive spot:

In terms of morphological modification, the evolution of an eye can thus be compared to the lengthening of a structure, say a finger, from a modest 10 cm to 8,000 km, or a fifth of the Earth’s circumference” (p. 56).

Let’s now consider a much smaller change: the lengthening of the giraffe’s neck. Above is a picture of a giraffe, next to its closest living relative, the okapi. The structure we are considering here is the giraffe’s neck, which is less than 10 times as long as an okapi’s. Ask the man-in-the-street how long it took for the giraffe to get its long neck, and he’ll probably say, “A few million years.” And yet, we are supposed to believe that the changes involved in transforming a light-sensitive spot into a vertebrate eye, which are equivalent to an 80 million-fold lengthening of an animal’s neck, could have taken place in 364,000 years?

(b) Nilsson and Pelger admit that their estimate is a purely hypothetical one

Second, Nilsson and Pelger explicitly acknowledge in the final paragraph of their paper that their 364,000-year estimate was never meant to be a realistic one, and applies to a hypothetical situation in which “selection for eye geometry and optical structures imposed the only limit.” As they put it:

Because eyes cannot evolve on their own, our calculations do not say how long it actually took for eyes to evolve in the various animal groups. However, the estimate demonstrates that eye evolution would be extremely fast if selection for eye geometry and optical structures imposed the only limit. This implies that eyes can be expected to respond very rapidly to evolutionary changes in the lifestyle of a species. (p. 58)

However, the only situation in which selection for eye geometry and optical structures are likely to impose the only limit on the rate of evolution is one in which all of the other complex organs of the body have already evolved – which of course begs the question. And that brings me to my next point.

(c) Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate isn’t anatomically realistic: it leaves out the brain

The occipital lobe of the human brain (pink). The occipital lobe is the visual processing center of the mammalian brain, containing most of the anatomical region of the visual cortex. Figure 728 from Gray’s Anatomy, with labels removed. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

Third, Nilsson and Pelger acknowledge in their paper that their 364,000-year estimate for the time required for the evolution of the eye was arrived at by focusing on the evolution of the optical structures of the eye only, in isolation from the brain. But as the authors readily acknowledge, an eye “makes little sense” without an advanced brain, and the complex vertebrate eye of a fish requires a fish brain in order to process the information it conveys to the nervous system:

If advanced lens eyes can evolve so fast, why are there still so many examples of intermediate designs among recent animals? The answer is clearly related to a fact that we have deliberately ignored, namely that an eye makes little sense on its own. Although reasonably well-developed eyes are found even in jellyfish (Piatigorsky et al., 1989), one would expect most lens eyes to be useless to their bearers without advanced neural processing.. For a sluggish worm to take full advantage of a pair of fish eyes, it would need a brain with large optic lobes. But that would not be enough, because the information from the optic lobes would need to be integrated in associative centres, fed to motor centres, and then relayed to muscles in an advanced locomotory system. In other words, the worm would need to become a fish. (p. 58)

Insofar as Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate is derived by focusing on one organ of the body to the exclusion of all others, it cannot be regarded as anatomically realistic.

(d) Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate isn’t ecologically realistic

Fourth, Nilsson and Pelger readily admit in their paper that their 364,000-year estimate deliberately confines its attention to one organism, and ignores changes occurring in other species, and in the organism’s environment:

Additionally, the eyes and all other advanced features of an animal like a fish become useful only after the whole ecological environment has evolved to a level where fast visually guided locomotion is beneficial. (p. 58)

In other words, Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate for the evolution of the eye is not ecologically realistic. It considers one organism in isolation from its surroundings.

(e) Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate isn’t computationally realistic

A surface with two local maxima. (Only one of them is the global maximum.) If a hill-climber begins in a poor location, it may converge to the lower maximum. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

Fifth, Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate for the time required for the optical structures of the eye to evolve assumes a very smooth fitness landscape, as Dov Rhodes demonstrated in a 2007 physics thesis which addressed their 1994 paper. Using a genetic algorithm, Rhodes calculates that Nilsson and Pelger have under-estimated the time required by a factor of at least five, and more realistically fifty. Rhodes’ thesis, which is entitled, Approximating the Evolution Time of the Eye: A Genetic Algorithms Approach, makes for fascinating reading. I’d like to quote a few brief excerpts:

“A paper published in 1994 by the Swedish scientists Nilsson and Pelger [6] gained immediate worldwide fame for describing the evolution process for an eye, and approximating the time required for an eye to evolve from a simple patch that sense electromagnetic radiation. Nilsson and Pelger (NP) outlined an evolutionary path, where by minute improvements on each step a camera type eye can evolve in approximately 360,000 years, which is extremely fast on an evolutionary time scale.… (p. 1)

“The main problem with the NP model is that although the evolutionary path that it describes might be a legitimate one, it neglects consideration for divergent paths. It is easy to construct a situation in which the best temporary option for the improvement of an eye does not lead towards the development of the globally optimal solution. This idea motivates our alternative approach, the method of genetic algorithms. In this paper we use the genetic algorithm with a simplified (2-dimensional) version of NP’s setup and show the error in their approach. We argue that if their approach is mistaken in the simplified model, it is even farther from reality in the full evolutionary setting. (p. 2)

“Although the paraboloid landscape guarantees convergence, the GA [genetic algorithm] is still a probabilistic algorithm and thus will not always converge quickly. As in evolution, the most efficient path is not necessarily the one taken. This fact suggests that our already conservative value of lambda = 5.41 would be even larger if compared with a real deterministic algorithm such as the NP (Nilsson-Pelger) model. Even though their computation accounts to some extent for the average probability of evolutionary development over time, it fails to consider the countless different evolutionary paths, and instead chooses just one.

Rather than 360 thousand generations, a reasonable lower bound should be at least 5*360,000 = 1.8*10^6 generations, and if our previous speculations have merit, an order of magnitude higher would ramp up the estimate to around 18 million generations. Future experiments that would be useful for improving the accuracy of our results might involve varying the mutation parameter, and most importantly letting algorithms run for longer, allowing the lower bound for convergence to be pushed even higher.” (p. 15)

That was in 2007. I recently emailed Dr. Anders Garm, a collegue of Dr. Nilsson’s, with whom he co-authored a 2011 paper entitled, Box Jellyfish Use Terrestrial Visual Cues for Navigation by Anders Garm, Magnus Oskarsson and Dan-Eric Nilsson (Current Biology 21, 798-803, May 10, 2011. DOI 10.1016/j.cub.2011.03.054). Most of my questions related to vision in jellyfish and other animals, but I also referred in passing to the genetic algorithm described in Dov Rhodes’ 2007 thesis and asked Dr. Garm: “Have any more sophisticated algorithms been developed?” Dr. Garm is a very busy man, but he was gracious enough to issue a brief response that was straight to the point: “No, we do not have such plans at the moment.”

(f) Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate isn’t genetically plausible

Sixth, Nilsson and Pelger say nothing in their paper about the genetic changes required to produce an eye. At the morphological level, the changes look plausible enough; but we have no idea whether continuity at the morphological level translates into continuity at the genetic level. It may, and it may not. We simply don’t know.

The reader will recall that each of the “mutations” in Nilsson and Pelger’s model involved changes of up to 1% in one of ten or so features of the eye: corneal width, corneal thickness, upper retinal surface width, lower retinal surface width, upper pigment surface width, lower pigment surface width, central refractive index, iris width, lens width and lens height. What this assumes, of course, is that there is some gene inside the organism’s DNA which will vary each of these properties, without varying anything else. That’s a convenient simplifying assumption, to be sure, but it’s not realistic at a genetic level. It’s more likely that changes to one of these features will impact – perhaps adversely – on the other features, rendering the organism less viable.

(g) Nilsson and Pelger’s estimate isn’t plausible at the embryological level

Zebrafish embryos. The image at the top is that of a wild-type embryo, while the image at the bottom is that of a zebrafish pigment mutant, which lacks black pigment. Image courtesy of Adam Amsterdam (MIT), J. Bradbury (Small Fish, Big Science) and Wikipedia.

Seventh, Nilsson and Pelger fail to address the question of how the changes required to produce an eye would have impacted the embryonic development of organisms that were evolving this eye. Organisms’ developmental pathways are extremely fragile, especially in the early stages. The idea that changes to these pathways are highly heritable – Nilsson and Pelger suggest a heritability of 50% in their 1994 paper – is biologically implausible. As we’ll see, a more realistic figure for the heritability in such a case would be zero.

The reader will recall that in their paper, Nilsson and Pelger posited the occurrence of no less than 1,829 mutations leading from a creature with a flat light-sensitive spot to a creature with a camera-type vertebrate eye. In estimating the time required for an entire population of organisms to acquire all these mutations, one at a time, they used the following equation to calculate the observable change in each generation:

R = (h^2).i.V.m

where R is the response, or the observable change in each generation, (h^2) is the heritability (i.e. the proportion of phenotypic variance which is genetically determined), i is the intensity of selection, V is the coefficient of variation (i.e. the ratio between the standard deviation and the mean in a population), and m is the mean in a population. Nilsson and Pelger assigned a value of 0.50 to the heritability (h^2), which they said was a common value: in normal cases, they claimed, the heritability is greater than 0.50. They then (pessimistically) assumed that i = 0.01 and V = 0.01, and arrived at a figure of 364,000 years.

I recently emailed a biologist – I won’t reveal his name, as he wishes to preserve his privacy – asking him for his comments on Nilsson and Pelger’s 364,000-year estimate. He replied that for him, speaking as a developmental biologist, the most serious problem with Nilsson and Pelger’s hypothesis was their estimate of the heritability (h^2), for the sort of variation that would be required to transform a flat patch of light-sensitive cells into a hemisphere over many generations.

The biologist whom I contacted argued that while different animals form eyes in various ways, in every case the developmental pathways that culminate in a functional eye are highly constrained. Although there are minor variations in normal eye morphology between individuals in any given species, there is no evidence that the developmental noise represented by those variations is genetically determined. In general, developmental pathways are specified by many more factors than DNA sequences. While DNA is necessary for generating
morphology and physiology, it is far from being sufficient. DNA isn’t everything: there is a lot of other information in the developing embryo that is arguably much more important than the information contained in its DNA. Heritability estimates based on genetic variation simply ignore all these other factors.

