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Fine-tuning: Help! We are drowning in evidence!

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From Denyse O’Leary at Evolution News & Views:

Fine-tuning of the universe is so unpleasant a subject for materialists that it cannot really become a controversy. The desired evidence favors a random universe, accidentally spilled. Differing points of view on the findings would, of course, be funded by the government. But the randomness would be agreed upon up front.

On the other hand, if evidence matters, our universe appears fine-tuned.

In the end it is not really an issue about the evidence. Help! we are drowning in evidence! The universe’s expansion speed is said to be just right for life, the Higgs boson seems to be fine-tuned, and Earth has a “unique” iron signature, just as a few examples.

This from Natalie Wolchover at Quanta Magazine: “As things stand, the known elementary particles, codified in a 40-year-old set of equations called the ‘Standard Model,’ lack a sensible pattern and seem astonishingly fine-tuned for life.” Why does being fine-tuned for life “lack a sensible pattern”? What if that IS the pattern?The alternative sounds like saying that the letters STOP on a sign do not form a sensible pattern.

Cocktail napkin objections are always on offer, to be sure.More.

See also: How naturalism rots science from the head down

and

The Big Bang: Put simply,the facts are wrong.

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@kmidpuddle that's the point of finetuning, if the parameters were any different the universe would cease to exist...EricMH
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Someone, drive kmidpuddle home.
Ouch. What happened to the idea of Runnymede Redmen having each other's back? :)kmidpuddle
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Someone, drive kmidpuddle home.News
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I guess that the lack of a sense of humour is an ID requirement. All of these "finely tuned" physical constants are nothing more than things that we have measured that don't appear to vary. Arguing that if any one of them had different values the universe as we know it would not exist, assumes that any of these constants could have a different value. It is like saying that red is finely tuned to 650 nm. If the wavelength were any different, it wouldn't be red. And, being Canadian, I am also non-violent.kmidpuddle
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Barry Arrington at 4: Will K-puddle play poker with you? Like most Canadians, I am non-violent by disposition and training - so would settle for that test instead. But is it fair to take K-puddle's money instead of just driving him home? ;News
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News, K-puddle's response says that, for him at least, the evidence does not matter. If we stood K-puddle up against a wall in front of a firing squad of 500 expert marksmen standing 20 feet away and none of them hit him, I wonder if he would say "the fact that I am here to contemplate my existence means they all missed."Barry Arrington
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K @ 1: You actually wasted your time coming here and typing that garbage? Time is precious, especially for you a/mats who believe (oh, what a faith you have) that this is the only time you get. Learn something...fool (sorry, KF)Truth Will Set You Free
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UD is finely tuned to attract Evo-Trolls. Andrewasauber
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The fine tuning argument reminds me of Douglas Adams farce about the depression in the ground being finely tuned for the puddle that fills it.kmidpuddle
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