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Sigh. We need a map. No, listen:

From Twitlonger:

I’m accused by @ggreenwald of refusing to be interviewed by Muslim journalists! Here’s what actually happened.

I was at a Royal Society meeting to launch the new Stephen Hawking Prize for Science Communication sponsored by @STARMUSfestival, the imaginative conference series that brings scientists together with astronauts and creative musicians. The very nice PR woman arranged press interviews for the speakers. Science communication is dear to my heart, and I agreed to be pulled out of the conference for a series of interviews, on condition that the journalists would ask me about the Hawking Prize & STARMUS, not religion. One journalist, from New Statesman, soon made it clear that he wanted to talk of nothing but religion. My impatience grew, fed by my desire to rejoin the conference. I kept trying to drag him back to the agreed topic. Eventually, the PR woman arrived & signalled to the journalist that his time was up, but he asked to be allowed to carry on. He had just admitted that he believed in flying horses. In exasperation that I had left the conference to talk to a time-wasting journalist whose world view was ludicrously unconnected with reality, I terminated the interview and went off with the PR woman. I now find myself accused of refusing to be interviewed by Muslim journalists! More.

Something happened here … What?  Also, why aren’t other people involved in this kind of controversy? It doesn’t come up every day.

See also: Dawkins is distressed by the idea of hating religious people. To judge from past history and the responses, Dawkins’s followers know him better than he does.

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It’s interesting that supernatural flying horses get more respect here than dark matter ...
At least there's a good idea of what a flying horse might look like. Dark matter? You might as well be searching for Vulcan.
... cosmic inflation ...
Physics defying ad hoc rescue device of a theory with more fudge factors than theory vs. Horse, with wings? Yeaaaaa, the horse wins.
... and of course the multiverse.
You do realize that fairies SHOULD exist if there's an iota of truth in the multiverse hunch, right?Vy
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Dawkins said he only wanted to talk about Hawking Prize & STARMUS, not religion, but he still engaged this reporter for several minutes. He could have cut it off at the beginning.aarceng
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T though the British Muslim reporter did a great job. very sharp despite having the audience laugh at his presumptions. Dawkins ideas are no more or less valuable then anyone else. only if he uses science to say this or that is not trur about God or the bible. Its very unsies for anyone, tailless primates, to say they know anything conclusive about such complicated mattters as the universe and biology. If known then fix. PLEASE. Miracles are not miracles to GOD. The bible never uses the word miracle. To God is natural. So no impressive thing is impressive. in fact horses to heaven is not much compared to the immune system. If God existed creating the world in six days would be not a big deal. Creating the world by chance is impossible in billlions of years. P.S. Was it really bring scientists,astronauts, and creative musicians together?? What about the prophets on horsesto the sky, and uncreative musicians!Robert Byers
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If no one asserts the flying horse to be this-worldly science, only a naturalist atheist need have been in the contention at all. That is a key weakness of their position, one that Steve Fuller perhaps senses.
Well, I take it that the journalist believes that flying horses actually do or did exist, regardless of whether this is a scientific matter or not. You don't have to be a naturalist atheist to have doubts about this, or at least wonder where he's getting this information. Speaking as a naturalist atheist, I would love to see compelling evidence of a supernatural occurrence. They just never seem to happen when I'm around.daveS
December 29, 2015
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daveS at 10: You know perfectly well what the answer must be: Dark matter, cosmic inflation, and of course the multiverse all demand respect, attention, and funding as science (with vastly differing levels of plausible evidence). If no one asserts the flying horse to be this-worldly science, only a naturalist atheist need have been in the contention at all. That is a key weakness of their position, one that Steve Fuller perhaps senses.News
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It's interesting that supernatural flying horses get more respect here than dark matter, cosmic inflation, and of course the multiverse.daveS
December 29, 2015
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The journalist has hit on Dawkins's handicap: He is a naturalist atheist and must therefore insist that the flying horse cannot exist in principle. Many people could exit the contention by saying that they are not qualified by definition to judge the claims of another religion regarding a supernatural entity, which one takes the flying horse to be.News
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I can see walking out on a flying carpet, but walking out on a flying horse sounds like some sort of circus act.Mung
December 29, 2015
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News,
daveS at 5, If one is headfirst in a mudhole, one did something wrong. Let’s make a quick list of all the people this has not happened to.
Most people wouldn't get into a dispute with a journalist, because journalists aren't interested in interviewing most people. If one does get into a dispute with a journalist, that doesn't mean they did anything wrong. And this hardly seems to qualify as a "mudhole." It's fascinating how everything is exaggerated when Dawkins is somehow involved.goodusername
December 29, 2015
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News, Based on the information in this post, I don't agree that he's in a "mudhole". If his explanation of the incident is accurate, then he behaved appropriately, IMO, and it's the journalist and Glenn Greenwald that are in the wrong.daveS
December 29, 2015
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daveS at 5, If one is headfirst in a mudhole, one did something wrong. Let's make a quick list of all the people this has not happened to.News
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Did Dawkins do something wrong? If so, I don't see it.daveS
December 29, 2015
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How does Dawkins manage to upend himself into these mudholes?News
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Actually Mung as a Christian I believe Christ will return using an awesome spaceship just like the one that fetched Elijah. Burning flying horses! Don't forget the burning part. Or it really is a burning flying horse like my Felsteed in WoW.Andre
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And to think Christians believe Jesus will return on a flying horse.Mung
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