The biologist who advised me also pointed out that while heritable genetic mutations are sometimes responsible for some eye defects, none of them came anywhere close to accounting for the elaborate cumulative folding needed for Nilsson and Pelger’s hypothesis to work. In any case, since such defects are harmful, their selection coefficient would actually be negative. He concluded:

So the most realistic value for heritability in this case is 0.00, not 0.50. Zero times anything is zero, so Nilsson & Pelger’s hypothesis is dead from the start.

(h) Nilsson and Pelger’s model isn’t plausible at the biochemical level

Eighth and finally, Nilsson and Pelger fail to address the biochemical changes that must have occurred in the eye, during its evolution from a light-sensitive spot to a vertebrate eye.

Why biochemistry matters, when you are talking about the evolution of the eye

Visual phototransduction is a process by which light is converted into electrical signals in the rod cells, cone cells and photosensitive ganglion cells of the retina of the eye. The image above depicts an outer membrane disk in a rod cell. Image courtesy of Jason J. Corneveaux and Wikipedia.

Why, the reader might ask, is biochemistry such fundamental importance, when discussing the evolution of vision? Professor Michael Behe explained why in his 1996 article, Molecular Machines: Experimental Support for the Design Inference:

The relevant steps in biological processes occur ultimately at the molecular level, so a satisfactory explanation of a biological phenomenon such as sight, or digestion, or immunity, must include a molecular explanation. It is no longer sufficient, now that the black box of vision has been opened, for an ‘evolutionary explanation’ of that power to invoke only the anatomical structures of whole eyes, as Darwin did in the 19th century and as most popularizers of evolution continue to do today. Anatomy is, quite simply, irrelevant.

To illustrate his point, Professor Behe described the process whereby the human eye sees:

Let us return to the question, how do we see? Although to Darwin the primary event of vision was a black box, through the efforts of many biochemists an answer to the question of sight is at hand. When light strikes the retina a photon is absorbed by an organic molecule called 11-cis-retinal, causing it to rearrange within picoseconds to trans-retinal. The change in shape of retinal forces a corresponding change in shape of the protein, rhodopsin, to which it is tightly bound. As a consequence of the protein’s metamorphosis, the behavior of the protein changes in a very specific way. The altered protein can now interact with another protein called transducin. Before associating with rhodopsin, transducin is tightly bound to a small organic molecule called GDP, but when it binds to rhodopsin the GDP dissociates itself from transducin and a molecule called GTP, which is closely related to, but critically different from, GDP, binds to transducin.

The exchange of GTP for GDP in the transducinrhodopsin complex alters its behavior. GTP-transducinrhodopsin binds to a protein called phosphodiesterase, located in the inner membrane of the cell. When bound by rhodopsin and its entourage, the phosphodiesterase acquires the ability to chemically cleave a molecule called cGMP. Initially there are a lot of cGMP molecules in the cell, but the action of the phosphodiesterase lowers the concentration of cGMP. Activating the phosphodiesterase can be likened to pulling the plug in a bathtub, lowering the level of water.

A second membrane protein which binds cGMP, called an ion channel, can be thought of as a special gateway regulating the number of sodium ions in the cell. The ion channel normally allows sodium ions to flow into the cell, while a separate protein actively pumps them out again. The dual action of the ion channel and pump proteins keeps the level of sodium ions in the cell within a narrow range. When the concentration of cGMP is reduced from its normal value through cleavage by the phosphodiesterase, many channels close, resulting in a reduced cellular concentration of positively charged sodium ions. This causes an imbalance of charges across the cell membrane which, finally, causes a current to be transmitted down the optic nerve to the brain: the result, when interpreted by the brain, is vision.

If the biochemistry of vision were limited to the reactions listed above, the cell would quickly deplete its supply of 11-cis-retinal and cGMP while also becoming depleted of sodium ions. Thus a system is required to limit the signal that is generated and restore the cell to its original state; there are several mechanisms which do this. Normally, in the dark, the ion channel, in addition to sodium ions, also allows calcium ions to enter the cell; calcium is pumped back out by a different protein in order to maintain a constant intracellular calcium concentration. However, when cGMP levels fall, shutting down the ion channel and decreasing the sodium ion concentration, calcium ion concentration is also decreased. The phosphodiesterase enzyme, which destroys cGMP, is greatly slowed down at lower calcium concentration. Additionally, a protein called guanylate cyclase begins to resynthesize cGMP when calcium levels start to fall. Meanwhile, while all of this is going on, metarhodopsin II is chemically modified by an enzyme called rhodopsin kinase, which places a phosphate group on its substrate. The modified rhodopsin is then bound by a protein dubbed arrestin, which prevents the rhodopsin from further activating transducin. Thus the cell contains mechanisms to limit the amplified signal started by a single photon.

Trans-retinal eventually falls off of the rhodopsin molecule and must be reconverted to 11-cis-retinal and again bound by opsin to regenerate rhodopsin for another visual cycle. To accomplish this trans-retinal is first chemically modified by an enzyme to transretinol, a form containing two more hydrogen atoms. A second enzyme then isomerizes the molecule to 11-cis-retinol. Finally, a third enzyme removes the previously added hydrogen atoms to form 11-cis-retinal, and the cycle is complete.

The three-dimensional structure of rhodopsin. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

The “explanation” that doesn’t explain

At just one point in their paper do Nilsson and Pelger make any attempt to grapple with the underlying biochemistry of the eye, and that is in their discussion of the evolution of the lens. They write:

The development of a lens with a mathematically ideal distribution of refractive index may at first glance seem miraculous. Yet the elevation of refractive index in the lenses of both vertebrates and cephalopods is caused by proteins that are identical or similar to proteins with other cellular functions (Doolittle 1988; Goldsmith 1990; Winstow and Kim 1991; Land and Fernald 1992). Selection has thus recruited gene products that were already there. Assuming that selection operates on small but random phenotypic variations, no distribution of refractive index is inaccessible to selection.

Now, I don’t wish to contest Nilsson and Pelger’s claim that “Selection has thus recruited gene products that were already there.” Indeed, it turns out that the lenses of both vertebrate and cephalopod eyes are made of a protein called crystallin, and as this paper shows, crystallin is a protein which can be found even in simple sponges. Problem solved, right?

Not so fast. What this simplistic approach overlooks is the fact that crystallin comes in various forms – alpha, beta and gamma crystallin – each of which is strikingly different the others in the way it folds up, as these pictures illustrate. What’s more, the Wikipedia article on crystallin acknowledges that the crystallins used in the lens of the eye are quite different from one another, for different classes of animals:

“The crystallins of different groups of organisms are related to a large number of different proteins, with those from birds and reptiles related to lactate dehydrogenase and argininosuccinate lyase, those of mammals to alcohol dehydrogenase and quinone reductase, and those of cephalopods to glutathione S-transferase and aldehyde dehydrogenase. Whether these crystallins are products of a fortuitous accident of evolution, in that these particular enzymes happened to be transparent and highly-soluble, or whether these diverse enzymatic activities are part of the protective machinery of the lens, is an active research topic.

A box jellyfish has a nerve net, but no brain. Despite this, box jellyfish have no less than 24 eyes, of four different kinds, including true eyes, complete with retinas, corneas and lenses, although their visual resolution is poor. Box jellyfish also display complex, visually guided behaviors such as obstacle avoidance and fast directional swimming. They can also use terrestrial landmarks for navigation. Image courtesy of Wikipedia.

There’s more. The Wikipedia article on crystallin omits to mention cubozoan jellyfish, which also have complex eyes with crystallin lenses, although their resolution is much poorer than the vertebrate eye. A 1993 paper entitled, J1-crystallins of the Cubomedusan Jellyfish Lens Constitute a Novel Family Encoded in at Least Three Intronless Genes by Piatigorsky, Horwitz and Norman (The Journal of Biological Chemistry, Vol. 2643, No. 16, Issue of June 5, 1993, pp. 11894-11901), refers to three different families of proteins in the eyes of these jellyfish, and then goes on to discuss three particular proteins from the first of these families:

“The transparent cellular eye lens of the jellyfish (Tripedalia cystophora) contains three major proteins called J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins. Here we have isolated cDNAs encoding three novel 37-kDa Jl-crystallin polypeptides (JlA, JlB, and J1C) sharing 84-98% identity in amino acid sequences among themselves.”

The J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins found in cubozoan jellyfish represent families of proteins. By contrast, the JlA, JlB, and J1C crystallins described in the article above represent three very similar proteins belonging to the same family. (For the benefit of readers who are not familiar with chemical jargon, the 37-kDa figure in the above quote means that the molecule in question is about 37,000 times heavier than a hydrogen atom, or about 3,000 times heavier than a carbon atom. – VJT)

More recent work has shown profound chemical affinities between the J3-crystallin and vertebrate saposins, which are multifunctional proteins that bridge certain enzymes (called hydrolases) to fatty acids called lipids, and which also activate enzyme activity. This striking fact can be readily explained if we suppose that jellyfish and vertebrates share a common ancestor. (See J3-crystallin of the jellyfish lens: Similarity to saposins by Piatigorsky et al., Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Vol. 98, no. 22, October 23, 2001, www.pnas.org/cgi/doi/10.1073/pnas.231310698.)

But while there are indeed surprising similarities between proteins of the same family that may be found in different groups of animals, there are also considerable differences between the various families of proteins which may be found within the same animal. We need to ask: can Darwinian processes account for these differences? For instance, how can we be sure that the J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins found in cubozoan jellyfish all share a common chemical origin?

Is the inter-conversion between the different kinds of crystallin found in animals’ eyes likely to occur, via Darwinian processes?

