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“Evolution” “experimenting” with different types of early humans?

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1.9 mya pelvis and femur from Kenya/MU News Bureau

That’s the claim in this ScienceDaily piece:

Recently released research on human evolution has revealed that species of early human ancestors had significant differences in facial features. Now, a University of Missouri researcher and her international team of colleagues have found that these early human species also differed throughout other parts of their skeletons and had distinct body forms. The research team found 1.9 million-year-old pelvis and femur fossils of an early human ancestor in Kenya, revealing greater diversity in the human family tree than scientists previously thought.

“What these new fossils are telling us is that the early species of our genus, Homo, were more distinctive than we thought. They differed not only in their faces and jaws, but in the rest of their bodies too,” said Carol Ward, a professor of pathology and anatomical sciences in the MU School of Medicine. “The old depiction of linear evolution from ape to human with single steps in between is proving to be inaccurate. We are finding that evolution seemed to be experimenting with different human physical traits in different species before ending up with Homo sapiens.”

Do we actually know that these individuals are “different species?”

If all the passengers on an overcrowded subway car in multicultural Toronto, Canada, were fossilized and dug up 50k years from now, with no accompanying information, it would be interesting to know how many “different species” would be identified, using current methods?

“Evolution” is certainly a busy lady, it seems.

Here is a synopsis of the problems we face in understanding human evolution.

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Joe, quit being retarded.CHartsil
March 11, 2015
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CHartsil- quit being an ignorant cowardJoe
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Joe, quit being retardedCHartsil
March 11, 2015
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When apes can classify organisms then they can place themselves with us if they choose. Until then they are separate for obvious reasons- duh.Joe
March 11, 2015
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"No one is arguing that Humans should be split apart from mammals or vertebrates. But some Scientists ARE arguing that humans should be split apart from Great Ape based on “math skills” among other things." "Math skills" is not a taxonomic characteristic. Also, by that logic we have even better math skills over the rest of animalia as compared to the other apes. So then, yes, we should be split from mammals and animals.CHartsil
March 11, 2015
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CH. No one is arguing that Humans should be split apart from mammals or vertebrates. But some Scientists ARE arguing that humans should be split apart from Great Ape based on "math skills" among other things.ppolish
March 11, 2015
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Wd400, “Great Ape” was invented in the 60’s. Yes, it’s been around a long time. But only recently has “humans are more closely related to chimps than other apes” become increasingly irrelevant. Times are a changing.ppolish
March 11, 2015
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If “(great) ape” means something, it necessarily includes humans since humans are more closely related to chimps than other apes.
Related, how?
Realistically, nothing is going to change that fact, so this classification isn’t changing.
That is far from a fact and the premise can't even be tested.Joe
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"Yes, CH, asking a weasel or goldfish a math question is stupid talk." So then you understand that all humans are animals but not all animals are humans. "But my point was that humans need to be split apart from Great Ape, not lumped with them." By what reasoning? Should they also be split from mammals?CHartsil
March 11, 2015
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Classifications are ever changing, and will change again.
Nah. If "(great) ape" means something, it necessarily includes humans since humans are more closely related to chimps than other apes. Realistically, nothing is going to change that fact, so this classification isn't changing. Splitting or lumping has nothing to do with it.wd400
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ppolish: But my point was that humans need to be split apart from Great Ape, not lumped with them. They're split as hominins, but lumped as hominids.Zachriel
March 11, 2015
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Yes, CH, asking a weasel or goldfish a math question is stupid talk. But my point was that humans need to be split apart from Great Ape, not lumped with them. From the article in the OP; "The old depiction of linear evolution from ape to human with single steps in between is proving to be inaccurate. We are finding that evolution seemed to be experimenting with different human physical traits in different species before ending up with Homo sapiens." Classifications are ever changing, and will change again. Don't be locked into your thinking, CH. Science is good. Live and learn.ppolish
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"You don’t like the Google definition of ape, so you change subject and cherry pick a definition of primate? Nice CH. Nice." Part of the definition of ape you pasted was 'primate' and the same dictionary you got that definition from defines humans as primates. "“Verify you are HUMAN by answering the following question” makes sense “Verify you are Great Ape by answering the following question” is stupid talk." >>> “Verify you are HUMAN by answering the following question” makes sense “Verify you are Mammal by answering the following question” is stupid talk. “Verify you are Animal by answering the following question” is stupid talk. “Verify you are Vertebrate by answering the following question” is stupid talk.CHartsil
March 11, 2015
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You don't like the Google definition of ape, so you change subject and cherry pick a definition of primate? Nice CH. Nice. And again, only recently has human been grouped as "Great Ape". Atheist all agree. Many have modern chimp as avatars on Twitter lol. But the grouping has been bad for Science. Both the OP and this link point to the problem; http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/02/13/the-great-ape-taxonomy-debate/ "Verify you are HUMAN by answering the following question" makes sense "Verify you are Great Ape by answering the following question" is stupid talk.ppolish
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Yep http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/primate any member of the group of animals that includes human beings, apes, and monkeys I didn't think anyone seriously argued that humans weren't apes anymore. We have to ingest nutrients through a digestive tract, we're animals. We have a spine, we're vertebrates. We have body wide hair follicles, we're mammals. We're all that without a tail, highly developed cerebrum, binocular vision and specialized forelimb grasping, we're apes.CHartsil
March 11, 2015
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CH, when I google "Ape Definition" I get: 1) a large primate that lacks a tail including the gorilla, chimpanzee, orangutans and gibbons. 2) Imitate the behavior or manner of someone or something, especially in an absurd or unthinking way. Do you get that definition also when you google, or is Google in tune with me?ppolish
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ppolish, define ape.CHartsil
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It also shows how in the past it was trivial jaws and teeth upon which great conclusions were made about human evolution. Its all on fossils one doesn't get a good sample of in any way. For a YEC creationist its welcome to find a full skeleton especially with females. inly human females have important pain at childbirth and female animals do not. this , because of Gods decision after the problem. Our women's anatomy shows why they have birthing pain. SO just examining hominid females would establish iof they were human or just a variety of ape.Robert Byers
March 10, 2015
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Google "Evolution". Look at the "Images" returned. The ubiquitous Modern Chimp morphing into a Modern Human. Who believes this crud? Many people sadly. It's ubiquitous after all. The damage done by Dawkins and his ilk is pretty incredible. Scientific damage by Atheist Preacher slash "Science Communicator".ppolish
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Back when I was born, Humans were not lumped into the Great Apes. We were proud, we were strong. We were "Homin's" not "Pogon's". But soon after came Diamond with his "Third Chimpanzee" theory and Dawkins with his "5th Ape" crapola - and Humans began to be born classified as "Great Apes". Bedtime for Bonzo sigh. Jane Goodall gag. Humans need to be split apart once more. Makes for better Science. As the article in the OP shows, Human's have an incredible ancestry that is split apart from apes & monkeys. I'm proud to have been born a human. But kids today are not so lucky. They are born as ape. So split not lump. For the kids sake. Think of the children.ppolish
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