At this point, a Darwinist might point to the 84-98% similarity figure between the three versions of J1-crystallin found in cubozoan jellyfish (JlA, JlB, and J1C) and argue, “It’s pretty easy to imagine one form of J1-crystallin converting into another, isn’t it? And given enough time, what is there to prevent inter-conversion between the J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins found in cubozoans?” However, even a similarity of 84% between two proteins of the same family is not as impressive as it sounds. What it means is that these two proteins, each of which contains several thousand atoms, have hundreds of chemical differences between them. [Update: The differences I’m speaking of here are at the atomic level; in a comment below, Nick Matzke helpfully points out that an 84% similarity would mean about 42 differences in amino acid sequence, or about 21 on each sister lineage – which, as I argue below, still appears to be beyond the reach of unguided evolution.] And this is the point where the numbers really start to matter.

Dr. Douglas Axe’s and Dr. Ann Gauger’s research on the question, “How hard would it be for evolution to produce a different function for a protein?” suggests that it would be virtually impossible (see this video), because six changes is the maximum that evolution can accomplish, during the history of the Earth.

There are good grounds for believing that Darwinian evolution is incapable of transforming a protein that performs one biological function into a different protein which is able to perform a brand new biological function. A recent paper by Dr. Ann K. Gauger and Dr. Douglas D. Axe, entitled, The Evolutionary Accessibility of New Enzyme Functions: A Case Study from the Biotin Pathway (BIO-Complexity 2011(1):1-17. doi:10.5048/BIO-C.2011.1) suggests that such transformations seldom, if ever, occur:

Abstract

Enzymes group naturally into families according to similarity of sequence, structure, and underlying mechanism. Enzymes belonging to the same family are considered to be homologs — the products of evolutionary divergence, whereby the first family member provided a starting point for conversions to new but related functions. In fact, despite their similarities, these families can include remarkable functional diversity. Here we focus not on minor functional variations within families, but rather on innovations — transitions to genuinely new catalytic functions. Prior experimental attempts to reproduce such transitions have typically found that many mutational changes are needed to achieve even weak functional conversion, which raises the question of their evolutionary feasibility. To further investigate this, we examined the members of a large enzyme superfamily, the PLP-dependent transferases, to find a pair with distinct reaction chemistries and high structural similarity. We then set out to convert one of these enzymes, 2-amino-3-ketobutyrate CoA ligase (Kbl2), to perform the metabolic function of the other, 8-amino-7-oxononanoate synthase (BioF2). After identifying and testing 29 amino-acid changes, we found three groups of active-site positions and one single position where Kbl2 side chains are incompatible with BioF2 function. Converting these side chains in Kbl2 makes the residues in the active-site cavity identical to those of BioF2, but nonetheless fails to produce detectable BioF2-like function in vivo. We infer from the mutants examined that successful functional conversion would in this case require seven or more nucleotide substitutions. But evolutionary innovations requiring that many changes would be extraordinarily rare, becoming probable only on timescales much longer than the age of life on earth. Considering that Kbl2 and BioF2 are judged to be close homologs by the usual similarity measures, this result and others like it challenge the conventional practice of inferring from similarity alone that transitions to new functions occurred by Darwinian evolution.

Excerpt from the paper:

The extent to which Darwinian evolution can explain enzymatic innovation seems, on careful inspection, to be very limited. Large-scale innovations that result in new protein folds appear to be well outside its range [5]. This paper argues that at least some small-scale innovations may also be beyond its reach.

Given these biochemical constraints on what Darwinian evolution can accomplish, it is by no means a foregone conclusion that the alpha crystallins present in the crystalline lens of the vertebrate eye could ever have naturally evolved into beta-gamma crystallins, which belong to an entirely different family. Likewise, it is doubtful whether the three families of crystallins (J1, J2, and J3) found in the eyes of cubozoan jellyfish could have developed from a common molecule without intelligent guidance.

These are the “nitty-gritty” questions that Nilsson and Pelger’s 1994 paper fails to address. Even if we grant for that a Darwinian account of the evolution of the eye might work at the anatomical level, it still needs to be shown that it can work at the biochemical level.

I conclude, then, that the 364,000-year estimate proposed by Nilsson and Pelger for the evolution of the eye is not a biologically realistic one: it applies only to a “toy” world where one structure can simply transform itself by imperceptible degrees into another. But without this estimate, the whole foundation for the Darwinian claim that the evolution of the vertebrate eye from a light-sensitive spot is a plausible occurrence collapses. All we are left with is theoretical possibility. And that, as we have seen, isn’t enough to make Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection a proper scientific theory.

At the beginning of this post, I posed the question: “Does Nilsson and Pelger’s model lend support to Intelligent Design or Darwinian evolution, or both?” We are now in a position to answer this question fairly definitively. The model was intelligently designed at every step. And while it shows that the eye might well have developed in a gradualistic fashion, it fails to show that natural selection could have accounted for this process. Therefore it provides no support whatsoever to Darwin’s theory of evolution.

Conclusion

As we have seen, there are good reasons for believing that the 364,000-year figure put forward by Nilsson and Pelger for the time required for the eye to have evolved is a fictitious estimate, which has no relevance to biology. However, I don’t wish to sound unduly critical of Nilsson and Pelger’s work: their demonstration that a series of sequential changes, occurring one at a time, could have transformed a light-sensitive spot into a vertebrate eye, was no mean feat, and the acclaim it received was well-deserved. I would also like to add that Dr. Nilsson’s new paper, entitled, “Eye evolution and its functional basis” (forthcoming in Visual Neuroscience, 2013, 30, doi:10.1017/S0952523813000035), marks a major advance on the 1994 paper he co-authored with Dr. Pelger, as it provides a comprehensive account of the evolution of vision in nearly all phyla of animals. Additionally, the new paper attempts to address the evolution of the eye at the biochemical and embryological levels, as well as the morphological level. I intend to discuss Nilsson’s new paper in my next post.

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Both Eric and William underestimate the power of the evolutionary promissory note, nor the power of the negative proof approach. ;) Who needs evidence when you have those in your arsenal?Joe
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If scientists do not know if necessity and chance are sufficient, they cannot say agency is unwarranted. The best they can say is simply "We don't know if chance and necessity is sufficient, and we do not know if agency is warranted".William J Murray
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What most ID (all?) ID advocates fail to understand is that when scientists say that an ID inference is unwarranted, they are not claiming that “necessity and chance.are sufficient explanations” – they are claiming that there is no evidence that they are insufficient explanations.
If an ID inference is unwarranted, that necessarily means that chance and necessity are sufficient because those three exhaust all the known possibilities. There are only three fundamental descriptions of how phenomena behaves; (1) lawful (regular, predictable), (2) chance (which some would claim is really subsumed by 1, and (3) directed by agency. To make the positive claim that (3) is unwarranted, one must be able to show that (1) and (2) are sufficient. But then, this only applies to those that abide by the principles of right reason. Those not so confined can say any foolish thing they want as if they are engaging in reasoned debate.William J Murray
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Joe @53: Thanks. I skimmed the comments quickly and didn't notice, so I'll go read Berlinski's response now. I expect it will be quite amusing, given Berlinski's writing style and the way Nick painted a bulls-eye on himself with that intellectual blunder. Maybe TalkReason should put a disclaimer on Nick's article along the following lines: "This article ignores the main substantive issue and relies on an unsubstantiated "just so" story. Cite at your own risk." BTW, I'm sure Nick is aware of Berlinski's response, but he probably only read the abstract. :)Eric Anderson
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Lizzie @49 via Joe: Gotta love Lizzie. Always good for a laugh. It is good to know, however, that scientists acknowledge chance and necessity are not sufficient explanations. That is an important admission and is a first step in the right direction. She is wrong, however, that there is no evidence chance and necessity are insufficient. Every experience we have suggests they are insufficient. Every reasonable calculation of what would be involved in the resources and timeframe of the universe suggests they are insufficient. So there is very good reason to think they are insufficient. Now, if what she is really saying is that it cannot be affirmatively proven that they are insufficient, then congratulations, she has just noted that it is not possible to prove a universal negative of this kind. Big deal. Everyone knows that and it is not how science operates. We can't prove that there aren't little mice on a treadmill in the middle of the Sun to power it. But we have good reason to think there aren't. If the lack of a universal negative proof is the foundation on which Lizzie wants to base her materialist creation myth, that is a very shaky foundation indeed. Finally, on the positive side of the evidence, we have lots of experience that intelligent beings are capable of producing functional complex systems -- in other words, unlike chance and necessity, design is a sufficient explanation. So, what was it again that ID advocates fail to understand, Lizzie?Eric Anderson
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Kuartus, Thanks very much for the link you supplied. The paper looks very interesting. Bornagain77, Thanks very much for the many useful links. Much appreciated.vjtorley
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Eric- Berlinski responded to Nick and provided a clear rebuttal. Either Nick never read it or thinks it best to ignore it.Joe
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Dr Liddle's point is also an error. The simple direct chalenge that the atomic and temporal resources available in our solar system or the cosm,os as a whole cannot scratch the surface of the config space for just 500 - 1,000 bits, much less the scope of FSCO/I in cases in question, is strong evidence that blind chance and mechanical necessity will be maximally implausible as explanations of such special configs as we are dealing with. This is of course the underlying analysis that undergirds the second law of thermodynamics, statistical form, but those who believe in informational perpetuum mobiles are unlikely to see the similarity to thinking that one can make a successful perpetuum mobile of the second kind. The point is that the utterly overwhelming bulk of possible configs will be gibberish of no function. KFkairosfocus
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Nick @34: Let's see. Berlinksi "asserts that one of the problems for eye evolution that Nilsson and Pelger did not consider was how the skull would be “reconstructed” to include eye sockets." Nick says this is not a problem because . . . wait for it . . . the skull did not have to be "reconstructed," but instead was "constructed." Ooh. Now we see. Reconstruction of a skull might be a problem for evolution, but construction of a skull with just the right measurements and parameters is not a problem, because it came after the eye. So according to Nick, change of an existing structure might be a problem; but formation of a new structure from whole cloth is not a problem. Cue laughter . . . This is so typical of Nick -- ignore the substantive point of the opponent and seize upon some (alleged) deficiency in the claim and then brush aside the real issue. Nick's response, however, just underscores Berlinski's point: no-one has a decent explanation of how this entire coordinated system -- eye, musculature, skull and socket -- could come together by purely natural and material means. It is just bluff and bluster. Another just so story. Way to go Nick. What a joke. I hope Nick didn't include that fine piece of intellectual brilliance in his publications list.Eric Anderson
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Joe @ 49: Lizzie's comment baffles. How is an ID inference any less a sufficient explanation than chance and necessity? So chance and necessity aren't sufficient. They're just not insufficient. How does that work?lpadron
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Lizzie chimes in to respond to WJM:
What most ID (all?) ID advocates fail to understand is that when scientists say that an ID inference is unwarranted, they are not claiming that “necessity and chance.are sufficient explanations” – they are claiming that there is no evidence that they are insufficient explanations.
LoL! Lizzie, there isn't any evidence that they are sufficient. Science requires POSITIVE evidence Liz, and your position doesn't have any. The best you can do is hide behind curtains of time. And that ain't science. Positive evidence Liz. If your position can't provide any then step aside and let others have a go.Joe
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Look Nick, You may know a lot about biology and evolution, but you're missing the point. We're not saying that the eye didn't evolve. We're just saying it evolved by intelligent design (and it also didn't evolve). I mean seriously, if the eye is sooo easy to evolve, why hasn't it been demonstrated in the lab already. I mean you keep saying that your scientists are so smart, right? So what gives. And anyway if scientists demonstrate eye evolution in the lab, that only goes to show you need intelligent design to evolve an eye.lastyearon
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Dr. Ross points out that the extremely long amount of time it took to prepare a suitable place for humans to exist in this universe, for the relatively short period of time that we can exist on this planet, is actually a point of evidence that argues strongly for Theism:
Hugh Ross - The Anthropic Principle and The Anthropic Inequality - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/8494065/ Anthropic Principle: A Precise Plan for Humanity By Hugh Ross Excerpt: Brandon Carter, the British mathematician who coined the term “anthropic principle” (1974), noted the strange inequity of a universe that spends about 15 billion years “preparing” for the existence of a creature that has the potential to survive no more than 10 million years (optimistically).,, Carter and (later) astrophysicists John Barrow and Frank Tipler demonstrated that the inequality exists for virtually any conceivable intelligent species under any conceivable life-support conditions. Roughly 15 billion years represents a minimum preparation time for advanced life: 11 billion toward formation of a stable planetary system, one with the right chemical and physical conditions for primitive life, and four billion more years toward preparation of a planet within that system, one richly layered with the biodeposits necessary for civilized intelligent life. Even this long time and convergence of “just right” conditions reflect miraculous efficiency. Moreover the physical and biological conditions necessary to support an intelligent civilized species do not last indefinitely. They are subject to continuous change: the Sun continues to brighten, Earth’s rotation period lengthens, Earth’s plate tectonic activity declines, and Earth’s atmospheric composition varies. In just 10 million years or less, Earth will lose its ability to sustain human life. In fact, this estimate of the human habitability time window may be grossly optimistic. In all likelihood, a nearby supernova eruption, a climatic perturbation, a social or environmental upheaval, or the genetic accumulation of negative mutations will doom the species to extinction sometime sooner than twenty thousand years from now. http://christiangodblog.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html
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Epistemology – Why Should The Human Mind Even Be Able To Comprehend Reality in the First Place? – Stephen Meyer - video – (Notes in description) http://vimeo.com/32145998
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Carrie Underwood with Vince Gill How Great thou Art – 720P HD – Standing Ovation! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLLMzr3PFgk
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In support of post 43: Besides conscious observation, (through recent breakthroughs in quantum mechanics), falsifying atheistic materialism as the true description of reality (or even the materialistic evolution of the eye in particular), it is also now found that the universe, and planet earth, are 'suspiciously' set up for conscious 'intelligent' observers, such as ourselves, to 'observe' and discovery the deep mysteries of the universe: i.e. Visible light is incredibly fine-tuned for life to exist. Though visible light is only a tiny fraction of the total electromagnetic spectrum coming from the sun, it happens to be the "most permitted" portion of the sun's spectrum allowed to filter through the our atmosphere. All the other bands of electromagnetic radiation, directly surrounding visible light, happen to be harmful to organic molecules, and are almost completely absorbed by the atmosphere. The tiny amount of harmful UV radiation, which is not visible light, allowed to filter through the atmosphere is needed to keep various populations of single cell bacteria from over-populating the world (Ross; reasons.org). The size of light's wavelengths and the constraints on the size allowable for the protein molecules of organic life, also seem to be tailor-made for each other. This "tailor-made fit" allows photosynthesis, the miracle of sight, and many other things that are necessary for human life. These specific frequencies of light (that enable plants to manufacture food and astronomers to observe the cosmos) represent less than 1 trillionth of a trillionth (10^-24) of the universe's entire range of electromagnetic emissions. Like water, visible light also appears to be of optimal biological utility (Denton; Nature's Destiny).
Extreme Fine Tuning of Light for Life and Scientific Discovery - video http://www.metacafe.com/w/7715887 Fine Tuning Of Universal Constants, Particularly Light - Walter Bradley - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4491552 Fine Tuning Of Light to the Atmosphere, to Biological Life, and to Water - graphs http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AYmaSrBPNEmGZGM4ejY3d3pfMTljaGh4MmdnOQ
Moreover, besides light being extremely fine tuned for life,,,:
The very conditions that make Earth hospitable to intelligent life also make it well suited to viewing and analyzing the universe as a whole. - Jay Richards Privileged Planet - Observability Correlation - Gonzalez and Richards - video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5424431 The Privileged Planet - video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnWyPIzTOTw The Privileged Planet: How Our Place in the Cosmos Is Designed for Discovery - book By Guillermo Gonzalez, Jay Wesley Richards http://books.google.com/books?id=KFdu4CyQ1k0C&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=#v=onepage&q&f=false
The following site is very interesting;
The Scale of The Universe - Part 2 - interactive graph (recently updated in 2012 with cool features) http://htwins.net/scale2/scale2.swf?bordercolor=white
The preceding interactive graph points out that the smallest scale visible to the human eye (as well as a human egg) is at 10^-4 meters, which 'just so happens' to be directly in the exponential center of all possible sizes of our physical reality (not just ‘nearly’ in the exponential center!). i.e. 10^-4 is, exponentially, right in the middle of 10^-35 meters, which is the smallest possible unit of length, which is Planck length, and 10^27 meters, which is the largest possible unit of 'observable' length since space-time was created in the Big Bang, which is the diameter of the universe. This is very interesting for, as far as I can tell, the limits to human vision (as well as the size of the human egg) could have, theoretically, been at very different positions than directly in the exponential middle of all possible sizes; A few more notes of related 'observability correlation' interest;
We Live At The Right Time In Cosmic History - Hugh Ross - video http://vimeo.com/31940671 The End Of Cosmology? - Lawrence M. Krauss and Robert J. Scherrer Excerpt: We are led inexorably to a very strange conclusion. The window during which intelligent observers can deduce the true nature of our expanding universe might be very short indeed. http://genesis1.asu.edu/0308046.pdf
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Dr.Torley: "Nick, why are you shouting?" Yes, why are you shouting Nicky? Is something the matter?Box
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William J Murray @ 42 I think that what most anti-ID advocates fail to understand is that when an ID advocate states that there is no evidence for “evolution”, what they usually mean is that there is no evidence that necessity and chance (in terms of natural selection and chance mutation) are sufficient explanations for all that we see in biology and in the fossil and molecular record. I would replace the word 'understand' with 'acknowledge'.bevets
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Mr. Matzke, it is interesting to note that in your vein attempt to defend the purely materialistic evolution of the eye that you have presupposed that the universe is materialistic. But that materialistic presupposition is shown to be, due to advances in quantum mechanics, false!
Quantum Evidence for a Theistic Big Bang https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agaJIWjPWHs5vtMx5SkpaMPbantoP471k0lNBUXg0Xo/edit The Galileo Affair and the true "Center of the Universe" Excerpt: because of advances in Quantum Mechanics, the argument for God from consciousness can now be framed like this: 1. Consciousness either precedes(ed) all of material reality or is a 'epi-phenomena' of material reality. 2. If consciousness is a 'epi-phenomena' of material reality then consciousness will be found to have no special position within material reality. Whereas conversely, if consciousness precedes material reality then consciousness will be found to have a special position within material reality. 3. Consciousness is found to have a special, even central, position within material reality. [14] 4. Therefore, consciousness is found to precede material reality. I find it extremely interesting, and strange, that quantum mechanics tells us that instantaneous quantum wave collapse to its 'uncertain' 3D state is centered on each individual conscious observer in the universe, whereas, 4D space-time cosmology (General Relativity) tells us each 3D point in the universe is central to the expansion of the universe. These findings of modern science are pretty much exactly what we would expect to see if this universe were indeed created, and sustained, from a higher dimension by a omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, eternal Being who knows everything that is happening everywhere in the universe at the same time. These findings certainly seem to go to the very heart of the age old question asked of many parents by their children, “How can God hear everybody’s prayers at the same time?”,,, i.e. Why should the expansion of the universe, or the quantum wave collapse of the entire universe, even care that you or I, or anyone else, should exist? Only Theism, Christian Theism in particular, offers a rational explanation as to why you or I, or anyone else, should have such undeserved significance in such a vast universe. [15] Psalm 33:13-15 The LORD looks from heaven; He sees all the sons of men. From the place of His dwelling He looks on all the inhabitants of the earth; He fashions their hearts individually; He considers all their works. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BHAcvrc913SgnPcDohwkPnN4kMJ9EDX-JJSkjc4AXmA/edit
Moreover Mr. Matzke, it is peculiar that you would try to defend the purely materialistic, 'random', origin of the eye. The reason I find this 'peculiar' is that conscious observation, which includes 'seeing' with the eye,,,
What does the term "measurement" mean in quantum mechanics? "Measurement" or "observation" in a quantum mechanics context are really just other ways of saying that the observer is interacting with the quantum system and measuring the result in toto. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597846
,,,is exactly what falsifies your 'necessary' random variable postulate at the base of your materialistic/atheistic philosophy. To illustrate this falsification Mr. Matzke, bear with me as I give some background,,
“It seems to me immensely unlikely that mind is a mere by-product of matter. For if my mental processes are determined wholly by the motions of atoms in my brain, I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true. They may be sound chemically, but that does not make them sound logically. And hence I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms. In order to escape from this necessity of sawing away the branch on which I am sitting, so to speak, I am compelled to believe that mind is not wholly conditioned by matter”. J. B. S. Haldane ["When I am dead," in Possible Worlds: And Other Essays [1927], Chatto and Windus: London, 1932, reprint, p.209.
In the following experiment, the claim that past material states 'randomly' determine future conscious choices (determinism) is falsified by the fact that present conscious choices effect past material states:
Quantum physics mimics spooky action into the past - April 23, 2012 Excerpt: The authors experimentally realized a "Gedankenexperiment" called "delayed-choice entanglement swapping", formulated by Asher Peres in the year 2000. Two pairs of entangled photons are produced, and one photon from each pair is sent to a party called Victor. Of the two remaining photons, one photon is sent to the party Alice and one is sent to the party Bob. Victor can now choose between two kinds of measurements. If he decides to measure his two photons in a way such that they are forced to be in an entangled state, then also Alice's and Bob's photon pair becomes entangled. If Victor chooses to measure his particles individually, Alice's and Bob's photon pair ends up in a separable state. Modern quantum optics technology allowed the team to delay Victor's choice and measurement with respect to the measurements which Alice and Bob perform on their photons. "We found that whether Alice's and Bob's photons are entangled and show quantum correlations or are separable and show classical correlations can be decided after they have been measured", explains Xiao-song Ma, lead author of the study. According to the famous words of Albert Einstein, the effects of quantum entanglement appear as "spooky action at a distance". The recent experiment has gone one remarkable step further. "Within a naïve classical world view, quantum mechanics can even mimic an influence of future actions on past events", says Anton Zeilinger. http://phys.org/news/2012-04-quantum-physics-mimics-spooky-action.html
In other words, if my conscious choices really are just the result of whatever 'random' state the material particles in my brain happen to be in in the past (determinism) how in blue blazes are my choices instantaneously effecting the state of material particles into the past?,, To add significantly more weight that the 'randomness' of material states does not determine conscious choices, here is another piece of evidence that solidly demarcates the randomness of the material particles of the universe from the randomness that would be necessarily inherent within 'conscious' creatures that were created by God, in His image, with free will:
Quantum Zeno effect Excerpt: The quantum Zeno effect is,,, an unstable particle, if observed continuously, will never decay. https://uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/tonights-feature-presentation-epigenetics-the-next-evolutionary-cliff/#comment-445840
Since material particles are held to 'randomly' decay by entropic processes, why in blue blazes is conscious observation putting a freeze on 'random' entropic decay, unless consciousness was/is more foundational to reality than 'random' entropic decay is? This point that consciousness is found to take precedence over the 'random' entropic processes of the universe, is really driven home when we realize that the initial entropy of the universe was 1 in 10^10^123, which is, by a far, far, amount the most finely tuned of initial conditions of the universe. (As well as in realizing that these extremely finely tuned entropic processes of the universe are ubiquitous in scientific explanations,,)
Roger Penrose discusses initial entropy of the universe. – video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhGdVMBk6Zo The Physics of the Small and Large: What is the Bridge Between Them? Roger Penrose Excerpt: “The time-asymmetry is fundamentally connected to with the Second Law of Thermodynamics: indeed, the extraordinarily special nature (to a greater precision than about 1 in 10^10^123, in terms of phase-space volume) can be identified as the “source” of the Second Law (Entropy).” How special was the big bang? – Roger Penrose Excerpt: This now tells us how precise the Creator’s aim must have been: namely to an accuracy of one part in 10^10^123. (from the Emperor’s New Mind, Penrose, pp 339-345 – 1989) Shining Light on Dark Energy - October 21, 2012 Excerpt: It (Entropy) explains time; it explains every possible action in the universe;,, Even gravity, Vedral argued, can be expressed as a consequence of the law of entropy. ,,, The principles of thermodynamics are at their roots all to do with information theory. Information theory is simply an embodiment of how we interact with the universe —,,, http://crev.info/2012/10/shining-light-on-dark-energy/
But if entropy can explain 'everything', why in blue blazes does conscious observation put a freeze on 'random' entropic decay unless consciousness is more foundational to reality than the initial entropy of the universe is?
"It will remain remarkable, in whatever way our future concepts may develop, that the very study of the external world led to the scientific conclusion that the content of the consciousness is the ultimate universal reality" - Eugene Wigner - (Remarks on the Mind-Body Question, Eugene Wigner, in Wheeler and Zurek, p.169) 1961 - received Nobel Prize in 1963 for 'Quantum Symmetries' "The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for the existence of God." Charles Darwin to Doedes, N. D. - Letter - 2 Apr 1873
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LIVING IN A QUANTUM WORLD - Vlatko Vedral - 2011 Excerpt: Thus, the fact that quantum mechanics applies on all scales forces us to confront the theory’s deepest mysteries. We cannot simply write them off as mere details that matter only on the very smallest scales. For instance, space and time are two of the most fundamental classical concepts, but according to quantum mechanics they are secondary. The entanglements are primary. They interconnect quantum systems without reference to space and time. If there were a dividing line between the quantum and the classical worlds, we could use the space and time of the classical world to provide a framework for describing quantum processes. But without such a dividing line—and, indeed, with­out a truly classical world—we lose this framework. We must ex­plain space and time (4D space-time) as somehow emerging from fundamental­ly spaceless and timeless physics. http://phy.ntnu.edu.tw/~chchang/Notes10b/0611038.pdf
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Phillips, Craig & Dean - When The Stars Burn Down - Worship Video with lyrics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPuxnQ_vZqY Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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I think that what most anti-ID advocates fail to understand is that when an ID advocate states that there is no evidence for "evolution", what they usually mean is that there is no evidence that necessity and chance (in terms of natural selection and chance mutation) are sufficient explanations for all that we see in biology and in the fossil and molecular record. ID theory doesn't claim that natural selection doesn't select; or that chance mutation doesn't occur; it doesn't claim that common descent-with-modification didn't occur; in fact, I don't know of any hard, scientific facts in evolutionary theory that are not fully compatible with ID theory. If anti-ID advocates claim that there is no metric (such as IC, FSCO/I, semiotic systems) by which something can be determined to (at least provisionally) require intelligent design as part of the sufficient explanation, then they admit they cannot have any evidence that chance and necessity (operating evolutionary mechanisms) are sufficient explanations for what we see in the biological world - because they have just admitted they have no metric for making such a determination. This makes the "chance and necessity" theme that runs throughout the evolutionary narrative nothing more than a metaphysical assumption for which Darwinists themselves claim there is no evidence (i.e., no metric that can make such a determination).William J Murray
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kuartus,,, and how is the 'narrative' that you cited, that uses 'tree thinking' to try to establish neo-Darwinian evolution as legitimate, any different from the multitude of 'just so' stories we have seen thus far from Darwinists that have ZERO empirical confirmation as to their plausibility?
Opening the “Black Box”: The Genetic and Biochemical Basis of Eye Evolution - 2008 Eyes provide a rich narrative for understanding evolution, having attracted the attention of preeminent scientists and communicators alike. Until recently, this narrative has focused primarily on the evolution of eye structure and far less on biochemistry or genetics. Although eye biochemistry was once likened to an unknown “black box;” the flood of discoveries in biochemistry is now allowing an increasingly detailed understanding of the processes involved in vision. As a result, evolutionary comparative (“tree-thinking”) analyses that use these data currently allow a new and still unfolding narrative, both richer in detail and more comprehensive in scope. Rather than toppling evolutionary theory by finding irreducibly complex molecular machines, eye evolution provides detailed accounts of how natural processes tinker with existing genetic components, duplicating and recombining them, to yield complex, intricate, and highly functional eyes. Understanding the new biochemical narrative is critical for researchers and teachers alike, in order to answer anti-evolutionist claims, and to provide an up-to-date account of the state of knowledge on the subject of eye evolution. http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12052-008-0090-3?LI=true
If I wanted 'narrative story telling' that presupposes 'tree thinking' to arrive at its conclusion I would buy a Tarzan novel! :) But alas we are dealing with science, (not with narrative story telling), the goal of which is not to assume your conclusion into the premise of your argument, as Darwinists continually do, but which is to prove your premise true by empirical demonstration independent of the 'narrative' so that the 'narrative' may be supported or not. And that is exactly what Darwinian story tellers do not have!:
Is gene duplication a viable explanation for the origination of biological information and complexity? - December 2010 - Excerpt: The totality of the evidence reveals that, although duplication can and does facilitate important adaptations by tinkering with existing compounds, molecular evolution is nonetheless constrained in each and every case. Therefore, although the process of gene duplication and subsequent random mutation has certainly contributed to the size and diversity of the genome, it is alone insufficient in explaining the origination of the highly complex information pertinent to the essential functioning of living organisms. © 2010 Wiley Periodicals, Inc. Complexity, 2011 http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cplx.20365/abstract The Limits of Complex Adaptation: An Analysis Based on a Simple Model of Structured Bacterial Populations Douglas D. Axe* Excerpt: In particular, I use an explicit model of a structured bacterial population, similar to the island model of Maruyama and Kimura, to examine the limits on complex adaptations during the evolution of paralogous genes—genes related by duplication of an ancestral gene. Although substantial functional innovation is thought to be possible within paralogous families, the tight limits on the value of d found here (d ? 2 for the maladaptive case, and d ? 6 for the neutral case) mean that the mutational jumps in this process cannot have been very large. http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2010.4/BIO-C.2010.4 An Insurmountable Problem for Darwinian Evolution - Gene Duplication - And Minor Transformation of Protein Function - May 2011 http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.com/entry/2011-05-16T17_01_43-07_00 "Biologist Douglas Axe on Evolution's (non) Ability to Produce New (Protein) Functions " - video Quote: It turns out once you get above the number six [changes in amino acids] -- and even at lower numbers actually -- but once you get above the number six you can pretty decisively rule out an evolutionary transition because it would take far more time than there is on planet Earth and larger populations than there are on planet Earth. http://intelligentdesign.podomatic.com/entry/2012-10-15T16_05_14-07_00 Reductive Evolution Can Prevent Populations from Taking Simple Adaptive Paths to High Fitness - May 2010 Excerpt: Despite the theoretical existence of this short adaptive path to high fitness, multiple independent lines grown in tryptophan-limiting liquid culture failed to take it. Instead, cells consistently acquired mutations that reduced expression of the double-mutant trpA gene. Our results show that competition between reductive and constructive paths may significantly decrease the likelihood that a particular constructive path will be taken. http://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/view/BIO-C.2010.2 Why Proteins (Protein Domains) Aren't Easily Recombined - Ann Gauger - May 2012 Excerpt: each particular helix or sheet has a distinct set of side chains sticking out from it, requiring a distinct set of chemical interactions with any nearby protein sequence. Thus, helices and sheets are sequence-dependent structural elements within protein folds. You can’t swap them around like lego bricks. This necessarily means that when you bring new secondary structure elements into contact by some sort of rearrangement, they will be unlikely to form a stable three dimensional fold without significant modification. http://www.biologicinstitute.org/post/22595615671/why-proteins-arent-easily-recombined
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BTW Nick Matzke- Berliski responded to your bit of spewage from 10 years ago. You do realize that humans have skulls, fish have skulls, well many organisms with eyes have skulls, Nick. Right? You do know that?Joe
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VJTorley, This looks like an interesting paper: Opening the “Black Box”: The Genetic and Biochemical Basis of Eye Evolution http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12052-008-0090-3?LI=truekuartus
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Nick Matzke, Neither you nor anyone else on this planet knows whether or not any eye can evolve from an eyespot via accumulations of genetic accidents. IOW tere aren't any serious scientists who support that claim that it could. Do you even have any way to test your position's claims? Obvioulsy not, so why don't you focus on your position's shortcomings as opposed to trying to bash ID with your ignorance?Joe
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Incredibly Mr. Matzke appeals to the already present multifunctionality of proteins as proof that proteins can evolve into new functions. This is simply completely ludicrous for him to do so.,,,
Now Evolution Must Have Evolved Different Functions Simultaneously in the Same Protein - Cornelius Hunter - December 1, 2012 Excerpt: Simply put, evolution either must have evolved two independent designs simultaneously in the same protein, or it must have been a two-fer, evolving the one design and getting the second for free. Either way the evidence does not bode well for evolution. http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2012/12/now-evolution-must-have-evolved.html Moonlighting Proteins: Proteins with Multiple Functions - Online Publication date 2009 Introduction Moonlighting proteins, also referred to as ‘gene sharing’, refer to a subset of multifunctional proteins in which two or more different functions are performed by one polypeptide chain, and the multiple functions are not a result of splice variants, gene fusions, or multiple isoforms [1]. In addition, they do not include proteins with the same function in multiple locations or protein families in which different members have different functions, if each individual member has only one function. A single protein with multiple functions may seem surprising, but there are actually many cases of proteins that ‘moonlight’. Examples and mechanisms of combining two functions in one protein: The current examples of moonlighting proteins include enzymes, DNA binding proteins, receptors, transmembrane channels, chaperones and ribosomal proteins (Table 4.1). In general, there are several different methods by which a moonlighting protein can combine two functions within one polypeptide chain. A single protein can have a second function when it moves to a different cellular location; when it is expressed in a different cell type; when it binds a substrate, product, or cofactor; when it interacts with another protein to form a multimer, or when it interacts with a large multiprotein complex. In addition, a few enzymes have two active sites for different substrates (Figure 4.1). The methods are not mutually exclusive and sometimes a combination of methods is employed. http://ebooks.cambridge.org/chapter.jsf?bid=CBO9780511546310&cid=CBO9780511546310A013
Moreover, even though the cell is permeated with multifuctional proteins, neo-Darwinian processes are shown to grossly inadequate to account for even a simple function: It is interesting to note, in contrast to Axe's 1 in 10^77 estimate, that the 1 in 10^12 (trillion) estimate for functional proteins (Szostak), that some Darwinists cite from time to time, though still very rare and of insurmountable difficulty for a materialist to use in any evolutionary scenario,,,, How Proteins Evolved - Cornelius Hunter - December 2010 Excerpt: Comparing ATP binding with the incredible feats of hemoglobin, for example, is like comparing a tricycle with a jet airplane. And even the one in 10^12 shot, though it pales in comparison to the odds of constructing a more useful protein machine, is no small barrier. If that is what is required to even achieve simple ATP binding, then evolution would need to be incessantly running unsuccessful trials. The machinery to construct, use and benefit from a potential protein product would have to be in place, while failure after failure results. Evolution would make Thomas Edison appear lazy, running millions of trials after millions of trials before finding even the tiniest of function. http://darwins-god.blogspot.com/2010/12/how-proteins-evolved.html ,,, is detrimental. Szostak's 'evolved' 1 in 10^12 ATP binding protein (although the binding protein was arrived at by intelligent guidance) is shown to be detrimental to life:
A Man-Made ATP-Binding Protein Evolved Independent of Nature Causes Abnormal Growth in Bacterial Cells - 2009 Excerpt: "Recent advances in de novo protein evolution have made it possible to create synthetic proteins from unbiased libraries that fold into stable tertiary structures with predefined functions. However, it is not known whether such proteins will be functional when expressed inside living cells or how a host organism would respond to an encounter with a non-biological protein. Here, we examine the physiology and morphology of Escherichia coli cells engineered to express a synthetic ATP-binding protein evolved entirely from non-biological origins. We show that this man-made protein disrupts the normal energetic balance of the cell by altering the levels of intracellular ATP. This disruption cascades into a series of events that ultimately limit reproductive competency by inhibiting cell division." http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0007385 Strange Behavior: New Study Exposes Living Cells to Synthetic Protein - Dec. 27, 2012 Excerpt: ,,,"ATP is the energy currency of life," Chaput says. The phosphodiester bonds of ATP contain the energy necessary to drive reactions in living systems, giving up their stored energy when these bonds are chemically cleaved. The depletion of available intracellular ATP by DX binding disrupts normal metabolic activity in the cells, preventing them from dividing, (though they continue to grow).,,, In the current study, E. coli cells exposed to DX transitioned into a filamentous form, which can occur naturally when such cells are subject to conditions of stress. The cells display low metabolic activity and limited cell division, presumably owing to their ATP-starved condition. The study also examined the ability of E. coli to recover following DX exposure. The cells were found to enter a quiescent state known as viable but non-culturable (VBNC), meaning that they survived ATP sequestration and returned to their non-filamentous state after 48 hours, but lost their reproductive capacity. Further, this condition was difficult to reverse and seems to involve a fundamental reprogramming of the cell. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/12/121227143001.htm
Thus Mr. Matzke, why in blue blazes do think that multifunctional proteins are proof of evolution when you can't even demostrate the evolution of a single protein that would be beneficial to life?bornagain77
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A Pessimistic Estimate of the Time Required for a Non Sequitur to Evolveenglishmaninistanbul
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Nick, Thank you for your posts. I was expecting to hear from you. A few quick points: 1. Pardon my directness, but your posts are a classic example of not seeing the wood for the trees. The two main points about Nilsson and Pelger's model which I made in my article were that (a) the model was not based on a computer simulation, and (b) each and every one of the 1,829 steps from a light-sensitive spot to a vertebrate eye was planned in painstaking detail, by Nilsson and Pelger. The first point is of course old news: it was made by Dr. Berlinski many years ago, as I acknowledged in my post. The second point, however, is big news: most evolutionary biologists (including Professors Jerry Coyne and Richard Dawkins) are apparently still under the impression that the model employed random variations, when in fact it did nothing of the sort. At the very least, Coyne will have to re-write his textbook, Why Evolution is True, as it makes a factually incorrect claim: "They [Nilsson and Pelger - VJT] then allowed the tissues around this structure to deform themselves randomly, limiting the amount of change to only 1% of size or thickness at each step." (Emphasis mine - VJT.) That's not true. 2. I then put forward no less than eight reasons why the 364,000-year estimate provided by Nilsson and Pelger in their paper could not be taken seriously. You focused on just one of my reasons, relating to biochemistry. (I'll say more about that below.) Even if you were correct in your criticisms, that still leaves seven good reasons for dismissing the estimate. 3. I then argued that in the absence of a credible estimate for how long it would have taken an eye to evolve from a light-sensitive spot, Nilsson and Pelger could not be said to have demonstrated that the evolution of the eye by natural selection was scientifically plausible, and that their paper therefore could not be legitimately invoked in support of Darwinism. Rather, it supports a gradualistic version of Intelligent Design, as each their model merely demonstrates that a clever designer could transform a light-sensitive spot into a vertebrate eye, one step at a time. 4. You spend a great deal of time bringing up points from Berlinski's 2003 article, A Scientific Scandal? David Berlinski & Critics (Commentary, July 8, 2003), which I never made in my article. Sorry Nick, but we're in the year 2013 now, not 2003. The fact that I quote from an article like Berlinksi's does not mean that I endorse it in its entirety. Yes, I am well aware that skulls came long after eyes. (So what?) I've read the criticisms of Berlinski on the Internet; that was why I was careful about what I quoted from his article. The quotes which I made from Berlinski's article in my post related to substantial criticisms of Nilsson and Pelger's model, which evolutionary biologists have never satisfactorily answered. 5. You write:
As Nilsson notes, in some cases, "crystallins" are IDENTICAL to enzymes serving enzymatic roles in other cells! I.e., a "crystallin" and an "enzyme" can be the SAME FRIGGIN' PROTEIN! What name you give it depends only on what tissue you find it in.
Nick, why are you shouting? I already know this. Here's a quote from the Wikipedia article on crystallin, which I cited in my post:
The main function of crystallins at least in the lens of the eye is probably to increase the refractive index while not obstructing light. However, this is not their only function. It is becoming increasingly clear that crystallins may have several metabolic and regulatory functions, both within the lens and in other parts of the body.
And here's a quote from my post, above:
Indeed, it turns out that the lenses of both vertebrate and cephalopod eyes are made of a protein called crystallin, and as this paper shows, crystallin is a protein which can be found even in simple sponges.
I'm quite familiar with co-option, Nick. I wasn't born yesterday, you know. The criticism I made was not about the difficulty of transforming "enzymes" used in other parts of the body into "crystallins" - for as you correctly note, that would require 0% evolution: they're already there in the body. The real difficulty, as I pointed out, was about converting one kind of crystallin (e.g. alpha-crystallin) into another (e.g. beta-gamma-crystallin). As I wrote in my post:
There are good grounds for believing that Darwinian evolution is incapable of transforming a protein that performs one biological function into a different protein which is able to perform a brand new biological function.
Nothing in the foregoing quote rules out the possibility of one protein having two or more biological functions within the human body. My point was simply that proteins that do one or more jobs seem incapable of evolving into new kinds of proteins whose chemical configuration allows them to do different jobs. 6. You make the following astonishing remark:
Has anyone even claimed that these different crystallins are related? (I haven't researched it.) If not, you are criticizing a non-existent claim.
Let me ask you directly: are you now conceding that it's impossible for proteins in one family to evolve into proteins from another family, over geological time? Are you saying that J1-crystallin can't transform into J2-crystallin, and that alpha-crystallin can't be transformed into beta-gamma-crystallin, over a period of billions of years? That would be quite a concession, Nick. You might want to ask your biochemist friends before making a concession that you subsequently regret. 7. In my post, I wrote:
However, even a similarity of 84% between two proteins of the same family is not as impressive as it sounds. What it means is that these two proteins, each of which contains several thousand atoms, have hundreds of chemical differences between them.
When I said "hundreds of differences," I was talking about atoms. As I pointed out in my post, the J1-crystallin molecules weigh 37,000 daltons each, which is about the weight of 3,000 carbon atoms. So a 16% difference would still mean a difference of a few hundred atoms: hardly a difference to be sneezed at. You wrote:
For someone claiming that numbers matter, you didn't try very hard. J1-crystallins are only about 260 amino acids long: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pr.....crystallin 84% similar would mean about 42 differences in amino acid sequence, or about 21 on each sister lineage, not hundreds/thousands of changes!
We're both correct here, but on different levels. You're talking about amino acids; I'm talking abut atoms. But let's go with amino acids, as the changes involved would have occurred on that level. You argue that that 21 amino acid changes on each sister lineage isn't such a lot. But the article by Drs. Gauger and Axe, entitled, The Evolutionary Accessibility of New Enzyme Functions: A Case Study from the Biotin Pathway (BIO-Complexity 2011(1):1-17. doi:10.5048/BIO-C.2011.1) which I cited above claims that even "seven or more nucleotide substitutions" in an enzyme may be beyond the reach of Darwinian evolution. (And before you start putting words into my mouth, I'm well aware that a nucleotide isn't the same thing as an amino acid.) Note too that we're just talking here about two proteins belonging to the same family: the J1-family of crystallins, found in jellyfish. Note also that I avoided dogmatism in my article: I did not say that inter-conversion between J1A and J1B-crystallin was impossible, as I was well aware that they belong to the same family. I merely claimed that its possibility had not been demonstrated. I then argued that if even this inter-conversion was difficult for evolution to accomplish, then a fortiori, conversions between proteins of different families would be all the more difficult. 8. You dismiss the paper I cited by Drs. Gauger and Axe in one paragraph:
Then there is a bunch of bafflegab about how changing protein function is supposed to be virtually impossible, ignoring all of the actual peer-reviewed literature on protein evolution, and instead relying wholly on a single Discovery-Institute-produced paper which looked at one specific system and made basic mistakes like (a) trying to convert protein A into protein B, rather than both from a common ancestor; (b) failing to distinguish between essential, compensatory, and neutral differences; (c) failing to survey the diversity of sequences that could perform each function; (d) failing to survey the diversity of entirely different structures that could perform the same function.
Nick, Dr. Douglas Axe has published in the Journal of Molecular Biology and the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Dr. Ann Gauger has published in the Journal of Biological Chemistry. They're no slouches, and they don't make stupid mistakes. You're a doctoral student; with all due respect, I think their credibility on protein evolution is considerably greater than your own. May I also point out that the criticisms you raise have been answered already, in the following tow posts at Evolution News and Views: On Protein Evolution, PZ Myers Is Way Off the Mark and On Enzymes and Teleology, both by Dr. Ann Gauger. Here's an excerpt from the second post (emphases mine), written in response to criticisms by Paul McBride:
Our results indicated that a minimum of seven mutations would be required to convert or reconfigure one enzyme toward the other's function. No one disputes that part of our research. What Paul McBride and others claim is that because we didn't start from an "ancestral" enzyme, our results mean nothing. They say something like, "Of course transitions to new chemistries between modern enzymes are difficult. What you should have done is to reconstruct the ancestral form and use it as a starting point." Have you noticed the assumption underlying this critique? The assumption is that genuine conversions can be achieved only if you start from just the right ancestral protein. Why is that? Because conversions are hard. McBride said as much in his post, tacitly acknowledging the legitimacy of our results, in the following quote:
Any biologist or biochemist could imagine useful new molecules in a given species that would aid their survival. Little imagination is needed, as many examples are found in other species. A simple example: an enzyme that breaks down cellulose into simple sugars would be immensely beneficial for virtually any heterotroph, yet such cellulases are only found in a handful of organisms, restricted to certain clades. Evolution is not a process that is capable of producing anything and everything, at all times in all species. It is, conversely, a greatly constrained process. A developmental biologist such as PZ Myers knows the minutiae of this constraint in particular models. Much of the process of evolution is guided by purifying selection - pruning those mutants that are at relative disadvantages to the general population - and most of the genomic change that does spread through populations is neutral and escapes selection altogether. Yes, transitioning between different enzyme functions is hard, but this is evidenced by it being relatively uncommon. In a broader sense, and to reiterate, many of the possible variations on life that we could imagine to exist do not exist. [Emphasis added.]
The problem then becomes, where did the diverse families of enzymes come from, if transitions are so hard, evolution is so constrained, and selection is so weak? Were the ur-proteins from which present families sprang so different from modern ones, so elastic that they could be easily molded to perform multiple functions? If so, how did they accomplish the specific necessary tasks for metabolism, transcription, and replication? More than that, how did the proteins necessary for replication, transcription, translation, and metabolism arrive at all, if evolution is so constrained? Those processes are much more complicated that a cellulase enzyme. We have ribosomes, spliceosomes, photosynthesis, and respiration. We have hummingbirds and carnivorous plants and even cows who make use of cellulose-degrading symbionts. The things that have not arrived or arrived very rarely, like cellulases, seem trivial by comparison to the things we see around us.
If I were you, Nick, I'd think again, before dismissing what Drs. Gauger and Axe wrote as "one flawed paper." More to the point, the key issue which I raised on this post is whether Nilsson and Pelger's post could be legitimately used to argue in support of Darwinism. You have utterly failed to show that it can be. My criticisms still stand.vjtorley
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As for the Berlinski article, Dawkins's "computer simulation" mistake, etc. -- this was all well covered in the responses to Berlinski's article that were published in Commentary in a subsequent issue: http://www.talkreason.org/articles/blurred.cfm E.g., my response -- see also Nilsson's response from back then.
Berlinski's Blurred Vision By Nicholas Matzke Goleta, CA While Berlinski should be congratulated for pointing out Dawkins' inaccurate popularization of Nilsson and Pelger's article on eye evolution as a stochastic computer simulation (it was actually a mathematical model), Berlinski should remove the plank from his own (discussion of the) eye. In "A Scientific Scandal" he asserts that one of the problems for eye evolution that Nilsson and Pelger did not consider was how the skull would be "reconstructed" to include eye sockets. But as any decent student who has taken even high school biology would know (at least as long as evolution was not expunged due to creationist political arm twisting), eyes evolved before bones! Cephalochordates, the closest invertebrate relatives of vertebrates, have primitive eyes but no bones. In fact, based on genetic evidence many biologists now think that vertebrate eyes share a common ancestral eyespot with insect eyes, the common ancestor being a perhaps millimeter-long, nearly transparent but eyespot-equipped worm. Unfortunately, it is a typical creationist strawman to envision eye evolution as occurring on some kind of mythical ancestral eyeless fish with a fully formed skull, brain, etc. On the contrary, biologists (who actually know some biology) know that all manner of gradations of eye complexity exist in extant organisms, from creatures with an "eye" consisting of a single photoreceptor cell, through all of the various stages that Nilsson and Pelger depict, to the "advanced" camera eyes of mammals and cephalopods. Sometimes the whole sequence from eyespot to advanced eye with lens can be seen in a single group (e.g. snails), yet another thing which Berlinski would have known if he'd followed the reference that Nilsson and Pelger gave to the actual classic work on eye evolution, a monster 56 page article by Salvini-Plawen and Mayr in the journal Evolutionary Biology (volume 10, 1977) that reviewed hundreds of papers on eyes across the animal kingdom, and with the fairly clear title "On the evolution of photoreceptors and eyes". The paper answers many of the questions which Berlinski asserts are unanswered or unanswerable. Complex eyes with lenses have even evolved in single-celled dinoflagellates, which have no blood vessels, brains, or numerous other features Berlinski is concerned about. Berlinski on the other hand has a brain as well as eyes, but apparently does not see when it comes to biology. He is not a creationist but he certainly seems to hang out with them and uncritically repeats many of their arguments, unaware of the biological facts that contradict them. If Berlinski is going to declare as bunk the central organizing theory of biology, he should be taking the matter up with biologists in the professional literature, rather than in forums like Commentary, wherein elementary questions like "which came first, skulls or eyes?" can be botched and yet still get published.
Heck, my response from 10 years ago covers several silly remarks people are making even in this thread. 1. Skulls came long after eyes. If you are imagining that eyes evolved in a fish or something with a complete skull, skin, etc., you are doing it wrong. Tiny transparent worms would be a lot closer to the truth. 2. Brains and muscles and the rest are unnecessary for camera eyes, as proven by single-celled critters with camera eyes. 3. IDists/creationists constantly and irremediably make biology mistakes of the most basic sort, can't be bothered to double-check before asserting mistaken scientific "facts", don't correct each other's mistakes, and don't improve over time. Instead it's "amateur hour" forever failing to even reach mediocrity. 4. And this is why serious scientists, who do know the facts, won't ever take IDists seriously. They haven't earned it.NickMatzke_UD
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This article is indeed above-average for an ID contribution. Unfortunately, it still has various big problems/oversights. It would take a long post to cover them all. Let's start with the discussion of crystallins, which is a complete shambles:
Not so fast. What this simplistic approach overlooks is the fact that crystallin comes in various forms – alpha, beta and gamma crystallin – each of which is strikingly different the others in the way it folds up, as these pictures illustrate. What’s more, the Wikipedia article on crystallin acknowledges that the crystallins used in the lens of the eye are quite different from one another, for different classes of animals:
“The crystallins of different groups of organisms are related to a large number of different proteins, with those from birds and reptiles related to lactate dehydrogenase and argininosuccinate lyase, those of mammals to alcohol dehydrogenase and quinone reductase, and those of cephalopods to glutathione S-transferase and aldehyde dehydrogenase. Whether these crystallins are products of a fortuitous accident of evolution, in that these particular enzymes happened to be transparent and highly-soluble, or whether these diverse enzymatic activities are part of the protective machinery of the lens, is an active research topic.”
(removing tendentious bolding) Random stuff is bolded, as if these provide reasons to question the standard evolutionary account. In fact, the fact that crystallins in different groups are entirely unrelated to each other, and instead each related to enzymes with totally different functions, is evidence that the "crystallin" function is very easy to evolve, and that a great diversity of enzymes can serve as the starting point. Then there is a bunch of bafflegab about how changing protein function is supposed to be virtually impossible, ignoring all of the actual peer-reviewed literature on protein evolution, and instead relying wholly on a single Discovery-Institute-produced paper which looked at one specific system and made basic mistakes like (a) trying to convert protein A into protein B, rather than both from a common ancestor; (b) failing to distinguish between essential, compensatory, and neutral differences; (c) failing to survey the diversity of sequences that could perform each function; (d) failing to survey the diversity of entirely different structures that could perform the same function. From this one flawed paper, VJ Torley draws a grand conclusion that one should be skeptical not only of the evolution of the system they studied, but all changes of protein function anywhere in evolution, even the case of crystallin evolution. Never mind that there is no such thing as a "sequence target" or "sequence specificity" for crystallins -- completely unrelated proteins and structures are able to serve the role! In reality, all you really need for crystallin function is a water-soluble protein that remains clear and soluble at elevated concentrations. A great many enzymes would qualify, since most of them are water-soluble, and many of them are already expressed at high concentration in certain cells. Basically any soluble protein expressed at high concentration in a tissue would increase the refractive index of the tissue, and that's the only function that is needed to be called a "crystallin". As Nilsson notes, in some cases, "crystallins" are IDENTICAL to enzymes serving enzymatic roles in other cells! I.e., a "crystallin" and an "enzyme" can be the SAME FRIGGIN' PROTEIN! What name you give it depends only on what tissue you find it in. This by itself falsifies Torley's ridiculous assertions here:
There are good grounds for believing that Darwinian evolution is incapable of transforming a protein that performs one biological function into a different protein which is able to perform a brand new biological function. [...]
The extent to which Darwinian evolution can explain enzymatic innovation seems, on careful inspection, to be very limited. Large-scale innovations that result in new protein folds appear to be well outside its range [5]. This paper argues that at least some small-scale innovations may also be beyond its reach.
Given these biochemical constraints on what Darwinian evolution can accomplish, it is by no means a foregone conclusion that the alpha crystallins present in the crystalline lens of the vertebrate eye could ever have naturally evolved into beta-gamma crystallins, which belong to an entirely different family. Likewise, it is doubtful whether the three families of crystallins (J1, J2, and J3) found in the eyes of cubozoan jellyfish could have developed from a common molecule without intelligent guidance.
Actually, enzymes can apparently be "transformed" into "crystallins" with 0% evolution! Just up-regulate the expression in the eye tissue. More evidence, from your very own link on crystallin structures:
Moonlighting Proteins Alpha, beta and gamma crystallins are found in most animals, but they are assisted by other crystallins in different animals. Often, these proteins also have another function elsewhere in the body, and are moonlighting as crystallins. Three examples are shown here: delta crystallin from ducks (PDB entry 1hy1) also acts as the enzyme argininosuccinate lyase, epsilon crystallin from elephant shrew (PDB entry 1o9j) is an aldehyde dehydrogenase that acts on retinal, and lambda crystallin from rabbits (PDB entry 3ado) also acts as the enzyme L-gulonate 3-dehydrogenase.
Whoops! I guess being a crystallin isn't so hard after all. Also, other mistakes:
What this simplistic approach overlooks is the fact that crystallin comes in various forms – alpha, beta and gamma crystallin – each of which is strikingly different the others in the way it folds up, as these pictures illustrate. What’s more, the Wikipedia article on crystallin acknowledges that the crystallins used in the lens of the eye are quite different from one another, for different classes of animals [...] Given these biochemical constraints on what Darwinian evolution can accomplish, it is by no means a foregone conclusion that the alpha crystallins present in the crystalline lens of the vertebrate eye could ever have naturally evolved into beta-gamma crystallins, which belong to an entirely different family.
Has anyone even claimed that these different crystallins are related? (I haven't researched it.) If not, you are criticizing a non-existent claim. The usual claim about crystallins is the opposite: they have been repeatedly coopted from different, non-crystallin enzymes. And, also:
There’s more. The Wikipedia article on crystallin omits to mention cubozoan jellyfish, which also have complex eyes with crystallin lenses, although their resolution is much poorer than the vertebrate eye. A 1993 paper entitled, J1-crystallins of the Cubomedusan Jellyfish Lens Constitute a Novel Family Encoded in at Least Three Intronless Genes by Piatigorsky, Horwitz and Norman (The Journal of Biological Chemistry, Vol. 2643, No. 16, Issue of June 5, 1993, pp. 11894-11901), refers to three different families of proteins in the eyes of these jellyfish, and then goes on to discuss three particular proteins from the first of these families: “The transparent cellular eye lens of the jellyfish (Tripedalia cystophora) contains three major proteins called J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins. Here we have isolated cDNAs encoding three novel 37-kDa Jl-crystallin polypeptides (JlA, JlB, and J1C) sharing 84-98% identity in amino acid sequences among themselves.” The J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins found in cubozoan jellyfish represent families of proteins. By contrast, the JlA, JlB, and J1C crystallins described in the article above represent three very similar proteins belonging to the same family. (For the benefit of readers who are not familiar with chemical jargon, the 37-kDa figure in the above quote means that the molecule in question is about 37,000 times heavier than a hydrogen atom, or about 3,000 times heavier than a carbon atom. – VJT) [...] At this point, a Darwinist might point to the 84-98% similarity figure between the three versions of J1-crystallin found in cubozoan jellyfish (JlA, JlB, and J1C) and argue, “It’s pretty easy to imagine one form of J1-crystallin converting into another, isn’t it? And given enough time, what is there to prevent inter-conversion between the J1-, J2-, and J3-crystallins found in cubozoans?” However, even a similarity of 84% between two proteins of the same family is not as impressive as it sounds. What it means is that these two proteins, each of which contains several thousand atoms, have hundreds of chemical differences between them. And this is the point where the numbers really start to matter.
For someone claiming that numbers matter, you didn't try very hard. J1-crystallins are only about 260 amino acids long: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/?term=J1-crystallin 84% similar would mean about 42 differences in amino acid sequence, or about 21 on each sister lineage, not hundreds/thousands of changes! Is this really so hard to accept over millions of years of evolution? Furthermore, the typical situation in proteins is that most changes are basically conservative and neutral, so you can't even argue that all those changes were required, had to happen at once, or even had to be the product of selection. I changed my mind. Actually VJ Torley's piece isn't above average, it's just standard ID blustering-without-doing-the-bare-minimum-to-understand-the-basics. The same low-quality, low-effort, know-the-answer-so-won't-bother-with-the-research junk that ID puts out every day. Too bad.
For some time now, Darwinists have been fighting – and generally winning – arguments against critics who contended that Darwinian evolution was impossible. They have won these arguments in two ways: firstly, by identifying a scientific flaw in their critics’ assumptions, which either invalidates their anti-Darwinian arguments or calls them into question
Well, that part is right at least.NickMatzke_UD
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21 NickMatzke_UDMarch 19, 2013 at 1:55 pm
This is a great article, vjtorley. I didn’t really read it, but I scrolled through it, and saw the pictures, which gave me all the info I needed to be able to determine that evolution could never have produced the eye
LOL! UD Editors: Nick, we assume you don’t know that comments like this make you look like an idiot. Otherwise you would not make them. Accordingly, for your dignity’s sake, we are informing you as follows: “Comments like this make you look like an idiot.”
Hmm. So the person who says he didn't read something, just glanced at the pictures, and concludes that entire scientific fields are bogus is just fine, and I'm the idiot because I expressed some skepticism about the "just look at the pictures" view? Good luck conducting your scientific revolution with that kind of attitude...NickMatzke_UD
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"A Pessimistic Estimate of the Time Required for an Eye to Evolve", is a highly deceptive title. Nilsson and Pelger should have at least added "at the morphological level" and probabably also "which is next to nothing in comparison with the molecular level" and "BTW, we've forgotten about the brain"Box
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